Canada Superbike Championship

[Cajun]

Interested just read an arctile that yamaha was pulling his support of canada national race series.

So in turn r1's have been banned from the superbike classes.



"YZF-R1 Models No Longer Approved for Pro Superbike Feature

Toronto, ON – Among the agenda items for today’s meeting of the Parts Canada Superbike Championship Road Race Management Group was an explanation regarding the status of Yamaha models in the 2010 National Championship. With the opening day of the winter Canadian Motorcycle Show season slated for the downtown Toronto Convention Centre this Friday, December 11, series organizers considered it essential to immediately clarify the rules for next season.

In November, Yamaha Canada announced that they were withdrawing from the National tour, both in terms of series support and rider/team involvement. Previously, the six major manufacturers directly involved in the Parts Canada Superbike Championship contributed equally to the series structure, including support of the television broadcast package.

At the meeting, the following items were specified for the 2010 Parts Canada Superbike Championship:

1. No 2010, new model OE Yamahas will be allowed to participate in any of the series classes;

2. The 1000cc Yamaha YZF-R1 model, in all years of production, will not be allowed to compete in the Pro Superbike class. No such restrictions will apply to existing 600cc YZF-R6 models.

“Our biggest concern is the privateer or club level racer with existing Yamaha equipment,” confirmed Colin Fraser of the series organizers, Professional Motorsports Productions. “The vast majority of Yamaha riders utilize 600s, and we agreed that it was in everyone’s best interests to allow these existing machines to continue to compete.”

Organizers added that they plan, and look forward to, reinstating Yamaha in the Feature category when the manufacturer is able to return to participate in the Parts Canada Superbike Championship Series.

Teen-aged sensation Jodi Christie earned the 2008 Armour Bodies Amateur 600 Sport Bike National Championship aboard a Yamaha YZF-R6. Linnley Clarke and Pascal Picotte took Yoshimura Pro 600 Sport Bike crowns aboard Yamaha 600cc production bikes."

Found -> http://www.cdnsuperbike.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2023&Itemid=136
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Its an interesting concept that, you pay to help for the sport, or your bikes not allowed to race.

[steveyb]

Sounds like sour grapes, pure and simple.
Pretty small minded, on the face of it.
Could be plenty of other issues behind the scenes of course.

[woodyracer]

didnt honda pull out there racing team a couple of years ago?


were lucky we dont have to put up with crap like that in nzsbk,

[Toast]

It does seem very unfair on the privateers who have gone and bought R1s to race, but from the text it seems that the series and all media exposure of it is paid for by the major distributors, so why should Yamaha get coverage of their bikes paid for by their rivals?

Hardly freedom of choice for the racers, but I’m sure that they want tv coverage, price money, etc…someone (distributors) have found a mutually beneficial way to get the racers a quality series and also market their products. If one of those major stakeholders pulls out funding, then fair enough that the other manufacturers tell them to jump.

[JJ58]

Hey Guys,

Yeah being a racer over here at this time is really interesting. PMP, who runs the Canadian National Series, is owned and run by a member who is on the DMG and the AMA board, and he's wanting to run road racing in Canada like NASCAR in the states, hence the power and weight restrictions (costly restrictions to add to that too).

Basically the series rules are made by those who pay the most (mainly Buell).

Racing here is run a lot different to that in NZ (not for the better I might add). Racing is run like a business, and the organisers must make money, and with having rights for the premier series, it's race this way or don't race in Canada at all.

So for a race to be run there must be gate admissions, and the manufacturers who participate in the racing must pay a fee to have their bikes race (the fee covers promotion and TV costs). Therefore for example if Suzuki doesn't pay (which to date they haven't) then their bikes are not elidgible.... WHich is what has happened in Yamaha's case, and it's put a lot of privateers out of the series for 2010.

So, since 2008 (when I was first involved in racing here) a number of "satelitte teams" (which are more factory teams in terms of NZ classification) have had funding pulled from the factories, classes have been changed at the last minute (so that people have to buy new bikes to compete), factory teams are now something that people can buy into (ie, if you want a "factory ride" then you can hand over money to get there......Albiet other than two factory racers, who realy earned their way there), great race tracks have been bounced off the schedule as the tracks won't bend on rental price, silly rules are being changed to make it more expensive for the privateer and in favour of factory race teams (the two of them) and close racing production classes have been dropped so that more riders are forced into the premier classes (at a much higher cost).

....It seems like the rules changing to be the opposite of what you'd expect to see in tuff economic times.

There's just a lot of petty stuff happening here, which turns me off road racing here and I wish I was back in NZ, as the road racing organisation in NZ is pretty damn good in comparison!!

Anyway, that's my rant about this.

[Cajun]

Anyway, that's my rant about this.

Cool thanks JJ, interesting getting point of view from over there.

DMG is evil, ruining the AMA.

[steveyb]

Hey JJ.
Yeah all that sounds pretty tough.
We have our own issues here of course, but it really looks like ours are much more handlable (such a word???) than what you describe.
It is a shame when vested interests manage to get a hold of things and organise them to suit their own ends when those ends are not in the best interests of the majority.
Go enjoy the snow eh hosehead and get some back-bacon and a brewski.

Steve

[cowpoos]

Interested just read an arctile that yamaha was pulling his support of canada national race series.

So in turn r1's have been banned from the superbike classes.



"YZF-R1 Models No Longer Approved for Pro Superbike Feature

Toronto, ON – Among the agenda items for today’s meeting of the Parts Canada Superbike Championship Road Race Management Group was an explanation regarding the status of Yamaha models in the 2010 National Championship. With the opening day of the winter Canadian Motorcycle Show season slated for the downtown Toronto Convention Centre this Friday, December 11, series organizers considered it essential to immediately clarify the rules for next season.

In November, Yamaha Canada announced that they were withdrawing from the National tour, both in terms of series support and rider/team involvement. Previously, the six major manufacturers directly involved in the Parts Canada Superbike Championship contributed equally to the series structure, including support of the television broadcast package.

At the meeting, the following items were specified for the 2010 Parts Canada Superbike Championship:

1. No 2010, new model OE Yamahas will be allowed to participate in any of the series classes;

2. The 1000cc Yamaha YZF-R1 model, in all years of production, will not be allowed to compete in the Pro Superbike class. No such restrictions will apply to existing 600cc YZF-R6 models.

“Our biggest concern is the privateer or club level racer with existing Yamaha equipment,” confirmed Colin Fraser of the series organizers, Professional Motorsports Productions. “The vast majority of Yamaha riders utilize 600s, and we agreed that it was in everyone’s best interests to allow these existing machines to continue to compete.”

Organizers added that they plan, and look forward to, reinstating Yamaha in the Feature category when the manufacturer is able to return to participate in the Parts Canada Superbike Championship Series.

Teen-aged sensation Jodi Christie earned the 2008 Armour Bodies Amateur 600 Sport Bike National Championship aboard a Yamaha YZF-R6. Linnley Clarke and Pascal Picotte took Yoshimura Pro 600 Sport Bike crowns aboard Yamaha 600cc production bikes."

Found -> http://www.cdnsuperbike.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2023&Itemid=136
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Its an interesting concept that, you pay to help for the sport, or your bikes not allowed to race.
They should ban Honda too!! fags bikes.

[WarrenW]

EPIC Fail - check the sponsors link on their website !!!
http://www.cdnsuperbike.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=79&Itemid=83

[JJ58]

No worries guys. It'll be interesting to see what happens over the next few weeks. The Suzuki's outsourced factory team has pulled out to help run teenage sensation Brett McCormick in AMA SB. Suzuki is still a sponsor, but rumour has it that they may pull out completely for 2010. Kawasaki has pulled out of AMA, and is in threat of doing the same in Canada. They haven't re-signed Jordan Szoke as of yet, so we'll see what happens.

Honda sponsor the series, but most of that sponsorship is in the CBR125 class and they only provide minor support to 600 and SB riders.

Canada is an example of what happens when your racing system relies too much on manufacturers and not the riders. Riders forget that racing is meant to be fun and they get caught up in the hype, marketing and wanting the best machinary to compete with the factory machines. Now it's reached a point where no one can race with out some sort of factory support, which is being pulled....

.....I say get back to the good old days of racing where it was more affordable (longer lasting tires/bikes etc).

Anyway, it's about to go into ice racing season, so I'm prepping for that. With the warm weather we're having the ice isn't quite ready yet (it hasn't even snowed yet)....There's not
so much hype with the ice racing, as no spectator wants to stand on a frozen lake in -10C.

Have fun!!

[jackski]

One of the big problems here in the Great White Frozen North is that it's a BIG country, lots of space and nearly 5000mi from one end to the other. Hence since the early 80's, the promotors of racing / factories / tire manufacturers, here have wanted bigger cc classes. Big heavy four strikes = lots of parts use = good for business, that us until the economic bubble bursts. Smaller cc classes barely exist here now and are not promoted. Because of that, we are faced with a situation where we have NO young riders. The excuses seem to be, it's too expensive (as above) and the bikes, 600's and 1000's, are too fast so parents don't want their kids to be involved. So all you get is maybe one or two talented kids on 600's.
Looks almost like the death of racing here .