That's it for me...

[mtroskill]

well I think I've just had my last ride...

my 1month old sv650 was taken out by a drunk driver doing 80+k (2 witnesses/ cars were also sideswipped) on the wrong side of the road along mission bay earlier this evening.

there was nothing at all I could have done, and I'm just glad I'm here to tell the tale.

I'm hoping the bikes a write off (the front forks are at 90 degrees, fairing all buggered and all levers on left hand side gone), i'm taking walking away from today's accident as a message to quit while I'm ahead...

I think the the only way I could have got out of it was by going over the top of the bonnet or bouncing off to the left, the witnesses saw the bike go under the cars wheels. The guy was 555d by another car he overtook shortly beforehand along tamaki drive ... the cops caught him down the road after he did a runner and he has been done for dui, careless driving and failing to stop probably among others.

Thankful that I was wearing my draggin jeans as the kevlar did it's job, as well as my new shark rsr2 helmet (bugger...hopefully get that covered with insurance too).

I always thought you were the master of your own destiny to a certain extent but nothing I could have done with an oncoming car speeding in my lane.

Sorry if this isn't very coherent, but yea pretty crazy couple of hours

[Leviticus]

Glad to hear you ok. Thank fuck for protective gear

[The Everlasting]

Yeah it sucks,there are some drunken maniacs out there!!


but good to hear your okay. Hope you get an insurance payout!!

[Hitcher]

Thank fuck for protective gear

And good fortune. I suspect that this has more to answer for than good gear.

[cowboyz]

thats a shocker. good to hear you got away ok.

[Macontour]

Good to hear you are ok even if a little battered. Sad about the bike though.

[The Everlasting]

And good fortune. I suspect that this has more to answer for than good gear.



Yeah was thinking that myself,no matter how much gear you have,your never invincible when riding on the road.

[Leviticus]

Yeah was thinking that myself,no matter how much gear you have,your never invincible when riding on the road.

but training shoes and jogging trousers would have been a different story, that's all i was meaning

[The Everlasting]

but training shoes and jogging trousers would have been a different story, that's all i was meaning


Yeah true,I have seen dudes riding on the motorway wearing nothing but a helmet,shorts,shirt and jandals.

[caseye]

Very pleased to hear you are Ok, maybe quitting while you are ahead isn't a bad idea. If you felt unsafe and insecure riding again then it would only make things worse for you then. On the other hand take a big breath, Wait and see what has happened to the bike and your gear. Sue the barstards Nuts off for your gear and the accident No ACC anymore they're an Insurance company and have a ball on the prick.
Really glad to hear you! r alright.

[klingon]

Wow! Good work to be walking away from that!

Despite "walking away" you haven't mentioned any injuries - have you been checked out? Best to schedule a day off work tomorrow if you can... the day after something like that you're going to be pretty sore!

Also look after yourself - I'm one of those hippies that recommends arnica for a bruised body and Rescue Remedy for the stress! I have no idea if it works but I'm sure it doesn't do any harm.

And how about leaving it for a bit longer before making a permanent decision about your riding future. Deal with insurance etc then see how you feel about it all.

[FROSTY]

My advice to you is don't make any major decisions for a few days. and have someone keep an eye on ya for a few hours.

[Genestho]

Glad you're here to tell the tale mate. :niceone:
Good to read *555 has worked again.

Make sure you get involved in the process, write everything down, write a victim impact statement, don't be fobbed off.

It would be a real pity to let this ruin your groove, but I have seen it before. Take time and care of yourself.

Goodluck.

[NewRob]

Glad to hear that you are OK. Better have a check up and be safe. So sorry about your bike. Good that the cop got the guy. Don't give up on biking, this things happen when we got drunk/idiot fuckers driving around. Cheers.

[Katman]

"There was nothing I could do" is such a cop-out.

[Pussy]

Glad you got out of it okay!
ANOTHER fuggin drink/drive knob.... FFS, when WILL the message get through?
Don't make hasty decisions about giving up... a loser drunk driver should not rob you of a passion.

[CookMySock]

Farrrken larrrky bro..... A rollercoaster you can't get off...


My advice to you is don't make any major decisions for a few days. and have someone keep an eye on ya for a few hours.I agree. Didn't the ambo people look you over? Surely..

They will write that bike off for sure.

Yeah don't make any big decisions.. just get some rest and sit back for a month or so.. Consider you could have been WORSE off if you were in a car..

Steve

[Genestho]

"There was nothing I could do" is such a cop-out.
OI, don't you dare ... :nono: you may not have had a drunk weaving at high speed at you before. Hope you never do.

[FROSTY]

"There was nothing I could do" is such a cop-out.
Sorry dude you know there are occassions that your option list drops to zero too fast to do owt about it.
Just to paint a picture for ya -Tamiki drive ...stArt with 150mm vertical kerbstones. Park cars on either side of the road so its a pretty narrow road with zip escape routes. There are also a fair few blind corners.

[Grumpy]

"There was nothing I could do" is such a cop-out.

Fuck me .... this soapbox is getting a little old.

Mtroskill, sorry to hear about the accident but real glad your okay.

[DIN PELENDA]

Glad to hear you OK, as for last ride I say don't let this put you off riding. I know is a shock and lot of us are gone threw this. Lot of my friends got hit by cars and lot of them are beck on they bikes. Twelve years-ego I was hit by car turning in they driveway from other side I end up hitting road curve and stop under parked car, took me few weeks to get beck on bike but since is being good Twelve years of riding. Anyway is your life is your call, just as Frosty say it don't make any decision yet, but it is part of bikers life regardless are you on road, dirt or track. Take care.

[mtroskill]

yea, I will probably mull it over while the insurance payment comes through... although the gf has made me commit to calling it quits..

police and ambo attended scene and the guy was arrested further along tamaki drive, two other cars were swiped and witnessed it too so I can't see there being any insurance problems.

Probably making a bit of a war story out of it, but the car in front called ambo straight away as he reckoned I was a goner so must be some luck involved.

See how I scrub up tomorrow, but at this stage just abrasions and stiff wrist, neck and knee.

I agree that, practicing avoidence techniques etc may have lessoned the impact Katman, but i don't think i could have avoided it altogether

Stay safe out there ... silly season is obviously in full swing.

[Qkkid]

Sorry dude you know there are occassions that your option list drops to zero too fast to do owt about it.
Just to paint a picture for ya -Tamiki drive ...stArt with 150mm vertical kerbstones. Park cars on either side of the road so its a pretty narrow road with zip escape routes. There are also a fair few blind corners.

Well said Frosty
Anything you walk away from without injury on a bike is a good escape:niceone:
On a bike its a matter of when not if........ something goes wrong. All you can do is take care of those odds and treat everyone on the road as a idiot only you can look after yourself no one else will.
Glad your alright mate and your not in hospital.:msn-wink:

[trailblazer]

glad to hear that you are alright. Bloody drunk drivers there should be zero tolerance for the bastards.

[hayd3n]

a miracle that you are unhurt!!!
biking is a enjoyment that i cant refuse.
i crashed into a bank around a blind corner hit gravel lost it into the bank and flew at least 8m
i walked away unscathed
my bikes all back together 9damm 3rd party),im glad the bank was soft
at the time i was considering to give upbiking ,
it took my 3 days too look at my bike
time heals
take the time to appreciate the small things.
and i hope the fuck head that hit you gets what is coming to him

[Dr Death]

Hey mate, im glad you are ok & still here to tell the tale. Bikes can be replaced as we know, people can't. My mate was in a fatal motorcycle accident yesterday in North Canterbury. He was'nt so lucky as he passed away in the chopper on the way to hospital. Being there was so hard, as seeing one of your own being involved in a fatality is a big ask.

Euan "Rest in Peace, Forever in our hearts & never forgotten"

[Nasty]

I am also glad you are ok ... there are risks we take in life ... and those include waking ... When we ride we take another risk and some of us have learnt that comes with consequences - sometimes unforeseen - sometimes understood. Make your decisions with time, let your body and mind heal and work through things as only you can. Make sure as you do you talk it through with your partner ... as those risks that we accept are ones that we also expect our partners and loved ones to know we have chosen.

I understand your partners fears - and have unfortunately like others here experienced them ... take your time, make wise and well thought out decisions.

btw - you will properly hurt a little more today and tomorrow that comes with coming off - and being able to walk away.

[shafty]

Bloody hell Mtroskill - well done, - great to hear you're OK. The sore bits will get sorererer, gauranteed and a checkup is a good precaution for later on - ACC claims and all that.

All the V best

Shafty

[Dodgyiti]

yea, I will probably mull it over while the insurance payment comes through... although the gf has made me commit to calling it quits...


Mull it over a few weeks before you agree to anything. Your going to be sore for a while, hang in there.

Katman's comment was pretty negative but when everything settles down in your mind and you can properly go over what happened there may have been something you could have done differently and learn from it. For a start I would ditch the Draggin Jeans for better protection gear.

[hayd3n]

btw - you will properly hurt a little more today and tomorrow that comes with coming off - and being able to walk away.

yeah it took 2 days for me to feel any pain
3rd and 4th day was pretty sore. the old bones dont like impact that hard its like being hit by tua all over

[Trudes]

Glad you're ok, sounds like you were bloody lucky, hope the insurance comes through for you.

[riffer]

Before throwing away bikes completely, try looking at it from this perspective.

How easily would it have been to avoid the accident had you been driving your car?

Some idiots can't be helped. My first motorcycle accident happened the same way, except it was a drunk going the wrong way down a one-way street with no lights. In my case, I swerved to avoid him, and went up the kerb and into a lamp-post (possibly target fixating on it looking for an out - I still have a stuffed neck 25 years later). He kept going straight through and missed the corner and drove straight ahead into a house. Go figure.

Help soon and as Frosty said, don't make any crucial decisions for a couple of days.

[DemonWolf]

Take it easy for a few weeks. Go back to doctors if the pain in your neck and knee get too much... dependant on bruising, nice relaxing baths will help

[Tank]

"There was nothing I could do" is such a cop-out.


Sorry dude you know there are occassions that your option list drops to zero too fast to do owt about it.

Katman The best way to dilute your message is to apply it to every situation despite how ridicilious it is and believe you are right knowing - despite it being very clear that there was nothing that the rider could do to people who know the area.

Then people just think of you as a uninformed usless halfwit that dribbles out the same line over and over like a trained chimp.

Good message - but perhaps save it for threads where it may be appropiate.

[Katman]

Good message - but perhaps save it for threads where it may be appropiate.

"There was nothing at all I could have done" - indicates an unwillingness to even consider whether anything could have been done differently to avoid the accident.

"I don't know what else I could have done" - indicates the person is prepared to consider whether they could have done something different.

See the difference?

[mtroskill]

Care to demonstrate avoidance techniques for cars overtaking and speeding in your lane around the apex of a corner Katman? I'm keen to see how the pros do it.

[Tank]

"There was nothing at all I could have done" - indicates an unwillingness to even consider whether anything could have been done differently to avoid the accident.

"I don't know what else I could have done" - indicates the person is prepared to consider whether they could have done something different.

See the difference?

It shows that you assumed that he had not considered other options before coming to the conclusion that he couldnt have done anything else.

[R1madness]

Sorry to hear that this dork has chosen to take you away from motorcycling.
Dont be put off too much mate, you lived to tell the tail, imaging the story you can tell your kids.... and be the hero to them, the man that survived.... Life is not without its adventures mate, its how we deal with them that determines who we are.

Claim on your riding gear under your household insurance as its not generally covered buy your bike insurance, or list it under your bike claim so that your insurance company can claim it off the driver.

Good luck with the future buddy no matter what you decide long term....

[RavenR44]

"There was nothing at all I could have done" - indicates an unwillingness to even consider whether anything could have been done differently to avoid the accident.

"I don't know what else I could have done" - indicates the person is prepared to consider whether they could have done something different.

See the difference?

The difference is semantic. The phrase "I don't know what else I could have done" suggests to me he'd since thought about the subject and couldn't come up with any alternative option, even with the benefit of hindsight.

It in no way "indicates an unwillingness to even consider whether anything could have been done differently to avoid the accident" and for you to claim that it does indicates more about your mindset than anything about the OP's so-called "cop out".

In fact, it shows just what an arrogant tosser you are. Not that you'll be offended by that, I'm certain. Judging by the frequency with which you demonstrate your arrogance, I'm sure it's a badge of pride to you.

[Winston001]

well I think I've just had my last ride...



I completely understand your thoughts. The final decision is yours and you don't need to make a definitive call right now. Get better first and let a few months go by to gain perspective.

I'm in the same boat. Never mind that I love motorcycles, that my Ducati (sob) was an object of love passion and desire. It's gone and I'm looking for the insurance cheque. :D

You only get so many chances in life. That doesn't mean living in cotton-wool but once you've faced a mortal moment, reviewing what is an acceptable risk becomes very real.

[Katman]

The difference is semantic. The phrase "I don't know what else I could have done" suggests to me he'd since thought about the subject and couldn't come up with any alternative option, even with the benefit of hindsight.



But that isn't the phrase he used, is it?

I might be an arrogant tosser but at least I can fucking read.

[Waxxa]

"There was nothing I could do" is such a cop-out.

big call....

[Daffyd]

Sorry to hear about your incident.

You, and only you can make the decision whether to quit riding.
Don't let ANYONE bully you into giving up something you love.
Months, or even years down the track you will still remember that you were 'told' to give it away and, in the back of your mind, feel that you were pushed into a decision that you didn't want to make.

[RavenR44]

But that isn't the phrase he used, is it?

I might be an arrogant tosser but at least I can fucking read.

So I pasted the wrong quote. My Bad. Here's what he wrote...

"there was nothing at all I could have done, and I'm just glad I'm here to tell the tale..."

and

"I think the the only way I could have got out of it was by going over the top of the bonnet or bouncing off to the left, the witnesses saw the bike go under the cars wheels"

So, as I posted, some introspection about his options. You disagree?

And I'm gratified that you're only too happy to confirm your arrogant tosser status.

[mtroskill]

Hey all... thanks for your support... a little update.

I got paid out some time ago (26k repairs for a 9k bike ... :eek5:).

I have missed the bike a fair bit over the last couple of months but after sitting on the cash for awhile have decided to use it to fund move to Aussie (getting bored here without the excitement of a bike i guess :weep: )

Ride safe

[howdamnhard]

Glad your okay mtroskill and hope the insurance gets sorted out quickly. Yes riding is more risky, but as you say we are only masters of our detinies up to a point. Hence if circumstances conspire to remove you from this world , there is sometimes nothing we can do to change that. We can take as many precautions as we want and still get taken out. It is up to each rider to decide if the risks are worth it and to make their own decision. I know the risks and choose to ride as it makes me feel more alive. Each to their own though. Once again glad you escaped relatively unscathed .

[Trudes]

Good luck with everything, enjoy Aussie...... it's full of Kiwis. ;)

[sinfull]

And snakes, spiders, ants, plus the odd Drunk driver ! Be carefull out there !

[Marmoot]

nothing I could have done with an oncoming car speeding in my lane.

This is your fault how? And if not, why are you punishing yourself?

I think you've done all you could by staying alive, and to have insurance. That's great.

Now consider yourself lucky because you get the free chance to buy a new bike, all expenses paid. It's awesome!

[R-Soul]

PS what does "555'd" mean?

[Dutchee]

PS what does "555'd" mean?

*555 on the mobile is a number you can report some idiotic driving/riding. The one time I've used it, it did no good.

Good luck with Aussie, there are drunk drivers there, so be vigilant (not vigilante) if you decide to get a bike there. I had a friend killed on his bike by a drunk driver at 8.30am one day, so it ain't just here.