BRONZ returns to the Capital, Dec 7th

[StoneY]

What
Meeting at the Parrot n Jigger Bistro
When
Monday Dec 7th @7pm
Why
To get BRONZ Wellington off the ground

This meeting will be purely to get some indication of the membership, structure and purpose that BRONZ Wellington will be built upon

Basically we will be following in the footsteps of Auckland, and as far as me and the other two who have put a hand up, will borrow upon the Auckland charter until fully established

Items on the agenda will include:
Incorporated Society issues
Rules
Web support
Treasury
Membership
and ultimately PURPOSE!

This will be a short meeting of one hour max to cover the above points, future BIG plans will wait untill we have set the organization infrastructure up


Feel free to dine at the Parrot, they have been very supportive, and have offered BRONZ Wgtn the permanent free use of thier conference room on Monday's for ongoing meetings, the least we can do is eat something

[Cloggy]

Good to see.
And good to see the P & J supporting the Wellington motorcycle scene.
So yep, I'll be there and will ensure the P & J will get some business out of me.

[325rocket]

count me in, see you there

[riffer]

Yeah, I'll be there too. :niceone:

[klingon]

Well I won't be there! :nono:













But I will be cheering you on on behalf of Auckland BRONZ! :clap:

[Bald Eagle]

Well as required by my newly acquired habit of volunteering for stuff I'll be there and the P&J food will be sampled as well.

[Karl08]

Count myself and the mighty GN in.

[Quasi]

I'm in

10 char

[Ms Piggy]

:clap:we shall be in attendance!

[Ms Piggy]

Why
To get BRONZ Wellington off the ground
Is it on the calendar so I can set myself a reminder? I is a fergetful lady sometimes.

[chanceyy]

am on late shifts that week so will not make it but I am sure I will find out relevant info :scratch:

[klingon]

StoneY & co, remember to have some contact sheets handy. Even if people don't want to join immediately, they might want to go on the list to receive email newsletters. Hanne has been running our contact system in Auckland so she will be able to give you a template if you like.

Basically we just ask people to fill in their:

Name
Nickname on here (if relevant)
Mobile phone number (in case we need to text them about spontaneous actions)
Email address (where we can send newsletters)


We manage the resulting database very carefully because we want to assure everyone that their info won't fall into the wrong hands. We also give them the opportunity to opt out again at any stage.

The contact list has been very useful for keeping people informed about local happenings, and we encourage people to forward our newsletters to other people as well.

[hmmmnz]

just curious, but what is this bronz lark??
ive been out of the country and out of touch :D

[StoneY]

Google: Bikers Rights Organization of New Zealand

Oh...no need now
:niceone:

[klingon]

www.bronz.org.nz

[pritch]

Good luck guys :2thumbsup

[Vern]

Hey StoneY I am interested in joining, but being up in Napier i would not beable to do to many meetings. I was at the Wellinton protest and will attend any protests rallies that I can afford to go to. I will ask for your friendship and that will give you my private details. Good luck and thanks for taking on the job. Vern

[glegge]

Hey, this is great to hear BRONZ will be coming to wellington. i'd love to help if i can.
On another note, i'm all for a political party. there are a lot of talented, level headed bikers out there - reasonable (hell we all just protested for NZ, not just for ourselves!) and from many walks of life. what qdos for a political party ay.?

[StoneY]

BRONZ Wgtn will accept memberships from anywhere in the country but of course if your not in Lower NI we are likely to point you at the local branch (thanks for clarifying Les) first

In regards to a political party, lets not overstate how well we get along when ACC come looking for our cash, this was the one issue that will garantee a united front...for 5 minutes anyway

Lets walk before we run

BRONZ was a lobbying body with teeth when I was a teenager just starting to ride on the roads 25 years ago
That will do for starters

[Ixion]

For general information, the operational BRONZ branches (we avoid the use of chapter, it has connotations) , are Auckland (with Hamilton as a sort of sub branch) , Wellington, Taranaki, Timaru, Otago.

Anyone wants to start a Hawkes Bay , Nelson, West Coast or Christchurch branch, we'd be delighted.

[bezajel]

Can't attend, but keen to join a Wellington branch!

[caseye]

Go the Welly blokes and blokesses.Don't stop, keep rolling while theres still plenty of momentum.Stoney for Pressie! Seconders????

[rustic101]

That night, dam work function(s) from now till the 23rd. I hate christmas time :cry: just want to go bush :dodge:

[BMWST?]

i dont see what our KB names has got to do with any bronz membership....but that my opinion.

[klingon]

i dont see what our KB names has got to do with any bronz membership....but that my opinion.

Was that in response to my suggestion about the contact sheets?

If so, I agree that KB and BRONZ have no direct relationship. But it can be useful for your own reference when discussing something on here to know that the person known as "XXX" here is the same person who you met at the pub last night and were introduced to as "Pete."

The contact sheets aren't actually a BRONZ membership form, they are just a way to stay in communication with interested parties. KB is another way to communicate with interested parties - and it's useful to be able to cross-reference them!

[zjet]

Will be there, not sure how much help I will be but Member 001 sounds great to me... hmmm maybe i sould wait til 007 :P

[denefoster]

I should be there as well, so anyone I owe a beer to, come along and collect :)

[Azi Dahaka]

at 7 on the 7th ill do my damnest to be there

[StoneY]

I should be there as well, so anyone I owe a beer to, come along and collect :)

Tui please!

:lol:

[BMWST?]

Tui please!

:lol:

yeah right:laugh:

[BMWST?]

Was that in response to my suggestion about the contact sheets?

If so, I agree that KB and BRONZ have no direct relationship. But it can be useful for your own reference when discussing something on here to know that the person known as "XXX" here is the same person who you met at the pub last night and were introduced to as "Pete."

The contact sheets aren't actually a BRONZ membership form, they are just a way to stay in communication with interested parties. KB is another way to communicate with interested parties - and it's useful to be able to cross-reference them!

more likely to be the other way round.....i either dont know a name or know only a kb name....no drama's

[StoneY]

Shameless bump.

See you all there in an hour

[klingon]

*sending good vibes to Welly* :sunny:

[Ms Piggy]

See you all sooooooon. :)

[nothingflash]

Bugger - I can't make it but am keen...

[caseye]

Whatever it is i don't care Stoney for Pressie fo Welly.Luck guys.

[Pedrostt500]

A very good meeting to kick off BRONZ Wellington.

[Ms Piggy]

:yes: A very good 1st meeting. Particularly having it opened by the Hon. Rick Barker!

[Hitcher]

Why is BRONZ chapterised? Wouldn't it be more efficient to have a national organisation with local branches, rather than having autonomous local chapters sharing a name only?

[riffer]

Why is BRONZ chapterised? Wouldn't it be more efficient to have a national organisation with local branches, rather than having autonomous local chapters sharing a name only?

Ah then you should have been there to ask that question then my good sir...

A good first meeting. I have no idea who most of you all are, but I guess that will change with time.

[BMWST?]

Why is BRONZ chapterised? Wouldn't it be more efficient to have a national organisation with local branches, rather than having autonomous local chapters sharing a name only?

no....who wants to be "dictated to" by a bunch of fellas from another city...
Its not like there are significant running costs....

[KrazyGixxerBoy]

Ah then you should have been there to ask that question then my good sir...

A good first meeting. I have no idea who most of you all are, but I guess that will change with time.

Yeah mate, was a good first meeting. I was the owner of the GSXR who was chatting to you outside about the Contis and there cornering ability. Was good to meet ya.

[Ixion]

Why is BRONZ chapterised? Wouldn't it be more efficient to have a national organisation with local branches, rather than having autonomous local chapters sharing a name only?

There is a BRONZ national. It hasn't met for years and years , because motorcycling went into such a downturn, even getting a single local branch was struggling. Finn Nielsen is the last surviving member of the National committee.

But we are now planning a National congress in January (dunno exactly when, ye).

National sets broad policy and coordinates the regions.

[Karl08]

Could not make it in the end- exciting phone call with board member.

Keen to hear about future developments

[StoneY]

Why is BRONZ chapterised? Wouldn't it be more efficient to have a national organisation with local branches, rather than having autonomous local chapters sharing a name only?

We use the term 'branch' now Hitcher

Les is in the process of organizing a national panel, so all good

[caseye]

All rise for Sir Stoney! well doen bro and may the Welly "Branch" prosper greatly!

[Hitcher]

no....who wants to be "dictated to" by a bunch of fellas from another city...
Its not like there are significant running costs....

You, and I suspect others, have missed the point entirely.

[Hitcher]

We use the term 'branch' now Hitcher

Les is in the process of organizing a national panel, so all good

Well done Les!

[BMWST?]

You, and I suspect others, have missed the point entirely.

i dont think i have missed the point.I have been in several clubs organisations where there is a national body in one city with satelites in other centres.A them and us metality prevails unless there is very good and open communication between said parties.

[Hitcher]

i dont think i have missed the point.I have been in several clubs organisations where there is a national body in one city with satelites in other centres.A them and us metality prevails unless there is very good and open communication between said parties.

It's not just about communications, it's about resourcing. In this day and age a bunch of well-intentioned folks banding together to get things done in their spare time when there's a lot of competition for that spare time is not going to achieve bugger all. Remind yourselves of all of the bitching on this site about apathy versus MNZ. Apathy appears to be winning.

To be an effective voice, an organisation needs to employ professional administrators and thinkers (policy analysts). Six salaries (for example) soon adds up, not to mention other operating costs. Work backwards in terms of what an annual operating budget of $500,000 means in terms of income from subscriptions and other sources of revenue. It's 10,000 people paying $50 a head each year.

High quality policy advice rarely comes from a couple of dozen folks sitting around in a pub six times a year.

I've yet to see an effective national lobbying organisation run by volunteers on a shoestring. A handful of enthusiastic local BRONZ chapters may prove me wrong. Time will tell.

[BMWST?]

It's not just about communications, it's about resourcing. In this day and age a bunch of well-intentioned folks banding together to get things done in their spare time when there's a lot of competition for that spare time is not going to achieve bugger all. Remind yourselves of all of the bitching on this site about apathy versus MNZ. Apathy appears to be winning.

To be an effective voice, an organisation needs to employ professional administrators and thinkers (policy analysts). Six salaries (for example) soon adds up, not to mention other operating costs. Work backwards in terms of what an annual operating budget of $500,000 means in terms of income from subscriptions and other sources of revenue. It's 10,000 people paying $50 a head each year.

High quality policy advice rarely comes from a couple of dozen folks sitting around in a pub six times a year.

I've yet to see an effective national lobbying organisation run by volunteers on a shoestring. A handful of enthusiastic local BRONZ chapters may prove me wrong. Time will tell.

all true....not gonna happen.

[Pedrostt500]

OK just wanted to give this Thread a bit of a Bump, Just confirming we are meeting again on Monday the 11th Jan, at the Parrot & Jigger @ 7pm, unless I got that all wrong would some one like to confirm.
Any New Members most Welcome to Join.

[Bald Eagle]

I thought we had decided Jan was too soon and would meet next in Feb ?

[Ms Piggy]

OK just wanted to give this Thread a bit of a Bump, Just confirming we are meeting again on Monday the 11th Jan, at the Parrot & Jigger @ 7pm, unless I got that all wrong would some one like to confirm.
Any New Members most Welcome to Join.

Yes I thought it was Feb as well.

[red mermaid]

There is a BRONZ national. It hasn't met for years and years , because motorcycling went into such a downturn, even getting a single local branch was struggling. Finn Nielsen is the last surviving member of the National committee.

But we are now planning a National congress in January (dunno exactly when, ye).

National sets broad policy and coordinates the regions.

I don't see much hope for this chapter or organisation if the attitudes and opinions you express so often are to become a part of its beliefs, policy, and aims.

[Pedrostt500]

Yes I thought it was Feb as well.

Can we have the Feb date confirmed, if it is febuary, though with a date of Feb 16 for a march on Parliment, I would think a Feb Meeting as our next as being, rather foolish.

[Ms Piggy]

Can we have the Feb date confirmed, if it is febuary, though with a date of Feb 16 for a march on Parliment, I would think a Feb Meeting as our next as being, rather foolish.

I have emailed the leaders - maybe you could contact StoneY directly too?

[klingon]

I don't see much hope for this chapter or organisation if the attitudes and opinions you express so often are to become a part of its beliefs, policy, and aims.

I have two pieces of good news for you!


Ixion is not the only member of BRONZ, therefore he does not set all the beliefs, policies and aims for BRONZ
Ixion is a human being as well as a BRONZ member (I know! It's hard to believe!) so he has personal opinions that he sometimes expresses on this forum, and (probably) when talking to friends and family. Not all his opinions are the official standpoint of BRONZ


I hope that helps to set your mind at ease. :yes: