News on Radio NZ National this morning

[Ms Piggy]

National radio reported that Nick Smith is now considering lowering the ACC Levy for motorcyclists.

Of course to me this isn't surprising because my suspicion (that was shared by others) had always been that the original recommendation was so ridiculously high that we'd all breath a sigh of relief when Snick Mith tell us it's less and he's reducing it.

Don't be fooled! This is all about National Party again trying to put the blame back on ACC so that they come out looking like the good guys. A

Don't forget that the National Party & ACC have always tried to justify the HUGE increase by using incorrect information and incredibly skewed facts.

[Mom]

National radio reported that Nick Smith is now considering lowering the ACC Levy for motorcyclists.

Of course to me this isn't surprising because my suspicion (that was shared by others) had always been that the original recommendation was so ridiculously high that we'd all breath a sigh of relief when Snick Mith tell us it's less and he's reducing it.

Don't be fooled! This is all about National Party again trying to put the blame back on ACC so that they come out looking like the good guys. A

Don't forget that the National Party & ACC have always tried to justify the HUGE increase by using incorrect information and incredibly skewed facts.

I will be having a little chat with Radio NZ in a few minutes.

[wysper]

The news article I read this morning suggests it will still be very high with only a very small reduction. The battle continues.

[Mcycle]

ACC Levy recommendations announced today..

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3111969/Bikers-ACC-levy-lift-pared-back

It all means that the submission process to ACC was a waste of time and we still face big increases and there has been no responses to all our submissions........The proposed increases are yet to be ratified by Parliament so it is all up to Nick Myth now!! God help us.

Roll on a mass protest where by we all put our motorcycle registrations on hold.

[Ms Piggy]

The news article I read this morning suggests it will still be very high with only a very small reduction. The battle continues.

National Radio or who Mom?

[Mom]

National Radio or who Mom?

Radio NZ, though they have not rung yet. Set a time with them last night after our meeting with Nick Smith.

[YAMASAKI]

"The cost for motorbikes bigger than 600cc would rise from $430.54 to $739.32, but that is down on the $781.12 originally suggested by the ACC. It would fall to $659.26 once the law change was in place."

woohoo, $40 less :mad:.

[short-circuit]

Don't forget that the National Party & ACC have always tried to justify the HUGE increase by using incorrect information and incredibly skewed facts.



Also, don't forget the National gutted the previous ACC Board and appointed their own.

There is no actual discrepancy between them - it's only for the public show. Nick of course, wants to appear responsive and sympathetic by "coming to a compromise" (the figure they had always planned)

[T.W.R]

Whoever the so-called motorcyclist's representative was that was interviewed by the radiolive network from last nights meeting and aired on their news this morning was as weak as piss :argh:

yeah sure the interview would have been cut for the amount of allocated airtime but christ they sounded like a school kid trying to weasel their way out of a detention :angry:

[Mom]

Anything in particular you lot want me to say. I will be interviewed at 8:25 or so. I have a few ideas of my own though :blip:

[MSTRS]

What I find strange is how, up to now, the figure/s proposed were ($745) on rego...but in the above report, the figure/s INCLUDE the levy on petrol. I do, say, 8000kms a year - you do 25000kms. We will not be paying the same total amount in levy, will we?
Just how the fuck are we supposed to know the amount on the rego to compare like with like.
Just another of Judge's filthy tricks?

[Naki Rat]

Anything in particular you lot want me to say. I will be interviewed at 8:25 or so. I have a few ideas of my own though :blip:

ACC Insurance is sorting out its books to minimise exposure to bad customers. How long before cyclists, contact sports, DIYers, etc get hit hard. Who's Next!!
Oh and we're only just getting started on this :2guns::2guns::2guns:

[Kflasher]

Anything in particular you lot want me to say. I will be interviewed at 8:25 or so. I have a few ideas of my own though :blip:

How about we (motorcyclist) may very well hold/ control the next election results

[James Deuce]

That stuck a bug up my arse too:

http://kiwiridermagazine.blogspot.com/2009/12/jim-walsh-indignant-awakenings.html

[748south]

Bloody spot on Kflasher! have they stopped to realise how many thousands of votes national will loose as a result of this move?

In the press release this morning -"Why should car drivers continue to subsidise motorcyclists? ---- HANG ON! but motorcyclists are supposed to subsidise RUGBY PLAYERS - SOCCER PLAYERS - NETBALLERS - CYCLISTS - ROCK CLIMBERS ETC ETC ETC !!!!

As far as I see it the only way forward is for one of our better informed members to go on something like Cambell live and ask ACC/Nick Smith directly and on the spot to support their false figures etc.

What does everyone else think?

[Nasty]

On NOW!!!!!!

[PrincessBandit]

...In the press release this morning -"Why should car drivers continue to subsidise motorcyclists? ---- HANG ON! but motorcyclists are supposed to subsidise RUGBY PLAYERS - SOCCER PLAYERS - NETBALLERS - CYCLISTS - ROCK CLIMBERS ETC ETC ETC !!!!


Not to mention that since many of us own cars we actually cross subsidise ourselves...

[James Deuce]

Not to mention that since many of us own cars we actually cross subsidise ourselves...

The Honourable Mr Joyce's eyes apparently crossed when that was pointed out. They STILL think they are dealing with itinerant bike gangs, not voting taxpayers with rateable property and families.

[748south]

MOM just listened to your interview on National, it's pretty evident from the interviewer's responses that the general public and even the Natinal talkback host are not concerned about the bogus information/ propoganda ACC and National have given everyone, and they dont really care

National and ACC are lying to us and they just dont see it as an issue!!!

[Nasty]

MOM just listened to your interview on National, it's pretty evident from the interviewer's responses that the general public and even the Natinal talkback host are not concerned about the bogus information/ propoganda ACC and National have given everyone, and they dont really care

National and ACC are lying to us and they just dont see it as an issue!!!

Yup ... it was a good interview ... interesting how he could just talk over you ...

Points to note for future:

1. Yes Levys are going up on a number of things
2. We pay ACC on car increases, wage increases, petrol and motorcycle ..
3. With so much being paid - and the statement that the insurance company ACC need to increase costs to be self-funded and pay their own increased costs - where is the money going.

[NighthawkNZ]

That stuck a bug up my arse too:

http://kiwiridermagazine.blogspot.com/2009/12/jim-walsh-indignant-awakenings.html


well writen

We have to stick to our guns...

No ACC levy increase is required...

Bikes should be the same as all other vehicles on the road


Then we need to fight for a better and fair way of collection... over all keeping what ACC is and what it was designed for... and that does include cross subsidising the accounts need to be rejoined


ore we could just frop our monetory system all together and become a resoures based system...

[Naki Rat]

A few well spoken words by Les on ZB news at 9.00, and this is a station that has minimised coverage of the ACC campaign to date.

Time for us all to give Leighton Smith a call on 0800 80 10 80 and let him know the real story :mobile:

Link added (http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/thisweek/hourrecs/Tue,%20Dec%201%2009.00%20trn-newstalk-zb-akl.asf) - first news story at 1:12

[phred]

How about we (motorcyclist) may very well hold/ control the next election results

The only way that I can see we will get any change is to keep the issue public until the next election and then vote the bastards into oblivion. The ONLY thing politicians understand is "what must i do to get reelected and keep my job because I am fucking useless in the real world" Recent KB politician just done maiden speech excepted. Him for PM

[DEVVIL]

ACC Levy recommendations announced today..

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3111969/Bikers-ACC-levy-lift-pared-back

It all means that the submission process to ACC was a waste of time and we still face big increases and there has been no responses to all our submissions........The proposed increases are yet to be ratified by Parliament so it is all up to Nick Myth now!! God help us.

Roll on a mass protest where by we all put our motorcycle registrations on hold.

It worked with the TV fee
Power to the people
It cost them more to collect the money than the (TV) fee
1st Jan all rego's on hold! :rockon:
We need to do something and soon!!!

[crazyhorse]

National radio reported that Nick Smith is now considering lowering the ACC Levy for motorcyclists.



... not what I had heard on the 9.30 news today :nono:

[Ozzie]

On NOW!!!!!!

Hey Nasty / Mum any chance of a link?

[Hanne]

Link to Radio NZ (http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport)

I'm not Nasty or Mom but there you go!

[Ms Piggy]

... not what I had heard on the 9.30 news today :nono:

Do share....

[Ozzie]

Link to Radio NZ (http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport)

I'm not Nasty or Mom but there you go!


thanks, it was there, scroll down to 8:38

http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/national/mnr/2009/12/01/bikers_have_a_warning_for_the_government

[hayd3n]

who the fuck voted national

[Laxi]

The state insurer will today release to ministers its final recommendation

this farkn boils my bunny!:angry: the "media" (if you can call these state sponsered tossers that) just roll over and casually start calling ACC the state insurer without a word against it

[Maha]

who the fuck voted national

Not me, never have, in fact, my very first Vote was for the Bob Jones lead New Zealand Party (short lived as it was) but they did the job they set out to do, and that was get rid of the then National Government.

[NONONO]

Just heard the radio interview, well done that woman, sterling stuff, and so rational. Nicely to the point and not a hint of "Piss Off" when he talked over you.
Nice, very nice.

[James Deuce]

this farkn boils my bunny!:angry: the "media" (if you can call these state sponsered tossers that) just roll over and casually start calling ACC the state insurer without a word against it

You and me both.

[Hanne]

Mom loved it at the end when he was like 'Anne James, a... motorcyclist'. It was a raised eyebrow kind of a pause as if you weren't big and hairy enough to qualify for that title

[Mom]

Mom loved it at the end when he was like 'Anne James, a... motorcyclist'. It was a raised eyebrow kind of a pause as if you weren't big and hairy enough to qualify for that title

What can I say really, I dont fit the knuckle dragging, neanderthal image they so want to portray. Next time I may even wear lippy :laugh:

[MSTRS]

And a sensible twin set?

[PrincessBandit]

What can I say really, I dont fit the knuckle dragging, neanderthal image they so want to portray. Next time I may even wear lippy :laugh:

Klingon and I made sure we'd done our makeup before the ladies coffee ride the other weekend.....

[klingon]

Klingon and I made sure we'd done our makeup before the ladies coffee ride the other weekend.....

It's very important to be a well-turned-out Neanderthal ;)

It was quite funny to see all the helmets come off and underneath there was as much mascara and lippy as you'd see in your average Miss NZ contest. :laugh:

[Bald Eagle]

It's very important to be a well-turned-out Neanderthal ;)

It was quite funny to see all the helmets come off and underneath there was as much mascara and lippy as you'd see in your average Miss NZ contest. :laugh:

I will be well presented but I refuse to wear lippy. :laugh:

[k2w3]

That's not what Steve said.

[fliplid]

The question surely arises as to how "they" expect motorcyclists to be patched gang member criminals and at the same time "born again" professionals, on the associated mega cruiser, returning to riding on machines way too powerful for their capabilities?