Boys in Blue

[Buellluva]

I decided one fine day a few months ago to do a ride to Whangarei. Being married with kids not to mention broke, I rode up the heavily policed Kaipara Coast H'way, and was very concious of watching my speed both there and back. On the way back, after coming through the Kaukapakapa Village I started to relax being close to home.
It was about then I noticed a bronze coloured sedan following me pretty closely, looking at my speedo I was doing 110k. As the driver appeared to be getting closer and closer to me, I several times waved him to go past, but all he kept doing was getting closer, until in the end I couldn't even see his number plate. I came to a straight and blitzed past several cars to get away from him, and this clown did the same then crept up right on my ass again.
In the end I ignored him, and as i came into Helensville, approx 10 km from where this started, lights came on and I realised this dick was a cop.
I lost the plot and abused the shit out of him, he presented me with a ticket for 140 in a 100, refused to show me the radar, (i still think I never got that fast), and when I hit him up re tailgating he had a big smile and said "thats no excuse for speeding".
I've been riding for 30 years, and this pimple head would have been lucky to be in his early twenties. Before you all start going on about cop bashing, I was an ambo for 7 years and know some good cops but theis guy was an asshole. I came close to being arrested that day, as I was fired up, and thought this was BS. If that was any of us you'd be up on a dangerous driving charge.
I went the next day to the local cop shop and complained to a bored sergeant, who obviously didn't believe me, wrote to police complaints authority and was told bad luck pay up.
I thought screw them I'll go to court, and whatever happens happens.
2 days before I was due in court they rang me to say the case was withdrawn, as the police car (a Bronze Hyundai Sonata), wasn't certified at the time of the ticket, (I reckon this could be a tui ad YEAH RIGHT).
If the cop had snuck up behind me and put his lights on, I would have copped it on the chin, but this bloke was trying to get me to run so he could get his jollies and have a big chase, so beware out there of unmarked cars and this kind of cop on the road.
Also stand up for your rights, every now and again you might get a win.

[Juzz976]

Glad to see you got off, I've had a very similar encounter with an officer who was speeding and tailgating me for no reason then pulled me up for apparent failure to stop at a stop sign.

I've always been co-operative with police and respect them for the job they have to do. However recently I have had 2 experiences with 'bad cops' and now would say I'd look at situations differently.

I think they're not doing themselves any favours by turning honest hardworking responsible citizens against them.

Would I stop to help out a cop now, probably not as I wouldn't know if they have created the situation or not. For all anyone knows they could just be a bully getting what they deserve, shame really.

[Swoop]

That's Hazard County for you...

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=102482

Also, watch this (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=111081).

[crazyhorse]

Good on you for for sticking to your guns, however, it sure is a shame that it ever needed to get to that point in the first place.

Honest people wouldn't expect a cop to tail-gate in order to get their quota - however, it sure does open the eyes - thanks for the heads up on this one :niceone:

[NighthawkNZ]

Its an old dangerous entrapment trick that they have used for years... tailgate you hope that you speed away so they can issue a ticket. Then its their word against yours... Its usually only the arogant ones that do this.

Had a tailgater a while back that was possibly a cop on Dunedin's Southern Motorway. The other person I was riding with said he got a blip on his radar detector from him. I was lucky that I could simply manouver in to the other lane where he couldn't follow (i was pratically boxed in. Bad...) then just cruised on.

I have been thinking mounting some forward and rear mounted pen cameras actually.

[scumdog]

Where do these guys come from??

NEVER hear of that down in Riviera of the South, hell there's enough dozey buggers on the roads that cops don't need to pull tricks like that down here to get a ticket or two..

[Jantar]

Sorry SD, but I have seen the Milton cop pulling just this trick. Well I assume it was the Milton cop as it happened between Balclutha and Milton close to Milton. I have never seen a cop follow so closely before, if the motorist (not motorcyclist) had even slowed down suddenly he would have had an HP car up his arse.

[caseye]

They are out there SD, and it is taking it's toll on the majority of the general public, those few are definitely making a bad rep for the rest and it's spreading fast.
Glad to hear theres none of that in your balliwick.

[hayd3n]

Where do these guys come from??

NEVER hear of that down in Riviera of the South, hell there's enough dozey buggers on the roads that cops don't need to pull tricks like that down here to get a ticket or two..

you mean to get quota aye?

[Chrislost]

I decided one fine day a few months ago to do a ride to Whangarei. Being married with kids not to mention broke, I rode up the heavily policed Kaipara Coast H'way, and was very concious of watching my speed both there and back. On the way back, after coming through the Kaukapakapa Village I started to relax being close to home.
It was about then I noticed a bronze coloured sedan following me pretty closely, looking at my speedo I was doing 110k. As the driver appeared to be getting closer and closer to me, I several times waved him to go past, but all he kept doing was getting closer, until in the end I couldn't even see his number plate. I came to a straight and blitzed past several cars to get away from him, and this clown did the same then crept up right on my ass again.
In the end I ignored him, and as i came into Helensville, approx 10 km from where this started, lights came on and I realised this dick was a cop.
I lost the plot and abused the shit out of him, he presented me with a ticket for 140 in a 100, refused to show me the radar, (i still think I never got that fast), and when I hit him up re tailgating he had a big smile and said "thats no excuse for speeding".
I've been riding for 30 years, and this pimple head would have been lucky to be in his early twenties. Before you all start going on about cop bashing, I was an ambo for 7 years and know some good cops but theis guy was an asshole. I came close to being arrested that day, as I was fired up, and thought this was BS. If that was any of us you'd be up on a dangerous driving charge.
I went the next day to the local cop shop and complained to a bored sergeant, who obviously didn't believe me, wrote to police complaints authority and was told bad luck pay up.
I thought screw them I'll go to court, and whatever happens happens.
2 days before I was due in court they rang me to say the case was withdrawn, as the police car (a Bronze Hyundai Sonata), wasn't certified at the time of the ticket, (I reckon this could be a tui ad YEAH RIGHT).
If the cop had snuck up behind me and put his lights on, I would have copped it on the chin, but this bloke was trying to get me to run so he could get his jollies and have a big chase, so beware out there of unmarked cars and this kind of cop on the road.
Also stand up for your rights, every now and again you might get a win.

Ginger copper did that exact same shit to me.
Although i know that anyone that tailgates you like that is a cop so all i did was slow down to 70 and wait for him to pull me over / pass me

[Toaster]

Where do these guys come from??

NEVER hear of that down in Riviera of the South, hell there's enough dozey buggers on the roads that cops don't need to pull tricks like that down here to get a ticket or two..

Well known tactic in these parts. Wind em up then lock em up.

All I can say is ...... IPCA.

[Pixie]

Happened to me.I rang the sergeant in Wellsford.Two days later he called me back to tell me he gave the new cop there arseholes for following too close.

[BASS-TREBLE]

If I knew it was a cop right up my arse, I would be so so so so tempted to slam on the brakes to avoid a 'pothole', have him smash my rear end up and let him get in shit for tailgating, and pay for the bike. What could they hold against me? I heard once that in a bumper to bumper crash, the last one in the que is always the cause of the accident.

[Maha]

Same sort of thing happen to a few weeks back (different area though) going about my day, enjoying the road, then I noticed a vehicle a bit to close for my liking, I did think at the time mmmmm mufti? wasn't your standard issue cop car. Anyway, then I heard that nosie that makes every biker cringe, no not a siren, it was Greensleeves. I thought things were a bit flakey earlier but thats how we roll in the Norf.

[Usarka]

Fucking dangerous bastards.

[Swoop]

All I can say is ...... IPCA.
An absolute waste of ink and a stamp.

[Pedrostt500]

Why dont some of you guys go Bear Hunting, the trick is mount a camera in a top box facing backwards, if you are a techey sort of person mount a remote switch on your handel bars, trawl at 105 to 110 km/h and let them try the tail gate trick, accept the ticket when you get one, with out mentioning the camera, check the footage when you get home, as you need a clear frame with the cars REG No, you also need their rank name and No, should be on the ticket, send a copy off to their Superriors, and a note saying next copy on the way to TV.
And see how they run.
If a few of you can get the same Moron doing the same thing over a couple of weeks then you can end their career as a copper.

[huff3r]

Haha, the cops have tried this before with boyracers at the lights, trying to get them to drag off. Then it was pointed out to them that "Entrapment" is illegal in NZ :D

[EgliHonda]

Actually this happened to me about 20 yrs ago when I was a pup, some doofus followed me for ages really close (through town) and cos I had one eye on him in the mirror I wavered slightly (was in a car). That was all he was waiting for, lights went on and I was checked out. No probs, just carried on home but I lost a lot of respect because of the tactics...

[SMOKEU]

bronze coloured sedan

Next time look out for the lights on the dashboard.

[Little Miss Trouble]

a Bronze Hyundai Sonata

You're not the first to be caught out by that car..:pinch:

[scumdog]

Sorry SD, but I have seen the Milton cop pulling just this trick. Well I assume it was the Milton cop as it happened between Balclutha and Milton close to Milton. I have never seen a cop follow so closely before, if the motorist (not motorcyclist) had even slowed down suddenly he would have had an HP car up his arse.

We don't have HP here, must have been somebody passing through from up your way maybe?.

[scumdog]

Haha, the cops have tried this before with boyracers at the lights, trying to get them to drag off. Then it was pointed out to them that "Entrapment" is illegal in NZ :D

Really?
WHO pointed that out?

Cos it'ss news to me.


Seeing as we don't have any offence known as 'entrapment' in New Zealand:oi-grr:

[scumdog]

Why dont some of you guys go Bear Hunting, the trick is mount a camera in a top box facing backwards, if you are a techey sort of person mount a remote switch on your handel bars, trawl at 105 to 110 km/h and let them try the tail gate trick, accept the ticket when you get one, with out mentioning the camera, check the footage when you get home, as you need a clear frame with the cars REG No, you also need their rank name and No, should be on the ticket, send a copy off to their Superriors, and a note saying next copy on the way to TV.
And see how they run.
If a few of you can get the same Moron doing the same thing over a couple of weeks then you can end their career as a copper.

How many times has it worked for you?

How many careers did you end?

[Jantar]

We don't have HP here, must have been somebody passing through from up your way maybe?.
That's quite possible. It is the sort of thing they'd do.

[The Stranger]

I decided one fine day a few months ago to do a ride to Whangarei. Being married with kids not to mention broke, I rode up the heavily policed Kaipara Coast H'way, and was very concious of watching my speed both there and back. On the way back, after coming through the Kaukapakapa Village I started to relax being close to home.
It was about then I noticed a bronze coloured sedan following me pretty closely, looking at my speedo I was doing 110k. As the driver appeared to be getting closer and closer to me, I several times waved him to go past, but all he kept doing was getting closer, until in the end I couldn't even see his number plate. I came to a straight and blitzed past several cars to get away from him, and this clown did the same then crept up right on my ass again.
In the end I ignored him, and as i came into Helensville, approx 10 km from where this started, lights came on and I realised this dick was a cop.
I lost the plot and abused the shit out of him, he presented me with a ticket for 140 in a 100, refused to show me the radar, (i still think I never got that fast), and when I hit him up re tailgating he had a big smile and said "thats no excuse for speeding".
I've been riding for 30 years, and this pimple head would have been lucky to be in his early twenties. Before you all start going on about cop bashing, I was an ambo for 7 years and know some good cops but theis guy was an asshole. I came close to being arrested that day, as I was fired up, and thought this was BS. If that was any of us you'd be up on a dangerous driving charge.
I went the next day to the local cop shop and complained to a bored sergeant, who obviously didn't believe me, wrote to police complaints authority and was told bad luck pay up.
I thought screw them I'll go to court, and whatever happens happens.
2 days before I was due in court they rang me to say the case was withdrawn, as the police car (a Bronze Hyundai Sonata), wasn't certified at the time of the ticket, (I reckon this could be a tui ad YEAH RIGHT).
If the cop had snuck up behind me and put his lights on, I would have copped it on the chin, but this bloke was trying to get me to run so he could get his jollies and have a big chase, so beware out there of unmarked cars and this kind of cop on the road.
Also stand up for your rights, every now and again you might get a win.

Standard MO round hazard county (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=74814). Still hard on the noobs.

[Buellluva]

[QUOTE=Swoop;1129532853]That's Hazard County for you...

Thanks for all the guys warning re Hazard County. Swoop went through some of the posts from you, westie etc, and bugger me sideways the cop was ACD868. Sounds like this prick has been playing these games up around our way for a couple of years at least.
People if you get a ticket from this dick, I'd take it to court, with this guys history, I'd reckon you'd have a good chance of getting of, as he's a lying corrupt piece of shit, surely they must have had others like me who have complained, re his intimidating tactics to get tickets.
Check old tickets, ACD868, and lets see how many other dodgy tickets he has written.

[Cr1MiNaL]

[QUOTE=Swoop;1129532853]That's Hazard County for you...

Thanks for all the guys warning re Hazard County. Swoop went through some of the posts from you, westie etc, and bugger me sideways the cop was ACD868. Sounds like this prick has been playing these games up around our way for a couple of years at least.
People if you get a ticket from this dick, I'd take it to court, with this guys history, I'd reckon you'd have a good chance of getting of, as he's a lying corrupt piece of shit, surely they must have had others like me who have complained, re his intimidating tactics to get tickets.
Check old tickets, ACD868, and lets see how many other dodgy tickets he has written.

Mate I could name a few, those prick pigs got it in for us bikers... thanks Toot Toot post edited... I do not need to be reamed up teh arse by any more cops. Thanks very much.

[nadroj]

Are you sure it's not ADHD868?

http://www.help4adhd.org/en/treatment/guides/WWK9

[Toot Toot]

WARNING. Be very very careful what you write about the above officer now that you have identified him in the thread.
There are more than one member from here who has had some serious charges levelled at them arising from this very website and comments made about him.

[peasea]

Where do these guys come from??

NEVER hear of that down in Riviera of the South, hell there's enough dozey buggers on the roads that cops don't need to pull tricks like that down here to get a ticket or two..

Well, maybe that's the difference between cops and pigs. (Or north and south?) So much of both sides is down to attitude.

Mind you, tell that to big-city pig when he's out to prove something, they're fuckwits generally speaking whereas a local (country) bobby simply tries to settle things with reason rather than a baton/cash register/cell key etc.

Oh, and do me a favour.............turn your radar/laser off on Dec 29/30, there's a good boy.

[ital916]

I have a huge respect for what they do and how they put themselves on the line for us, but a few incidents I have witnessed lately, is starting to dampen that. Was heading to do the shopping last night in the cage and I am waiting to turn right out of a side street into abbots way in remuera. I see a bike coming from my right, indicating to turn into the street Im coming out of. Isnt speeding, isnt hooning, isnt loud or obnoxious and is wearing all the gear. I quietly admire the bike and watch as he turns into the street. He/she is being followed by a patrol car that literally stops in front of the road I am coming out of and sits there for 30seconds blocking traffic whilst watching the motorcyclist head up my road. The officer, is just watching the rider intently, as if waiting for him to do something stupid. He then slowly crawls off. I then proceed to pull out and have to jam the brakes on as a car with one broken headlight (note this was at 8:45pm ish) and one very dim one, hoons past at like 80. It also has two broken tailights. How cop car didnt see that I dont know. :nono:

[dipshit]

A mate of mine had a cop tailgate him at night with the headlights on high once.

That and other things like this... www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129363149&postcount=1.. has made me lose any respect for their authority on the roads.

If they want to play silly games with the public then that's what they'll get. Fuck them to hell.

[caseye]

A mate of mine had a cop tailgate him at night with the headlights on high once.

That and other things like this... www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129363149&postcount=1.. has made me lose any respect for their authority on the roads.

If they want to play silly games with the public then that's what they'll get. Fuck them to hell.

Just so theres no way I could have misquoted you, I've boldened and Italicised the relevant words.
With these words I 100% agree.
Unfortunately there isa growing trend towards Police Officers attempting to ensnare drivers/riders, in ways which are morally, ethically and principally WRONG.
Having said all that, in the dfence of those officers who go out and do their job to the best of their ability day in and day out I still salute them.
:calm:

[Patrick]

Happened to me.I rang the sergeant in Wellsford.Two days later he called me back to tell me he gave the new cop there arseholes for following too close.

The Sergeant could have increased his quota that day. Following too closely $150 fine.....

[Fatjim]

Just another reason not to live in dorkland.

[red mermaid]

Yeah, cause of all the dorks, as evident so often in this thread.

[Hiflyer]

Yeah, cause of all the dorks, as evident so often in this thread.

Police or riders!? :angry2: ;)

[ManDownUnder]

Where do these guys come from??

NEVER hear of that down in Riviera of the South, hell there's enough dozey buggers on the roads that cops don't need to pull tricks like that down here to get a ticket or two..

Between the ol' "Radar gun at the bottom of the hill trick" and the "Flailin' Willy Burglar chase" I doubt you'd have time anyway woud ya mate?

[red mermaid]

I was clearly referring to Dorks and that is self evident from the posts on here who I mean.

[Hiflyer]

yup, was just playing along...

[crazyhorse]

Just another reason not to live in dorkland.

What he said :done: