Ktm vs others

[cr125nz]

Well im back after being on holiday for not paying gst and am looking at buying a new bike need some advice as keen to buy a ktm 250 4 stroker
what are the parts like to buy?
how reliable are these as there seems to be shit loads out there on the tracks now.
have been offerd a 2003 model from a mate its had a total rebuild in the motor

[evoetr]

Well im back after being on holiday for not paying gst and am looking at buying a new bike need some advice as keen to buy a ktm 250 4 stroker
what are the parts like to buy?
how reliable are these as there seems to be shit loads out there on the tracks now.
have been offerd a 2003 model from a mate its had a total rebuild in the motor

Good luck with a KTM lol! Compared to Yamaha KTM parts are double the price, also there was a KTM overheating post sometime ago and hydraulic clutch problems.... But at the end of the day most bikes have the same parts on them regardless to the brand so comes down to rider choice.... or colour :p

Just make sure it doesn't smoke or use water.

[little.whittle]

The only thing part that seems to be more expensive for a KTM over jap bikes is brake pads. And they are brembo and you dont have to by them altho they are great haha. Its a myth that ktm bits are more... Ya pay for what you get usualy

[evoetr]

The only thing part that seems to be more expensive for a KTM over jap bikes is brake pads. And they are brembo and you dont have to by them altho they are great haha. Its a myth that ktm bits are more... Ya pay for what you get usualy

Disagree, my brother has a KTM 250 4 stroke and i have a Yamaha. We normally change things at the same time like fork seal etc. His genuine ones were $25 more then my Genuine ones and same with other parts that we have changed.

I guess if you stayed away from Genuine then they might be the same price, but im not sure.

[Drew]

Disagree, my brother has a KTM 250 4 stroke and i have a Yamaha. We normally change things at the same time like fork seal etc. His genuine ones were $25 more then my Genuine ones and same with other parts that we have changed.

I guess if you stayed away from Genuine then they might be the same price, but im not sure.

Find a parts department that dont mind going the extra distance. Get them to find an aftermarket fork seal, then cross reference it to a Suzuki model.

You will get genuine Suzuki ones cheaper, and they are FAR better than the aftermarket critters. I learnt this when I owned my FZR750, and fitted SV650 seals which never blew again.

[evoetr]

Find a parts department that dont mind going the extra distance. Get them to find an aftermarket fork seal, then cross reference it to a Suzuki model.

You will get genuine Suzuki ones cheaper, and they are FAR better than the aftermarket critters. I learnt this when I owned my FZR750, and fitted SV650 seals which never blew again.

Very true, i always carry spare Yamaha brake levers and clutch levers, you will be surprised how many different makes they fit..... we used them on a Honda and a Kawasaki and said was only listed for Yamaha haha!

[cr125nz]

cheers so would it a drama having a ktm? just seems to be more and more of them around these days and the ones i have seen at trail rides dont seem to have problems from what i have seen.

[little.whittle]

cheers so would it a drama having a ktm? just seems to be more and more of them around these days and the ones i have seen at trail rides dont seem to have problems from what i have seen.

We have had 4 KTM's about to be five and we have had not one problem with them other than one freak problem which ktm coverd under warrenty. The hydrolic clutch is really good and self adjusts so it doesnt burn out so easy. WR's are pretty bullet proof too it seems to be a Yamaha thing to have leaky fork seals but thats about it. The WR is probly more trail rider friendly where the KTM is more race ready.

[cave weta]

The only thing part that seems to be more expensive for a KTM over jap bikes is brake pads. And they are brembo and you dont have to by them altho they are great haha. Its a myth that ktm bits are more... Ya pay for what you get usualy


Disagree, my brother has a KTM 250 4 stroke and i have a Yamaha. We normally change things at the same time like fork seal etc. His genuine ones were $25 more then my Genuine ones and same with other parts that we have changed.

I guess if you stayed away from Genuine then they might be the same price, but im not sure.


Find a parts department that dont mind going the extra distance. Get them to find an aftermarket fork seal, then cross reference it to a Suzuki model.

You will get genuine Suzuki ones cheaper, and they are FAR better than the aftermarket critters. I learnt this when I owned my FZR750, and fitted SV650 seals which never blew again.

When was the last time you pulled down a motor or opened up a set of forks or took out wheel bearings and seals and found Suzuki, Yamaha or Kawasaki or KTM written on them- you guys read too many magazines and product brochures. Just go to Saeco and pay 1/4 price for the same bearings and stop woffling:argh:


Motorcycle manufacturers do not make bearings and seals.

[flyingcr250]

When was the last time you pulled down a motor or opened up a set of forks or took out wheel bearings and seals and found Suzuki, Yamaha or Kawasaki or KTM written on them- you guys read too many magazines and product brochures. Just go to Saeco and pay 1/4 price for the same bearings and stop woffling:argh:


Motorcycle manufacturers do not make bearings and seals.

i agree all the bearings and seals are usually made by the same couple of companies and then sold on the the different codes who put thier markup on them and then sold on to the bike shops who then put their own markup on them also (in some cases). things like OEM levers, kickstarts, and other bolt on parts ive found have been almost the same price as the jappa stuff. just recently i changed a piston in my ktm 300 and all up the whole kit cost me $365 that in cluded piston, rings,pin,bearing,an assortment of base gaskets, power valve seals, head gaskets, exhaust gaskets, powervalve cover gaskets and some other gaskets i didnt need and it was all factory KTM stuff. ive had no major problems with my KTM, in fact two of the people i ride with have recently changed to KTM and they love them.

[cave weta]

I just love my Big KTM!

3rd set of sprockets, 4th chain, second set of discs.
second set of grips. 9 or 10 rear tyres. second set of wheel bearings front and rear -more brake pads than I can think of...
and not a single mechanical problem yet!

I havent even touched the valve clearances - getting near 500 hours now...

[little.whittle]

I just love my Big KTM!

3rd set of sprockets, 4th chain second set of discs.
second set of grips. 9 or 10 rear tyres. second set of wheel bearings front and rear -more brake pads than I can think of
and not a single mechanical problem yet!

I havent even touched the valve clearances - getting near 500 hours now...
Perfect example of a good bike!

If its not orange its a lemon ;)

[cr125nz]

cheers if i needed parts i will just pay the cost of genuine just to save problems esp for the motor levers etc not to worried but my main thing is ktm a good bike as will just be used on trial rides or should i stay with honda

[cave weta]

cheers if i needed parts i will just pay the cost of genuine just to save problems esp for the motor levers etc not to worried but my main thing is ktm a good bike as will just be used on trial rides or should i stay with honda

Heres some full stops and commas for you ,,.,.,,.,,,,.,.,,,.- throw a few at your last post before HITCHER sees it!:argh:

[barty5]

When was the last time you pulled down a motor or opened up a set of forks or took out wheel bearings and seals and found Suzuki, Yamaha or Kawasaki or KTM written on them- you guys read too many magazines and product brochures. Just go to Saeco and pay 1/4 price for the same bearings and stop woffling:argh:


Motorcycle manufacturers do not make bearings and seals.

Very ture what you a saying only one problem i have coma across is that KTM do tend to stick in some odd ball bearings which isnt saying the others dont but they do use more of the more common ones. The odd ball ones you will find very hard to get aftermarket as they get them made specifically for them selfs and your local bearing dealer wont have or be able to get.
As for the other stuff there is less aftermarket stuff around for ktm in general in NZ at least for now.

[cr125nz]

would i be able to do a 350 kit in the 250 or is this just mind boggling expense as i have decided to go to ktm and pass on honda so any help in this dept would be great

[barty5]

would i be able to do a 350 kit in the 250 or is this just mind boggling expense as i have decided to go to ktm and pass on honda so any help in this dept would be great

yes you can they are round $2000 plus
oldskool has one

[cr125nz]

cheers barty for that info ;)

[noobi]

would i be able to do a 350 kit in the 250 or is this just mind boggling expense as i have decided to go to ktm and pass on honda so any help in this dept would be great

you can only do that to the single cam RFS engines the 350 kit is around 1000USD from the states. The twin cam ones, 07 and newer, can only oversize to a 280

[IIIRII]

Good luck with a KTM lol! Compared to Yamaha KTM parts are double the price
Good grief another "expert"


how reliable are these as there seems to be shit loads out there on the tracks now.


The fact is the 250 of about that vintage is quite heavy but the single cam engines are very reliable, so if you want it for trail riding etc: Its probably a good bike.
Regardless of what others say, the "facts" are that there are not as many aftermarket parts that are not OEM made for KTMS as there are for Jap bikes.
KTMs build quality is exceptional
Very good bikes

[Keithf]

I don't know if you are entirely impartial.........:-)

KTMs build quality is exceptional
Very good bikes[/QUOTE]

[IIIRII]

Good Point

"MUCH BETTER THAN HUSQVANAS TOO"

:)

[cr125nz]

thanks for the help guys i will be a owner of a ktm for better or worse i guess and learn as i go
but with so many ktms at rides i guess they build quality or they wouldnt be seen as much

[Keithf]

This can't be right Husqvarnas are red they must be better!


Good Point

"MUCH BETTER THAN HUSQVANAS TOO"

:)

[vazza]

thanks for the help guys i will be a owner of a ktm for better or worse i guess and learn as i go
but with so many ktms at rides i guess they build quality or they wouldnt be seen as much

Once you go KTM you'll never go back!

[cave weta]

Once you go KTM you'll never go back!

x2:lol:






10 char

[little.whittle]

Once you go KTM you'll never go back!
So true :2thumbsup

[takitimu]

When was the last time you pulled down a motor or opened up a set of forks or took out wheel bearings and seals and found Suzuki, Yamaha or Kawasaki or KTM written on them- you guys read too many magazines and product brochures. Just go to Saeco and pay 1/4 price for the same bearings and stop woffling:argh:
Motorcycle manufacturers do not make bearings and seals.

Interesting post, You've got me intrigued, what info do you need to give Saeco need in order to get bearings & do they do stuff like steering head ones as well ?.

Regarding KTM, not for me personally, but they are damn fine bikes & I have seen no evidence that the parts are over the top pricing, you won't go wrong with one.

[cave weta]

Interesting post, You've got me intrigued, what info do you need to give Saeco need in order to get bearings & do they do stuff like steering head ones as well ?.

Regarding KTM, not for me personally, but they are damn fine bikes & I have seen no evidence that the parts are over the top pricing, you won't go wrong with one.

Every bearing and every seal has a number on it- even if it cant be read they will just measure it- ask what it is out of- and sell you an equivilant.
They need to know what it is from if they cant read the number because a steering head bearing looks like a Ferrari wheel bearing- but turns a lot slower. They have different clearances and sometimes inbuilt seals that would block you from adding more lubricant - like in a motor and gearbox they are always open to take sump lube , - But in a wheel - they are sealed to keep shit out.

[little.whittle]

Dont quote me on this but i am pretty sure that KTM won every class except for the E1 class. That included all the clubman classes and the overal in both.. :2thumbsup

[green machine]

Am i stuck in a time machine or is Groundhog Day alive and well.......mabye i should join the revolution and get one?

[cave weta]

Am i stuck in a time machine or is Groundhog Day alive and well.......or shall i just join the revolution and get one?

While Suzuki are specialing off brand new unsold 08 RMZs

KTM dealers are on back order for k10 EXCs- what does that tellee?

[green machine]

While Suzuki are specialing off brand new unsold 08 RMZs

KTM dealers are on back order for k10 EXCs- what does that tellee?
That if i want one i'd have to wait too long so i guess i'll just stick with what i've got:2thumbsup

[little.whittle]

While Suzuki are specialing off brand new unsold 08 RMZs

KTM dealers are on back order for k10 EXCs- what does that tellee?

I got the last 200exc 2010:whistle: get it wednsday:2thumbsup

[vazza]

Dont quote me on this but i am pretty sure that KTM won every class except for the E1 class. That included all the clubman classes and the overal in both.. :2thumbsup

Of course KTM did!

Btw congrats on such an awesome finish little.whittie. 2nd in you're class is an awesome achievement. What did you come overall?

[cr125nz]

well will keep you guys uptodate on how it goes after i take it for a ride on the weekend as will put new filter and oil,sprockets,chain.
and a hour meter, what would be the recommended hours for a new piston and rings and cam chain.

[t595]

While Suzuki are specialing off brand new unsold 08 RMZs

KTM dealers are on back order for k10 EXCs- what does that tellee?

Tells me whoever stopped production of 2strokes might be starting to regret it? buy a honda you pretty much have 2 choices,ktm defenitly have the best selection:girlfight:

[barty5]

well will keep you guys uptodate on how it goes after i take it for a ride on the weekend as will put new filter and oil,sprockets,chain.
and a hour meter, what would be the recommended hours for a new piston and rings and cam chain.

if you go on what dealers tell you and the manuals full rebuild at 80hrs btw end included

[noobi]

if you go on what dealers tell you and the manuals full rebuild at 80hrs btw end included

then i guess oldskools ktm should have grenaded twice and cave wetas should have grenaded 7 times?
the single cam RFS is a bullet proof engine, especially the 250s as they share the same head and bottom end as the 530s....

[cr125nz]

well by the comments and feedback i have made the rite choice and thanks for the tips :2thumbsup

[Reckless]

Once you go KTM you'll never go back!

Yep another vote here! Light enough to be easy handling but heavy enough to last well, they seem to have the right balance. Don't forget you have hydraulic clutch, braided lines and brembo brakes standard as well.


Interesting post, You've got me intrigued, what info do you need to give Saeco need in order to get bearings & do they do stuff like steering head ones as well .

Steve At Triple X actually sends me next door to Seaco for bearings. The bits you can't get aftermarket seem well priced at this stage IMHO.


if you go on what dealers tell you and the manuals full rebuild at 80hrs btw end included

Danger also got 400 hours out of his 200exc. I'm doing a piston every 100 hours or once a year just for the sake of it. I haven't taken one out that hasn't measured close enough that I could a put it back in. Mind you they are 2smokers?
You do develop a strange cult feeling towards them, less likely to swap between brands like the japs bikes. Which apparently pisses a lot of people off except for other Ktm owners LOL!!!
Just my 2c

[IIIRII]

then i guess oldskools ktm should have grenaded twice and cave wetas should have grenaded 7 times?
the single cam RFS is a bullet proof engine, especially the 250s as they share the same head and bottom end as the 530s....


According to people who make their living off working on KTM's (not people who read and hear misinterpreted stories from mates of mates)
The single OHC 250 350 450 engines consistantly run into 300+ hrs before they need anything done to them and if they have been looked after often only need a hone and re ringing....

How odd ./...
I would think a rebuilt 250 of that age most likely has had every frame bearing replaced by now too. which is no different than any other bike.
Probably cost AT LEAST TWICE as much to do, but hey .....


:P

[cr125nz]

mint this time next year i will redo the piston and rings glad i have gone to the orange side now.

[FlangMasterJ]

you can only do that to the single cam RFS engines the 350 kit is around 1000USD from the states. The twin cam ones, 07 and newer, can only oversize to a 280

ht-racing.com and thumper-racing.net in the States have had a 350 kit for the twin cam for a while now. Go to ktmtalk and read all the reviews.

If I had the dough I would ship my engine off to get upsized in a flash.

[oldguy]

I can't be fagged reading all the posts, so heres my 2c take it for what its worth.
KTM vs the rest, Take BT101 he got his MX2 title on a KTM, got an AMA title on A Kawasaki, almost got an outdoor title as well. then moved to Honda, and was quick on that, just an old injury forced him out, James Stewart Kawasaki to Yamaha, Chad Reed Yamaha to Suzuki still fast, Mike Alissi fast on a KTM was holeshot king on a Suzuki.
So my thinking is if you are a good rider, it doesn't make a difference what brand bike, most important part is having it setup for you and your riding style.
:wait::wait::wait::wait:

[motor_mayhem]

You do develop a strange cult feeling towards them, less likely to swap between brands like the japs bikes.

No one jumps on the horn so quick about how great their bikes are like KTM owners. They seem to believe they have to justify their purchase maybe?

Personally I have owned all the jap brands and the difference between a good second hand one and a bad second hand one only seems to be how well they have been looked after. You can always find someone who has had a great run out of a brand and someone who has had a terrible run out of the same brand. From what I've seen most new bikes are good. Probably comes down to if you think the local guy, who does parts and service for your brand, is a good sort or a useless c#$@ who will mess you round.

Yeah I have the coffin ready because I know the orange machines lurking here are about to maul me for saying all this.

[green machine]

No one jumps on the horn so quick about how great their bikes are like KTM owners.

Spot on and i find it quite amusing....they are closely followed by 2 stroke riders but as Barty5 once pointed out,they are usually one in the same...................:bleh:

[barty5]

Spot on and i find it quite amusing....they are closely followed by 2 stroke riders but as Barty5 once pointed out,they are usually one in the same...................:bleh:

They usually also have grey hair to.

[FlangMasterJ]

No one jumps on the horn so quick about how great their bikes are like KTM owners. They seem to believe they have to justify their purchase maybe?

Personally I have owned all the jap brands and the difference between a good second hand one and a bad second hand one only seems to be how well they have been looked after. You can always find someone who has had a great run out of a brand and someone who has had a terrible run out of the same brand. From what I've seen most new bikes are good. Probably comes down to if you think the local guy, who does parts and service for your brand, is a good sort or a useless c#$@ who will mess you round.

Yeah I have the coffin ready because I know the orange machines lurking here are about to maul me for saying all this.

Totally agree. Get the KTM.

[cave weta]

No one jumps on the horn so quick about how great their bikes are like KTM owners. They seem to believe they have to justify their purchase maybe?

Personally I have owned all the jap brands and the difference between a good second hand one and a bad second hand one only seems to be how well they have been looked after. You can always find someone who has had a great run out of a brand and someone who has had a terrible run out of the same brand. From what I've seen most new bikes are good. Probably comes down to if you think the local guy, who does parts and service for your brand, is a good sort or a useless c#$@ who will mess you round.

Yeah I have the coffin ready because I know the orange machines lurking here are about to maul me for saying all this.

Im a little sensitive about becoming like a Harley owner!:blink:
I will never adorn my body or my bedroom with KTM flagsand logos

Although ..... they did put out an orange toaster that toasts the KTM logo into your morning meal!

[B0000M]

Although ..... they did put out an orange toaster that toasts the KTM logo into your morning meal!

that toaster would almost be enought to convince me to buy a ktm, - if it came with a toaster

[Pornstar]

To help you in your decision, check out KTM NZ hard parts catalouge online, DROOL.:love:

[Rupe]

then i guess oldskools ktm should have grenaded twice and cave wetas should have grenaded 7 times?
the single cam RFS is a bullet proof engine, especially the 250s as they share the same head and bottom end as the 530s....

Barty is talking about the SX-F and not the EXC-F.

I was looking at a 07 250 SX-F and heard they need he bottom ends done more than the japs so I rung a dealer and he told me 80hrs would be pushing it. I didn't quite believe him so I rang two more dealers and they told me the same thing, guessed they'd know best as they work on them. This would make the bike very expensive to own for a couple of years compared to a jappa.

I also sat next to Barty and priced up rebuilds top and bottom on a few different 4stroke MX (not enduro) bikes through his trade accounts, and due to the vast amount of choices you have on a jap bike vs a ktm the jap bikes were much cheaper.

This is what Barty is on about, and not your dad's exc. Those sx-f's are ment to be one of the most powerful in the 250 range around 07 hence they need more maintenace. A klx does not need the maintenace a kxf, same thing.

[oldguy]

They usually also have grey hair to. woooooh :rofl::rofl:

[flyingcr250]

They usually also have grey hair to.

funny you should say that, i found a few grey hairs last night when i was having a shave.:gob:

[barty5]

funny you should say that, i found a few grey hairs last night when i was having a shave.:gob:

:bash::bash::bash::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: my point exactly hahahahaah

[flyingcr250]

:bash::bash::bash::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: my point exactly hahahahaah

and im not even any wiser:gob:

[oldskool]

:bash::bash::bash::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: my point exactly hahahahaah

Don't know why you're guffawing Bartz, you aren't short of a few grey hairs either!

[L Rider]

Have just brought Brooklyn his first MX bike (he doesn't know yet) - had to be KTM as they're the only one who does a 50cc mx bike.

[oldskool]

Have just brought Brooklyn his first MX bike (he doesn't know yet) - had to be KTM as they're the only one who does a 50cc mx bike.

YES!!!!!!! :wari::done::woohoo::lol::2thumbsup:hug::rockon: HAHAHAHA

[barty5]

Don't know why you're guffawing Bartz, you aren't short of a few grey hairs either!

sorry mate i dont have any even Rochelle will back me up on that one.

[cr125nz]

done some price checking and found boyds were over the top lol,AMP auckland were ok but the best deal for the parts was demetrys in morrinsville and 2nd was motox parts on the shore so im happy with my new buy and price of parts :niceone:

[cave weta]

done some price checking and found boyds were over the top lol,AMP auckland were ok but the best deal for the parts was demetrys in morrinsville and 2nd was motox parts on the shore so im happy with my new buy and price of parts :niceone:

demetrys- the pet food shop?????- they are KTM dealers now!?:oi-grr:

[Chia]

sorry mate i dont have any even Rochelle will back me up on that one.

Rochelle's a sweet girl, always telling her man what he wants to hear :love:

[barty5]

Rochelle's a sweet girl, always telling her man what he wants to hear :love:

ah come on really its ture

[kezzafish]

Barty is talking about the SX-F and not the EXC-F.

I was looking at a 07 250 SX-F and heard they need he bottom ends done more than the japs so I rung a dealer and he told me 80hrs would be pushing it. I didn't quite believe him so I rang two more dealers and they told me the same thing, guessed they'd know best as they work on them. This would make the bike very expensive to own for a couple of years compared to a jappa.

I also sat next to Barty and priced up rebuilds top and bottom on a few different 4stroke MX (not enduro) bikes through his trade accounts, and due to the vast amount of choices you have on a jap bike vs a ktm the jap bikes were much cheaper.

This is what Barty is on about, and not your dad's exc. Those sx-f's are ment to be one of the most powerful in the 250 range around 07 hence they need more maintenace. A klx does not need the maintenace a kxf, same thing.

all true about mx bike being a bit more sensitive than the enduros but i don't recon you should take advice from dealers unless you know them/ have a relationship with em... he probably thought he was gonna sell you a bottom end.

All I've heard about the SXF range is how reliable they are. Mine never had anything done to the bottom end and is still going strong with it's new owner. It's had one new piston in it's life and that was cos i drowned it and hit the electric start without realising that the breather was sucking water in. That bike has done in excess of 150 hours (2007, 3rd owner)

250 is probably more tempramental still, but

[kezzafish]

ah come on really its ture

better gray than ginger lol, at least mine matches the best bikes tho

[cr125nz]

demetrys- the pet food shop?????- they are KTM dealers now!?:oi-grr:

yip thats the guy cavey.but hes got the hook up in akld sum where as the price for a piston and rings and gasket set were all ktm genuine but a hell of a lot cheaper than boyds,and amps so hes in the no of who and where i guess :niceone:

[vazza]

So where do I get these cheap pistons? I wouldnt mind a genuine one. Need to put a new one in. Selling my KTM.

Anyone keen to buy?

[secondfield]

KTM's are flash, but overrated. No shit. :niceone:

[barty5]

KTM's are flash, but overrated. No shit. :niceone:

Nah just over rated

[cr125nz]

cant comment as have had a cr 125 and crf250r so thought i would try something new so thought i would ktm a go so will keep you posted as how it goes but as a trial rider and not to serious into other racing etc im hopping i made a good choice.:niceone:

[vazza]

cant comment as have had a cr 125 and crf250r so thought i would try something new so thought i would ktm a go so will keep you posted as how it goes but as a trial rider and not to serious into other racing etc im hopping i made a good choice.:niceone:

The majority of us say go KTM. It's only the goon riders who say otherwise :P

Trust us, you wont go wrong.

Cheers for the PM btw.

[motor_mayhem]

The majority of us say go KTM. It's only the goon riders who say otherwise :P


Do you find it difficult to ride a bike with only one eye?

[vazza]

Do you find it difficult to ride a bike with only one eye?

Tried the rest, although I cant ride anyway. Am injured :(

[FlangMasterJ]

I know what my next bike is going to be...............a KTM.

[cr125nz]

never had a ktm before only had a kx125,cr125,crf250 and now a ktm 250 so will be a new bike to learn on no doubt as sure it will be differant to the hondas for riding weight and height

[Pierce]

cheers if i needed parts i will just pay the cost of genuine just to save problems esp for the motor levers etc not to worried but my main thing is ktm a good bike as will just be used on trial rides or should i stay with honda

Come on Dave... Stick with Honda bro! New 250F is fuel injected and will be amazing to ride.

[cr125nz]

Hey Pierce bro will give ktm a try if not good then i will get a new crf just thought i would try a ktm for a change :niceone:
are you going riding this weekend?

[Pierce]

Hey Pierce bro will give ktm a try if not good then i will get a new crf just thought i would try a ktm for a change :niceone:
are you going riding this weekend?

Not entirely sure bout riding this weekend. Got my work xmas party on Sat night so will no doubt be a big night haha

[Drew]

When was the last time you pulled down a motor or opened up a set of forks or took out wheel bearings and seals and found Suzuki, Yamaha or Kawasaki or KTM written on them- you guys read too many magazines and product brochures. Just go to Saeco and pay 1/4 price for the same bearings and stop woffling:argh:


Motorcycle manufacturers do not make bearings and seals.

Woffling?

You would have to concede that there are different qualities of parts, and when it comes to fork seals, Suzuki source good gear.

Arrogance and ignorance so often result in dumb fuckin shit being said.

[cave weta]

You would have to concede that there are different qualities of parts, and when it comes to fork seals, Suzuki source good gear.

Arrogance and ignorance so often result in dumb fuckin shit being said.

Im not discussing how good Suzukis are, or whether different qualities are available:

I am saying that motor cycle manufacturers do not make bearings. and it doesnt matter which brand you buy from a bearing specialist- they will be OEM and good quality. and a hell of a lot cheaper.

I am not dissing you or your bike- just helping out those who dont know.

[Drew]

Im not discussing how good Suzukis are, or whether different qualities are available:

I am saying that motor cycle manufacturers do not make bearings. and it doesnt matter which brand you buy from a bearing specialist- they will be OEM and good quality. and a hell of a lot cheaper.

I am not dissing you or your bike- just helping out those who dont know.

Can you read?

I am saying that there is more than one manufacturer of seals, and there is a difference in how good they are.

Whatever manufacturer of seal Suzuki use, is better than a lot of the others, and they are in fact cheaper through Suzuki than other bike branded ones.

[warewolf]

You would have to concede that there are different qualities of parts.Sure there is, no-one is denying that so don't get your knickers in a twist. However the point is that same-spec stuff as OEM is cheaper at a bearing specialist, no matter how good it is.

Doesn't matter if Suzuki use good gear or not, or whether they are cheaper than another bike-branded part... still be cheaper at a bearing specialist.

[theblacksmith]

Whatever bike u get Dave - make sure it goes up and down hills very fast mate! Birchy will show you how to ride it for a very sensible fee - check his coaching days out.Worth every cent in my opinion dude.

[Danger]

Boy there is alot of KTM haters in here LOL for the amount of KTM's that are out there on the trails.

[4stroke]

probily not so much hater's, more along the line of some people dont like being to continously that there is only one bike to own, and thats a ktm..... some owners tend to be one eyed, mind you every bike brand has its one eyed owners tho, i think the worst on here is ktm and honda owners.
i ride a husky because thats what i like, and i dont like to blend in to the crowd.

[green machine]

probily not so much hater's, more along the line of some people dont like being to continously that there is only one bike to own, and thats a ktm..... some owners tend to be one eyed, mind you every bike brand has its one eyed owners tho, i think the worst on here is ktm and honda owners.
i ride a husky because thats what i like, and i dont like to blend in to the crowd.
Hahaha.....hit the nail on the head there 4stroke

[kezzafish]

probily not so much hater's, more along the line of some people dont like being to continously that there is only one bike to own, and thats a ktm..... some owners tend to be one eyed, mind you every bike brand has its one eyed owners tho, i think the worst on here is ktm and honda owners.
i ride a husky because thats what i like, and i dont like to blend in to the crowd.

It's just a wind up tho innit? there aren't many who are one eyed enough to actually believe that KTM is the one and only worthwhile bike manufacturer... Most of us who say that are only rebutting those who seem to refute KTM's awesomeness

People with Husky's have inadequacy issues that's what i recon... Ha ha haaaaa

[takitimu]

People with Husky's have inadequacy issues that's what i recon... Ha ha haaaaa

Sounds a reasonable plan, 60" TV screen, Double Cab Ute ute, Husky dirt bike :), it all fits.

My read is KTM are the better turning, Husky the better in a straight line. Everything else is pretty much personal preference between the two ( 250EXCF vs TXC250 )

[camchain]

The shining, magnificent splendour of KTM ownership helps to compensate for some of my inadequacies...
(but I sure wish I had a bigger bloody TV lol)

[vazza]

It's just a wind up tho innit? there aren't many who are one eyed enough to actually believe that KTM is the one and only worthwhile bike manufacturer... Most of us who say that are only rebutting those who seem to refute KTM's awesomeness

People with Husky's have inadequacy issues that's what i recon... Ha ha haaaaa

Yeh we're taking the piss. Well I am lol.

But coming off my past bikes, RM250, YZ250, KX250, KX125, RMZ250, CRF250X.. My KTM is by far the preferred bike out of all of them. But its obvious, it all comes down to personal preference. When I go buy a new bike in about 7/8 months time I'm going to consider quite a few brands ;)

I wouldnt mind trying the new RMX450, TXC310, 350SXF, WR250.

[camchain]

Fit bugger like you might be back in action a bit sooner than that vazza. No Husaberg on your 4 stroke shortlist? A fairly high 'powered' rider told me best 450 he's ridden, and don't forget 390 either.

[vazza]

Mate my list goes on, thats a select few.. Planning to have a feel of a 390 around a paddock down at detours pretty soon I hope =)

Yeh cheers bud, operation will be in about febuary. Gotta make sure my leg is 100% before I start riding again though ;)

[chop]

It's just a wind up tho innit? there aren't many who are one eyed enough to actually believe that KTM is the one and only worthwhile bike manufacturer... Most of us who say that are only rebutting those who seem to refute KTM's awesomeness

People with Husky's have inadequacy issues that's what i recon... Ha ha haaaaa


dear oh dear kezza at it again are ya

[4stroke]

krikey kez thats a bit harsh, although i might be happy with my inadequacy's.:cool::cool:

[4stroke]

Yeh we're taking the piss. Well I am lol.

But coming off my past bikes, RM250, YZ250, KX250, KX125, RMZ250, CRF250X.. My KTM is by far the preferred bike out of all of them. But its obvious, it all comes down to personal preference. When I go buy a new bike in about 7/8 months time I'm going to consider quite a few brands ;)

I wouldnt mind trying the new RMX450, TXC310, 350SXF, WR250.

i wouldnt mind have a go on a txc310, i dont use all the power of the 450, and the 310 should be a bit lighter.

[kezzafish]

ha haa, yeah that was aimed at you lloyd, did you notice the subtlety? i'll go back in my hole now... promise... strictly ON topic. Talking about not needing as much power as you think... had a test ride on a 2009 200 EXC the other day ($8000) it was awesome.. gave me a fright when it tried to lift the front wheel over my head. I was positively surprised. So i've now gotta look at 250's AND 200's. I just wish there were more gassers around to test ride

[noobi]

I just wish there were more gassers around to test ride

you seen the 250 motorad have?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-260885211.htm

im trying to find a ktm 200, no one wants to sell me an 09 with 15 hours for $17....:whistle:

[kezzafish]

hey hadn't seen that one. awesome cheers Noobi. It says 250 on the add then it goes on to say its a EC 300 in the blurb. No worries tho. 300 is even betterer. I'll go and see em first thing monday

[noobi]

It says 250 on the add then it goes on to say its a EC 300 in the blurb.

it is a 300, the capacity is written on the swing arm... :lol:

[4stroke]

ha haa, yeah that was aimed at you lloyd, did you notice the subtlety? i'll go back in my hole now... promise... strictly ON topic. Talking about not needing as much power as you think... had a test ride on a 2009 200 EXC the other day ($8000) it was awesome.. gave me a fright when it tried to lift the front wheel over my head. I was positively surprised. So i've now gotta look at 250's AND 200's. I just wish there were more gassers around to test ride

hahaha its all good man, if ya up for desert storm ill swap bikes with ya and and see what ya think, acctually be good to catch up for a burby or 2 m8

[Ride it till the red]

hey hadn't seen that one. awesome cheers Noobi. It says 250 on the add then it goes on to say its a EC 300 in the blurb. No worries tho. 300 is even betterer. I'll go and see em first thing monday

Yeah Dave mentioned today that things were looking up in that department, new bike not far away now then?

Be good to have another rider back. You looked into the 250 four strokes at all? The more I play on mates YZF250's the more I love them....
Not sure I could go back now tho, after finally being able to pass Dave up the Rimu Road hill I think I'm sold on the big 4 banger :woohoo: