Adventure helmets?

[bart]

It's about time to retire my old Arai helmet. It's been very faithful, but after a wee spill, I managed to scratch the scratch proof (or is that resistant) visor. I was quoted $160 for a new visor :shit: so thought bugger it. New helmet time.

I'm a stronge believer in the "you get whet you pay for" moto, so I'm looking for something mid range of $400 - $700. (Any prices here are only indications, and may vary). There are only really 3 stipulations, it must have a removable lineing (man I can sweat), black is my favoured colour, and...... oh yeah, I'd like it to save my head in a crash.

I'm after any advice from people who have tried some of these helmets, or have anything useful to say (or useless, it doesn't really bother me).

The Arai X3 is probably the ultimate adv helmet. $1049 (+ $200 if you want to look like Ewan and Charlie). A wee bit out of my price range. I have a family and mortgage.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2881&pictureid=35996

Shoei Hornet $999 (I've been offered one of these a LOT cheaper)

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2881&pictureid=35995

Rjays Dakar $249 (not fussed on the fighter pilot look)

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2881&pictureid=35992

HJC CL-XS $229 (looks like a good helmet for not much more than an Arai visor, but a bit ugly)

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2881&pictureid=35990

Are there any I'm missing. There must be more adventure helmets out there. These are all above or below my price range also.

What advantages do adventure style helmets have over road helmets. It's not often that I've thought 'I wish I had a peak'. I can understand the ventilation thing with the chin piece.

Also, how do the visors for these things compare. Being quite different to road visors, are they much more expensive?

I'll run through some road helmet options later.

[bart]

As for road options, there's heaps. Here are some I kind of like:

Arai Chaser - Base model Arai $899. I really liked my last one, but I'm put off by the price of the visor ($160). Would buy another one if I was doing serious road work.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2881&pictureid=35988

Shoei Raid 2 - Real good mid range helmet at $549

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2881&pictureid=35994

Shark RSF3 - $549. some of my mates swear by Shark helmets.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2881&pictureid=35993

HJC FS-10 ($769) and HQ1 ($699) - Carbon jobs. I like the look of these, and the price. Looks like great value for money.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2881&pictureid=35989

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2881&pictureid=35991

AGV Stealth ($649) - Love this........but I'd have to buy an R1 to go with it. Might look a bit silly on a DR650. I've had a good run out of an AGV in the past.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2881&pictureid=35987

Your thoughts....

edit: I've missed out open face and flip front jobs because I gave up smoking years ago.

[Sidewinder]

shoei or arai only bro!
rest are all shit, you jsut have to find what head you have to what brand you get. i have a shoei head, which is good because there road helmets are sexy.
:devil2:

[Kokopelli]

The Shoei Hornet has had a huge jump in price since I've bought mine. Paid $630 and now they want $999. I wonder why? Can't be the exchange rate.

Love mine though. It's very comfortable, reasonably light and the pin lock visor works as advertised.

[JATZ]

I have one of those HJC cl-xs thingys, I might by another, depends how I feel on the day.
Do you REEEALy need to spend all that coin on a helmet ? After all, 1 good knock and you should replace it anyway.
My $250 LS2 is more comfortable than the $800 shoei I tried on

[Fluffy Cat]

I have a Hornet and its not bad at all. Light weight and excellent vents. The visor fits perfectly. I would guess that the Arai would be totally comparable. Those would be my choices.

[.chris]

I went with the try em on and pick the one that feels best.
I ended up with a BMW Enduro helmet which was around the ($900 mark).

The major benefit with the dual sport style helmets is the visibility, periferal vision is far better with the ones I have experienced.
Infact when I use my road helmet (AGV S4, similar to the stealth you have pictured) it feels very restrictive and the chin part is much larger and visibility towards the front wheel is pretty restricted, where the curved mx shape of a dual sport helmet gives much better visibility.

Another cheap option to consider is the AFX FX37ds. I got one imported from the USA for my brother for about $200nzd

[Waihou Thumper]

Replace the visor, get two, if that's all that is damaged...
Still saving, right? :niceone:

I have an X3, awesome lid! I will have it forever...AND, it even has a decal on it....:)
Oh no, is that bad?...

[george formby]

I have been thinking of a peaked helmet with visor too. My Caberg has an internal sun visor which is brilliant but I do get a bit of buffeting at higher speeds, obviously not the helmets fault. Other TDM owners with the same problem have said a peaked helmet stops the buffeting, also, when you tip your head down, the peak goes a long way to minimise sun strike.

[warewolf]

I'm a stronge believer in the "you get whet you pay for" moto,Unfortunately, in terms of helmets and safety, you'd be wrong.

webBikeWorld has some really good helmet info, start at: Motorcycle Helmet FAQs (http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-helmets/motorcycle-helmet-faq.htm).

[Kokopelli]

Unfortunately, in terms of helmets and safety, you'd be wrong.

webBikeWorld has some really good helmet info, start at: Motorcycle Helmet FAQs (http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-helmets/motorcycle-helmet-faq.htm).

There is more to a helmet than just its safety rating, but I specifically bought a Hornet that met the ECE 22.05 standard, because in my mind this standard makes the most sense. I could have bought the same helmet with a Snell rating.

I see it like this, no helmet will be perfect for every situation. However, any helmet that I buy will have to fit me, be light, have good ventilation, a wide field of view, have an interior that doesn't upset my sensitive skin and lastly, look good to me. I will buy the helmet that comes closest to this ideal, at a price I can afford.

I'd love one of those super light carbon helmets that's not black, but so far, that's where I've drawn the line.

Thankfully there are lots of helmets out there, so it shouldn't be too hard to find one you like. I wouldn't be put off If my ideal helmet was also cheap. At the same time I am quite happy to pay more for one that looks good to me.

The next thing I'll have to look at is one of those neck braces. As a relatively clumsy rider it's easy to justify spending money on gear that works.

[bart]

I have one of those HJC cl-xs thingys, I might by another, depends how I feel on the day.
Do you REEEALy need to spend all that coin on a helmet ? After all, 1 good knock and you should replace it anyway.
My $250 LS2 is more comfortable than the $800 shoei I tried on

I know what you mean. The guy in the shop said a modern $200 helmet has more features and may be safer than what $1000 helmets were 10 years ago.

For me it's a peace of mind thing. You want to know you're wearing something that's going to give you the best chance of survival if the shit does hit the fan.

[bart]

The major benefit with the dual sport style helmets is the visibility, periferal vision is far better with the ones I have experienced.


Good point. Perhaps the adv style is better.

[dino3310]

well ive jus bought me a zues for $180 and im most impressed with the comfort, removeble liner aswell, turns into a nice road helmet to. not as light as my grex but more comfy and quieter

[tri boy]

I talked to a helmet design engineer in the late eighties about cost and performance. (He had been designing them for many years).
Bottom line is, almost all helmets will withstand any impact that cause brain damage, but other injuries like broken neck/spinal cord etc cannot be prevented.
You pay top price for Arai/Shoei/Bell etc, because they constantly redesign, and that swallows huge amounts of R+D funds.
I own Arai, Shoei, Nolan, Grex, and several others. They all do exactly the same job..............restrict my peripheral vision,:shifty:, but do stop the rain stinging my eyes, and the road shaving flesh off my bonce if/when I have an accident.
Find one you feel most comfortable with, and wear it.................most of the time.:mellow:

[Dakar]

Hey Bart, check out this website, http://www.webbikeworld.com/
i am looking for a new lid too, i bought the HJC one, $50 on trade me brand new, its shit, not even worth the bargin i got it for, tried the Shoei and the Arai, both excellent, but couldn't bring my self to part with the cash.....interested in the Rjays, but i dont know who retails them.
there is another made by Zeus, apparently a pretty good lid for the money, i think around $300,

[warewolf]

There is more to a helmet than just its safety rating,Yes - hence my caveat. wBW goes in to those other factors. Fit is very important.


For me it's a peace of mind thing. You want to know you're wearing something that's going to give you the best chance of survival if the shit does hit the fan.In that regard, a new $200 helmet every year will offer more protection than one $1000 helmet every 5 years due to both technology improvements in the new ones, and gradual deterioration of the old helmet.

Remember a polycarbonate shell only lasts what, 3 years? and a fibreglass one 5. Thermoplastic less than 3, innit?

[Dakar]

I went with the try em on and pick the one that feels best.
I ended up with a BMW Enduro helmet which was around the ($900 mark).



Hy C.h.r.i.s, where did you get the BMW enduro lid for 9 spot, sounds like a deal!

[Eddieb]

I have the Zeus.

Pros:
Price, of course
Comfortable
Not too noisy
Peak works well and is adjustable

Cons:
Slightly les periferal vision that my Arai road helmet
The lining hasn't lasted that well, on a really hot day in the Waikato some of the vinyl split.

While Arai make the most comfortable helmets I've ever worn, the amount of noise they create far outweighs any other benefits they may have. I can only just bear to ride around town without plugs in my Arai.

[Wiki Drifter]

I've got an Airoh S4 as my adv helmet, bought if off Ebay for under $400. Its lighter but noisier compared to my Shoei RF1000 road lid. Noise is pretty bad with the visor open and going >50km/h without ear plugs, but its fine for low speed trail riding.

http://www.motoraid.eu/shop/images/AirohS4street_red.jpg

[dino3310]

Hey Bart, check out this website, http://www.webbikeworld.com/
there is another made by Zeus, apparently a pretty good lid for the money, i think around $300,

emoto where selling them on terdme on speical 186 reserve, was the Zeus 2100B Dual Sport "Adventure" Helmet

[Box'a'bits]

I am in the mkt for a new helmet too.

I definitely want a peak this time around. Riding in the MMMMM highlighted the importance of that for me (winter low sun - couldn't see squat). Want to be able to wear googles as an option to using just the visor. Want good airflow, but also the capacity to drop this back (in winter). Comfort is important to me. The pinlock visors are attractive for anti-fogging. I want a decent anti scratch visor. I really like the ability of my current Shoei Road Helmet to pop off the visor for a clean, then to quickly snap back on, but am not aware of any adventure helmets that can do this.

Guess I am talking myself into an up market helmet, like Arai, or Shoei. Other options I haven't properly investigated (because they don't have a ready dealership handy) are: Airoh, BMW Enduro.

I'm aware that on a cost / performance basis some of the cheaper helmets may make good sense, especially from a regular replacement view point (my last road helmet is nrly a decade old). I tried a Zeus (in my normal XL size). No way near fitting - too small. This has been common in some of the cheaper helmets I have looked at. The padding on some on some feels cheap too. I guess that's why they are cheap. Have a chat to EddieB. His Zeus was starting to wear badly after 12 mths use. So comes down to that quality conversation again

[bart]

Thanks for the feedback guys. Lots of interesting info. Keep it coming.

I'll have to double check that price on the Shoei Hornet. I'm sure they must be cheaper than $999.

That's a good point about buying a cheap new one every other year. Our helmets (well mine anyway) do get a hammering. I've got an old AGV that I still use when commuting. I think it's 16 years old. My mate ran it over with his car one day. Might be about time to throw that one away.

[NordieBoy]

emoto where selling them on terdme on speical 186 reserve, was the Zeus 2100B Dual Sport "Adventure" Helmet

$185 is the normal retail price +/- $10.

Faster/longer rides I wear the Zeus 2100b.
Slower/shorter rides I wear the Oxford open-face - no restriction of peripheral vision at all. Great for photography.

[dino3310]

$185 is the normal retail price +/- $10.

.

shit they roped me in, still happy though only burned me $1.50

[Oscar]

I have the Arai XD and the Shoei Hornet.
Both great helmets, good fit and finish - but my favourite is the Shoei.

Why?
The pinlock visor and the fact that I have a Shoei Head.
Shoei's just happen to fit me better'n Arai's.

Oh, and to rehash a previous thread - the peak: The Arai is annoying at speed, but works when needed. The Shoei doesn't have a problem at speed, but the peak is decoration unless the sun is directly overhead.

[andy mac]

Oh, and to rehash a previous thread - the peak: The Arai is annoying at speed, but works when needed. The Shoei doesn't have a problem at speed, but the peak is decoration unless the sun is directly overhead.

I agree with Oscar the Shoei's peak does nothing except look trailbike cool. But the venting is really useful & I am always adjusting them on the move. Replacement visors & pinlocks are expensive to replace. I believe you can use small googles with them.

And use normal goggles in Arai but can't close the chin vent?

[NordieBoy]

The main thing with the Zeus 2100b is that it's a road helmet (2100) with a peak.

For some that's a negative but for others it's a plus.

Those who normally wear a road helmet adventuring may really like it.

The peak works really well too.

[cooneyr]

I’ve been through a Grex RD, Airoh S4 and Shoei Hornet in the past 3 years. The RD1 was uncomfortable and didn't vent well (Road helmet converted really). The S4 fitted OK but not brilliantly, was very noisy (air leaked around visor and whistled) OK air flow but not adjustable. Hornet is the bees knees for me. It has good air flow (I wear glasses so being able to defog without getting glasses wet is important and no I don’t use the pinlock - too lasy to put it in), the ram style air vent on the peak is awesome on hot days - works brilliantly, fit is bloody awesome, visor seals well when necessary, peak isn't the greatest for blocking sun/roost etc but is better than nothing and doesn’t catch the wind. I got mine for about $600 so significantly cheaper than the X3. The liner is removalable and it comes in a range of colours (light colours for me the RD1 was a black oven). I'd definitely get another Hornet.

Cheers R

[Shadowjack]

+1 for the Zeus 2100B - fits well, not too noisy, peak works real well.

[Box'a'bits]

Bought a Shoei Hornet today for $600 from the gentleman who recently sold his KTM 950SE. :done: New & unused. Fit is good. We'll see how it performs. I see what people mean re the peak. But think I can work around that, given the other benefits

Steve

[Crisis management]

Good info here, I have the Shoei head but would rather have a peak that works, not having one is a real pain in the arse, after I finish spending gazillions on the bike I will have to buy a helmet....I'm trying the off road helmet this weekend on an adventure ride so my opinion will be swinging one way or the other after that, goggles and rain!

Interesting about the Airoh, I was reccomended that by someone with brains so it was on my list to look at, but if it's noisy I'm not interested.

[OV Lander]

After various shops consistently failed to return calls, provide service, source my size I eventually bought my Arai Tour X-2 (Feb 08) from a guy who was importing various helmets to order. Teh price was sharp, and was well worth a quick e-mail...falkenn@gmail.com

[Taz]

Had a look at both the Shoei and HJC today. Shoei was nice but I think the fact that the visor on the HJC won't open fully would annoy me and would make it hard to fit goggles. Does the visor on the Zeus and Airoh open fully with the peak on?

[george formby]

I've got an Airoh S4 as my adv helmet, bought if off Ebay for under $400. Its lighter but noisier compared to my Shoei RF1000 road lid. Noise is pretty bad with the visor open and going >50km/h without ear plugs, but its fine for low speed trail riding.

http://www.motoraid.eu/shop/images/AirohS4street_red.jpg

I have an Airoh too, very light, very noisy but looks cool.

[NordieBoy]

Does the visor on the Zeus open fully with the peak on?

Yes it does...

[bart]

Bought a Shoei Hornet today for $600 from the gentleman who recently sold his KTM 950SE. :done: New & unused. Fit is good. We'll see how it performs. I see what people mean re the peak. But think I can work around that, given the other benefits

Steve

Nice one. Best price I can find is $899 for one of these.

[bart]

Zeus 2100B $299

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2881&pictureid=36110

[NordieBoy]

Zeus 2100B $299

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2881&pictureid=36110

Someone is making a killing...

RRP is $198.92
http://www.nwa.co.nz/product_detail.php?P_ID=1530

[dino3310]

$189.00 from emoto's terdme

[Box'a'bits]

Someone is making a killing...RRP is $198.92. http://www.nwa.co.nz/product_detail.php?P_ID=1530

It's the graphics don't you know. :confused: They have to pay some dweeb a 1/2 a stale crust to put those on, at ENORMOUS additional cost :no:.

[bart]

Someone is making a killing...

RRP is $198.92


As I've been finding out, you pay at least $100 for the pretty paint job.

[Box'a'bits]

Nah my Shoei purchase ($600) is the Sonora with tasteful black metallic, with grey metalic racing stripes. :laugh: Very pleased. Strangely the $100 difference between the plain helmets & the 2 versions of the Sonoras has disappeared. Pre-price rise they were $799 & $899.

[bart]

Very nice. Let me know what you think of it.

I'm starting to feel a pull towards the Shoei. Prices I found were $899 for the plain and $999 for the pretty one like yours...............but shhhhhhhhh......I may have found a cheaper one.

[Woodman]

Spent a fair bit of time annoying helmet salespeople today. Tried on a few and shit is it hard to find a lid to fit my melon. It would seem there is no standards in sizes as some xxl,s fitted ok and others wouldn't even go over me cauliflowered right ear.:no: unfortunately the Shoei like above fits the best, but i might just get a mx helmet and use my goggles and use me old road ffm for longer trips. Its a waste of time buying one without trying it on first.

[Eddieb]

http://www.andystrapz.com/productdetails.php?pid=94&BACK=72

clip on peak visor thingy.

[Taz]

http://www.andystrapz.com/productdetails.php?pid=94&BACK=72

clip on peak visor thingy.
But then you can't have your visor up.........

[Box'a'bits]

But then you can't have your visor up.........
The link says that they attach to your visor, so yes, riding with your visor up would be like having air brakes on....:clap:

[awa355]

Unfortunately, in terms of helmets and safety, you'd be wrong.

webBikeWorld has some really good helmet info, start at: Motorcycle Helmet FAQs (http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-helmets/motorcycle-helmet-faq.htm).

I have just diverted to this website you recommended. What a lot of useful info. Have added it to my favorites. Thanks for the referrence.

[Box'a'bits]

So, Bart, what did you get, and what were the things that attracted you to that helmet?

[bart]

So, Bart, what did you get, and what were the things that attracted you to that helmet?

Well, I'm not at home, so I can't put up a picture.........but it looks a wee bit like this one.....

[bart]

Shoei Hornet DS Sonora (black/grey, just like yours Steve)

Everyone here seem pleased with theirs, so I thought they must be good.

Bike shop in Napier has had one sitting around for a while. They got it in for a guy but it didn't fit. Managed to get it for cost + 'FA' of $650. RRP is currently $999 for the Sonora model (the pretty painted one). Big ups to Fivestar Suzuki.

I was tempted to go for a road helmet, particularly the HJC carbon job. The big selling point for the Hornet is the amount of vision you get. It's important when blasting down windy gravel roads to see that suicidal sheep jump off the bank beside you. Peripheral vision is very good with this helmet.

The other selling point is the ventilation. It looks to have ample vents for a sweaty dude like me. I don't think road helmets are quite as good in this department.

I'm unsure about the peak. I think it's only there for looks.:cool:

It seems to be a comfortable helmet and I can't wait to try it out on the bike.

The only downer is........$160 for a replacement visor. Back to square one if I scratch it. :nono:

Thanks for all your input guys. I hope this thread becomes a useful tool for others looking at adventure helmets.

[Paladin]

Nice one Bart! I really liked my Shoei Hornet DS - low wind noise, good ventilation(it never steamed up once!) BUT it did lift my head at speed much more easily than my Arai Tour X3 does - I think the airflow through the peak thingy is better on the Arai. Apart from that definitely no complaints AND it probably saved me from very serious head injuries or worse last Easter Sunday on Orongorongo! Bloody good helmet mate, hope you enjoy it!
:niceone:

[bart]

Cheers Dave. I would have looked at the Arai, but couldn't justify $1000+ for something that probably isn't going to get looked after very well (fall off bike mirror when stopped, pelted with stones, hit with low branches when riding through bush, crashing, etc.) :msn-wink:

[Paladin]

Cheers Dave. I would have looked at the Arai, but couldn't justify $1000+ for something that probably isn't going to get looked after very well (fall off bike mirror when stopped, pelted with stones, hit with low branches when riding through bush, crashing, etc.) :msn-wink:

Know what you mean! The only reason i got the Arai was cos the insurance paid for replacement of my Hornet after my accident so my Arai cost me less than the Hornet cash out of my pocket wise, otherwise i would definitely have just gone for another Hornet! TBH the Hornet was more comfortable fit-wise than the Arai, which is very snug on your cheeks to say the least!

[Box'a'bits]

Shoei Hornet DS Sonora (black/grey, just like yours Steve). Everyone here seem pleased with theirs, so I thought they must be good. The big selling point for the Hornet is the amount of vision you get. Peripheral vision is very good with this helmet. The other selling point is the ventilation. I'm unsure about the peak. I think it's only there for looks.:cool: It seems to be a comfortable helmet and I can't wait to try it out on the bike. The only downer is........$160 for a replacement visor. Back to square one if I scratch it. :nono:
First impressions for mine were very good. The vents have an appreciable impact, especially if it cooler outside & you are sweating. I've taken off the chin breath guard to improve ventilation around the face. This will be good in the cooler months however. I found the visor on my last Shoei v.scratch resistant, so am not anticipating having to replace this. I will take off the pinlock antifog for the summer, and that seems to be something that may scratch up. The liner unclips, which means it can be cleaned - something most road helmets doesn't allow. Downsides - minor & expected. The peak does catch the wind a bit on a gusty day. Don't know what it would be like at speed.

[Kokopelli]

make sure the plastic screws are done up tight. I've lost two out of there. Good idea about taking the pin-lock out, I hadn't even considered it. I often ride with the visor open and dust gets to it. You also have to be careful that the peak is right back, otherwise it can scratch the visor.

[warewolf]

The big selling point for the Hornet is the amount of vision you get. It's important when blasting down windy gravel roads to see that suicidal sheep jump off the bank beside you. Peripheral vision is very good with this helmet.My understanding of the legislation was helmets weren't permitted to obscure your peripheral vision, so all of them have a viewing port wider than you can see??

[bart]

My understanding of the legislation was helmets weren't permitted to obscure your peripheral vision, so all of them have a viewing port wider than you can see??

The hole in the front of the hornet is much bigger than the hole in the front of my road Arai. I'll get the tape measure out.....

[bart]

Well..........I lined up all my helmets, and there wasn't much in it. They all have pretty much the same size hole. The shape varies a wee bit, so you get a bit more up/down view, but the side/side view is virtualy the same.

I'll start eating my hat now. :second:

[Eddieb]

While I haven't measured it i have noticed that my Zeus either has a narrower opening or a different shape that effectively gives you less peripheral vision than my Arai road lid.

[gav24]

Just starting this one up again...
In the market for a new lid, peak and visor type this time. Using my 661 mx lid and goggles is no good on the road. Loud and catches too much wind.
Cant afford a Shoei or Arai, I already have 2 road arai's and love them for road stuff, but too bulky and no peak for off road stuff.
I have tried the HJC - hated it, because the visor distorts your view around the nose guard area, giving me a headache after a while - like wearing someone elses glasses!. The visor wont lift right up either - very annoying!
Looks like the airoh may have the distortion issue as well as the visor has a sharp bend around the nose guard/chin bar bit?
Cant stand the look of the zeus, I know, I'm vain!
Anybody had any experience of the Rjays lid? Looks quite good, and the extender peak thingy may be useful...or may break the first time I use it!
HELP!!!

[dino3310]

:yes:grex RD1
or one of these http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Helmets-clothing-footwear/Helmets/auction-278953842.htm

ive got a zues at the moment its pretty good but i prefer the old Nolan triboy lent me which is identical to the grex

[gav24]

I'll look into the grex RD1.
Yes the 'ffm' on tard me seems pretty good, but, and a bloody big BUT, those graphics!!!:sick:
Skulls man! Jeez! I'm not a 13 year old motocrosser:blink:
If only they'd do one is a nice plain colour, silver maybe- even white would do, but skulls...:bye:

[dino3310]

they have plain ones too

[gav24]

Doh! should have looked at more than the pics and actualy read to the end of the ad.
Seem to look the part, and a tinted visor for only $25 extra as well seems good.
Anyone actually tried one though? opinions...

[junkmanjoe]

pm Gsers in palmerston north he has one.

he be happy to chat to you..

JMJ

[GSers]

Yeah. I bought 1 cheap at city Honda 1 year birthday bash just over $100 if I remember correctly. I haven't used it much yet but Slow speed good, comfortable yes, air flow good, visor is best left down as it doesn't go completely up out of the way. High speed it catch's the wind but I am picking that all peaked helmets will do that just a matter of getting used to it. Other thing I must have been spoilt with with the BMW helmets is sun burn never used sunscreen in my helmet horrible sticky stuff but would need to with this as there is no protection with the visor I think BMW visiors reduce something like 98 Percent UVA & UVB rays So looks like the next investment will have to be in a BMW Adventure helmet.
regards GSers

[Night Falcon]

I am Trying to find a Shoie Hornet in XL black & Orange graphics, if any one knows where there are any loitering around? The importer wont have any for another 4-5 months! Has any one tried buying them from Aussie?

[gav24]

Thanks for the info.
Yes I think the peak issue with wind is just a given, keep head down a bit and slow down into headwinds!
Seems that lifting the visor is an issue with the cheaper adv helmets... the HJC looked like it could be solved by cutting some plastic off the peak in the centre where it meets the helmet. Knowing my luck it would the start some strange venturi effect and suck the snot out my nose and into my eyes!:shit:, or start whistling at 120db at any speed over 20km! :blink:
Good that there is no distortion when looking through the visor though, I found that a huge issue with the HJC, and some weird hedgerow reflections that only stopped when I put my hands by my ears!:blink::blink: bizarre!
Anyway:shutup:
Just need to know if the Rjay Dakar is any good now as thats my other option... One on Tard me, my size, finishes in a few hours...

[dino3310]

Doh! should have looked at more than the pics and actualy read to the end of the ad.
Seem to look the part, and a tinted visor for only $25 extra as well seems good.
Anyone actually tried one though? opinions...

i talked to a mate on here who had both the matrix and the zues, the zues was more road going where the matrix was a little lighter more noise and air flow. i think i would prefer the matrix more now im on the XR where the Zuess was perfect for the riding i did on the BIG.

[gav24]

So if i have a DR then i should go for the ......?

Go on all you KTM / KLR / XR etc riders - I've left a door wide open there!

[dino3310]

i was more meaning i'll be doing a lot more trail and rough stuff riding on the XR and the matrix would be more suitable than the zuess, but having said that im bidding on an MX helmet ... im cheap and a dollar reserve gets me bidding :lol:

[bart]

So if i have a DR then i should go for the ......?



Hi..... I'm Bart..... and I own a DR.

The Shoei is great, but you still get a bit of that cross-eyed shit going on. Might be just the thing you get with this kind of helmet.

[NordieBoy]

Might be just the thing you get with this kind of helmet.

No. It's just you.

[bart]

No. It's just you.

Ahhhhh. It's that 'sober' thing isn't it. 6 beers and I see 20/20. :niceone:

[gav24]

Looks like I need to get to shop and try a few on...
...and take my beer goggles with me!

[XF650]

I prefer my Zeus over my Grex, mainly because of better air flow to reduce fogging.
The Zeus is surprisingly stable at high speeds too, well tested on Saturday when I rode a borrowed GSX1200 on the Coro loop (thanks again rogson). I probably looked a dork wearing an adv helmet on a naked sports bike but the peak sure was a blessing when riding back to Auckland into the low sun.

[gav24]

I know, I know!
Zeus is great value for money, it all works well, and no teenager graphics!
BUT,
I just think its so ugly !!!
back to the Rjays until I hear whats wrong with it...

[Peril]

back to the Rjays until I hear whats wrong with it...

It's a copy of the FFM TX10,but with visor added ;)
Quite like the look of the Matrix minus the skulls,shame it only comes in solid black and not a solid white also.

[reofix]

cmon boys ... adventure helmets are a scam ... next we will have lite , medium and heavy adventure helmets with a choice of continent ... bollocks !!!

[NordieBoy]

cmon boys ... adventure helmets are a scam ... next we will have lite , medium and heavy adventure helmets with a choice of continent ... bollocks !!!

What colours?

[gav24]

cmon boys ... adventure helmets are a scam ... next we will have lite , medium and heavy adventure helmets with a choice of continent ... bollocks !!!

Eh???:blink:
MX helmet too noisy and goggles a pain on the road.
Road helmet a pain with no peak for the bush and low sun.

Pretty sure both of these are common problems that I have when mixing road and off road in one ride. :blink:

So whats the scam with Adv helmets?
Please enlighten me before I spend my money?:shit::soon:

[Oscar]

Eh???:blink:
MX helmet too noisy and goggles a pain on the road.
Road helmet a pain with no peak for the bush and low sun.

Pretty sure both of these are common problems that I have when mixing road and off road in one ride. :blink:

So whats the scam with Adv helmets?
Please enlighten me before I spend my money?:shit::soon:

He's a 1200gs owner - he knows about scams:innocent:

[gav24]

He's a 1200gs owner - he knows about scams:innocent:

:laugh::laugh::laugh::niceone:

[Box'a'bits]

Fair to say my Shoei Hornet flows a lot more air than my Road Shoei. For that alone, Reofix's comments don't fly for me. :mellow: Maybe we are doing somewhat different rides. If I was just doing gravel, then maybe that would stack...

The peak is probably too short to be really useful cfw a MX helmet, but is still useful.

I really like being able to unclip the visor on the road Shoei helmet, so I can wash it at a gas stations etc, to get rid of dust & bugs mid ride :yes: The Hornet can't do that, but then I haven't seen any adv helmet that can..

I can unclip the lining from the Hornet & completely wash that, which (given how manky I get after a good ride) has to be more pleasant than not!! :shifty:

[bart]

I agree. The airflow on an ADV helmet compared to a road is way beterer. Only problem I've found is as Steve has said, pain in the ass getting the visor off.

[Monstaman]

Just bought a Shoei Hornet DS from Tardme last week, should arrive tomorrow or Friday, really looking forward to getting it.

[Oscar]

Due to dubious connections within the industry, I have a reasonable helmet collection, including a Shoei Hornet and a Arai Tour X. Basically the Shoei edges the Arai slightly in every department except the peak - the Hornet peak is neither use nor ornament, but the pin-lock visor and venting on the Shoei is fantastic.


In respect of our nay-saying comrade, I also have a Shoei XR1000, which is a great road helmet, but not a patch on a real adventure lid when the going gets tight and sweaty...

[Crisis management]

In respect of our nay-saying comrade, I also have a Shoei XR1000, which is a great road helmet, but not a patch on a real adventure lid when the going gets tight and sweaty...

You're right there...have you tried the Airoh S4? I keep hearing good things about these and they suit a Shoei head shape too!

[cooneyr]

You're right there...have you tried the Airoh S4? I keep hearing good things about these and they suit a Shoei head shape too!

Had a S4 and now have a Hornet. Hornet fits me much better (Shoei head?), vents way better and doesnt have a bloody annoying whistle. Semi cured the whistle but still annoying as hell.

[Oscar]

You're right there...have you tried the Airoh S4? I keep hearing good things about these and they suit a Shoei head shape too!

I've never actually clapped eyes on an Airoh.
I shall seek it out.

I too have a Shoei head (this perhaps should be a concern for one of us...).

[El scooto]

Had a S4 and now have a Hornet. Hornet fits me much better (Shoei head?), vents way better and doesnt have a bloody annoying whistle. Semi cured the whistle but still annoying as hell.

You mean it's annoying for me since you no longer have it. I've breifly tried on cooneyr's shoei and would be looking at one very closely when the time comes for a replacement. Certainly more comfortable.

[Woodman]

I can vouch fo the shoei /airoh head thing. tried both and they fit my oversized melon very well. The only other brand that seems ok is FFM. The sizez, e.g. xl vary so much between brands.

[CrazyFrog]

I'm selling my Arai Tour-X helmet which has been great in every aspect for adv riding, but it's just a fraction too small for me, so I'm gonna get a larger one. More than happy with everything it does and doesn't seem to buffet much in the wind.
See linky here...

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/121863-Arai-Tour-X-XD-Size-MED?p=1129716650#post1129716650

[cooneyr]

You mean it's annoying for me since you no longer have it. I've breifly tried on cooneyr's shoei and would be looking at one very closely when the time comes for a replacement. Certainly more comfortable.

LOL - thats what you get for taking hand-me-downs! Thanks Bro ;)

[Crisis management]

Thanks for the Airoh info, I will probably not follow that up now, seeing as a Hornet is $900 new here and I'm a tight arse has anyone fitted a peak to a road helmet?
My XR1000 does everything well except for provide shade into the sun so surely if I get a peak and use an adhesive to fix it on there can't be any degredation of the helmet shell....or am I missing something?

[Night Falcon]

Thanks for the Airoh info, I will probably not follow that up now, seeing as a Hornet is $900 new here and I'm a tight arse has anyone fitted a peak to a road helmet?
My XR1000 does everything well except for provide shade into the sun so surely if I get a peak and use an adhesive to fix it on there can't be any degredation of the helmet shell....or am I missing something?

Let your eyebrows go wild man......then you won't have to doo and mods to ya roadie bucket......:blip:

[dino3310]

Thanks for the Airoh info, I will probably not follow that up now, seeing as a Hornet is $900 new here and I'm a tight arse has anyone fitted a peak to a road helmet?
My XR1000 does everything well except for provide shade into the sun so surely if I get a peak and use an adhesive to fix it on there can't be any degredation of the helmet shell....or am I missing something?

worth a look mate http://www.andystrapz.com/productdetails.php?pid=94&BACK=72

[Box'a'bits]

Thanks for the Airoh info, I will probably not follow that up now, seeing as a Hornet is $900 new here and I'm a tight arse has anyone fitted a peak to a road helmet?
My XR1000 does everything well except for provide shade into the sun so surely if I get a peak and use an adhesive to fix it on there can't be any degredation of the helmet shell....or am I missing something?
Try opening the visor on a helmet with that attached...:doh: Think the helmet in the photo is one where the chin bar lifts

[Transalper]

worth a look mate http://www.andystrapz.com/productdetails.php?pid=94&BACK=72

Timg uses one of those and likes it IIRC.

[NordieBoy]

seeing as a Hornet is $900 new here and I'm a tight arse has anyone fitted a peak to a road helmet?

That's what a Zeus 2100b is :D

[Crisis management]

Thanks for the ideas, I just had a play with the helmet and don't see a reasonable way of making it work and retaining an openable visor, the Andy strapz idea is ok but i quite often ride with visor open at speed so it wouldn't work for me......back to buying the real thing it seems.

[dino3310]

That's what a Zeus 2100b is :D

but only $170

[timg]

Timg uses one of those and likes it IIRC. Yup, the SuperVisor suits me. It's not overly large, doesn't catch the wind, can ride at highway speeds with visor up with minimal effect, and with visor open an inch or so for good ventilation with no effects. I commute into the sun in the morning, and into it AGAIN at the finish of work :( Mine is fitted to a Nolan 102 flip front helmet. Might look a bit dorky but it works well IMHO.

[gav24]

The latest in my quest for a decent dual sport helmet...
I have tried a few of the cheaper brands, HJC and FFM, fit is OK, but there are so many sacrifices in terms of visor shape (distortion and strange reflections:blink:) and opening ability of the visor (ie it doesnt!) :angry:
So I had just about decided to bite the bullet and shell out for an Arai. I have used their Road and MX helmets for years and I always thought they fitted me better than a shoei (Arai head! - is that a condition!:sick:)
I had scanned ebay US, Oz and UK, finally found some in Japan for good money - about $600 shipped, but was still being tight and hanging on to my cash in the hope that something would happen....what?...who knows, lotto win maybe!:gob:
Then Crazy frog appears and has one in the perfect colour and size for me! Yay! :yes::yes::niceone:
Hope it arrives on monday and I will report back on the folly of compromise and only getting what you pay for etc, etc. :bleh:
Or not, if it turns out the same as the HJC!:bye::Oops:

[CrazyFrog]

Happy to help Gav! At the end of the day, I loved the Arai but it was surplus to my needs as my riding has crossed over to the dirt, and with it being a good snug fit, I would get hot too quickly, time for an open helmet and goggles.
You should be happy with it, it's a great lid and serviced it's purpose well, but I couldn't justify keeping it to use 3-4 times a year when I might do a longer road ride on the EXC. The EXC is not really the machine I'd want to do long distance on anyway, I think the seat would cut me in half, but hell, the trail riding has got a whole lot more exciting.:woohoo:

[Monstaman]

I bought a Shoei Hornet coupla weeks back, had a chance to take it out now and I luv it, on Thursday night we weighed it against the Arai, Grex and various others with super digital scales, the Shoei came in 60 grams lighter than the Grex and 120 grams lighter than the Arai.

While weight is not everything it does make a difference while swinging around on your nut all day.

General opinion was that the Shoei Hornet was the better pick (pending head shape of course).

We are now looking for a small Shoei Hornet for Ellen.

[Squiggles]

http://www.onewheeldrive.net/2010/04/14/icon-variant-helmet-baja-review-%E2%80%93-adventurous-as-you-want-to-be/

[Night Falcon]

Got a quote today for black Shoei Hornet for $720.00 new....not quite what I want colour wise....are there better deals around for a Hornet?

[Monstaman]

I paid $204.00 second hand off tardme, lid is in excellent condition, cam with clear and dark visor.

[Night Falcon]

I paid $204.00 second hand off tardme, lid is in excellent condition, cam with clear and dark visor.

Good deal....I got a saved search on tm should one come up for auction.

[Monstaman]

Good deal....I got a saved search on tm should one come up for auction.

Me too, want a small one for my wife cos she love mine so much.

[gav24]

Hi all, said I would post back with feedback on the Arai TourFX lid that I got from Crazy frog - Thanks!
Anyway, my quest is over! A perfect helmet for me!
Lighter than my road arai's
Peak is large enough to stop heaps of sun glare - and mud!
Excellent aerodynamics - no peak grab
Perfect vision - no distortion (even got a tinted visor as well - fantastic for that early am low sun)
Really good ventilation that turns off and on easily
Washable liner
Sooooo comfortable - I love those arai cheeks!
Seems pretty quiet - certainly no whistles. Fantastic with earplugs!
And, best of all, no skulls, flames, lightening flashes, or other power ranger stuff!

I love my arai!!!
It seems that you do get what you pay for in the end...
The search is over....and thanks to Crazy Frog pretty cheap as well, double cool!

[chasio]

Re the Zeus 2100b... Does anyone know who holds decent stock in Auckland? I have tried a few shops and not seen a 2100b among the Zeus helmets on offer.

Also my head fits a Shoei well. How does the 2100b compare to Shoei for shape?

Or if you have a brand new Hornet in small you only want $250 for, please feel free to PM me :)

[dino3310]

brought my Zuess of trademe $170

[wysper]

brought my Zuess of trademe $170

was that new Dino?

[chasio]

I'm after trying on a 2100 or 2100b (or an FFM Matrix for that matter) to get sizing and check the fit. I have a Raid 2 which is a great helmet but I don't want to bang it about too much, so a $200 helmet with a peak will suit me better for ADV use, especially as my talents are limited and I am likely to fall off again.

They're available brand new on Tardme from seller eMoto for $186. This was their response to a question about visors, blanking plates and colours for the 2100b:
A: Sorry but the importer only brings in the Titanium colour or the black, there are smoke visors avail RRp $ 69.00 and as for the blanking plates they are not bringing them in at this stage, hiope this helps.

Cheers - Chasio

[wysper]

cool. I wonder how goggles go over glasses??

[GPS MAN]

Hey Gav...good luck with the helment...

Might serve you well on the TransAM Trail....Ha!!!

When You leaving????

[dino3310]

was that new Dino?

yeah mate from these guys http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Stores/Contact.aspx?member=277990 they good to deal with

[warewolf]

cool. I wonder how goggles go over glasses??Fine if they are over-the-glasses goggles. I've used a pair of Scott OTG for years, they are great with/without glasses (gone back to contacts since I bought them).

Of more concern to me is how the glasses fit with the helmet.

[dino3310]

Of more concern to me is how the glasses fit with the helmet.

sunnys fit well in my zuess, i very rarely ride with out them

[Taz]

On Dino's advice I bought a 2100b from emoto. Very nice road based adv helmet and if delivery from them had been any faster I would have had it before I ordered it. paid by CC one day and it turned up the next morning. That's chch to waiuku faster than I can get stuff from Akld!! Going to try them for other stuff from now on.

[dino3310]

On Dino's advice I bought a 2100b from emoto. Very nice road based adv helmet and if delivery from them had been any faster I would have had it before I ordered it. paid by CC one day and it turned up the next morning. That's chch to waiuku faster than I can get stuff from Akld!! Going to try them for other stuff from now on.

see im not just a pretty face with a hot body:yes:

[Taz]

see im not just a pretty face with a hot body:yes:

And a love of beastiality......... :lol:

[gav24]

Hey Gav...good luck with the helment...

Might serve you well on the TransAM Trail....Ha!!!

When You leaving????

Hmmm, well, thats a big question! Partner Leanne knows about it, told my Dad and bro they should fly out from UK and Abu Dhabi for a boys holiday...
Had a look on Ebay for bikes... Unsure between an old and cheap XR or XL 350/400/500/600/650 or wait for a lotto win and get that tricked out BMW HP2 that I saw. Then again shipping isnt too bad for my DR...
All just ideas, and probably a few years off yet. Unless you are planning to do it again any time soon, then I could be persuaded to tag along...

[CrazyFrog]

Hmmm, well, thats a big question! Partner Leanne knows about it, told my Dad and bro they should fly out from UK and Abu Dhabi for a boys holiday...
Had a look on Ebay for bikes... Unsure between an old and cheap XR or XL 350/400/500/600/650 or wait for a lotto win and get that tricked out BMW HP2 that I saw. Then again shipping isnt too bad for my DR...
All just ideas, and probably a few years off yet. Unless you are planning to do it again any time soon, then I could be persuaded to tag along...

Hey Gav,
If you're serious about the TransAm trail, a workmate of mine did it last year, has all the GPS routes mapped and has a shitload of knowledge about it. He bought a KLR over there and shipped it home after the ride. He loved it, and has some good stories to tell if you want some more info about it, pm me and I can put you in touch with him.

[Eddieb]

Hey Gav,
If you're serious about the TransAm trail, a workmate of mine did it last year, has all the GPS routes mapped and has a shitload of knowledge about it. He bought a KLR over there and shipped it home after the ride. He loved it, and has some good stories to tell if you want some more info about it, pm me and I can put you in touch with him.

Hi CrazyFrog


I'd be interested in seeing the GPS routes also.

[bart]

Hmmm, well, thats a big question! Partner Leanne knows about it, told my Dad and bro they should fly out from UK and Abu Dhabi for a boys holiday...
Had a look on Ebay for bikes... Unsure between an old and cheap XR or XL 350/400/500/600/650 or wait for a lotto win and get that tricked out BMW HP2 that I saw. Then again shipping isnt too bad for my DR...
All just ideas, and probably a few years off yet. Unless you are planning to do it again any time soon, then I could be persuaded to tag along...

Haha. I've been trying to warm the missus up to the idea of me sneaking off for a month to do the TAT. I think I'll have enough browny points by about 2015 (if I'm reeeeeeeeaaaaaallllly good, so no chance). Seems to me to be a sensible BIG trip without having to deal with border crossings/language issues/wars/bribery etc.

[NordieBoy]

Seems to me to be a sensible BIG trip without having to deal with border crossings/language issues/wars/bribery etc.

And that's just to get permission to go.

[Phreaky Phil]

Haha. I've been trying to warm the missus up to the idea of me sneaking off for a month to do the TAT. I think I'll have enough browny points by about 2015 (if I'm reeeeeeeeaaaaaallllly good, so no chance). Seems to me to be a sensible BIG trip without having to deal with border crossings/language issues/wars/bribery etc.
The T.A.T looks like a neat ride. Ive been looking at info and threads on it for years. I guess youve saw the Mobius thread on ADV rider ?

[cromagnon]

The T.A.T looks like a neat ride. Ive been looking at info and threads on it for years. I guess youve saw the Mobius thread on ADV rider ?

Yea the Mobius RR is a very very very very detailed report of the trip but I prefer bigdogadventures more concise RR of the TAT http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147232&page=1.

[chasio]

Well I'll be buggered if I can find a 2100(b) in Auckland, but judging by the fit of some other Zeus helmets I tried, they don't suit a Shoei head. So I'll be saving my pennies for a Hornet, given comments earlier in the thread about visor distortion with the FFM (which would drive me nuts).

FWIW I noticed that the FFM and the Zeus aren't SHARP rated at all... only to discover that neither is the Hornet!

[dino3310]

Yea the Mobius RR is a very very very very detailed report of the trip but I prefer bigdogadventures more concise RR of the TAT http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147232&page=1.

im gonna ride that in my late fifties and i dont think i'll be back, what a magnificant place

[bart]

im gonna ride that in my late fifties and i dont think i'll be back, what a magnificant place

I've got family in Canada I need to catch up with. Thinking about crossing Canada and coming back via the TAT. It'll take a serious amount of coinage. I'll just put this near the top of my wish list for now. The top item is currently a bit more achievable.....a home brew kit. :laugh:

[dino3310]

well mate you got your priorities in the right place

[Eddieb]

Rjays Dakar Helmet $249
•Can be used with or without peak
•Adjustable peak with pull-out tinted visor extender
•Multi air vents including top stabiliser exhaust fins
•Constructed from state of the art advanced poly carbonate thermo allow resin
•3D Removable & Washable Interior Lining
•Australian Standards AS/NZS 1698 & Snell M2005 & Dot Approved

http://www.motomail.co.nz/eStore/Style/RJHEDAKAR.aspx

http://www.motomail.co.nz/Users/motomail.co.nz/Images/1702_300_300.jpg http://www.motomail.co.nz/Users/motomail.co.nz/Images/1701_300_300.jpghttp://www.motomail.co.nz/Users/motomail.co.nz/Images/2459_300_300.jpg

[wysper]

Rjays Dakar Helmet $249
•Can be used with or without peak
•Adjustable peak with pull-out tinted visor extender
•Multi air vents including top stabiliser exhaust fins
•Constructed from state of the art advanced poly carbonate thermo allow resin
•3D Removable & Washable Interior Lining
•Australian Standards AS/NZS 1698 & Snell M2005 & Dot Approved

http://www.motomail.co.nz/eStore/Style/RJHEDAKAR.aspx

http://www.motomail.co.nz/Users/motomail.co.nz/Images/1702_300_300.jpg http://www.motomail.co.nz/Users/motomail.co.nz/Images/1701_300_300.jpghttp://www.motomail.co.nz/Users/motomail.co.nz/Images/2459_300_300.jpg

Hey Eddie.
I haven't read the whole thread, do you wear one of these?
If you do, whats it like?
I have a Shoei Raid II at the moment, and new helmet is on my shopping list.

[Eddieb]

I have a Zeus 2100b which I like the comfort/fit/price but some of the padding came undone after about a year.

I posted this up as I hadn't seen them before.

[tri boy]

Kanny just got an HJC cl-xs from John at Boyds sale for $100.
Peak is adjustable.
Visor on, or mx goggles can be worn.
1600grams. (bit heavy, but for the price, good enough)
Heaps of chin clearance, and comes with spare side plates/screws.
Looks a bit like that R Jays helmet.
Boyds/John rocks.
New boots, pants, gloves, camelback, thermo chin thingy, and rain overjacket, and Helmet for $5hundy.
She sure is kanny:yes:

[wysper]

I was going to go to the sale too, but I really don't have the money to spend. Buggrit. Still, adventure boots and pants are next on my list.

[dino3310]

I was going to go to the sale too, but I really don't have the money to spend. Buggrit. Still, adventure boots and pants are next on my list.

Ditto:( .

[tri boy]

Kanny had been stashing the Boyds gift vouchers I had given her. They could be used in the main shop, and she bought the other items via the distributor sale.

[dino3310]

Boyd gift vouchers, got any left come on mate share the love :lol:


got these on my watchlist http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=298380846&permanent=0

[wysper]

Good spotting. Are your feet really that big! LOL

[dino3310]

not just the feet mate ;)

[wysper]

ahh your hands too then.

[NordieBoy]

got these on my watchlist http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=298380846&permanent=0

Good boots. Nice flexi sole with good grip.
Just not so good for lots of standing on the pegs.

Gotta get mine repaired sometime.

Oops...
Accidentally bid on the size 11's.

Hope he'll remove my bid.
Just got the 12's from him which will be cheaper than fixing mine.

[wysper]

I'll have to keep an eye out and see if he gets in some 9's or 10's

[dino3310]

Good boots. Nice flexi sole with good grip.
Just not so good for lots of standing on the pegs.

Gotta get mine repaired sometime.

Oops...
Accidentally bid on the size 11's.

Hope he'll remove my bid.
Just got the 12's from him which will be cheaper than fixing mine.

does ya bike pants fit over them ok, do the pants ride up when seated or do they over lap still

[NordieBoy]

Overlap no probs but I'd like longer pants too.
I'm just not prepared to go to XXXL around the waist to get the length I want.

[dino3310]

some bugga from nelson hit the buynow before i did:oi-grr:

[Crim]

I can vouch fo the shoei /airoh head thing. tried both and they fit my oversized melon very well. The only other brand that seems ok is FFM. The sizez, e.g. xl vary so much between brands.
I too can vouch for the shoei/airoh head shape - I am, like yourself Woodman, a Shoei / FFM head - so (being the tight bustard that I am) went for a FFM Matrix, wore it today for the first time - A couple of things, peripheral vision seems much improved over my road helmet and air flow is much improved, all in all pleased with it and a steal for under 2 hundy! Only thing that grates is that you can only get it in black (or black/white with skulls)

[wysper]

I too can vouch for the shoei/airoh head shape - I am, like yourself Woodman, a Shoei / FFM head - so (being the tight bustard that I am) went for a FFM Matrix, wore it today for the first time - A couple of things, peripheral vision seems much improved over my road helmet and air flow is much improved, all in all pleased with it and a steal for under 2 hundy! Only thing that grates is that you can only get it in black (or black/white with skulls)

Man you are right about the skulls option :sick:
Might try and find one to try on.

[Taz]

Man you are right about the skulls option :sick:
Might try and find one to try on.

Do they think that all adv riders are kids or something? (I know we act like kids but come on FFM!)

[dino3310]

Overlap no probs but I'd like longer pants too.
I'm just not prepared to go to XXXL around the waist to get the length I want.

turns out they had one pair left :Punk: :woohoo:
211605
first brand new bike boots i ever bought

[wysper]

turns out they had one pair left :Punk: :woohoo:
211605
first brand new bike boots i ever bought

Those look sweet. Good buy. Let me know what you think of them. If you rate them, I will put them on my short list. If there are any left in my size that is.

[NordieBoy]

The first problem you'll have is the top will dig into your shin something fierce.
The second problem is the bottom strap thing is a little short and may fall out occasionally when you undo them.

Once you've got them beaten into shape though they're great :D

A good sole on the buggers and nice to walk in too.
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/20070712%20New%20Boots/slides/20070712-123959.jpg

[wysper]

So what are your tips for beating them into shape?

[NordieBoy]

Just wear them. Mine just arrived this morning and I cab't believe how stiff they are. My old ones are like a pair of adventure slippers in comparison.
I may get my old ones fixed anyway as spares.

My shins are wimpering in dread of breaking them in already :D

[Oscar]

Snow Seal.

Warm them up, apply Snow Seal - it will make them more pliable and improve waterproofing.

[wysper]

I would really like to find a pair that was predominantly leather. With out all this plastic shit all over them. Stiching is a door way for water. Sure the leather boots would be nice if they had some reinforcing round the ankles.

And Oscar, most of these new boots are 60% plastic, hard for snoseal to work on that. (at least the ones I have seen)

[Oscar]

I would really like to find a pair that was predominantly leather. With out all this plastic shit all over them. Stiching is a door way for water. Sure the leather boots would be nice if they had some reinforcing round the ankles.

And Oscar, most of these new boots are 60% plastic, hard for snoseal to work on that. (at least the ones I have seen)


Er - my Gaernes are Leather, with some plastic on the outside.
There is actually no way to make Boots 100% waterproof, but applying Snoseal to the stitching is a start.
My point was that using Snoseal or dubbin (on the inside in necessary) will make them pliable.
ADB Mag used to advocate filling yer MX boots up with cheap cooking oil and leaving them overnight to make them soft and comfy...

[wysper]

I have gaernes at the moment too. Wouldn't buy again. I am on the hunt.

[NordieBoy]

I have gaernes at the moment too. Wouldn't buy again. I am on the hunt.

I love my Gaerne's :D

I've got Gaerne MX, Gaerne Road, Fly Stinger ATV Shorties, Stylmartin Stormy Touring and Oxtar Gortex Adventure boots.

I don't like the Stylmartin Stormys.

[Oscar]

I love my Gaerne's :D

I've got Gaerne MX, Gaerne Road, Fly Stinger ATV Shorties, Stylmartin Stormy Touring and Oxtar Gortex Adventure boots.

I don't like the Stylmartin Stormys.

Me too.
I used to use Axo MX Boots for Adv Riding, but they were awful.
I've had my Gaerne's MX boots for about 7 years and they are really comfortable, even on those 500k's on the gravel days...

[Taz]

ADB Mag used to advocate filling yer MX boots up with cheap cooking oil and leaving them overnight to make them soft and comfy...

Yeah and running V8 vege juice in ya tank :lol:

[bart]

I have gaernes at the moment too. Wouldn't buy again. I am on the hunt.

I have Gaernes. Very comfy. About as waterproof as a fluffy slipper.

My biggest issue is the seam down the inside of the calf. This catches on the footpeg and has caused quite a few, ah, shall we say, 'moments'. I have enough 'moments' without my boots contributing. I'll post a picture later.

[wysper]

Mine a road boots.. but they have leaked like a sieve, the 'waterproof' memebrane constantly gets caught in the zipper, they are ok for comfort, but overall I don't really like them.
Maybe their adventure boots are different.

[thepom]

I,ve got some alpinstars tech and they feel like slabs of concrete,mostly plastic but lots of protection as I learned too late the value of good boots after my give rack crushed both feet on the way to the dustybutt...still limping now.....

[dino3310]

yeah gotta agree, i use road boots(dririder) which are very hot and dry and work boots for the ruff stuff, BUT no longer as the lack of protection just aint worth being a tight arse, had 8 months of physio last year after an off in work boots.
the Dri riders are an awesome dry boot but they only come out for the road from now on.

Howd this turn into a boot thread :blink:

[wysper]

not sure Dino. but bloody useful all the same.

[bart]

This has to be a flaw. :angry:

Oh....and they haven't been cleaned for a while. :mellow:

[Crim]

Howd this turn into a boot thread :blink:

What are boots but not just "upside down helmets for the feet?"

[Oscar]

Mine a road boots.. but they have leaked like a sieve, the 'waterproof' memebrane constantly gets caught in the zipper, they are ok for comfort, but overall I don't really like them.
Maybe their adventure boots are different.

Mine are MX boots.
I wanted protection and comfort (sounds like a condom ad!!). Basically no boot is gonna be 100% waterproof, particularly if yer standing knee deep in a stream dragging someones stalled BMW to safety, but these ones at least stay dry in a storm.

[gav24]

Last posted here in the old days when it was all helmets as far as the eye could see... When I were a lad etc etc.

As for boots and waterproofing. Use MX boots. The end.
When a bike falls on your leg it hurts. 2 broken legs with 6 screws and a pin still remaining (from MX bikes) have taught me that you should always get the best protection for your lower leg.
What about water proofing? I used to use a carrier bag between sock and boot but the sweat makes it hotter and smellier than - well a hot sweaty, smelly thing! Also the bag usually splits so you have a not waterproof, hot, sweaty smelly thing!
Then I found the answer - GoreTex socks!
Problem is I cant remember where I got mine from - It was nearly 10 years ago on the other side of the world. But I'm sure that the interweb thingy will find something... Think they may have come from a hiking/outdoor shop?

[bart]

Last posted here in the old days when it was all helmets as far as the eye could see... When I were a lad etc etc.

As for boots and waterproofing. Use MX boots. The end.
When a bike falls on your leg it hurts. 2 broken legs with 6 screws and a pin still remaining (from MX bikes) have taught me that you should always get the best protection for your lower leg.
What about water proofing? I used to use a carrier bag between sock and boot but the sweat makes it hotter and smellier than - well a hot sweaty, smelly thing! Also the bag usually splits so you have a not waterproof, hot, sweaty smelly thing!
Then I found the answer - GoreTex socks!
Problem is I cant remember where I got mine from - It was nearly 10 years ago on the other side of the world. But I'm sure that the interweb thingy will find something... Think they may have come from a hiking/outdoor shop?

Oh well, it's still a good topic. I agree about the MX boot thing. Going over the bars (and banging my shins on the way) convinced me.

Big thick woolly work socks for me. I gave up trying to keep my feet dry years ago.

[gav24]

Oh well, it's still a good topic. I agree about the MX boot thing. Going over the bars (and banging my shins on the way) convinced me.

Big thick woolly work socks for me. I gave up trying to keep my feet dry years ago.

Yep, same. The gore tex socks only work til the water flows over the tops:bye:
ther're a good solution for riding easy stuff in the rain, but throw in a water splash and the best boots in the world become expensive water carriers. :shit:
So I usually just dont bother eitherand get wet feet like Bart:yes:

[wysper]

I ended up getting a pair of Diadora Mud boots from Boyds (run out special - down to 249 from 499)
Much better for standing on the pegs. Have a bit of grip on the sole. Not sure of waterproofness but am going to snoseal the bejusus out of them this weekend.

(also got some Dririder Rally X trousers!) I almost look like an adventure rider now :third:

Still ride like a kid on a tricycle though!

[Waihou Thumper]

These look like quite good helmets, thing is once again NZ only gets two boring colours...
I like the olive green and the white one...
The ADV set up looks good and there is a Youtube video of the setting up and changing helmet for different styles of riding...
I see one on Trade Me Emoto has one, looks like they are bringing them in $480 price range I guess...
Price ordered from Germany in the colour you want is good, less VAT of course as well....
:gob:
213245


http://www.hjc-europe.eu/index.php?id=102&L=7


http://www.facebook.com/video/editvideo.php?v=133198870049540#!/video/video.php?v=133198870049540&ref=notif&notif_t=video_processed

[Oscar]

These look like quite good helmets, thing is once again NZ only gets two boring colours...
I like the olive green and the white one...
The ADV set up looks good and there is a Youtube video of the setting up and changing helmet for different styles of riding...
I see one on Trade Me Emoto has one, looks like they are bringing them in $480 price range I guess...
Price ordered from Germany in the colour you want is good, less VAT of course as well....
:gob:
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http://www.hjc-europe.eu/index.php?id=102&L=7


http://www.facebook.com/video/editvideo.php?v=133198870049540#!/video/video.php?v=133198870049540&ref=notif&notif_t=video_processed

Be careful with European sizing.
I tried on helmets in Spain and Italy that were the same model and size that I have at home and they didn't fit.

[Waihou Thumper]

Being a Pom, my dome will be the European head...:yes:
You are right though and I have thought about this....BUT, there is also some 'Urban Myth' thing about this that might need more explaining. I don't know whether it is manufacturers sizing or country sizing, e.g Japan L or more like a M here? I have a L Arai from UK and it fits like an XL here, so correct in that regard.....
My HJC from the USA is a tight fit for a XL, my Shoei XL from NZ is huge....:yes:
I give up...:gob:
I cannot understand it really, surely as the HJC in this particular instance comes from Europe in the first place. they don't go making a separate batch for Kiwi, Aussie US heads?

[Oscar]

Being a Pom, my dome will be the European head...:yes:
You are right though and I have thought about this....BUT, there is also some 'Urban Myth' thing about this that might need more explaining. I don't know whether it is manufacturers sizing or country sizing, e.g Japan L or more like a M here? I have a L Arai from UK and it fits like an XL here, so correct in that regard.....
My HJC from the USA is a tight fit for a XL, my Shoei XL from NZ is huge....:yes:
I give up...:gob:
I cannot understand it really, surely as the HJC in this particular instance comes from Europe in the first place. they don't go making a separate batch for Kiwi, Aussie US heads?


Nope.
I'm a pom too, and I tried the identical helmets I owned at home when I was in Andorra (a Shoei XR1000 and a Arai Tour-X) in the correct size, and they didn't fit.

[Waihou Thumper]

Nope.
I'm a pom too, and I tried the identical helmets I owned at home when I was in Andorra (a Shoei XR1000 and a Arai Tour-X) in the correct size, and they didn't fit.

aint it weird then....It seems we have a different market here in the Sth Hemisphere...
I haven't ordered but have bought helmets in the past from different countries, namely Japan, USA and UK. The only issue I found was with the Arai from Japan - tight as a nuns .... it was! :shit:

[Taz]

These look like quite good helmets, thing is once again NZ only gets two boring colours...
I like the olive green and the white one...
The ADV set up looks good and there is a Youtube video of the setting up and changing helmet for different styles of riding...
I see one on Trade Me Emoto has one, looks like they are bringing them in $480 price range I guess...
Price ordered from Germany in the colour you want is good, less VAT of course as well....
:gob:
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http://www.hjc-europe.eu/index.php?id=102&L=7


http://www.facebook.com/video/editvideo.php?v=133198870049540#!/video/video.php?v=133198870049540&ref=notif&notif_t=video_processed

NZ gets three colours. White, Black and silver. Tried one on at the speed show. I was Impressed. Light too. $499.95 retail for 7 helmets in one. I want one.

[Waihou Thumper]

NZ gets three colours. White, Black and silver. Tried one on at the speed show. I was Impressed. Light too. $499.95 retail for 7 helmets in one. I want one.

Thanks for the feedback. I have found a site in Deutschland...:shit: Cheap shipping, bout $30 Kiwi..DHL.
The price is $178 Euro including the shipping AND you can have any frikkin colour! :yes: Olive Green Ivory or whatever.....Plus the video on the specs etc makes it an even better lid to get!

[Crim]

Thanks for the feedback. I have found a site in Deutschland...:shit: Cheap shipping, bout $30 Kiwi..DHL.
The price is $178 Euro including the shipping AND you can have any frikkin colour! :yes: Olive Green Ivory or whatever.....Plus the video on the specs etc makes it an even better lid to get!


Are you going to invest in one? If you do, presume you'll try one on locally and then order accordingly, would be really interested on whether there is a discrepency in sizing and feedback after a couple of rides - they do look the ducks nuts!

[Waihou Thumper]

Are you going to invest in one? If you do, presume you'll try one on locally and then order accordingly, would be really interested on whether there is a discrepency in sizing and feedback after a couple of rides - they do look the ducks nuts!

Either a L or XL.....I am sort of in the middle with them all....

[Crim]

Either a L or XL.....I am sort of in the middle with them all....

You lucky bugga! I am a XXL in some, XXXL if they've got 'em in some and others don't even get close! I like to fink cos it's full of braynes but somewho fink nut

[dino3310]

You lucky bugga! I am a XXL in some, XXXL if they've got 'em in some and others don't even get close! I like to fink cos it's full of braynes but somewho fink nut

XXXL:gob: fark bro you got a fat head

[wysper]

[I][COLOR=DarkOrange]These look like quite good helmets, thing is once again NZ only gets two boring colours...

:gob:


I'm a bit late on this, but they do look awesome. I was a bit skeptical on the 7 in 1 thing, but they seem pretty well regarded.

Looking at the exchange it should be more like 4 hundy. I know the conversion works out to about 320 ish but rarely does it work that way in retail in NZ.

I would pay 400 but not 500 I don't think.

Does anyone know if a bike shops have them on their shelves?

[Waihou Thumper]

Looking at the exchange it should be more like 4 hundy. I know the conversion works out to about 320 ish but rarely does it work that way in retail in NZ.

I would pay 400 but not 500 I don't think.



See my first post...http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Helmets-clothing-footwear/Helmets/auction-305567121.htm
This is why I am looking elsewhere....I want the olive green one....Matt colour.

[wysper]

See my first post...http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Helmets-clothing-footwear/Helmets/auction-305567121.htm
This is why I am looking elsewhere....I want the olive green one....Matt colour.

I work for an importer (not bike related) did a bit of number crunching - 480 isn't far off what the retail would be here if imported. Just working off us and eu retails, factoring in taxes and freight and the hidden costs of importing and they are pretty close.

Boydies has some in so I am going to have a look this week.

Will keep you posted.

[dino3310]

you fullas got to much $$$

[wysper]

you fullas got to much $$$

Sadly I don't, probably couldn't afford it. But will be nice to have a look.

I figure my head is worth a bit :innocent:

[Shewolf]

I got one of these from the Speedshow this weekend - $499 - and have been using since in a range of (typical) Dorkland weather ie rain, wind, sun....sometimes all at the same time.

Happy with the noise level - more wind about the face but comparable to my old Shoei (Airoh was hideous for noise). Will look at getting a windjammer to reduce airflow over the winter.

The chin piece feels a bit flimsy - but I like the adaptability of using it any which way. Getting used to the visor not being able to lift as high with the peak on - but its a minor inconvenience.

I like the metallic silver!

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af144/Shewolfnz/Bikes/Misc/is-multi.jpg

[wysper]

Thanks for that Shewolf.

The flimsyness of a removable chin guard worries me too.

Dont like the thought of having my face smashed in... course it might look better that way :love:

[dino3310]

Thanks for that Shewolf.

The flimsyness of a removable chin guard worries me too.

Dont like the thought of having my face smashed in... course it might look better that way :love:

thsts what puts me off these and the flip up face ones

[NordieBoy]

thsts what puts me off these and the flip up face ones

Yep. Why be uncertain. Get an open-face.

[Oscar]

Yep. Why be uncertain. Get an open-face.

Yeah, ya they got some cool x-ray machines in the maxillofacial dept.
I got a 180 degree one of my boat race here somewheres...

[wysper]

Had a look at the HJC this weekend. Nice enough looking helmet. But I don't like the flimsyness of the front guard. And realistically I would hardly ever use any of the configurations anyway.
It would stay in one form, so there would be no point spending the dollars on it. IMO.

So I guess I will look for a reasonable sub 200 adv helmet.

[NordieBoy]

I'm one that would use all the configurations but I'm buggered if I'll spend that much on a helmet.

On a camera or an iPod maybe but not a helmet.

[wysper]

@Nordie, what would you spend on that particular helmet? Just as a matter of interest, what would you think a good price would be?

[NordieBoy]

Dunno. I've never spent more than $200 on a helmet.

My main concern would be how it handles the wind and the weight of it.

[dino3310]

Yep. Why be uncertain. Get an open-face.

uummmm nnnaaaa, i remember a photo i saw on rotten.com of a dude with the end of his jaw missing after a face plant on the seal:sick:

[Monstaman]

uummmm nnnaaaa, i remember a photo i saw on rotten.com of a dude with the end of his jaw missing after a face plant on the seal:sick:

Yeah I saw that too, hot and sticky under a full face helmet still better than going through missing half ya face, open face for trials is fine but anything faster I want protection .... staring to sound old now :shit:

[Oscar]

uummmm nnnaaaa, i remember a photo i saw on rotten.com of a dude with the end of his jaw missing after a face plant on the seal:sick:

That picture (if it's the one I'm thinking of) was circulated around the internet with the story about an open faced helmet. It is actually the result of some idiots fooling around with detonators.

[NordieBoy]

That picture (if it's the one I'm thinking of) was circulated around the internet with the story about an open faced helmet. It is actually the result of some idiots fooling around with detonators.

That the one where they were holding the det in their teeth?

[Oscar]

That the one where they were holding the det in their teeth?

Yup.
Darwin in action.

[Padmei]

Yup.
Darwin in action.

What would you expect with Aussies aye!

[Shewolf]

I got windjammer thing before taking it away to fog, ice and sleet on the weekend and it made a heap of difference in comfort and noise reduction.

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af144/Shewolfnz/Trips/2010%20MMMM%20Ride/DSCN0695.jpg

Having to wear the visor up because it just iced up was a pain with the little vent thing in the visual field, I wished I'd taken the off-road parts and goggles as mud etc was also thrown in....but for overlanding...who'd wanna carry their visor around with them that'd be a right pain.

[Taz]

That was my only gripe with the hjc. (that the visor doesn't open ehough to get it out of your field of vision)

[Waihou Thumper]

After much debate and umming and aahing, I bit the bullet and dished out some dollars for a Airoh S4. I searched around and I saw that the price was $499 here in New Zealand. I had a little search on the net and found a store that I wish I hadn't...:shit: OMFG!!
The prices are unbelievable and what is even better is the shipping prices!
So....here is the Gist!
I got the Airoh S4, same size as my other old Arai 6 year plus lid, XL, WITH a new spare visor - Dark smoke for the summer...Landed here in NZ for $325...:yes:
It is white - that colour is not available here and the shipping price was only $30 NZD with DHL. My card has been charged and it was $325 all up. :)


217011
If you want to take a look at the site here is the address.....BUT, be prepared to lighten your wallet a little as the deals on the adventure riding clothing is superb!! :gob:
Not only do you get the 19% off VAT, some of the stuff is reduced even more due to being on sale....Have fun shoppers...:)

[Peril]

So excited you forgot to put the web address in eh :Oops:

[Eddieb]

Try http://www.fc-moto.de

[Waihou Thumper]

So excited you forgot to put the web address in eh :Oops:

Sorry bout that haha....Geez, it was early afterall...
Yep, that's the one Eddie, you know...:)

https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/en_GB/?ViewObjectID=2587640

[Waihou Thumper]

Try http://www.fc-moto.de

Above, as this takes you straight to the par englais version..:)

[keenas]

Bugger me, ive been lookin for a white Aroh s4 and came to the comclusion I would have to import one. Just need to get the right size. How long was the delivery time?....... and the other stuff on that web site is pretty coool too. Think the visa might get a hiding here.:

[paturoa]

I got one of these this arvo, but be aware there is a serious flaw and I'll be going back to the shop tomorrow to get a replacement peak.

The peak is held on with 2 screws on each side. However there is a gap under the rear screw and when its screwed in it just cracks the peak by where the red arrow is - DUH (the cracks were already there as it was the shelf / demo helmet and someone had already screwed it in too far)

I've done a quick fix and cut some tubing to make up a big fat washer to screw down snugly on without munting the peak.

There is another less serious issue where the peak has 2 height settings. On the lower height with the visor up it touches the bottom of the peak and would quickly scratch the visor right on the eye line, with the wind making everything flex - double duh!

The good points are price, one of the best helmets I've every had with my glasses on (has cutouts in just the right places), good ventilation and extendable peak that I can put some black tape on for sun strike.

Edit: I was just weighing it and it was 1.85kg compared to my FFM M9 old lid which was 1.55kg; when I noticed that that serveral of the plastic bits are IDENTICAL to the FFM helmet, including the vent on the top, the rear vent, a plastic moulding at the rear base, strap and fittings, lining materials and removable lining clips and hooks! Got me a new rjayffm helmet!

[Tony W]

Bought another ZEUS 2100B today,
(my old black one had been down the road a few times....with my head in it.)
Only $155 from my local dealer.
I have been pleased with the Zeus, and really can't fault it.
.....a bit pricey though.......:blink:

[Padmei]

Did you see on that de. website the fighter helmets? Surely they'd only be for jet fighters? People don't really wear them on motorcycles do they? I know I joke about my fliplid being a bit Top Gunny but jiminy crickets...

[Eddieb]

I got windjammer thing before taking it away to fog, ice and sleet on the weekend and it made a heap of difference in comfort and noise reduction.

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af144/Shewolfnz/Trips/2010%20MMMM%20Ride/DSCN0695.jpg

Having to wear the visor up because it just iced up was a pain with the little vent thing in the visual field, I wished I'd taken the off-road parts and goggles as mud etc was also thrown in....but for overlanding...who'd wanna carry their visor around with them that'd be a right pain.


So you've had this for a while now, what do you think of it? does it make getting the helmet on and off any different?

How much was it and where did you get it from?

[paturoa]

I used it for my recent trip around oz (15,500 km over 4 weeks and about 600 km per day so a good amount of riding) and I'd rate it 8 out of 10:

Fit and comfort - excellent. I'm caucasian with a round head and I never had any pressure points or discomfort even with a full days riding.

Noise - its a medium noisy helmet which you'd expect with the strap location and a peak.

Peak / Sun shade - the base design with the extendable peak is excellent but the implementation is poor. The extension piece is smoked plastic so still lets the sun through. So I modded it with some black duct tape and then it was excellent. I'd be riding into the setting sun with full visibility and my buddies were really struggling with sun glare off their conventional road helmets. They also were using a lot of suntan lotion up north on their faces and I didn't need any.

Finish and build quality - very good, nothing fell off and no loose threads or anything.

Breakability - poor they've used brittle plastic in a lot of places. The peak extension and mount are made of brittle plastic and if you dropped it on the peak (or did a face plant) it would likely break. Right at the front of the visor is a nipple that clicks into a clip in the helmet body itself to keep the visor firmly closed, this (clip in helmet) broke within a week.

Design - overall very good except the screws on the side of the peak as per earlier above post.

Riding at high speed - I was pleasantly surprised, there was little wind push except if I turned my head sideways.

Side wind - poor - a strong side wind realy pushes the helmet around.

Rain - good for keeping the rain out but the droplets stay on the visor for a long time after the rain stops.

Weight - poor its one of the heaviest helmets around at 1.8 kg.

Fogging up - good - it never fogged the visor (the other guys were having fogging probs so I had something to compare)

Ventilation - OK - the vent on the top looks good but does bugger all. I forgot to close it in the rain but didn't get wet!

Cold weather - not realy sure, the coldest we travelled was only 8 degrees but that isnet realy cold enought to tell.

Camelbak room - I didn't have any problems with mine as there is plenty of room between my chin and the helmet chin (I've got a normal chin!)

I'd buy another one tomorrow as even with the faults at a quarter of the price of the more expensive helmets, who cares.

If they changed to less brittle plastic and put some spacers in the peak mount it would be the best buy on the market.

Cheers ears

[XF650]

Great report on the Rjays Adv helmet.
I'm looking to replace my (munted) Zeus & looking at options. It will be a good comparison, I reckon.
Ideally I would like an integrated sun visor but only version of that, that I can buy without importing, is the HJC IS-Multi. However there are very mixed reviews on that lid.

[dino3310]

So you've had this for a while now, what do you think of it? does it make getting the helmet on and off any different?

How much was it and where did you get it from?


:corn::corn::corn:

[Eddieb]

:corn::corn::corn:

I see they are on Trade me for $35 : http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=378835833

[XF650]

New Rjays helmet arrived just in time for weekends ride, ex Motomail via local dealer @ $269.00. This is to replace my "grazed" Zeus, bought new for $199. Both these helmets are an improvement on my first "true" Adv helmet, a Nolan Grex RD1. I hate glare, hence preference for helmets with an adjustable peak.
The reason I buy Adv helmets at the budget end of the market is simply because I gark them and as long as they meet the safety standards then I figure it's better to just replace them as required, without worries of having to discard a more expensive helmet.
The ride included norwest wind & dust, cold fog & rain, on a mix of gravel, dirt roads & seal, night & day.
Size & fit
My Zeus is a nice snug Medium. However the Rjays M was just too tight so had to get a Large. The Rjays also has a tighter (oval) base spread than the Zeus (roundish) shape.
Chin strap buckle
Zeus has easy button type release but the adjuster slips. Rjays has double D type but it's too far to the side & fiddly to get at.
Vision
The Rjays has amazing peripheral vision and can easily fit goggles - the Zeus can't.
Venting
The Rjays has the better top vent. Both have good chin bar / face vents, however the Rjays sits lower.
Visor & fogging
No distortion in either visor. The Zeus has more pronounced indents for partial opening. Rjays visor was worse for fogging, probably because it's larger & lower, so more affected by breath.
Peak
Both adjustable & good for low winter sun when adjusted down. Rjays also has benifit of a peak extender, which I found very useful. However Zeus peak is less effected by cross wind than Rjays.
Noise
Zeus helmet is much quieter of the two, possibly helped by thicker padding. The Rjays has an irritating noise from side of visor, possibly from gap for goggle strap. I will look at filling this gap.
Padding
Both have removable padding, Rjays is anti-bacterial. Zeus is thicker & warmer, Rjays thinner & cooler. Sunglasses fit better in the Dakar.
Conclusion
Both these helmets have been on the market for a couple of years now. Basically the main difference is the Zeus is a road helmet with peak added (& looks like it too), while the Rjays is an enduro helmet with a visor added (& looks better).
So far I'd say the Zeus might be the better winter Adv helmet while the Rjays would be the better summer adv lid. Time will tell.....
Pic's of the Rjay's, Zeus & Grex.

[clint640]

Good work Struan, always great to have a no bullshit gear review. How was the visor sealing on the RJays? Some of the cheaper adv helmets I've seen had quite poor fit there.

Cheers
Clint

[XF650]

Good work Struan, always great to have a no bullshit gear review. How was the visor sealing on the RJays? Some of the cheaper adv helmets I've seen had quite poor fit there.

Cheers
Clint

The Dakar visor didn't leak in the rain but it is noisier than the Zeus. I could reduce the noise while riding by pushing in the visor sides, just under the pivots. Hence my assumption there is some tolerence there for goggle straps.
Haven't compared them to a top end helmet, sorry.

[clint640]

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Haven't compared them to a top end helmet, sorry.

No worries, I'm shopping down the cheap end too :yes: If only a shop within 200km stocked any adv helmets...

I once had an old Kiwi road helmet that I improved the quietness of by about 200% with the application of a few layers of duct tape under the edges of the visor.

Cheers
Clint

[Taz]

I like my Zeus as a good road/adventure helmet. Only improvement would be double D rings as I'm not a fan of clips.

[NordieBoy]

I like my Zeus as a good road/adventure helmet. Only improvement would be double D rings as I'm not a fan of clips.

And half the weight?

[888]

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I've picked up the relatively new FFM matrix helmet, returned the first one as my usual XXL was a bit too big. The XL is a good, snug fit. Huge ventilation, I can't see the visor ever fogging, unless I decide to smoke while riding. Great field of view, and the visor isn't noticeable until just under 100K. I think there might be some distortion when looking through the visor, but I haven't spent enough time to be sure. Spent $200 bucks and got a tinted visor thrown in. Double D rings and I can fit goggles with the visor right up. The skull graphics are either really cool, or slighty embarrasing, but I wanted a white helmet so I'll deal with it.

[Eddieb]

The skull graphics are either really cool, or slighty embarrasing, but I wanted a white helmet so I'll deal with it.

Those Skull graphics are definately aimed at a portion of the market that think wearing your baseball cap backwards and your jeans around your knees is the height of good fashion.

[Crim]

Those Skull graphics are definately aimed at a portion of the market that think wearing your baseball cap backwards and your jeans around your knees is the height of good fashion.

Sounding old Eddie - but have to agree - I bought a black one and spray painted it silver - I know it's mine now cos it has got my finger prints on it :Oops:

[888]

hold on a sec, I wear my baseball cap backwards when I'm crawling through the bush pig hunting....I might have to try the pants thing as well.:lol::lol: The only mod I will try with this helmet is one of those Sunax visors, they look like a fantastic bit of kit.

[JATZ]

hold on a sec, I wear my baseball cap backwards when I'm crawling through the bush pig hunting....I might have to try the pants thing as well.:lol::lol:

Chasing pigs with your pants half down is probly not such a good look :nya:

Although I have proof you Waikato boys enjoy chasing animals with your pants down, aye Dino :msn-wink:

[dino3310]

Chasing pigs with your pants half down is probly not such a good look :nya:

Although I have proof you Waikato boys enjoy chasing animals with your pants down, aye Dino :msn-wink:

aye what where who naaa not me mate:whistle:

[dino3310]

Those Skull graphics are definately aimed at a portion of the market that think wearing your baseball cap backwards and your jeans around your knees is the height of good fashion.

i was gonna get one for a summer helmet this year... gotta look cool with all my bro's G

[888]

Finally took the "uber-kool skull graphic" helmet out for a proper test ride, and I am absoulutey amazed at how much better the field of view is (over my last helmet, FFM Tourpro). I cannot see myself ever going back to a helmet with less peripheral vision- unless I was doing a track day and I needed a proper race style helmet. There is much more air noise, so I will definately be wearing ear plugs on the longer rides. On cold days I will also need to get some sort of lower face protec as the airflow is almost like riding with an open face helmet. Their is no distortion through the lexan sheild, and the visor does help in blocking late avo sun, but it depends on how low the sun is...of course. For the fashion concious rider the skulls could be an issue, but the vastly improved field of view, comfort, and better air flow make for a really good helmet. You could always spray paint the helmet to suit your particular age group? :lol::lol:

[GSers]

Finally took the "uber-kool skull graphic" helmet out for a proper test ride, and I am absoulutey amazed at how much better the field of view is (over my last helmet, FFM Tourpro). I cannot see myself ever going back to a helmet with less peripheral vision- unless I was doing a track day and I needed a proper race style helmet. There is much more air noise, so I will definately be wearing ear plugs on the longer rides. On cold days I will also need to get some sort of lower face protec as the airflow is almost like riding with an open face helmet. Their is no distortion through the lexan sheild, and the visor does help in blocking late avo sun, but it depends on how low the sun is...of course. For the fashion concious rider the skulls could be an issue, but the vastly improved field of view, comfort, and better air flow make for a really good helmet. You could always spray paint the helmet to suit your particular age group? :lol::lol:

Just carry some Duck Tape with you and cover the front vent when it is cold or raining dont forget the ones in the top of the helmet as well. horses for courses of course my opinion is they are very noisy and get caught in cross winds at open road speeds wouldn't wear mine again on long trips after 700kms you wish you were wearing something else.
GSers

[888]

I did notice that when I hit 100kph and over the drag from the visor became noticeable, but it would appear that I can remove the visor. Luckily the "mighty ttr" doesn't like running above 100kph for extended periods so, for the moment, I should be alright. This may all change if I trade up to a DR650 next week, I'll have to do some sort of mod on the visor then.

[nic]

This may all change if I trade up to a DR650 next week, I'll have to do some sort of mod on the visor then.

and where is the TTR going? How tall is the seat height?

Oh (to stay on topic) - I just got a Shoei Hornet DS (in white) It was expensive ($799) but I love it.

[888]

The TTR (2009 w/9k's on it) is either going to be traded in against the DR, or I'll put in the ol' trade me. Seat height is standard (I know, that's not an answer!) I haven't adjusted it.

[clint640]

After much debate and umming and aahing, I bit the bullet and dished out some dollars for a Airoh S4. ]

Me too, tried on Al's one the other day & his size M was a good fit, so off to fc-moto.de, allegedy NZ$261 delivered with the current fx rate. That seemed far more acceptable than the NZ RRP of $543 :yes: Will let you know how long it takes to turn up.

Cheers
Clint

[Eddieb]

There's a couple of new helmets at the cheaper end of the range that have come out recently in Aus.

The RXT Rallye at $179au

https://www.thehelmetwarehouse.com.au/store.php?crn=539&rn=3383&action=show_detail

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and the THH TX26, which I think is also sold branded as the FLY TREKKER at $199au.

http://www.thh-helmet.com/tx26.html
https://www.thehelmetwarehouse.com.au/store.php?crn=544&rn=3529&action=show_detail

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[NordieBoy]

The RXT Rallye is an FFM Matrix ($195nz) in drag.

[Squiggles]

FLY TREKKER

Anyone know if there is a New Zealand stockist for these?

[Crim]

Anyone know if there is a New Zealand stockist for these?

yeah they look pretty good :yes: