WHEN do they say the proposed increases happen?

[FROSTY]

Hey folks -worst case senario WHEN would you say the levvy increases will take effect if nothing further happens?
-My thinking here is that if its say 2011 it comes into effect we make it VERY clear that national has just lost the votes that bikers are able to cast.
maybee its just the 30000 accsaysitis --or maybeeits the 100000 we say it is ---either way thats a reasonable chunk of the voting population to loose

[Pedrostt500]

1st June 2010 is my understanding

[Mully]

1st June 2010 is my understanding

Yup.

The cynic in me suggests it's far enough away from the next election for those smelly bikers to have forgotten.

[sunhuntin]

1st June 2010 is my understanding

thats what i understood as well.

[Laxi]

dont forget, there'll be a few pissed of cagers and a lot of employers that arn't gonna be happy about paying more

[Mom]

Yup.

The cynic in me suggests it's far enough away from the next election for those smelly bikers to have forgotten.

With the greatest of respect....

FUCK OFF! :love:

Some of us have the longest memories known to man :yes:

[StoneY]

I say we BIKEOI II and soon!

A weekend in Jan/Feb, maybe even March matters not....but must be within a few months....and I want 15,000 at this one!

Include all the other groups, not just us!
Lets GO!

[NighthawkNZ]

1st June 2010 is my understanding

Think that is correct so I will be maxing out on the my rego couple of weeks before the increase... then in 2011 will see what happens

[MSTRS]

I say we BIKEOI II and soon!

A weekend in Jan/Feb, maybe even March matters not....but must be within a few months....and I want 15,000 at this one!

Include all the other groups, not just us!
Lets GO!


The transport industry.
Rape victims (therell be more than you think).
Even those dirty Commies. Ixion will think he's died and gone to (wherever commies go).

[Kiwi Graham]

I say we BIKEOI II and soon!

A weekend in Jan/Feb, maybe even March matters not....but must be within a few months....and I want 15,000 at this one!

Include all the other groups, not just us!
Lets GO!

Yep, lets do it again only bigger. I'll sort my shit out and get down there myself this time and I bet there's a whole heap of other bikers that will make the effort this time that just couldnt last time.

If he thinks we are going to simply accept this he's got to be delusional.

[Mully]

With the greatest of respect....

FUCK OFF! :love:

Some of us have the longest memories known to man :yes:

Sorry, meant to say: The cynic in me suggests that the Gummint thinks it's far enough away from the next election for those smelly bikers to have forgotten.

You sweet talker, you.

[dogsnbikes]

1st June 2010 is my understanding

That was my understanding at first.. and then was told the start of the new finacial year 2010 01/04/10:rofl:....but until its passed we would only be guessing,and they want to get this over and done with,within the next few months

[Pedrostt500]

I say we BIKEOI II and soon!

A weekend in Jan/Feb, maybe even March matters not....but must be within a few months....and I want 15,000 at this one!

Include all the other groups, not just us!
Lets GO!

Well hang on no good going if no ones going to be there, how about a friday or a monday, the out of towners can travel down on a weekend or back on a weekend, also what is the first date that Parliment sits in the New year, it should be that week. 15000 lets get 20000 + other affected Groups.

[Laxi]

I say we BIKEOI II and soon!

A weekend in Jan/Feb, maybe even March matters not....but must be within a few months....and I want 15,000 at this one!

Include all the other groups, not just us!
Lets GO!

+1 for that, dont let the farkers think we'll just go away, this time though screw polite

[Pedrostt500]

That was my understanding at first.. and then was told the start of the new finacial year 2010 01/04/10:rofl:....but until its passed we would only be guessing,and they want to get this over and done with,within the next few months

The Earners Levey starts 1st April 2010, the Motor Vechicle Levey is 1st June 2010.

[MadDuck]

I say we BIKEOI II and soon!

A weekend in Jan/Feb, maybe even March matters not....but must be within a few months....and I want 15,000 at this one!

Include all the other groups, not just us!
Lets GO!

Count me in! I am happy to continue on the money side of things if needed or anywhere else.

[Nasty]

That was my understanding at first.. and then was told the start of the new finacial year 2010 01/04/10:rofl:....but until its passed we would only be guessing,and they want to get this over and done with,within the next few months

Registration periods for change have always been 1 July previously and I am not sure that they are gonna change that.

[Gummie]

same here couldnt make first one but would make the next working or not.
we need to do the second bigger or they will think we are starting to keel over. well not here i going to all i can.
just installed air horn so can MAKE SOME NOISE:Oi:

[blossomsowner]

..............went to the big bikoi.......it rocked. Except that the pollies didn't listen. keen for another one.

Are the big unions interested in this levy thing e.g EPMU?
what about employer groups?

[klingon]

Well hang on no good going if no ones going to be there, how about a friday or a monday, the out of towners can travel down on a weekend or back on a weekend, also what is the first date that Parliment sits in the New year, it should be that week. 15000 lets get 20000 + other affected Groups.

In sitting weeks the politicians are only in Wellington on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. There first sitting week back after the summer recess will probably be in early/mid Feb.

I think we should start planning now, so people can save up a day or two of annual leave to make sure they can be there. Early Feb is likely to be lovely weather for a ride. :D

[wysper]

I say we BIKEOI II and soon!

A weekend in Jan/Feb, maybe even March matters not....but must be within a few months....and I want 15,000 at this one!

Include all the other groups, not just us!
Lets GO!

That would be good, even the car rego's are going up a fair whack. Not as much as bikes but still effects everyone really.

Would be good if we could unite with other groups... are there employer groups annoyed about the increases? Most of them would be national voters wouldn't they?

[sunhuntin]

i will be there working or not... just tell me the dates! :Punk:

how would we go about getting the other affected groups on side? like, the rape victims, the tourism peoples etc.

[sv58]

Does anyone know when the levy is meant to actually increase?

[flyingcrocodile46]

Does anyone know when the levy is meant to actually increase?

I believe that it "was meant" to increase before xmas but things got bogged down. :laugh:

[FJRider]

Its only got to ... "reccomendations to the Minister" at this stage ...

[AllanB]

Nick Smith and other honourable members decide what the increase will be after considering all recommendations from ACC and other interested parties on their return from Xmas holidays in February I think.

Increase will be effective April 1 I believe.

Please correct if I am wrong.

Note that it will be the Government that decides and implements any increases, ACC makes it's recommencations every year. Just so happens this year they picked on Motorcycles.

Insert your favourite swear word now to describe them, then pen a letter to Nick and sign it in blood.

[sv58]

Nick Smith and other honourable members decide what the increase will be after considering all recommendations from ACC and other interested parties on their return from Xmas holidays in February I think.

Increase will be effective April 1 I believe.

Please correct if I am wrong.

Note that it will be the Government that decides and implements any increases, ACC makes it's recommencations every year. Just so happens this year they picked on Motorcycles.

Insert your favourite swear word now to describe them, then pen a letter to Nick and sign it in blood.

Right so how do the submissions even come into it? Will they even have an effect?

[AllanB]

Right so how do the submissions even come into it? Will they even have an effect?

Well the first lot were for the ACC chaps who gave us about 4 weeks to make submissions, then they pretty much ignored them all when making their recommendations to the Government (lowered it by $50 or something insulting).

The pressure is now to be applied to our honorable members, as far as I know they don't have a submission process but it is free to post a letter to Ministers at The Beehive and should be encouraged.

[gunrunner]

But isnt the 600cc+ bikes going up to $421 pa next year before the $750 one .

[yachtie10]

No all motor vehicle levies go up on 1st july

[98tls]

Wish they would hurry up,thats the date i no longer bother registering my bikes.

[gunrunner]

No all motor vehicle levies go up on 1st july

So we all re rego our bikes the day before for a year then .....

[yachtie10]

So we all re rego our bikes the day before for a year then .....

Have a bad feeling they will pro rata the rises once they are set but i dont know this for a fact

[twotyred]

Yup.

The cynic in me suggests it's far enough away from the next election for those smelly bikers to have forgotten.

agreed,this is why they are getting it out of the way now,they understand that the sheep have very short memories.

[gunrunner]

Have tried to find it on here but havent .

When does the Rego increases come into effect ?

[Hitcher]

1 July 2010.

[munster]

1 July 2010.

so 30 June we're all off to buy 15 months worth of rego. I know I am.

[steve_t]

Can you buy more than 12 months at a time?

[munster]

Can you buy more than 12 months at a time?

as sent to me via e-mail

Want to beat the system on forward paying up to 15 months motorcycle registration ?

In our own Ulysses November club newsletter was an article put forward by the Rev Allan Wasley of Wakefield. This was distributed at the Nelson ACC protest ride.
Today Friday 27th I decided to put this to the test.
My bike was registered for 12 months in August and doesn't expire till August 2010.
I visited our local testing station and requested the MR27 form.
I filled the form in with my bike rego and bingo it works.
I thought the new extended 15 months would be assessed from the date I re registered eg August 2009 then just add 15 months, to take me through to November 2010 but no !!! the 15 months takes me through from todays date until 27/02/2011,credit was given for the next 9 months already paid. Fellow members its a winner. Gary the local manager of the Blenheim Testing station suggested tell your mates because there is no doubt the ACC component of our registration is going to go up next year, maybe not as high as first advertised but you can bet your bottom dollar will be a lot higher than it is at present.
Another thing to consider-- whats the betting they LTSA will close this loophole as soon as they can

[gunrunner]

The transport industry.
Rape victims (therell be more than you think).
Even those dirty Commies. Ixion will think he's died and gone to (wherever commies go).

Rape victims .... But arent they raping us in the back pocket ? :shit:

[sunhuntin]

so its definately 1july this year? cos i got my rego renewal in the post today and i couldnt decide whether to get 12 or 6 months. i will get 6 which should see me right and then do the 15 months when it runs out.

[gunrunner]

as sent to me via e-mail

Want to beat the system on forward paying up to 15 months motorcycle registration ?

In our own Ulysses November club newsletter was an article put forward by the Rev Allan Wasley of Wakefield. This was distributed at the Nelson ACC protest ride.
Today Friday 27th I decided to put this to the test.
My bike was registered for 12 months in August and doesn't expire till August 2010.
I visited our local testing station and requested the MR27 form.
I filled the form in with my bike rego and bingo it works.
I thought the new extended 15 months would be assessed from the date I re registered eg August 2009 then just add 15 months, to take me through to November 2010 but no !!! the 15 months takes me through from todays date until 27/02/2011,credit was given for the next 9 months already paid. Fellow members its a winner. Gary the local manager of the Blenheim Testing station suggested tell your mates because there is no doubt the ACC component of our registration is going to go up next year, maybe not as high as first advertised but you can bet your bottom dollar will be a lot higher than it is at present.
Another thing to consider-- whats the betting they LTSA will close this loophole as soon as they can


But i was told the other day you cant register something that already is registered ?

[Hitcher]

But i was told the other day you cant register something that already is registered ?

I confess that I don't understand this particular piece of avoidance. Whatever cunning plan is wrought, it will have to pass the "lady behind the counter at NZ Post" test. If I don't understand it, I suspect neither will she.

[FROSTY]

I'm trying to figure out how anyone thinks they can get 15 months registration.
The answerI feel is to go get 12 months rego on 30th of june.

[sunhuntin]

I'm trying to figure out how anyone thinks they can get 15 months registration.
The answerI feel is to go get 12 months rego on 30th of june.

i will be asking about that when i get my rego later this month. will try two different places and see if they both give me the same info or not.

[FROSTY]

funnilly enough I did just that and got a rathwer bemused expression

[Ratti]

You need to ask for an MR27 form, Its not the regular rego form.

[Hitcher]

You need to ask for an MR27 form, Its not the regular rego form.

And this MR27 allows one to do what exactly that a "normal" MR1 form can't? And where does one get such a thing?

[Mikkel]

And this MR27 allows one to do what exactly that a "normal" MR1 form can't? And where does one get such a thing?

I don't know. But it is bureaucrazy and as such it's a bit foolish to expect it to make any sense whatsoever.

[Hitcher]

I don't know. But it is bureaucrazy and as such it's a bit foolish to expect it to make any sense whatsoever.

Thanks to the Power Of The Internet I have deduced that an MR27 allows one to buy increments of a year's registration in monthly bites other than in bites of three months.

It appears that motor vehicle registration is annual and non-contiguous i.e. a motor vehicle can't be registered more than once.

On that basis, the best strategy is to reregister one's motorcycle for 12 months at an appropriate date in June. If one's rego doesn't expire in June, one can cancel for a refund one's current rego and procure, with an MR27, registration for the period from whenever one decides to cancel and the appropriate date in June.

"15 months" appears to be something of a fiction.

[Pixie]

Thanks to the Power Of The Internet I have deduced that an MR27 allows one to buy increments of a year's registration in monthly bites other than in bites of three months.

It appears that motor vehicle registration is annual and non-contiguous i.e. a motor vehicle can't be registered more than once.

On that basis, the best strategy is to reregister one's motorcycle for 12 months at an appropriate date in June. If one's rego doesn't expire in June, one can cancel for a refund one's current rego and procure, with an MR27, registration for the period from whenever one decides to cancel and the appropriate date in June.

"15 months" appears to be something of a fiction.

I've dredged this because it is getting close to the time to put in the MR 27 forms.
The form allows you to change the expiry date of a vehicle's license.
You can chose a date up to 15 months from the date of application. (see note 2 on the back of the MR 27)
Costs you $7 plus any extra rego time you need to purchase up to the new date.
Can be done irrespective of the current license status of the vehicle. (e.g. licensed, on hold, expired)

There is a question as to the date the new fees come in. Another thread say July 1.
Can anyone confirm?

[Max Preload]

IThere is a question as to the date the new fees come in. Another thread say July 1.
Can anyone confirm?

There is no question. It is 1 July (http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2010/0073/latest/DLM2788347.html).