Urgent help needed in Upper Hutt

[nico]

anyone in the hutt have a chain tool?? that could wip round and join my chain,
happy to shout ya a beer or too, i know i could go to bike shop and pay 80per hour to have it done but who learns any thing that way

neways if you can help pm me please
nico:2thumbsup

[Juzz976]

I use electricians pliers (Flat nose) works everytime 4 me.

[nico]

ok this might sound daft then, but i just cant work out how plyers will work?? this is a rivet type chain appears once put together the rivet pics need to be spread i could be wrong thu

[Juzz976]

oh ok, Ive always had the removable link type.

I read somewhere u can centre punch them but not sure what you'd use to block up behind to get the pin to spread enough. sounds dodgy to me anyways. Not even sure how you'd get the old one off even, angle grinder or dremel maybe?

can you not get removable link they're like $10 at the shop.

[kwaka_crasher]

Centre punch the middle of the end of the pin with a heavy block held firmly to the other side. Use a ball pein hammer to finish it.

[Drew]

Centre punch the middle of the end of the pin with a heavy block held firmly to the other side. Use a ball pein hammer to finish it.

What he said^

[nico]

What he said^

chers for the constructive info this now give me something to do either tonight or tmrow morning

exerlet picked my front sproket up dis arvo

[hayd3n]

i used a grinder to remove my old chain ground the rivet head off and centre punched the rivet out,
the new chain had a joiner, and take note on which way the joiner faces,
cover the bike up with a damp towel or similar to avoid damaging ur bike

[nico]

i used a grinder to remove my old chain ground the rivet head off and centre punched the rivet out,
the new chain had a joiner, and take note on which way the joiner faces,
cover the bike up with a damp towel or similar to avoid damaging ur bike

chers prety much what i did got all srorkets on now just gta clamp new chain together do it in morning after god dam godzilla did the sprokets nuts up my knuckles hurt lol
\\chers for all the awsme help

[nico]

hey team thaught i had it sused but duh nah cant seem to get it right, yeahp the dam chain got it all fitted sittn where i want it but do you think i can get the
fase plate over the pins nope ,

right can someone , somelegend pop roung and help me sort this thing asap
kinda screwed gota use for work tomrow :calm: not,

021 1319090 thanks in advance

[glegge]

hey team thaught i had it sused but duh nah cant seem to get it right, yeahp the dam chain got it all fitted sittn where i want it but do you think i can get the
fase plate over the pins nope ,

right can someone , somelegend pop roung and help me sort this thing asap
kinda screwed gota use for work tomrow :calm: not,

021 1319090 thanks in advance

so its a removable link? not a rivit link?
i presume it's an o-ring chain (x-ring - whatever...).
they can be tricky.
i have watched a mechanic (and done it myself once) use slip jaw plyers (polygrips) to compress the orings with the face plate, then slip on the clip (or start spreading the rivits with the rivit press in the case of a rivit link...

if your stuck still later, try me. gavin. 027 4418 337.
i presume the link is OK, correct one and assembles OK off the chain?

i hope thats some help.

[Ixion]

With a modern chain you'll either need the chain fitting tool thingy or VERY judicious use of vicegrips with the needle points.

[crazyhorse]

You canna speak good english huh?

[CookMySock]

It will go over ok. Put it into place, and then snap the corner of the vice grips on the middle bit of the plate, undo, tighten knob, snap on again, rinse and repeat. Take your time and dont panic. Work one side on a bit and then the other.

Steve

[nico]

so its a removable link? not a rivit link?
i presume it's an o-ring chain (x-ring - whatever...).
they can be tricky.
i have watched a mechanic (and done it myself once) use slip jaw plyers (polygrips) to compress the orings with the face plate, then slip on the clip (or start spreading the rivits with the rivit press in the case of a rivit link...

if your stuck still later, try me. gavin. 027 4418 337.
i presume the link is OK, correct one and assembles OK off the chain?

i hope thats some help.

thats the 1 have tryed a g clamp it's kinda on but im now thinking finding a rivet tool may have been a good idea??

sent you a txt

[Ronin]

I'm assuming this is what you were after?

http://www.spellchecker.net/spellcheck/

[nico]

this place still full of the pc police i see

at least they are out numbred by helpfull ppl

[hayd3n]

firefox does that for me i just gotta remember to check my typing before i hit
submit

[F5 Dave]

Yes, do a search, has been covered many times.

Rivet tool for soft link if that is what it is. These are much safer than the old clips -which are really only suitable for smaller bikes.

'Sort of on. . .' sounds like sort of ready to smash your cases or worse.

I'd trailer it to a shop unless you can find someone to bring tool around. Riveting it with a hammer will likely weaken the link badly.

But it is reasonable if you want help that you make a modicum of effort into clear communication yes?

[F5 Dave]

Ahh another thread on the same item.:pinch:



Centre punch the middle of the end of the pin with a heavy block held firmly to the other side. Use a ball pein hammer to finish it.

Don't do what he said.
Will work an amount of times out of ten. Will fracture later the other unspecified amount of times. Not worth the risk of personal & bike damage it it breaks. Use the tool.

[nico]

thanks for your help guys :calm:now

[kwaka_crasher]

Don't do what he said.
Will work an amount of times out of ten. Will fracture later the other unspecified amount of times. Not worth the risk of personal & bike damage it it breaks. Use the tool.
What a load of shit.

[Str8 Jacket]

What a load of shit.

Yeah Dave, what the f*ck would you know!! ;)

[F5 Dave]

Well a the distributor of a main brand had said the manufacturer was quite adamant that smearing them with a ball peen was a point of failure & that other manufacturers were of similar opinion. By all means go ahead on your own bike, but to tell others to do so is opening them up to risk.

A good rivet is a nice bit of mild steel that you can indeed smear nicely with a ball peen, but the harder the steel the more likely it is to fracture or crack. - And you know what? I've done it myself, but that was many moons ago & I thought about it & the risk involved. Not worth it.

'Course the internet is full of self appointed experts (myself included, I awarded a bottlecap of merit just before), so if your particular chain has instructions that sez use a hammer then I'd lean to accepting that.

[Mishy]

Well a the distributor of a main brand had said the manufacturer was quite adamant that smearing them with a ball peen was a point of failure & that other manufacturers were of similar opinion. By all means go ahead on your own bike, but to tell others to do so is opening them up to risk.

A good rivet is a nice bit of mild steel that you can indeed smear nicely with a ball peen, but the harder the steel the more likely it is to fracture or crack. - And you know what? I've done it myself, but that was many moons ago & I thought about it & the risk involved. Not worth it.

'Course the internet is full of self appointed experts (myself included, I awarded a bottlecap of merit just before), so if your particular chain has instructions that sez use a hammer then I'd lean to accepting that.

100% true - coming from the importer.

Rivet links can be a pain, but they are 100% worth it.
A clip link, apart from being prone to loosing the clip, is only ever 80% as strong as a rivet link.
Add to that the fact that most proper tools deck height the new link, and avoid pushing the pins through when peening, and you should see that using the correct tool is the only way.
pm me if you are still stuck - i have the correct tool.

[nico]

yes corect tool must be used after seeing how easy it was with it off to get my own next week, that for those who helpd what a difrence a nice new chain and sprokets feels droping a tooth in front weas a good move also ,,