Looking for a mature Pussy in the Chch area

[Skyryder]

Willow that is.


Got this dick head with his tree right in front of our panaramic view from out lounge and there is a Pussy Willow growing smack bang in front of the lounge window. Not only that but this trees is about a foot away from a supporting post of a retaining wall that will in time cause problems. Have asked him to trim tree back but his response is that it is a 'back drop' and he will not ablige so it looks like it's off the the Court.

Anyway I need a photo of a mature Pussy Willow so I can demostrate just how big this tree is going to get.

Anyone know of one in the Chch area of out a bit etc.


Skyryder

[Pussy]

Tordon Brushkiller is your friend, Bernie!.......

[SMOKEU]

Buy a chainsaw. Or a whole shitload of poison such as Roundup.

[AllanB]

I tried to help you - I Googled "pussy' but I'm pretty sure that's not the type of tree you are talking about ......

There are some very old Pussy's on Manchester Street as well, and I'm sure some of them even have bark down there ......

But I digress ......

I'd be inclined to give the Council Parks department a call - I bet they know where there are heaps growing along waterways etc. I wonder if the ones along the Avon by Hagley Park are Pussy Willows?

Maybe you need to start Burt Munroeing the tree with some natural fertaliser - pretty sure enough of that will knock it off!

[Reckless]

Tordon Brushkiller is your friend, Bernie!.......

There you go found your pussy and the solution LOL!!!

[Pussy]

Maybe you need to start Burt Munroeing the tree with some natural fertaliser - pretty sure enough of that will knock it off!

Sadly, the nitrogen in urine will only make it grow better!

[Motu]

Are you sure it's Pussy willow,sometimes called Grey willow? Grows up to 7 m high,but usually smaller.Listed in the National Pest Plant Accord,not that it means much.Crack willow is more common (here in the Waikato anyway) and can grow up to 25m high,and is very invasive.

[AllanB]

Crack willow

Hey - you Google 'Pussy" too?

But I digress ......

If it is a bit of a shit plant the CCC may not like it at all, they are pretty anal about their plants here.

If push comes to shove with the neighbour as a last resort you could always weld up some really ugly sculptures for him to look at - tell him they are 'art' - hell the Council will probably pay you tens of thousands for them and put them in the square!

[Motu]

Hey - you Google 'Pussy" too?


No,I have a shit load of those ancient book things around....and most are close to hand.

[mikeey01]

Hey Skyryder...

Woody weed killer in one and Amitrole in the other and a couple of super soakers from the warehouse dude, a few beers, a few mates and you'll have a ball, solved!

If that's not an option, I can get my hands on some stuff that will take it out for sure.

[Oakie]

Woody weed killer in one .

+ 1 for 'Woody'. (That's actually 'Woody' weedkiller, not a 'woody' bourbon.)
A little cut in the tree, a bit of woody applied, give it a couple of years and hey presto! Can't confirm how I know this but my view over our western fence got a whole lot better about two weeks ago.

[PrincessBandit]

I recommend amitrole as well - great stuff! Pity though as I like pussy willow.
Now if it was a stinky old privet then I'd be down there to give you a hand!

[Mikkel]

:devil2:Just water it with a copper-sulphate solution. That'll take care of it quicksmart. However, in doing so you'd have no sympathy if your neighbour decides to smack you in the mouth...

Plenty of examples on how "good" neighbours have taken matters into their own hands and made free with other people's property. It's vandalism no matter which way you look at it - no different from tipping over someones bike because you think it is too noisy.

As for a photo of a mature pussy willow... have you tried googling it

[2wheeldrifter]

I tried to help you - I Googled "pussy' but I'm pretty sure that's not the type of tree you are talking about ......

There are some very old Pussy's on Manchester Street as well, and I'm sure some of them even have bark down there ......

But I digress ......

I'd be inclined to give the Council Parks department a call - I bet they know where there are heaps growing along waterways etc. I wonder if the ones along the Avon by Hagley Park are Pussy Willows?

Maybe you need to start Burt Munroeing the tree with some natural fertaliser - pretty sure enough of that will knock it off!

Did the same... got side tracked for some reason and forgot what I was really looking for... sorry dude didn't find one :no: although there were some nice mature ones... just not the same.

[Forest]

Sorry, but the law doesn't guarantee your property a right to a view.

[Skyryder]

The property act does give me some ammunition in a number of areas however as someone said there are no 'rights' when it comes to a view. However if the view was unimpeeded at the time of purchase and said neighbour allows a seedling tree to impede said view there is a better chance of getting the tree removed than if the tree was there at the time of purchase.

While the view is the immediate concern the fact that the base of the tree is only about 12 inches from the post of a retaining wall is an additional concern and this is why I want it removed as against pruned. Costs to fix the retaining wall due to future damage far out weighs keeping the tree growing and these trees can get biggish and on top of this the arsehole has put in irragation to help it grow. This after a few weeks of my approaching him and he's been on the property for six years so not hard to read his attitude to my concerns etc.:shake:

I've tried the botanic gardens but they only have a a young pussy willow. The old one died and was removed.

One species is considered a noxious weed but to get a formal ID which I have tried with only the leaves I also need the catkins.

As for killing it yep could do that but the lawfull way is the right way. I'm fairly optamistic that I can win. Just gona cost money and time



Skyryder

[Beemer]

Good luck - we had a great view of the ranges when we moved here as the neighbour's pine trees were only about a metre tall. Now, nearly seven years later, they are about 10m tall and growing. They are also less than half a metre from the boundary and the council regulations state any tree that is likely to grow taller than 4m cannot be planted within 10m of the boundary without the neighbour's consent. They did not have the previous owner's consent and they certainly didn't have ours. We asked if they could keep them trimmed and got told no, and they laid a complaint with the police when we trimmed our side of them! They have moved out now and the new owners (who rent it out at present) are happy for us to keep them trimmed but they are so tall now it's not easy as they are on two steep slopes. They also have an enormous willow tree that is now about 20m tall down at the base of the two slopes.

We get sweet FA view now and they will need to be removed eventually as they will cause problems for the fences and waterway. We'd love to poison them but I think they'd notice as there are about 50 of them! Fucking stupid place to plant so many pine trees and so close together - they are about a metre apart. If he'd kept them trimmed into a hedge I could understand it, but planting a veritable forest along the boundary is ridiculous. He has a big hedge along most of the front, and also about 10 large poplars. Thankfully they are all on our east side so don't shade anything other than the drive in the winter mornings.

[carbonhed]

It's a carbon sink mate. Suck it up for the good of the planet.

[Molly]

Though it's generally thought that you have a right to light but not to view, I recently read that where the view constitutes a major portion of a property's value, you do have a right to protect it. I've got the piece of legislation somewhere around here. That said, I'd just go round with a f'kin' chainsaw and take care of it myself.

We've a nice view too. As I type I can see over the Rapaki (sp) track, over the Brighton spit and out to sea. The house would be worth f'k all if that was blocked out. I'd be bloody sure to protect it.

[Patrick]

The mature pussy in the Naki might be able to source some aviation gas for you to water it with...... If I am not mistaken, it kills everything and nothing else will grow for a long time afterward...?

Just as an aside...

A mate built a new house in Hobsonville, awesome upper harbour views... except for the tall tree in the middle of the neighbours property.... He offered to cut it down, remove and get a stump remover, and the guy said come over for a drink and bring your cheque book to discuss.............

He got the last laugh.... He built his new fence, half a metre inside his boundary, all at his expense, so it is his fence.... Invited as many people as possible to bring a small tin of the ugliest coloured paint one could find and they painted the back side of the fence, the side facing the same neighbour..... with the ugliest shades of various ugly paint one can imagine.

Didn't take long for the neighbour to make contact, complaining. Was told not to touch the fence, as it wasnot his and it wasn't on the boundary, so he had no rights to do so either..... but then the moment of revenge for the mate...... "bring your cheque book over, so we can discuss...."

The tree was gone the next day. And it didn't cost him a cent.

[Pussy]

The mature pussy in the Naki might be able to source some aviation gas for you to water it with...... If I am not mistaken, it kills everything and nothing else will grow for a long time afterward...?

Haha!
A couple of litres of Jet-A1 would sort it, alright! :niceone:

[Winston001]

The property act does give me some ammunition in a number of areas however as someone said there are no 'rights' when it comes to a view. However if the view was unimpeeded at the time of purchase and said neighbour allows a seedling tree to impede said view there is a better chance of getting the tree removed than if the tree was there at the time of purchase.

While the view is the immediate concern the fact that the base of the tree is only about 12 inches from the post of a retaining wall is an additional concern and this is why I want it removed as against pruned. Costs to fix the retaining wall due to future damage far out weighs keeping the tree growing and these trees can get biggish and on top of this the arsehole has put in irragation to help it grow. This after a few weeks of my approaching him and he's been on the property for six years so not hard to read his attitude to my concerns etc.:shake:

I've tried the botanic gardens but they only have a a young pussy willow. The old one died and was removed.

One species is considered a noxious weed but to get a formal ID which I have tried with only the leaves I also need the catkins.

As for killing it yep could do that but the lawfull way is the right way. I'm fairly optamistic that I can win. Just gona cost money and time



Skyryder

Sounds like you have already researched your options. The established law was Section 129 which has now been replaced by sections 332 -338 Property Law Act 2007. The new provisions look wider than before and more favourable to you.

Case law on this subject is all over the place from memory (haven't looked at it for a while). Each case relies upon the specific circumstances involved. As you say, if the tree wasn't there when you moved in (or small) you have a good argument for trimming or removal.

The damage argument is separate but also valid. Unfortunately if your neighbour won't listen then it will take a District Court judge to make an order. Of course the neighbour might not like the idea of a court battle and pull his head in.

As for poisoning the tree - that's unlawful and kinda hard for you to deny and keep your personal integrity. Mind you, a friend opposed to invasive species could pop around one day completely without your knowledge and do something.......... :cool:

[geoffc]

Pussy Willows or any Willow tree for that matter have a reputation for blocking drains, their roots will travel great distances in search of said pipes. The Pussy Willow is very prone to trunk splitting or wind damage once it gets larger. Shit get in there while your neighbours away. Drill a few small holes sloping down in the trunk & pour in some Round up or similar. (Then walk away and forget.) Do both you & next door a big favour.

[Motu]

Do you have photos of your tree so we can identify it? I went out looking today,and can't find a lot of Pussy Willow here,but there is some.Crack willow is everywhere,and saw some full blown 25m trees,you will be in serious trouble if it's a Crack willow,they get bigger than a Weeping willow.

Here are my observations,Pussy willow leaves,crack willow leaves,and a pussy willow at 2 or 3 m,with a crack willow towering behind.Up here,a Pussy willow is a puny little shrub compared to a Crack willow.