Other parties that need targetting [Archive]

Nasty

4th December 2009, 08:12

We know that the Labour Party is suportive of us ... now we need to put pressure on those supporting the bill and ask them what THEY are going to do ...

ACT
Maori Party

These two need some attention - so thoughts please - what events are there going that we can attend - or bring attention to?

scissorhands

4th December 2009, 08:29

list of ACT events

Xmas party tomorrow night 5th Dec in Auckland City

http://www.act.org.nz/events

can we go please?

Ixion

4th December 2009, 08:51

Maori party definately need attention.

We have ignored them, yet they are the oens who could stop this thing overnight.

If national didn't have their support , it's be all over, rover.

The score card so far is :

National . ENEMY - and being targeted
ACT Fudging. Their agenda is on a different level
Maoris ENEMY - and being ignored

Labour Ally
Progressive Ally
Greens Strong Ally
Dunne Strong Ally

Targeting the Maori party needs to be different to national. It's a bit of a weird structure, they don't have electorate offices or such like do they ?

Emailing them is a waste of time they totally ignore emails.

Ixion

4th December 2009, 08:54

That link to the ACT calendar says

ACT Annual Conference 2010 (http://www.act.org.nz/event/act-annual-conference-2010)

<label>Start: </label>26/02/2010 - 15:30

<label>End: </label>27/02/2010 - 17:30

Registration forms for this highpowered Annual conference to be held at Festival time in Wellington,

Note the dates. And what's this "Fesitival time" thing ?

NighthawkNZ

4th December 2009, 09:02

The score card so far is :

National . ENEMY - and being targeted
ACT Fudging. Their agenda is on a different level
Maoris ENEMY - and being ignored

Labour Ally
Progressive Ally
Greens Strong Ally
Dunne Strong Ally

As the countries puppets sets their chess pieces in place to get strategic leverage for the final battle, <style>  </style> we all know how it is going to end. Or is the battle going to sway and the true victor still be the people voice... or are puppeteers that are running the show going to win.

The governemt, the people, both puppets of a higher domain the dollar.

Nasty

4th December 2009, 09:57

Wellington action group can handle the conference. Can auckland do this one:

Start: 05/12/2009 - 00:00
Featuring Q&A Session with Sir Roger Douglas on his new paper 'Catching Austtralia By 2025: An Alternative Approach

Sunnytown Chinese Restaurant
404 Khyber Pass Road
Newmarket
Auckland

Cover Charge $30

All Welcome!

Note: Please send your questions to Sir Roger ahead of time to stephen.whittington@parliament.govt.nz

(The paper can be downloaded from the front page of this website)

For more information or to make a reservation please contact:

Heidi Bale - heidi.bale@parliament.govt.nz or 09 523 0474

Its tomorrow night .. so very quickly up.

scissorhands

4th December 2009, 10:11

I can go early and nab some parking in front as it comes available. I'll bring a beer to keep me busy

I only have one bike though, need others to help secure parking in front of restaurant

Cock and Bull Brewery and Bar is right there too

Ixion

4th December 2009, 10:19

Google maps doesn't show it at 404. More like 444 ?

Anyway Cock and Bull pub just across the road.

Not a lot of street parking there anyway, but a big parking building a few metres up the road, I'm guessing they'll park there.

scissorhands

4th December 2009, 11:00

Street view shows no parking along kerb in front of Sunny Town Restaurant. Where to park up? so ACT punters can be approached as they enter, and are constantly reminded of our presence?

Waxxa

4th December 2009, 11:08

yes good tactic

target the Maori party hui's

scissorhands

4th December 2009, 11:13

Wheres a list of their get togethers? I couldnt find one

Mully

4th December 2009, 11:23

Maori party definately need attention.

We have ignored them, yet they are the oens who could stop this thing overnight.

If national didn't have their support , it's be all over, rover.

Targeting the Maori party needs to be different to national. It's a bit of a weird structure, they don't have electorate offices or such like do they ?

Something of which National, naturally, is well aware - and has already done a "30 pieces of silver deal" with the Foreshore Act thingy

It appears that the Maori Party actually listen to their electorate more than the "mainstream" parties do - I would say we need grassroots Maori voters on side to start that ball rolling.

Anyone on the Maori Electoral Roll?? Wanna go to some Hui (Huis?)??

EDIT: I see Waxxa already suggested targetting the hui,

Laxi

4th December 2009, 11:36

was thinking about the maori party this morning actualy, they tend to take notice of their constituants, wonder if there is a council of chiefs/maori parliament or somthing we could hit up for support, any rises in acc or privitisation are going to hit low income earners hardest so should think thayd be with us

scissorhands

4th December 2009, 16:00

was thinking about the maori party this morning actualy, they tend to take notice of their constituants, wonder if there is a council of chiefs/maori parliament or somthing we could hit up for support, any rises in acc or privitisation are going to hit low income earners hardest so should think thayd be with us

shame on them hurting their people siding with National re ACC

Laxi

4th December 2009, 16:06

shame on them hurting their people siding with National.

fixed :niceone:

wingrider

4th December 2009, 16:14

was thinking about the maori party this morning actualy, they tend to take notice of their constituants, wonder if there is a council of chiefs/maori parliament or somthing we could hit up for support, any rises in acc or privitisation are going to hit low income earners hardest so should think thayd be with us

As I understand it both the Ratana movement and the Maori king are the biggest voices within the Maori population.

The Ratana church is also a powerful political presence.

I suggested in another thread that i felt thats where we need to go to get the message out to the majority of the Maori's.

Their elected few are ripping off their people big time.
I have not had a reply to any of the emails sent to party members over the past 6 weeks and I take it from comments on here neither has anyone else.

flyingcrocodile46

4th December 2009, 16:16

Something of which National, naturally, is well aware - and has already done a "30 pieces of silver deal" with the Foreshore Act thingy

Yes! and lets not forget the carbon credits commodity bribe that Nick just gave them for all of OUR tax payer funded pine forests that they can sell for tens of millions of dollars. The dirty lowlife cunt.

NONONO

4th December 2009, 16:48

Maori party definately need attention.

We have ignored them, yet they are the oens who could stop this thing overnight.

If national didn't have their support , it's be all over, rover.

The score card so far is :

National . ENEMY - and being targeted
ACT Fudging. Their agenda is on a different level
Maoris ENEMY - and being ignored

Labour Ally
Progressive Ally
Greens Strong Ally
Dunne Strong Ally

Targeting the Maori party needs to be different to national. It's a bit of a weird structure, they don't have electorate offices or such like do they ?

Emailing them is a waste of time they totally ignore emails.

I have trouble believing this post!
ACT not the enemy? FFS They didn't even need a bribe, lock stock and barrel behind the proposal. You honestly believe ACC would be safe in ACT's hands, I should coco!
The minor parties are not the issue, they will do deals on whatever enables them to obtain thier core goals.
Niether ACT or the Maori (elite) Party proposed this agenda, the Nats did.
Spread our resources too thinly we end up as spit roasted bikers who took their eye off the ball.
Concentrate our protest where it belongs or we will live to regret it.
NATS and ACC putting the blame on Bikers.

Laxi

4th December 2009, 17:01

thats bullshit! the only thing natzional listen to is fear! cause a wobble in their already shaky coallition

NONONO

5th December 2009, 19:56

thats bullshit! the only thing natzional listen to is fear! cause a wobble in their already shaky coallition

So where were you all?
I turned up.
Lots of noise no fuckin action.

Laxi

5th December 2009, 19:59

where did you turn up??? ya kinda lost me with that 1:confused:

NONONO

5th December 2009, 20:11

where did you turn up??? ya kinda lost me with that 1:confused:

ACT in Newmarket, try first page, this thread.
Don't you owe me a PM? getting close to my Xmas visit.

Katman

5th December 2009, 21:48

It was suggested the other day that the elderly are starting to feel vulnerable about the possibility that ACC may start looking closely at them.

Has anyone considered approaching Grey Power to see if we can get them on side?

NONONO

5th December 2009, 22:29

So much noise about targeting the fringe.
when we get the opportunity, no bastard bothers.
Empty fucking vessels make the most noise.
Now you want to go after Grey Power?
You are having a fuckin laugh aren't you?

Katman

5th December 2009, 22:43

You are having a fuckin laugh aren't you?

Yeah, and you're providing plenty of opportunity.

flyingcrocodile46

5th December 2009, 23:07

So much noise about targeting the fringe.
when we get the opportunity, no bastard bothers.
Empty fucking vessels make the most noise.
Now you want to go after Grey Power?
You are having a fuckin laugh aren't you?

Now, now. Don't get all negative and drag others down because something went wrong for you.

There are a lot of threads proposing protest action, some either clash with peoples commitments or just don't manage to pique their interest (ref Westfield flop). As far as I could see, only a couple of people made a firm statement of attendance. Check around and see who's actually attending.

NONONO

6th December 2009, 05:52

Yeah, and you're providing plenty of opportunity.

Please accept my apologies.
Post made last night with the assistance of "Too Much Beer"
Slap deserved.

Kennif

6th December 2009, 07:29

I have trouble believing this post!
ACT not the enemy? FFS They didn't even need a bribe, lock stock and barrel behind the proposal. You honestly believe ACC would be safe in ACT's hands, I should coco!
The minor parties are not the issue, they will do deals on whatever enables them to obtain thier core goals.
Niether ACT or the Maori (elite) Party proposed this agenda, the Nats did.
Spread our resources too thinly we end up as spit roasted bikers who took their eye off the ball.
Concentrate our protest where it belongs or we will live to regret it.
NATS and ACC putting the blame on Bikers.

Yes ACT is definitely the enemy. The only thing different about them is that they are upfront about their belief that ACC should be privatised. I don't like it but find it more acceptable than the Nat's position which I still believe is a hidden agenda to privatise ACC.

Ms Piggy

6th December 2009, 08:00

Maoris ENEMY - and being ignored.
Actually when this all began I heard Tariana Turia state that the reason they supported it was so that the people could have their say. So I actually don't believe the Maori Party are ENEMY. Although I haven't kept up to date with any comments after that.

was thinking about the maori party this morning actualy, they tend to take notice of their constituants, wonder if there is a council of chiefs/maori parliament or somthing we could hit up for support, any rises in acc or privitisation are going to hit low income earners hardest so should think thayd be with usYes you're right mate, they do appear to do that.

I certainly agree we need to approach them and get a clear idea from them of why they have supported the levy increase thus far.