So where's the riot?

[taff1954]

John Key on Breakfast this morning:

"bikers ... up and down the street rioting"

Anyone got video of it?

Link - (from 06:05)

http://tvnz.co.nz/breakfast-news/breakfast-monday-november-30-3200715/video?vid=3200867

[mashman]

John Key on Breakfast this morning:

"bikers ... up and down the street rioting"

Anyone got video of it?

More info taff? What was the context?

[crazyhorse]

Gee I hope not - not the kind of publicity we need right now :argh:

[Tank]

You missed the bit at the end where he said "yeah right! - they coundlt even fill a Mall carpark".

[taff1954]

More info taff? What was the context?

More bullshit from jonkey

[crazyhorse]

:argh::argh::argh:

[zahria]

You missed the bit at the end where he said "yeah right! - they coundlt even fill a Mall carpark".

Sounds like a challenge to me.
:rockon:

[Ronin]

More info taff? What was the context?

JK on breakfast this morning with Paul Henry. The gist of his statement was that if you think bikers (I thought he said riding) rioting up and down the country over acc was bad. Imagine what would happen if they followed all the recommendations in the Brash report.

I was only on my first coffee at the time and JK was on the ph so was a little hard to hear.

[Ixion]

That's OK. Good in fact. Works FOR us.

What is best of all for us is if the public have a perception that we are real angry , and likely to really create mayhem and chaos. But no-one actually has any experience of said mayhem or chaos or riot.

That way we get the benefit of the scare tactic, with alienating anyone.

Could any of us have sent a clearer message of how angry we are, than the PM has just done?

[Insanity_rules]

Makes you want to smack a national party supporter don't it?

[taff1954]

That's OK. Good in fact. Works FOR us.

What is best of all for us is if the public have a perception that we are real angry , and likely to really create mayhem and chaos. But no-one actually has any experience of said mayhem or chaos or riot.

That way we get the benefit of the scare tactic, with alienating anyone.

Could any of us have sent a clearer message of how angry we are, than the PM has just done?

Hadn't thought of it that way, guess you're right.

As an aside to that, a well spoken, quite elderly chap at Medlab this morning told me we should be proud of our 'reserved and controlled' approach to parliament - his words, not mine. Pays to wear a protest shirt, I guess

[MSTRS]

That's OK. Good in fact. Works FOR us.

What is best of all for us is if the public have a perception that we are real angry , and likely to really create mayhem and chaos. But no-one actually has any experience of said mayhem or chaos or riot.

That way we get the benefit of the scare tactic, with alienating anyone.

Could any of us have sent a clearer message of how angry we are, than the PM has just done?

What we need is the link to the broadcast. Did he say 'riding' or 'rioting'? There is a world of difference. And if it was 'rioting', all who heard will know that he just spouted another lie. Which we will be honour-bound to point out...for those that didn't hear it.

[mashman]

I reckon we're taking this out of context. Perhaps he WAS taking the piss out of bikers, but he was saying that the level of resistance he's feeling at the moment from us would pale into insignificance should he actually implement some of the reports findings, i.e. everyone would feel the pinch and take to the streets... I could have heard wrongly though!

[taff1954]

What we need is the link to the broadcast. Did he say 'riding' or 'rioting'? There is a world of difference. And if it was 'rioting', all who heard will know that he just spouted another lie. Which we will be honour-bound to point out...for those that didn't hear it.

Link added to my first post. The quote is "Bikies going up and down the street RIOTING"

[Tank]

Makes you want to smack a national party supporter don't it?

Looking at the latest poll results - there are many of us out there.

While I agree that the proposed changes are criminal - NZ is still in a far better position than it would have been if there wasnt the change in g'ment.

So - argue - debate - protest (hell even I did - the first one in my life - and Im hoping to see Nick Smith this evening also).

But - looking at the bigger picture - National are doing more good than harm for the country as a whole.

[Squiggles]

"You've got to sell the story if you like to the NZ public of what you're doing and why, why its fair and equitable, and why the long term rewards make it worthwhile"

[MSTRS]

Link added to my first post. The quote is "Bikies going up and down the street RIOTING"

Yep. Clear as. A few letters to the editor should be winging their way across the ether right about now.

[mashman]

"You've got to sell the story if you like to the NZ public of what you're doing and why, why its fair and equitable, and why the long term rewards make it worthwhile"

That and the comparison of us to Oz???? WTF, apples and oranges anyone...

[NighthawkNZ]

Perhaps he WAS taking the piss out of bikers, but he was saying that the level of resistance he's feeling at the moment from us would pale into insignificance should he actually implement some of the reports findings, i.e. everyone would feel the pinch and take to the streets... I could have heard wrongly though!

When the goobernent borrows money from the reserve bank it has to pay it back with interest so the debt starts right there, once in a bank the bank only has to have a percentage of cash reserve and lend out a percetage more creating more debt out of nothing. every physical dollar out there is owed $9-$10 which physically isn't there and never has been... I monetory system works on scarsity the scarser it is the more its so call worth, which is controlled by the bank

Our monetory system is a pyramid scam and the working class are modern day slaves to the select few. Our monetory system is a fraud that started in the days of slavery and needs to change. Technically there is not eoungh legal tender to pay off all debt anyway. Most governments can't do anything about it ever as they are just puppets

Technically the bank hasn't given you anything and you owe the bank nothing as that socalled debt is already paid for.

Technically there is also no law to say you have to pay tax

hmmm wrong thread... ummm oh never mind...

[mashman]

When the goobernent borrows money from the reserve bank it has to pay it back with interest so the debt starts right there, once in a bank the bank only has to have a percentage of cash reserve and lend out a percetage more creating more debt out of nothing. every physical dollar out there is owed $9-$10 which physically isn't there and never has been... I monetory system works on scarsity the scarser it is the more its so call worth, which is controlled by the bank

Our monetory system is a pyramid scam and the working class are modern day slaves to the select few. Our system is a fraud and needs to change. Technically there is not eoungh legal tender to pay off all debt anyway.

Technically the bank hasn't given you anything and you owe the bank nothing as that socalled debt is already paid for.

Technically there is also no law to say you have to pay tax

hmmm wrong thread... ummm oh never mind...

Oh i know that money is pretty much all virtual, how debt is generated and what it produces, that's just plain old financial economics, nothing new there.

When you say slaves, do you mean that every individual will eventually become an employee of the state? The government in turn being an employee of the Continent, then hemisphere, then Globe, then German!

There's no other way a financial economy can work! The damage is done.

ha ha ha i think all of these threads are turning into 1 these days because they all amount to the same thing... THE FINANCES AND WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE.

[James Deuce]

Looking at the latest poll results - there are many of us out there.

While I agree that the proposed changes are criminal - NZ is still in a far better position than it would have been if there wasnt the change in g'ment.

So - argue - debate - protest (hell even I did - the first one in my life - and Im hoping to see Nick Smith this evening also).

But - looking at the bigger picture - National are doing more good than harm for the country as a whole.

They haven't done anything good - yet.

They've sold out to the Maori Party's demand to repeal the Foreshore and Seabed Act.

That's it.

In the meantime I have meetings to go to with SES about how much they are going to be charging for their services when my youngest goes to school.

[short-circuit]

Makes you want to smack a national party supporter don't it?

I always feel like doing that

[Blue TLS]

I always feel like doing that

makes me want to smack a national party leader:bash:

[phred]

Makes you want to smack a national party supporter don't it?

OOHH Can we? Please Mr Ixion

[NighthawkNZ]

There's no other way a financial economy can work! The damage is done.
.

Why do we have to have a financial monetory system in the first place just because its in your physcie that thats the only way a society can work...


Why does there have to be money or any form of trade in the first place... the resources on this planet belong to every one not to one person or corporation and there is enough to go around to feed, clothe educate and house every human on the planet, we have the technology to do so...

The world bank a joke 30% success rate, and is only after profit at the end and how can it if there isn't enough money in the first place... like duh... oh wait it takes every thing you do own and even then technically they say you owe them more in interest...

The only reason we are in this state is because those in the position (the banks and there owners) don't want to let go and actually help the human race as a whole. I mean how backwards is that...

First thing is stop thinking about money and how much it is going to cost as in reality it costs nothing... all it takes is we just do it... (sponsered by nike air by the sound of it) money is an archaic way of thinking

A resource based society, no money or trade, barter required, you need a new pair of shoes you get a new pair...heck even give you old pair back to be recycled. A resource based society, we are all looking after each other... the way a community should be run


But again that should be another thread :eek5::wacko:;):crazy:

[firefighter]

Sounds like a challenge to me.
:rockon:

lol. +1

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