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v.ros`
27th April 2005, 08:34
Hi Guys
Im sitting for my full on Friday.
So i thought, why not ask you experienced folks out there for some tips on both passing that test AND improve my riding skills as i will then start riding a cbr 600 from a gz250.
maybe these tips can be used by new or unexprienced riders and who knows what we can learn from each other.
Regards
Oakie
27th April 2005, 08:59
I don't know what the process is but I guess it's a practical test you're doing?
I failed mine the first time round (27 years ago) because I went over a railway line too fast. Just remember those sorts of things (eg, the speed allowed passing a stopped bus). It's one thing to know the theory when asked questions but it's another to actually recognise the situations and do it on the road.
As far as improving riding skills ... it's just time spent on the road that does it unless you can actually find an experienced rider to take you under their wing.
Good luck
FEINT
27th April 2005, 09:29
I did my full about 3 weeks ago.
-Don't exceed the speed limit.
-I had to do a U-Turn. Practise that if you aren't good at it.
-Don't lose the instructor! (very easy to accelerate away from him / her)
-Drive like a nanny, ride on the right hand wheel track. Do what the rode code says.
hope that helps. :) let us know how you get along.
Eurodave
27th April 2005, 09:57
As well as previous post advice also make it obvious to the tester that you are using your mirrors & glancing over your shoulder B4 pulling out,changing lanes etc
v.ros`
27th April 2005, 09:59
I did my full about 3 weeks ago.
-Don't exceed the speed limit.
-I had to do a U-Turn. Practise that if you aren't good at it.
-Don't lose the instructor! (very easy to accelerate away from him / her)
-Drive like a nanny, ride on the right hand wheel track. Do what the rode code says.
hope that helps. :) let us know how you get along.
hey
wat do ya actually mean a u-turn..?? i mean are you allowed to put your legs down or have to keep it on the footpegs?
and regarding riding on the right hand wheel track.... i was gonna do that but my mate told me to ride on the Left hand wheel track. I am confused as i thought if u ride on the right, its better as you will be more visible to on coming traffics???
regards
everyone else, thanx for posting... really appreciate it :)
FEINT
27th April 2005, 10:06
hey
wat do ya actually mean a u-turn..?? i mean are you allowed to put your legs down or have to keep it on the footpegs?
and regarding riding on the right hand wheel track.... i was gonna do that but my mate told me to ride on the Left hand wheel track. I am confused as i thought if u ride on the right, its better as you will be more visible to on coming traffics???
regards
everyone else, thanx for posting... really appreciate it :)
Regarding riding in the right hand wheel track, do as the road code says. After the test you can do either left or right. However, for the test, do what the road code says.
About the U-turn, I was told that you can't put your feet down. I am not completely sure. But I think you will have to keep them on the pegs.
TIP: Slip the clutch.
You will be fine! :)
flyin
27th April 2005, 11:12
Before you sit your full you need to be able to do a figure 8 in a turning circle/within a 2 lane st, with your feet on the pegs the whole time...... should be a piece fo piss on a gz, just keep the power on and watch where you're going.
Stroker Girl
27th April 2005, 11:20
With the U-turn, I had to do one at the end of the caldersac (bad sp!) with my licence. If this comes about, remember to indicate as you go round and also look over your shoulder before you start turning. Keep your feet up.
Another thing is remember the new roundabout rule about when going straight through; indicate left (after you've passed the LH exit). I forgot to do this and got pulled up about it.
Lastly, for the hazard part of the test, they will normally take you through some busy areas, ie past schools, down main streets, industrial areas and then pull you over to ask what hazards you saw. Keep a look out for all the hazards as you go by, i.e kids on side of road, pedestrian crossings, cars/bikes at intersections, cars parked on side of road. The tester will ask you to list these at the end of each section.
Good luck, just ride really carefully and within the speed limit and you'll be fine. :niceone:
v.ros`
27th April 2005, 11:24
thanx alot guys...and girls.
i guess since the road code says to keep left, i assume that means on a motorway when there is traffic moving fast. Thats wat i will do.
on busy roads, i think ill stick in the right lane so people can see me....
will try the 8 turn tonite in some carpark... wil be fun :)
once again, thanx alot bikers.
White trash
27th April 2005, 11:32
Try some wheelies, that never ceaces to impress an instructor.
And every set of lights? Aproach 'em with the back wheel locked up and totally outta line with the front. (Helps to have 20psi in the rear tyre to improve squealies)
Devil
27th April 2005, 13:03
Another thing is remember the new roundabout rule about when going straight through; indicate left (after you've passed the LH exit). I forgot to do this and got pulled up about it.
Thats not actually a new rule. Its been around for a long time. They've just decided they're going to start doing something about it.
XP@
27th April 2005, 13:16
Remember to look where you want to go and do your shoulder checks.
When you pass (cos you will) REMEMBER the 600 is a LOT faster then the 250. If you open the throttle the same then you will go fast... however the destination may not be the desired one. Take it really easy at first, and if you can, find an experienced and patient rider to ride with.
finally Never stop learning, it will save your life one day.
Suney
27th April 2005, 13:32
i don't have my full but that is a nice bike you got there
Waylander
27th April 2005, 14:02
I failed mine the first time round (27 years ago) because I went over a railway line too fast. Just remember those sorts of things
What kind of BS is that? It's never matterd what speed you go over rails just what angle. Go figure, glad I got my licence in the states Gods only know how many things would have failed me if I took it here because the tester is a fuckwit.
Flyingpony
27th April 2005, 14:07
-Don't exceed the speed limit.
-I had to do a U-Turn. Practise that if you aren't good at it.
-Don't lose the instructor! (very easy to accelerate away from him / her)
-Drive like a nanny, ride on the right hand wheel track. Do what the rode code says.
- Ride at or just under speed limit. If in doubt of zone, default to 50km/h.
- Stop sign means stop, not rolling at 0.01km/hr. Both feet on ground.
- Isn't always easy to see their indicators. So get used to U-turns.
- Obey speed hump speed limit - instructor will or you'll lose them.
- Don't expect instructor to follow you when there's a large gap in traffic.
- Stop if you really lose your instructor.
- Remember make/model/colour of instructors car's.
- Make sure your lights all work and your WOF/REGO is current.
- Have plenty of gas in your tank.
- Always enter correct lane and later on (50m) indicate for a lane switch.
- Pick a time when there's not too much traffic.
- Test run the route (at least area) if you know it.
- Don't be nervous.
Good luck.
Oakie
27th April 2005, 15:39
What kind of BS is that? It's never matterd what speed you go over rails just what angle. Go figure, glad I got my licence in the states Gods only know how many things would have failed me if I took it here because the tester is a fuckwit.
Back then in 1978 and it may still be that case, you had to slow down for railway crossings in built up areas (in case you hit the guy who walked infront of the train waving the red flag I guess). :bs: It was also suspected in Oamaru that it was policy to fail us young 'uns first time around so they used any excuse they could find ... (or perhaps we were all bad drivers). Anyhow, second time around I slowed to whatever it was supposed to be (20 mph?) over the line and I got my license.
Sutage
27th April 2005, 20:43
You can actually get a ticket for putting your feet down by a traffic cop. "Not in control of your motorcycle". Wouldnt put ya feet down :msn-wink:
Ixion
27th April 2005, 22:51
Incidentally, if you want a sneak peek at what the examiner will be marking you on (with the actual forms they use to mark you against), go Here (http://www.legislation.govt.nz/libraries/contents/om_isapi.dll?clientID=195535886&infobase=pal_regs.nfo&jump=r1999-100%2fsch.6&softpage=DOC#JUMPDEST_r1999-100/sch.6)
There's a couple of sneaky ones in there, worth reading through
v.ros`
28th April 2005, 09:50
wow
thanx alot guys. really appreciate the tips as well as that link to the test papers.
Thanx :niceone: :niceone: :ride:
FEINT
28th April 2005, 11:39
let us know how it goes tomorrow!
you will be fine! relax!
StoneChucker
28th April 2005, 14:41
let us know how it goes tomorrow!
you will be fine! relax!
Don't worry too much mate. But I know the feeling, no matter what the test I always get nervous. Right after you pass, you'll see that there was no reason to worry.
Still, I know nothing we say will combat those nerves :ride:
To some extent, just relax and ride safely like you usually do.
Remember, the examiner is nervous too (hmm, actually he's not, but yeah...)
Good Luck :niceone: Let us know ey?
pommie girl
28th April 2005, 22:09
Incidentally, if you want a sneak peek at what the examiner will be marking you on (with the actual forms they use to mark you against), go Here (http://www.legislation.govt.nz/libraries/contents/om_isapi.dll?clientID=195535886&infobase=pal_regs.nfo&jump=r1999-100%2fsch.6&softpage=DOC#JUMPDEST_r1999-100/sch.6)
There's a couple of sneaky ones in there, worth reading through
Great info - but I've got a question - what does it mean 'Turning Right/Left Unburdened'??
Ixion
28th April 2005, 22:36
Great info - but I've got a question - what does it mean 'Turning Right/Left Unburdened'??
Blowed if I know. Any ideas, anyone. Lee Rusty, you know what that means?
v.ros`
29th April 2005, 05:29
Hi people again..
last question before i sit for my license.... ooo i feel sif its my bloody university exam...
anyways.... what side of the road are you suppose to ride in... left hand track or the right hand track. Not sure even after reading the road code...
I thought its the right as you will be visible to onlookers while the road code sort of says always keep left (maybe they meant if you are a slow rider and keepng a large que of traffic waiting behind you...)
So anyone who have written their tests recently know where exact am i suppose to position my bike..???
Regards
sparrow_34
29th April 2005, 07:07
Good luck with the test, you have a nice day for it. Try to stay inline with the right hand wheel track of the cages or thereabouts. Use your common sense and try to relax. All the best.
pommie girl
29th April 2005, 08:09
Hi people again..
anyways.... what side of the road are you suppose to ride in... left hand track or the right hand track. Not sure even after reading the road code...
Pretty sure (like 95%) you're supposed to ride in the right hand side wheel track of the vehicle in front - thought it did say that somewhere in the road code for bikes.
Good luck - let us know how it all goes - would be good to get some hints for my full test in July!
v.ros`
29th April 2005, 14:07
YEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
i passed my full license test... it was only like 40 minutes and the dude didnt even ask me for those obstacles or anything like that...
its pretty easy... i rode mostly on the left side of the road as there wasnt alot of traffic and on an open road (coutnry roads) since the speed is high... its good to ride on the left hand side of the road...
its pretty easy... made sure i indicated all the time properly and am jsut over the moon that now i can legally ride my 600 :D
Good luck to everyone whose gonna write their test soon...
Regards
White trash
29th April 2005, 14:24
Great stuff! Knew you would.
How'd the wheelie test go?
pommie girl
29th April 2005, 15:28
Very cool - well done!! :drinknsin
v.ros`
29th April 2005, 16:38
yeah the wheelie went pretty well...
i was failing and then showed him the wheelie and a stoppie on my gz250 cruiser... and he was like.. "WOW"
:)
ohh and who said i gave him some 500NZD for the test :D
White trash
29th April 2005, 16:40
Tell ya what mate. If you'd wheelied your GZ any great distance, he couldn't of HELPED but passed ya and shoulda paid YOU five hundy.
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