Complete list of bike gear?

[Steven]

Hello to all, I've been scouring your wicked site but cant find a list of gears I should buy. I am a learner about to get my licence and already own a leather jacket, but what else do I NEED. I won't be going over 70 and I will things slowly, as ever since my car crash I have been a cautious person when learning anything but I know I have the very real possibility of falling off. I know I need a bike lol, and a jacket, but what else? And what materials should I get and how much would it cost second hand? Cheers!

[zahria]

I'd reccomend a helmet, gloves, boots, and some leather pants/ armoured pants.
And a Bike.

[sleemanj]

Jacket.
Pants.
Boots.
Gloves.
Helmet.

That about covers you.

Cordura (a nylon fabric with high abrasion and water resistance) over leather given you are road riding is my personal opinion.

TradeMe is a good place to find all this stuff, new.

Boots, I'd just get some good ol steel cap work boots from The Warehouse.

Leather vs Textile and Work Bots vs Motorcycle Boots is religous war territory.

[FJRider]

Jacket.
Pants.
Boots.
Gloves.
Helmet.

That about covers you.

Cordura (a nylon fabric with high abrasion and water resistance) over leather given you are road riding is my personal opinion.

TradeMe is a good place to find all this stuff, new.

Boots, I'd just get some good ol steel cap work boots from The Warehouse.

Leather vs Textile and Work Bots vs Motorcycle Boots is religous war territory.

What he said ,but get what you can afford ... when you can afford it.

[Futura]

Would seriously recommend doing a handling course. Ride Right Ride Safe do a great course, you can get the links from the BRONZ site. This will teach you skills to stay upright, alive and also give you confidence out there too. All the best, and safe riding.

[p.dath]

What he said ,but get what you can afford ... when you can afford it.

Negative. If you can't afford to buy the above list, wait till you can before getting on a bike.

Plenty of accidents you can read about on here from people who did it half arsed and ended up with serious injuries.

[FJRider]

Negative. If you can't afford to buy the above list, wait till you can before getting on a bike.

Plenty of accidents you can read about on here from people who did it half arsed and ended up with serious injuries.

I meant there is NEW (expensive) high-quality Known-Name stuff, which he may not afford.... Or ... cheaper good quality second-hand stuff.

I never suggested NOT wearing gear... if I was thought to say that ... my apologies...

[Quasievil]

Hello to all, I've been scouring your wicked site but cant find a list of gears I should buy. I am a learner about to get my licence and already own a leather jacket, but what else do I NEED. I won't be going over 70 and I will things slowly, as ever since my car crash I have been a cautious person when learning anything but I know I have the very real possibility of falling off. I know I need a bike lol, and a jacket, but what else? And what materials should I get and how much would it cost second hand? Cheers!

Mate your about 20 mins from us so drop me a line on 0275430329 (text) and come and see what I can do, will do you a nice little package for nicks !
Got lots of options

Cheers

[Steven]

Yeah I will make sure I get all I can read and a real good course. I've ridden offroad and have mates who do MX but I know I'm no expert. Nor am I invincible. And ATM I have...

Leather Jacket,
Leather Pants,
MX Gloves,
Plenty of boots,
MX Armour (should I wear this?)
Need a helmet.

Does anyone wear any reflector vests? I've heard mixed results about their effectivness. Might also get a white helmet or spray paint a helmet and bike bright green or red. Thanks for the help guys

[Laxi]

I would buy a decent pair of leather gloves, dont know how well MX gloves hold up to sliding on tar seal, your hands need good protection, in a bin its only naural for them to be the 1st thing that goes out

[p.dath]

Does anyone wear any reflector vests? I've heard mixed results about their effectivness. Might also get a white helmet or spray paint a helmet and bike bright green or red. Thanks for the help guys

I do sometimes. Especially at night or if it is pissing down. Basically whenever visibility is reduced.

Otherwise I don't tend to worry about it so much.

EDIT: Don't spray paint a helmet unless you know what your doing! The chemicals in the paint can destroy the energy absorbing layer in the helmet. Do a search on helmet painting, and you'll see what I mean.

[phill-k]

Bought all my gear on trade me = 1tonne hes on here as well, great gear well made but without the "prada" pricing, check them out, they also have a website as well.
enjoy

[davebullet]

Cordura (a nylon fabric with high abrasion and water resistance) over leather given you are road riding is my personal opinion.

Wear one or the other. Unnecessary to wear cordura at the same time as leather.

[nallac]

Wear one or the other. Unnecessary to wear cordura at the same time as leather.

unless its raining.

[BikerDazz]

Leather's no good in the rain bro.
Hey, I'm no expert either, but I think it's worth getting boots that at least cover your ankles, and decent gloves.
I've had me a few wines so if this sounds shit ....:laugh:

[KrazyGixxerBoy]

My personal preferance when I'm riding is...

-Helmet
-Full leathers
-Spine protector
-carbon knuckle, kevlar gloves
-proper boots

Might seem a bit overkill but i've got a wife and 3 kids, the more there is to keep me alive if I stack it, the better!

[1tonne]

Check out www.1tonne.co.nz

[Steven]

My personal preferance when I'm riding is...

-Helmet
-Full leathers
-Spine protector
-carbon knuckle, kevlar gloves
-proper boots

Might seem a bit overkill but i've got a wife and 3 kids, the more there is to keep me alive if I stack it, the better!

I'll at least get leather gloves then, if not kevlar ones,

What's a spine protector? Should I get one if I'm learning? i.e. not going over 70 kph

[Jantar]

Leather's no good in the rain bro.....:
Leather is just as good in the rain as anything else. It all depends on how well its looked after and treated.

Leather is far better than anything else in the event of a spill.

[FROSTY]

My opinion for you here
1) helmet -Must be new and for a learner rider quite honestly I dont see any advantage in gettting an expensive helmet. If on the spot to reccoment I'd suggest an HJC CL20 -cost about $120-150
2) Gloves-reasonable quality gloves you can buy for around $40-$80 I tend to reccomend light summer gloves for learner riders till they get A FEEL FOR THE CONTROLS.
3)Boots. They can be second (or even third) hand. The important thing with boots IMO is that they must offer protection for the ankle and of couse the foot itself.
4)leg protection -Given a limited budget I reccomend cudura -it offers reasonable crash protection whilst also keeping you dry.
Other than your jacket this is the stuff I'd suggest you need to buy.
I'd also suggest a shower proof over jacket argueably in a dayglo color

BUT--as someone else said the gears only any use if you crash. RIDER TRAINING is the best investment

[sleemanj]

Wear one or the other. Unnecessary to wear cordura at the same time as leather.


Hahah. I meant "over" as in "in preference to", not "wear both at the same time, one over the other. I don't think that would be a good idea, unless you're riding in artactica or something.

[Steven]

My opinion for you here
1) helmet -Must be new and for a learner rider quite honestly I dont see any advantage in gettting an expensive helmet. If on the spot to reccoment I'd suggest an HJC CL20 -cost about $120-150
2) Gloves-reasonable quality gloves you can buy for around $40-$80 I tend to reccomend light summer gloves for learner riders till they get A FEEL FOR THE CONTROLS.
3)Boots. They can be second (or even third) hand. The important thing with boots IMO is that they must offer protection for the ankle and of couse the foot itself.
4)leg protection -Given a limited budget I reccomend cudura -it offers reasonable crash protection whilst also keeping you dry.
Other than your jacket this is the stuff I'd suggest you need to buy.
I'd also suggest a shower proof over jacket argueably in a dayglo color

BUT--as someone else said the gears only any use if you crash. RIDER TRAINING is the best investment

I will be getting training. I'm man enough to admit I'm not the best at everything. Unlike some people I know.

How come a new helmet and not 2nd hand?

And are leather jeans not good enough for protection? Thanks everybody for the help, it's amazing finding a forum that people are nice on and give real advice! :gob:

[sleemanj]

How come a new helmet and not 2nd hand?

You don't know the history of it. Helmet are a "one use" thing, and even though it can "look" ok, no real knowing what the actual structure is doing, and the foam inside may have (and probably has) compressed.

Even if it hasn't been hit, the foam in a helmet will "form" around your head after a while, use somebody else's helmet and the fit won't be as good.


And are leather jeans not good enough for protection?

Well, they'd be better than denim.

[KrazyGixxerBoy]

I'll at least get leather gloves then, if not kevlar ones,

What's a spine protector? Should I get one if I'm learning? i.e. not going over 70 kph

Spine protector is literally that. Mine is a Technic one but I don't know the model etc...they are fairly common. Basically it's designed to mold to your spine and bend with the natural curves of it. should prevent your spine bending the wrong way in a crash and breaking.

Re: the 70kph thing...your call. Not many people will actually ride 70kph while on a learners and you'll probably find mixed opinions on here about that..IMHO I think it's more dangerous to do 70kph on a motorway with other traffic sitting on 100-110. In saying this, to be legal I highly recommend focussing on 50-70kph zones to get your confidence up.

You can definately do good gear on a budget (1 tonne, Quasimoto etc) again my honest opinion is don't skimp on things that may save your life...too late to regret it after it's happened.

[steve_t]

...it's amazing finding a forum that people are nice on and give real advice!

:eek5::eek5::eek5::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[KrazyGixxerBoy]

it's amazing finding a forum that people are nice on and give real advice! :gob:


:eek5::eek5::eek5::laugh::laugh::laugh:

:rofl: ...missed that one...he'll learn! :rofl:

[Hahn]

You can definately do good gear on a budget (1 tonne, Quasimoto etc) again my honest opinion is don't skimp on things that may save your life...too late to regret it after it's happened.

I reckon, "Do it once and do it right". I got cheap gear when I started riding, then went out and bought new better quality gear within six months. Your most likely going to have it a while as well so make sure your gear is comfortable and will last.

Happy shopping;)

[p.dath]

What's a spine protector? Should I get one if I'm learning? i.e. not going over 70 kph

The vast majority of road riders do not use spine protectors (I do). They are often required on a track for those that don't have a one piece race suite, and so those who have attended track days are far more likely to have one.

Weather you need one or not is up to you. You need to consider what you consider to be personally the greater risks, and then address them first (with the exception of a Helmet, but you must use by law).

[Steven]

Ok cool. I live in a rural area so there's not too many people who I'll hold up. But yeah thanks to everyone. It's amazing what I do and don't need. I look forward to riding with some of you... As long as I get that far without crashing.

[Quasievil]

I reckon, "Do it once and do it right". I got cheap gear when I started riding, then went out and bought new better quality gear within six months. Your most likely going to have it a while as well so make sure your gear is comfortable and will last.

Happy shopping;)

Im sure you didnt mean to reference Qmoto as cheap, you will find our specification would almost lead the market.

[Hahn]

Im sure you didnt mean to reference Qmoto as cheap, you will find our specification would almost lead the market.

Haha, no I did not. Sorry for any offence if that's what you read.

I picked up a cheap jacket and helmet on a sale from the local bike shop thinking I would save up and get better gear later. In hind sight I'd go straight for the good stuff, twisted my mates arm to do that too and he's happy.

As a matter of fact I have been looking at your gear. I'm in the market for some leather as it happens. I would love to see your store.

[Quasievil]

Haha, no I did not. Sorry for any offence if that's what you read.

I picked up a cheap jacket and helmet on a sale from the local bike shop thinking I would save up and get better gear later. In hind sight I'd go straight for the good stuff, twisted my mates arm to do that too and he's happy.

As a matter of fact I have been looking at your gear. I'm in the market for some leather as it happens. I would love to see your store.


lol, all good, drop down and see us dude, got a few special deals I can do at the moment.

anytime is a good time after hours is sweet!

cheers

[FROSTY]

How come a new helmet and not 2nd hand?
Its the one item you need to KNOW hasnt been dropped/dammaged so new sorts it -The side affect too is you will get a brand new unscratched visor--allways a good thing

And are leather jeans not good enough for protection?
The point with cudura is that its shower/rain proof which is a bonus

You'll find some good advice here so keep asking :woohoo:

[p.dath]

And are leather jeans not good enough for protection? Thanks everybody for the help, it's amazing finding a forum that people are nice on and give real advice! :gob:

You need gear purpose designed for motorcycling.

For example, what do you think happens to a metal dome (or metal zip) on jeans as you slide along tar seal at 100km/h? They get super hot. What do you think happens when you metal zipper in your pants heats to red heat?

Also the stitching in motorcycle gear is very particular. If you slide along on a seam, and it wears though, you gear will simply fall off.

Consider this. For every second you slide at 100km/h with no protection you will loose 5mm of flesh. There are a lot of areas on your body where you don't have that much flesh to loose.

I also highly recommend you check the ACC (yes ACC!) web site, especial the Gear Up section, which explains it all.
http://www.rideforever.co.nz/

[Scotty595]

Good advice I was given is buy your gear before the bike and whatever you have left is what you can afford to spend on a bike.

Get gear that fits you right rather than what is cheapest. If it means a cheaper bike then so be it.

[skinman]

I would also add that if you intend to ride on anything but the hottest days a good set of gear will keep you nice & warm. 2nd the comment about boots that cover your ankles as apart from the protection they also stop wind & water. PS the shifter will wreck standard footware, bike boots are built for it.

[Quasievil]

Also the stitching in motorcycle gear is very particular. If you slide along on a seam, and it wears though, you gear will simply fall off.



Good point, our spec

Qrace jackets n pants
we use two rows of Kevlar and one bonded nylon (nylon for the colour match on the outside)

Qrace one piece race
we use three rows kevlar and one bonded nylon

Qstreet
Three rows of bonded nylon

I think thats important, interestingly most makers brands everywhere say "multiple stitched" whatever that means:wacko: