Acc up for workers too.

[jafar]

Workers ACC up by an average of $495 per worker
GST to 15%
Where does it end ?

http://www.3news.co.nz/Changes-to-tax-system-mooted/tabid/370/articleID/132171/cat/41/Default.aspx

[Conquiztador]

Where does it end ?


2 1/2 years from now!

[James Deuce]

If GST goes to 15% and income tax doesn't drop to 25% as the upper rate, and company tax to 20%, National are well and truly on the way out next election.

[Mr Merde]

Workers ACC up by an average of $495 per worker
GST to 15%
Where does it end ?

http://www.3news.co.nz/Changes-to-tax-system-mooted/tabid/370/articleID/132171/cat/41/Default.aspx


It ends when you are 100% reliant on the powers that pretend to allow us to elect them.

When you work for them and they dole out what they think you should have whist making sure their "friends" have anything the desire.

Havent you realised yet that serfdom never died out it just got a make over and re emerged as our "democratic process".

[James Deuce]

It ends when you are 100% reliant on the powers that pretend to allow us to elect them.

When you work for them and they dole out what they think you should have whist making sure their "friends" have anything the desire.

Havent you realised yet that serfdom never died out it just got a make over and re emerged as our "democratic process".Especially the Westminster Parliamentary system.

[MadDuck]

Now as a well informed Hairy Biker....

$495 increased personal levy
$400 yet to be decided on my bike
$150 on my car
GST ... well I will have fuck all disposable income left

Given that my Head Office has announced a salary/wage increase freeze due to recession.

I think I will go play scrabble and walk to work and eat grass. Well that will save me paying to have the lawns done I guess

[jafar]

It ends when you are 100% reliant on the powers that pretend to allow us to elect them.

When you work for them and they dole out what they think you should have whist making sure their "friends" have anything the desire.

Havent you realised yet that serfdom never died out it just got a make over and re emerged as our "democratic process".

Sadly your cynical response is probably a bit too close to the truth. :eek:

[McJim]

If it reaches 17.5% we can all make cups of tea and call ourselves English!

Yayeee! :rofl:

[jafar]

If it reaches 17.5% we can all make cups of tea and call ourselves English!

Yayeee! :rofl:

:eek: We are not Ingrish.
Do we get a Euro passport with the cups of tea ?
:laugh:
What :tugger: elected this lot?:eek5:

[Mr Merde]

Sadly your cynical response is probably a bit too close to the truth. :eek:

My cynasism is only exceeded by a great desire to in some way "stick it to them".

I am not a powerful, important, wealthy man but I do have a lifetime of watching the faces of our political masters change but the message staying the same.

We belong to them. They dictate what, when, how and why we live and we have very little say in the matter.

If we object they pass a law and set their military wing (the police forces) loose on us. Thereby sustaining the status quo.

[McJim]

:eek: We are not Ingrish.
Do we get a Euro passport with the cups of tea ?
:laugh:
What :tugger: elected this lot?:eek5:

Funny you should say that. I've always considered myself European but there are loads of people who talk about Europe and Britain as though they are two different places. Britain is IN Europe. (even though their decison not to join the Euro when they had the chance means they will soon be a small 3rd world country off the coast of an economic super power) :rofl:

A lot of English seem to think they live outside Europe. Odd. If GST goes up here it will just drive inflation as wages will have to increase to cope.

[MadDuck]

Britain is IN Europe.

Nah they moved it when you went to the South. Its actually gone.

[James Deuce]

If GST goes up here it will just drive inflation as wages will have to increase to cope.
They won't. There's a recession. I think it would be a massive blunder to up GST without dropping Income Tax.

[jafar]

Funny you should say that. I've always considered myself European but there are loads of people who talk about Europe and Britain as though they are two different places. Britain is IN Europe. (even though their decison not to join the Euro when they had the chance means they will soon be a small 3rd world country off the coast of an economic super power) :rofl:

A lot of English seem to think they live outside Europe. Odd. If GST goes up here it will just drive inflation as wages will have to increase to cope.

Wages to go up to compensate ?:killingme:
Your talents are wasted mate you should be in comedy :jerry:

[MadDuck]

They won't. There's a recession. I think it would be a massive blunder to up GST without dropping Income Tax.

There is a recession. Just have to look at building consent numbers. But you got me thinking. Dammit Jim.

Are Acc levies and ETS a bullshit a way of taking peoples attention away from what is truely happening in the NZ economy?

[Mr Merde]

There is a recession. Just have to look at building consent numbers. But you got me thinking. Dammit Jim.

Are Acc levies and ETS a bullshit a way of taking peoples attention away from what is truely happening in the NZ economy?

We are all just

MUSHROOMS

[MSTRS]

There is a recession. Just have to look at building consent numbers. But you got me thinking. Dammit Jim.

Are Acc levies and ETS a bullshit a way of taking peoples attention away from what is truely happening in the NZ economy?

Not at all. It has been cleverly designed by the 'grey men' to make you think that. The reality is there is no plot or misdirection. They simply want to take more of your money.
Failing that, they'll go for your first born. Keep 'em closed, love.

[Marmoot]

Now as a well informed Hairy Biker....

$495 increased personal levy
$400 yet to be decided on my bike
$150 on my car
GST ... well I will have fuck all disposable income left


About $500 on my income
About $500 on my wife's income
About $150 on my car
About $150 on my wife's car
About $500 on my bike
What does that total to?

My question is, why are we being levied at 2020 post-10year-inflation rate while still being in 2010 salary/wage.
Why ACC insists on levying everything this year to avoid having to increase levies within the next 10 years?
Seems like 'hoarding' to me. And that's something only Scrooge does.

[rainman]

Seems like 'hoarding' to me.

I think you misspelled "thieving".

[NighthawkNZ]

Now as a well informed Hairy Biker....

$495 increased personal levy
$400 yet to be decided on my bike
$150 on my car
GST ... well I will have fuck all disposable income left


and the acc and GST on fuel

[Juzz976]

Could be a good thing, curb spending and maybe we could have a real free health care system like the english, cuban's & french have.

inflation sucks too because the last thing to go up is the wages and its never proportional, like oil and mineral prices jump from speculation but as soon as the public finds out they're unjustified costs it still takes too long for prices to come down again.
So theres all this money going to some fat cat who's not giving it back

[LBD]

So ...an accident traveling to and from work is a work related accident...so if Bike ACC levies rise, and workers levies rise...and you have a accident on the way to work....do they send 2 ambulances to pick you up...do you get twice the cover?

...And is Scotland tagging along with that third world country off the coast of Europe?

[What?]

...My question is, why are we being levied at 2020 post-10year-inflation rate while still being in 2010 salary/wage.
Why ACC insists on levying everything this year to avoid having to increase levies within the next 10 years?...

My question is "Why do so few people ask questions?"

I did a quick bit of maths today, and figured out that adding up 1 bike rego (the other has been on Hold for years), 1 car (even though Mrs What? and I have 3 between us) rego, 1 job and a friggin heap of petrol sees $3,000 going to ACC on my behalf. That's expensive insurance in any man's language, and now the bastards want to bloody-near double it!

To validate the point, I went a-googlin to see what personal accident insurance costs in a Merka. My point was very quickly validated.
So... pricks like Judge and Smith are (surprise, surprise...) lying through their teeth when they tell us how cheap ACC is compared to the options. Fact is, it's only cheap for those who do not contribute.

If the levies go up at all, or at least more than CPI, I will look pretty damned hard at downsizing the tin-top fleet, and the BM rego will be put on Hold as well.