Racing for newbies

[Scotty595]

Hey all,

Me/my wife are looking at getting into racing. Don't have a bike to race on yet, but don't know what to get either.

I have full gear (Qmoto 2 Piece suit, Rev' it gloves, Knox Back protector, HJC Helmet, Good boots (can't remember brand))

I haven't done any track days yet (planning on soon but it's a bit hard with work atm. And i don't particularly want to take my road bike (CBR250) on the track (seeing its my only transport))

So basically I am wanting to know where to start in Auckland. I dont have huge amounts of money to throw around so keeping costs low would also be great :D

Any info appreciated

[RDjase]

Hey all,

Me/my wife are looking at getting into racing. Don't have a bike to race on yet, but don't know what to get either.

I have full gear (Qmoto 2 Piece suit, Rev' it gloves, Knox Back protector, HJC Helmet, Good boots (can't remember brand))

I haven't done any track days yet (planning on soon but it's a bit hard with work atm. And i don't particularly want to take my road bike (CBR250) on the track (seeing its my only transport))

So basically I am wanting to know where to start in Auckland. I dont have huge amounts of money to throw around so keeping costs low would also be great :D

Any info appreciated

Buckets is a good way to get into it and learn without spending to much cash

Contact the AMCC for details of there meeting at Mt Wellington kart track. A lot of the auckland people come down to HB for our PMCC meetings

Or you could race your RGV in 150 Street Stock

[Str8 Jacket]

My partner and I both race but we also have many other bikes and cars that need alot of $$ and maintenance along with debt. Last year we did a VMCC winter series as Manfeild is closer, less travelling petrol etc... We choose to both race in Street Stock 150's even though my partner raced and took 2nd place in in next year we could not both afford to race any other class competitively.

Racing is expensive on you wallet and I have seen it hurt relationships in the past when both partners race. Street Stock 150's are alot less expensive than any other class and it is a great development class. We are lucky as 'he' can now rebuild RG's with his eyes closed :whistle:. There are alot of 2nd hand and aftermarket parts available for them.
Both me and my partner are not big on the whole 'image' thing so we drive round in an awesome old school white van that we can sleep in and pack the bikes in. Our bikes could certainly have taken the prize out for "most ugliest displayed team" and well I am not going to start on 'his' boots... we were there to race not win supermulletmodel of the year!

Last year a set of tyres lasted me all season and will keep going. My partner got 2 years out of his but lets not mention that... I spent about $900 at the beggining of the year on a rebuild of my bike but other than entry fees, licencing, petrol, food, accomodation, tyres, oil etc etc its really cheap!!

I could go on for hours but really I do highly recommend it and I also recommend starting out on a cheaper bike in a class where you can learn lots. It's worth saving for 6 months and racing for 6 months just to get that buzz!!!

[woodyracer]

like jaosn said, get a bucket {about 800 $1000} and go racing, if you go on the AMCC website you can call john conner the bucket racing guru.

Or you can come to streetstock 150 which is abit more expensive, just depends on what you like. -max

[Str8 Jacket]

Ah yes, Bucket racing is awesome too! Me and my partner share my FXR to race and I commute on it during the week. Cheaps as au! :D

[woodyracer]

Ah yes, Bucket racing is awesome too! Me and my partner share my FXR to race and I commute on it during the week. Cheaps as au! :D

it sure is, my first bucket was $500..and if i wasnt young and wanting to be compeditive i would of kept it and still raced it.......now thats cheap for a heck of alot of fun!!!

In buckets it can be expensive to be compeditive{in auckland anyway} because most of your compeditors will have {fxr150 or similar,another set of rims with wet tires,slicks,mods ect..} but if you just want to have fun and tag along at the back of the back its dirt cheap!

In some cases ss150 is cheaper than buckets....as a rg150 is normanly cheaper than a fxr150....

[sharky]

Come along to Puke this weekend if you're after a bit more speed than the classes the others have mentioned. I'm #277 in F3, come and find me and ask all the questions you want. My bike cost me $2500. To race for a year - say 12 meetings, would cost me probably $3000 all up. The key is to try and get someone else to cover as much of that cost as possible - sponsors are you out there?:shifty:
But mate, be warned it is seriously addictive:yes:

[Str8 Jacket]

But mate, be warned it is seriously addictive:yes:

Fark yeah! See if the missus will be just as keen to be pit bitch/brolley dolly for you instead and save some $$... :laugh:

[Scotty595]

Come along to Puke this weekend if you're after a bit more speed than the classes the others have mentioned. I'm #277 in F3, come and find me and ask all the questions you want. My bike cost me $2500. To race for a year - say 12 meetings, would cost me probably $3000 all up. The key is to try and get someone else to cover as much of that cost as possible - sponsors are you out there?:shifty:
But mate, be warned it is seriously addictive:yes:

Will see if i can. What days/times

[Scotty595]

Fark yeah! See if the missus will be just as keen to be pit bitch/brolley dolly for you instead and save some $$... :laugh:

Hahaha, dont think that will be happening.

[Scotty595]

So does anyone have any buckets/SS150's for sale at a reasonable price that will do me well for a while?

[Str8 Jacket]

Hahaha, dont think that will be happening.

Good to hear! :niceone:

Once you start racing, you'll find the $$ you need to get out there each round! Go hard!

[Duke girl]

Exactly what has been said above. As you build up your confidence the more and more you get out onto the track and your money can eventually be stretched a little further as time goes on then you yourself will know what bike you can eventually move up to if you ever decide to persue your Racing to the next level.
I am a great believer in starting at the bottom of the ladder to see how things pan out and then moving up the ladder as things allow you too.
I guess it doesn't matter what you Race just the feeling off being out there amongst all the other Riders who have the same passion is an Awesome experience.
Goodluck in whatever decision you make and enjoy it.

[CookMySock]

Come along and meet the minimoto people and have a wee ride. Bikes are under $200, family memberships are $100, trackdays are $20.. and it's FUN.

Steve

[Foxzee]

Fark yeah! See if the missus will be just as keen to be pit bitch/brolley dolly for you instead and save some $$... :laugh:

So we will be seeing you in next to nothing holding the brolly next winter series eh...LOL....

On the serious note get involved with your local club for you it will be AMCC...they are a great bunch of people. Go along to club nights and talk...talk...talk...network. There is so much knowledge and experience there to assist you and point you in right directions. AMCC do a wide range of training so go join NOW....

Like has been mentioned Buckets is also a real cool step into low level racing..again AMCC can help you along these lines. As every racer will tell you they have started at the bottom...raped the overdraft....not eaten because the bike needs something...:yes: but have found affordable ways to to both and enjoy it....

Good on you guys for wanting to do this. Wish you all the best and hope that we see you at a track soon.

Dee
VP Racing - VMCC

OK Chris C - I'll put the bill in the mail for the plug....LOL

[woodyracer]

[QUOTE=Scotty595;1129558373]So does anyone have any buckets/SS150's for sale at a reasonable price that will do me well for a while?[/QUOTE

this bike is a good start, i know the owners, there nice people and will help you out.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-257715717.htm

[Scotty595]

[QUOTE=Scotty595;1129558373]So does anyone have any buckets/SS150's for sale at a reasonable price that will do me well for a while?[/QUOTE

this bike is a good start, i know the owners, there nice people and will help you out.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-257715717.htm

Thanks for that. Im really gutted as i just sold my RGV, never thought about racing until recently and now wish i didnt sell it :s

[Scotty595]

Okay,

So say I went and bought a RG150/KR150 - for example This (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-257827442.htm) or This (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-258183301.htm). I would be able to jump straight into SS150? What modifications need to be made to get on the track? Where are SS150's held in auckland? what are costs etc?

[Scotty595]

So we will be seeing you in next to nothing holding the brolly next winter series eh...LOL....

On the serious note get involved with your local club for you it will be AMCC...they are a great bunch of people. Go along to club nights and talk...talk...talk...network. There is so much knowledge and experience there to assist you and point you in right directions. AMCC do a wide range of training so go join NOW....

Like has been mentioned Buckets is also a real cool step into low level racing..again AMCC can help you along these lines. As every racer will tell you they have started at the bottom...raped the overdraft....not eaten because the bike needs something...:yes: but have found affordable ways to to both and enjoy it....

Good on you guys for wanting to do this. Wish you all the best and hope that we see you at a track soon.

Dee
VP Racing - VMCC

OK Chris C - I'll put the bill in the mail for the plug....LOL

Thanks for that. I am super keen to get out as soon as possible even if its on a $200 bike :p I really want to just get out there and experience it all.

[Foxzee]

Okay,

So say I went and bought a RG150/KR150 - for example This (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-257827442.htm) or This (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-258183301.htm). I would be able to jump straight into SS150? What modifications need to be made to get on the track? Where are SS150's held in auckland? what are costs etc?

Good bikes....some will hiss at me...LOL....

Just going back to basics you will need to join a club and to race at all permitted MNZ events you have to apply for a MNZ Race Licence go to www.mnz.co.nz. You can find all specs on bikes that are required and the online MNZ log book. It contains everything you need to know from safety gear to flags....conduct of meetings etc...

PM me if you want to discuss through things more than happy to help........

Dee

[Scotty595]

Would This (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=112125) make a decent very cheap track bike to learn the basics on?

[sharky]

Will see if i can. What days/times

Racing both Sat and Sun. About 11am-4:30pm.

Unfortunately SS150 is not run in Auckland due to Puke being a very fast track, you'd just have it pinned the whole way around.

[CookMySock]

Would This (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=112125) make a decent very cheap track bike to learn the basics on?...rolls dice, ...measures piece of string.. I'd say a definite maybe.

Basically you can't tell. If you manage to fix it yourself then good.. but how long for... Perhaps it would be ok if you didn't want to cane it within an inch of its' life, but the 400 inlines are certainly fun bikes to have on a track.

Steve

[woodyracer]

Racing both Sat and Sun. About 11am-4:30pm.

Unfortunately SS150 is not run in Auckland due to Puke being a very fast track, you'd just have it pinned the whole way around.

the ss150's have a better top speed than pretty much all the 250 twins but they run them......and ive seen classic bikes than will only do 100km/h going around puke.......a good ss150 will do 180km/h......

[Henk]

Since you're in auckland, unless you want to do a lot of travelling I'd discount SS to start with. Buckets run at Mt Welly 10 or 11 months of the year. Next met down there is on the weekend of the 20th. Turn up and have a look, the racing might not be as fast as other classes but it is still good fun close racing. If you want to talk things through just wander up to any random there, if you're not that comfortable confronting complete strangers I'll be there with at least one bike, probably two. Number 13 on on and 113 on the other at this stage but may both be 113 by then, need to change numbers for Taupo. Bikes are both Mitre 10 metalic blue parked by a ratty old white econovan. Bring your gear, if you're keen and the bikes are running OK you might even get a couple of look laps at the end of the day.

[Scotty595]

Since you're in auckland, unless you want to do a lot of travelling I'd discount SS to start with. Buckets run at Mt Welly 10 or 11 months of the year. Next met down there is on the weekend of the 20th. Turn up and have a look, the racing might not be as fast as other classes but it is still good fun close racing. If you want to talk things through just wander up to any random there, if you're not that comfortable confronting complete strangers I'll be there with at least one bike, probably two. Number 13 on on and 113 on the other at this stage but may both be 113 by then, need to change numbers for Taupo. Bikes are both Mitre 10 metalic blue parked by a ratty old white econovan. Bring your gear, if you're keen and the bikes are running OK you might even get a couple of look laps at the end of the day.

I might just have to come and have a look. I have that day off so will be awesome :D Infact I have booked it in my calendar now

[sharky]

the ss150's have a better top speed than pretty much all the 250 twins but they run them......and ive seen classic bikes than will only do 100km/h going around puke.......a good ss150 will do 180km/h......

Don't shoot the messenger bro - just stating that the don't run SS at Puke and if they did it would be booooring.......:bye:

[woodyracer]

Don't shoot the messenger bro - just stating that the don't run SS at Puke and if they did it would be booooring.......:bye:


sorry, im with you on that one, ss150 would be huge in auckland, maybe it will take off when the AMCC start using hampton downs.

Dont worry about that woodyracer fella he's a loose cannon.....:angry:

[Shorty_925]

Here's a bucket bike for you:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=254305106

[woodyracer]

Here's a bucket bike for you:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=254305106

thats your dads bike aye? that bike is quick and with the current owner it keeps up with fxr150's!! :shit:

[Shorty_925]

Yes its his, though has another work in progress for a ride so the GL is moving on...once someone buys it!

[Scotty595]

Thanks for all the info guys.

Okay so looking at all the info I will probably be getting bucket. I would like to get one in the auckland area if possible - is this possible or am i asking too much :p. It just seems a little pointless to buy a $600 bike then spend $300-400 shipping it to auckland (unless anyone knows a cheap way to get one up?)

Hopefully I can get one for wifey as a christmas pressie, so roll on the suggestions :D

[RDjase]

The TRRS(Taupo road race spectacular ) is on the 27th and 28th Dec. Well worth a look and there is a huge bucket feild, there may be some bikes for sale there, leathers and gear is usaully for sale too

www.roadracespectacular.4t.com

[woodyracer]

last i heard murray pattern is selling his super-bucket {extrmemly well set-up fxr150} there is bound to be a bike for sale at mt wellington on the 19th

[Scotty595]

last i heard murray pattern is selling his super-bucket {extrmemly well set-up fxr150} there is bound to be a bike for sale at mt wellington on the 19th

I got down to mt welly over the weekend. Managed to get out on the track on Henk's bucket and also the club bucket. Had an absolutely awesome time. Got a lot faster and binned it once, Was going round a corner and hit my toe on the ground, which seemed to make the rear tire lose traction and I then proceeded to slide along the track. :Oops:

All in good fun though. So now... I need a bucket.

Couldn't find any for sale over the weekend :(

Any more details on the super-bucket, FXR? could be keen.

[Pumba]

Last time I saw Murray I was lead to believe he had sold the bike already