97 GSX-R11 Yoshi Ltd Edition

[T.W.R]

I'm currently working on a 97 GSX-R11 Yoshi Ltd Edition (apparently confirmed genuine for the owner by Suzuki NZ) which had been brought in from the states

It'd been neglected with lack of maintenance etc, so I'm going right through it getting things sorted.

Just about to strip & rebuild the carbs etc.
got new cables to fit and a K&N waiting to be put into place as well. It's running a RS-3 pipe too.

I thought the 11s of this era ran 38mm or 40mm carbs and this appears to be running 36mm units (Mikuni #46EC K662) I measured the throats with verniers

Anyone know the settings for the air mix screws & float heights etc?

[White trash]

Not that it helps but my understanding of the model is quite different.

The "Yoshimura Special Edition" 1100s were actually a bunch of USA market bikes, bought by Suzuki NZ for a song, then a pipe fited to make em sound good and shiny Yoshimura stickers added to the fairings. This was all done to remove your attention from the fact they were horrible California market bikes (hence the teeny carbs) that ran like crap and nowhere near the spec of a New Zealand market bike.

[Cajun]

Not that it helps but my understanding of the model is quite different.

The "Yoshimura Special Edition" 1100s were actually a bunch of USA market bikes, bought by Suzuki NZ for a song, then a pipe fited to make em sound good and shiny Yoshimura stickers added to the fairings. This was all done to remove your attention from the fact they were horrible California market bikes (hence the teeny carbs) that ran like crap and nowhere near the spec of a New Zealand market bike.

i had a 96 gsxr1100wt a few years ago.

and yeah tho yoshi edition ones where ones with a extra sticker and some yoshi exhaust pipes on them, and being from cali it it has black canser on the side tail fairing, for emissions. smaller carbs etc.

See if you can find some bigger carbs, could be more hassel, plenty of guys state side got plenty of hp out of there bikes with the 36mm carbs

service manual can be found here -> http://www.carlsalter.com/download.asp?fileid=083117122117107105095071083088 04508204904904804808709503905705104505705609508310 1114118105099101095077097110117097108046112100102

also look and see if this has been done (Look at the leads coming out of your neutral-sensor. If you have one wire on the neutral-sensor, then you do not have a "wheelie wire". If you have two leads, then one controls the neutral-light, and the other controls the signal to tell the ECU to retard the ignition in 1st-gear. If you are painstaking about it, you can use a scribe or icepick kinda tool and remove one of the connectors from the plastic terminal-block that both wires go into - if the one you remove renders your neutral-light ineffective, then you got the wrong one and need to put it back and remove the other one.

[crazyhorse]

Sounds like you have a mission on your hands. Good luck :yes:

[T.W.R]

Not that it helps but my understanding of the model is quite different.

The "Yoshimura Special Edition" 1100s were actually a bunch of USA market bikes, bought by Suzuki NZ for a song, then a pipe fited to make em sound good and shiny Yoshimura stickers added to the fairings. This was all done to remove your attention from the fact they were horrible California market bikes (hence the teeny carbs) that ran like crap and nowhere near the spec of a New Zealand market bike.

When it arrived here (my place) we gave it a run up the road & yeah the performance wasn't anything flash, though it was fluffing & farting below 4k and would intermittantly drop a cylinder at idle.
haven't run it since but put a new set of plugs in removed the old air filter which was caked in crap (looked like it'd never been out of the bike :oi-grr:)

The carbs are a bit suss as as far as I'm aware California spec bikes all have the airmix screw housings capped.... these aren't capped and going by the oxidising in the housings have never been capped.

I did a quick search around the web & found a few places with verying specs on the carbs...... some saying 38s & some saying 40s. That's what threw me off after having a measure-up to find 36s.

Thought I'd throw the question out here anyhow

[T.W.R]

and yeah tho yoshi edition ones where ones with a extra sticker and some yoshi exhaust pipes on them, and being from cali it it has black canser on the side tail fairing, for emissions. smaller carbs etc.

No canister or plumbing associated with emissions units on the bike or engine


See if you can find some bigger carbs, could be more hassel, plenty of guys state side got plenty of hp out of there bikes with the 36mm carbs .

Got a set of kitted 36s off my ZXR & a set of kitted 38s but he isn't getting either of them :shifty:




also look and see if this has been done (Look at the leads coming out of your neutral-sensor. If you have one wire on the neutral-sensor, then you do not have a "wheelie wire". If you have two leads, then one controls the neutral-light, and the other controls the signal to tell the ECU to retard the ignition in 1st-gear. If you are painstaking about it, you can use a scribe or icepick kinda tool and remove one of the connectors from the plastic terminal-block that both wires go into - if the one you remove renders your neutral-light ineffective, then you got the wrong one and need to put it back and remove the other one.

it's got a 2pin plug (green/black wire & red/black wire) the red/black has been cut & sealed :niceone:

[T.W.R]

:done: All sorted and running like a swiss clock :yes:

Once a couple of small items are taken care of and some of the bodywork is spruced up it'll be a pretty good ride.

:shutup: should of held on to it for a couple more days & swapped the cams over into the GS :shifty:

[Cajun]

:done: All sorted and running like a swiss clock :yes:

Once a couple of small items are taken care of and some of the bodywork is spruced up it'll be a pretty good ride.

:shutup: should of held on to it for a couple more days & swapped the cams over into the GS :shifty:

yeah i liked my one was a good big touring bike, they are very rapid, but stable since they got a bit of weight on them, nice big tanks to.

[Pussy]

The "Yoshimura Ltd Edition" bikes were 49 state examples.
The WW models that SNZ brought in were California examples.
Both had 36mm carbs (which when set up properly, gave more low end and midrange power than 40mm ones)
I bought a brand new WW in 1999. I replaced the camshafts with full power model ones, got a dynojet kit fitted, and replaced the igniter box with a -40 one (full power model). Removed the canister and associated plumbing, too.
The bike went VERY well after the mods


Edit: The California bikes have air injection in to the exhaust ports and the carbon canister in the tail section that is plumbed to the fuel tank to catch vapor. The 49 state US bikes don't

[White trash]

i had a 96 gsxr1100wt a few years ago.

and yeah tho yoshi edition ones where ones with a extra sticker and some yoshi exhaust pipes on them, and being from cali it it has black canser on the side tail fairing, for emissions. smaller carbs etc.

See if you can find some bigger carbs, could be more hassel, plenty of guys state side got plenty of hp out of there bikes with the 36mm carbs

service manual can be found here -> http://www.carlsalter.com/download.asp?fileid=083117122117107105095071083088 04508204904904804808709503905705104505705609508310 1114118105099101095077097110117097108046112100102

also look and see if this has been done (Look at the leads coming out of your neutral-sensor. If you have one wire on the neutral-sensor, then you do not have a "wheelie wire". If you have two leads, then one controls the neutral-light, and the other controls the signal to tell the ECU to retard the ignition in 1st-gear. If you are painstaking about it, you can use a scribe or icepick kinda tool and remove one of the connectors from the plastic terminal-block that both wires go into - if the one you remove renders your neutral-light ineffective, then you got the wrong one and need to put it back and remove the other one.


The "Yoshimura Ltd Edition" bikes were 49 state examples.
The WW models that SNZ brought in were California examples.
Both had 36mm carbs (which when set up properly, gave more low end and midrange power than 40mm ones)
I bought a brand new WW in 1999. I replaced the camshafts with full power model ones, got a dynojet kit fitted, and replaced the igniter box with a -40 one (full power model). Removed the canister and associated plumbing, too.
The bike went VERY well after the mods


Edit: The California bikes have air injection in to the exhaust ports and the carbon canister in the tail section that is plumbed to the fuel tank to catch vapor. The 49 state US bikes don't

I propose a little get together between you two for a GSXR Knowledge Face-off. I thought I was the biggest GSXR geek before meeting you pair of know-it-alls :D

[Cajun]

I propose a little get together between you two for a GSXR Knowledge Face-off. I thought I was the biggest GSXR geek before meeting you pair of know-it-alls :D

well we both be catching up at trackday next monday at minefield, what do you know about gsxr anyway, all you knew how to do was crash them.

[Cajun]

The "Yoshimura Ltd Edition" bikes were 49 state examples.
The WW models that SNZ brought in were California examples.
Both had 36mm carbs (which when set up properly, gave more low end and midrange power than 40mm ones)
I bought a brand new WW in 1999. I replaced the camshafts with full power model ones, got a dynojet kit fitted, and replaced the igniter box with a -40 one (full power model). Removed the canister and associated plumbing, too.
The bike went VERY well after the mods


Edit: The California bikes have air injection in to the exhaust ports and the carbon canister in the tail section that is plumbed to the fuel tank to catch vapor. The 49 state US bikes don't

looking thru the gsxr1100w (be it a 93 service manual in pdf) over the weekends, i noticed it said 36mm carbs, nothing about 40's

i am know they 96 one i had had 40mm, but my old one was pretty fast, so maybe a previous owner had put 40's since i know mine had plenty of HP

[White trash]

well we both be catching up at trackday next monday at minefield, what do you know about gsxr anyway, all you knew how to do was crash them.
Alright Mr GSXR Nerd, here's one for ya.

"Who gave the K7 GSXR1000 it's very first race win on New Zealand soil?"

[Pussy]

I propose a little get together between you two for a GSXR Knowledge Face-off. I thought I was the biggest GSXR geek before meeting you pair of know-it-alls :D

Unlike me, I can't think of a witty reply.
Get fucked will have to suffice! :)

[Cajun]

Alright Mr GSXR Nerd, here's one for ya.

"Who gave the K7 GSXR1000 it's very first race win on New Zealand soil?"

Donno, i more technial side of things, but i am guessing that is you,

but i can always say its not a real race really unless its @ national level? heheh

[Pussy]

looking thru the gsxr1100w (be it a 93 service manual in pdf) over the weekends, i noticed it said 36mm carbs, nothing about 40's

i am know they 96 one i had had 40mm, but my old one was pretty fast, so maybe a previous owner had put 40's since i know mine had plenty of HP

The Aussie, Pommy and Euro spec ones had 40mm carbs
The US (and SOME Euro, depending on country) had 36mm carbs

[Sensei]

The best was the 93 WP GSXR 1100R the first watercooled which I owned standard 114KW approx 156hp , Would have to be one of the strongest bikes I have owned . I won the KBK Dyno shoot out here with it at 142hp at the rear & the following week won the 1/4 & flying at Tikorangi with a 10.2 flat 1/4 & 172mph flying which records still stands today :woohoo: Still miss the old girl :crybaby: