Help with boss

[Rodney007]

Hi guys, My boss has blamed (IMO good results) bad stocktake results on me. (the warehouse guy). I asked if there was any chance of processing error or item checking apon returns (they have dozens of returns everyday that are often baged wrong by the customer)

the boss said no. I have done stocktakes here in the past and even with bad results the boss kept high spirits and said for me not to worry there was many reasons why stocktake results could be off.

also she mentioned that it was suspicious that some items were missing from shipment models that had no orders yet.

should i just get on with it and forget?
if they try to blame me can they prove it?

many people often come to warehouse while im here and tamper with items/shelfs so its not just me here.

cheers

[EgliHonda]

Yep, sucks when you are blamed for something not of your doing cos the boss is shitty. Can't help much as not really my field unfortunately...

Actually, female boss, is she rootable...?

[Tank]

I do advocacy on this frequently.

There is a process.

First they have to advise you of what the issue is and make accusations to you. They will tell you (prob in a letter) that it is serious and that you job may be terminated as a result.

Then they must complete a FULL and FAIR investigation.

Part of this will be a meeting with you and a support person.

They have to listen to you and be without prejudfing the outcome.

They then look at all the evidence and make a call on what to do.


Since there is no letter - or accusation at this point - just be helpful but dont say anything stupid. And make sure that you dont get in a position where you are anything other than whiter than white.

Good luck.

[Tank]

oops - BTW they do have to prove that their suspisions are correct to a level that a 'fair and reasonable employer' would believe that you are stealing.

They do not need to prove it to a level of criminal conduct.

look at the Department of labour website - there is a ton of info.

if you are young - see youth law.

[huff3r]

And remember, its practically impossible to fire someone who is, or even isnt doing the right thing these days. Too much risk of a lawsuit, so maybe they are trying to scare you into quitting instead?

[Tank]

And remember, its practically impossible to fire someone who is, or even isnt doing the right thing these days. Too much risk of a lawsuit, so maybe they are trying to scare you into quitting instead?

Its not a law suit generally things are raised via a Personal grevance and settled in mediation or the era - very few make it to the employment court (which is extremely expensive).

and actually its not that hard to fire someone - you just have top be fair and reasonable.

[Sidewinder]

iv seen your car dude. theres no way you could steal enough in it to make it look bad at stock take time. and if she said theres no need to worry im sure it will be ok. at my old job it took more than i day to do a stock take and after all the time just counting its easy to fuck up things. and someone may of fucked stuff up when entering it into the system:done:

[avgas]

blame that fat chick customer

[Stirts]

and actually its not that hard to fire someone - you just have top be fair and reasonable.

It's just too hard to be fair and reasonable when you're a female! :blink:

[phred]

What Tank said.

Failure to follow the process causes the employer much grief.
There are many things that reduce the accuracy of a stocktake. SOme of which are policy driven by your boss.

[merlin]

I was once accused for stealing the bar till at a jazz club I was working in Berlin!....ha ha! And then the place got robbed and the boss accused me of that too!!!...it was a very 'black sheep moment' for me. I told him to shove it and walk out right there and then...

Not a nice feeling at all, being unjustly accused of stealing! I just saw it as being time to move on.

I think you need to ask yourself whether you're happy in your job or would you rather work somewhere else?...

If you're happy, just relax and do your job well. It will sort itself out.
If you're not happy, then start putting your feelers out for a new job. Maybe think deeply about what you wanna do and where you wanna be...it will present it self in time dude.

Either way, I wouldn't be having any grand discussions with the employer about your plans. You don't really want to draw attention to yourself, as it seems obvious that your boss is really just in a state of 'hating at someone...anyone!!'

Just stay relaxed. And rise above it - don't let it get on top of you. :wari:

PS...dude, it's xmas...people go crazy...

[steve_t]

Document all interactions of any accusatory manner or any hostility with date and time. Then quit and file a grievance for "constructive dismissal" :shit::shutup:

[Murray]

If there are other people with access to the warehouse, bad coding or whatever what I would do is make a list of areas that you see the potential for error or theft. List them down with possible ways to reduce the above or tighten up the whole system. Present them with your report and leave it in their hands.

You will be seen as proactive and you cannot be held liable if they don't act on what you see as their shortfalls.

[AllanB]

Sounds like your stores are as good as ours - people in and out and no real record kept of what they are taking. End result 1000 units in and 950 sold - where did the rest 'go'?

Point out the flaws of the system in your nicest manner and even make suggestions on how it may be tightened up.

In reality if you are to be held solely responsible for the stores you need a system implemented that locks the whole stores down so in and out goods access is severely restricted and recorded. She'll hate it!

[crazyhorse]

Document all interactions of any accusatory manner or any hostility with date and time. Then quit and file a grievance for "constructive dismissal" :shit::shutup:

I agree with this comment - and with TANK

[Waxxa]

if the process is at fault have a good hard evaluation of it and put a proposal to the boss on how things can be improved for the future.

be proactive rather than let the suspicion fall on you and other colleagues.

[Rodney007]

Thanks for your advice guys..

I called for a meeting with the boss.

I said I was sorry about the stocktake results. She cut me off and said why, I said well yesterday you gave me the Impression that it was because of my errors she said " I DID NOT " and she went all red, I said "can you please calm down for a second" she said " LOOK ROD YOU CANT JUST MAKE UP THINGS THAT I SAY " I said " what on earth have I done to you tracey to be treated like this",,, she said " Rod... I said that you may have been a contrubuting factor" I cut her off and said " You said that there was no possible way that it could have been processing error or wrong checking of items apon returns" she said " NO I DIDNT ... I DIDNT " i said "wow tracey ... wow"
she said "LOOK IM BUSY" and walked off



FUCKING BIATCH!!!!!!!!

[Brian d marge]

tracey .......


Good luck

Her Job is probably important to her and its her life , probably not interested in expanding her horizons ,,,

Stephen

[Pussy]

Sounds like Tracy has a WICKED case of PMT!

[Cheshire Cat]

sounds like tracy needs to get laid :shutup::laugh:

[Sidewinder]

sounds like tracy needs to get laid :shutup::laugh:

yep and we all know the right guy to do it!:done:

[ManDownUnder]

Whatever it is - don't push it. She wants to leave it alone - and chasing it will quite likely end up in a complicated situation.

Document it, keep her comments made most recently up your sleeve, and try put it behind you

[Stirts]

TRACY BEING A FUCKING BIATCH!!!!!!!!

Well good on you for taking that step, calling a meeting and bringing her to task in regards to her comments :niceone:

And I agree with MDU. Keep a record of what was said, keep it factual, and record the date and time.

[The Pastor]

Oh noes your boss yelled at you, you should start a kb thread about it and QQ some MOAR.

[steve_t]

...she said " LOOK ROD WE CANT JUST MAKE UP AND KISS AT WORK "

FUCKING BIATCH!!!!!!!!

:laugh::laugh::laugh: She sounds into you :innocent::sunny:

[Cheshire Cat]

Oh noes your boss yelled at you, you should start a kb thread about it and QQ some MOAR.

Fuck up dickheah. If you dont like what you read then piss off

[KiwiGs]

I have two words for your boss PROVE IT or you could go with FUCK OFF!*
Sounds like she is just passing shit down the line to me.
If you decide to ignore my advice** ManDownUnder's suggestion is a good fallback position....











* Following my advice can sometimes be a career limiting move....
** See *

[2wheeldrifter]

Sounds about time you planted one on her.....









or in her? :laugh:

[The Pastor]

fuck up dickheah. If you dont like what you read then piss off
lots of people dont like there jobs but do them anyway.

[Shadows]

Assuming you have been doing nothing wrong - tell her that you don't know what is going on and that maybe she should consider contacting a security firm for a bit of covert surveillance if she thinks things aren't right.

Do not speak of it to anybody else. Forget about it and carry on.

In a past life, when we had unexplained shrinkage problems in our warehouses, hidden cameras would catch the fuckers out every time.

[Cheshire Cat]

lots of people dont like there jobs but do them anyway.

It's not the job, its the bitches he works with. being treated like that is not acceptable

[Maha]

lots of people dont like there jobs but do them anyway.

I like my job, I do it anyway, and I sleep with the Boss......:shifty:

[avgas]

It's not the job, its the bitches he works with. being treated like that is not acceptable

But is common practice. Its called management. Not necessary good management, but management.

[avgas]

I like my job, I do it anyway, and I sleep with the Boss......:shifty:

Does your wife know:laugh:

[The Pastor]

It's not the job, its the bitches he works with. being treated like that is not acceptable
Never said it was.

[Cheshire Cat]

But is common practice. Its called management. Not necessary good management, but management.

do you know the WHOLE story?

[crazyhorse]

Unfortunately you can do little about poor management - so I hope for his sake something good comes of it. Maybe she will resign.......... yeah right :whistle:

[Maha]

Does your wife know:laugh:

hell yeah, its all good with her.....:confused: