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Scotty595

15th December 2009, 18:35

:angry2:

Okay so this is a bit of a rant.

This morning on the way to work, was going around the greenlane round about, all the cars stopped so I went around the outside slowly (key word being slowly - max 10kph so also being very safe). I was then about to get on the motorway onramp (heading north) when this dickhead pulls to his left blatantly, (no possibility of a mistake) he purposefully pulled out to the left, right in front of me, blocking me from going past him (he essentially put his car hard against the barrier so i was stuck), which resulted in me having to slam on my brakes. Any way, I pulled up next to him and said WTF, he then proceeded to call me a fucking idiot so I obliged with the middle finger salute and rode off.

All I can say is I hope he likes his new panel job.

road king

15th December 2009, 18:40

98tls

15th December 2009, 18:44

Be thankful you were only doing 10k.Maybe he woke up this morning looked at the tub of lard snoring beside him and realized hes hated every minute of the last 20 years, hes just been to busy pretending to notice.:bash:

Scotty595

15th December 2009, 18:45

Ducface

15th December 2009, 18:54

Scotty595

15th December 2009, 19:02

or he may have been about to use his cellphone when you interupted?

I do the same manoeuvre everyday but alas not slowly, he might have thought it was me - sorry - should i slow down and give them more time?

The more dangerous part of the Greenane RB are the people going straight through on your left because it's all stopped on the on ramp. dont they know that doesn't stop a bike!!!! ahhh keeps you awake.

Yeah I've had that before, Thats why i go slow down that part now. :s

You dont have a red/black bike do you? if you do then maybe he did mistake me... although i guess to some people all bikes look the same or something...

davebullet

15th December 2009, 19:04

Was he driving a newish car or some old shitter? Even better, a 4wd!

Katman

15th December 2009, 19:06

All I can say is I hope he likes his new panel job.

What a winner. You've just helped create another car driver intent on causing motorcyclists harm.

:tugger:

Scotty595

15th December 2009, 19:10

Was he driving a newish car or some old shitter? Even better, a 4wd!

Something oldish... standard 4 door sedan etc.

Scotty595

15th December 2009, 19:12

What a winner. You've just helped create another car driver intent on causing motorcyclists harm.

:tugger:

I'd say he was already intent on causing motorcyclists harm wouldn't you?

you don't exactly cut someone off on purpose as a sign of love

Katman

15th December 2009, 19:14

I'd say he was already intent on causing motorcyclists harm wouldn't you?

you don't exactly cut someone off on purpose as a sign of love

And by your actions you have reinforced his prejudice.

Dean

15th December 2009, 19:18

I'd say he was already intent on causing motorcyclists harm wouldn't you?

you don't exactly cut someone off on purpose as a sign of love

But that is adding fuel to the fire, kicking his door in is nothing productive, now this man will go home or to work and twist the story to his freinds or family who drive cars about you. Then we have a few more angry car drivers with no regard for our safety and one of us will copp it.

Trust me Ive been through this.

SMOKEU

15th December 2009, 19:18

Sounds like the cunt deserved to have his panels "modified".

Mully

15th December 2009, 19:19

What a winner. You've just helped create another car driver intent on causing motorcyclists harm.

I agree with Katman (I feel dirty now).

I just laugh at these losers who try to block me. Shoulda just gone round him and given hiim a dirty look.

Really, if he wants to block you, he's held you up for what, 10 seconds. Big deal.

You could, if he got your plate, be done for criminal damage. Plus, if you were passing on the left, you were outside the law anyway.

SMOKEU

15th December 2009, 19:22

You could, if he got your plate, be done for criminal damage.

The courts don't give a fuck about that kind of shit these days.

Scotty595

15th December 2009, 19:23

I agree with Katman (I feel dirty now).

I just laugh at these losers who try to block me. Shoulda just gone round him and given hiim a dirty look.

Really, if he wants to block you, he's held you up for what, 10 seconds. Big deal.

You could, if he got your plate, be done for criminal damage. Plus, if you were passing on the left, you were outside the law anyway.

Yeah fair call. I think the anger of the moment just took over a little :Oops:

mmm, is it still illegal if the cars are stopped? I heard it was considered passing a parked car or something silly like that.

davebullet

15th December 2009, 19:26

What a winner. You've just helped create another car driver intent on causing motorcyclists harm.

:tugger:

In life you get bullied and fucked, or you fight back. There is no sitting back "hoping" he'll see the errors of his ways. He already hates motorcyclists.

98tls

15th December 2009, 19:26

But that is adding fuel to the fire, kicking his door in is nothing productive, now this man will go home or to work and twist the story to his freinds or family who drive cars about you. Then we have a few more angry car drivers with no regard for our safety and one of us will copp it.

Trust me Ive been through this. Or he blatantly cuts someone off whos doing 10km and gets no reaction so next time its someone doing 80,ive ridden for 38 years knowing full well that car drivers dont give a shite about my safety and try to ride accordingly.Not sure about the "adding fuel to the fire thing",what was he supposed to do simply say "no worries mate you almost knocked me off my bike on purpose silly me,ave a great day"?Rather than dent his car i would be more inclined to want to know what his problem was face to face,if that wasnt possible then yep,a dents fine.

Katman

15th December 2009, 19:28

In life you get bullied and fucked, or you fight back. There is no sitting back "hoping" he'll see the errors of his ways. He already hates motorcyclists.

Wake up.

That sort of pathetic justification is no consolation to the next motorcyclist who passes him and ends up in hospital (or buried) because of it.

Squiggles

15th December 2009, 19:28

My hero :tugger:

Mully

15th December 2009, 19:29

The courts don't give a fuck about that kind of shit these days.

The courts, probably not. But plod could get a bit annoying in the meantime. And plod would hand over your details to slappy to take you to the disputes tribunal.

Yeah fair call. I think the anger of the moment just took over a little :Oops:

mmm, is it still illegal if the cars are stopped? I heard it was considered passing a parked car or something silly like that.

I know the feeling completely. Trouble is, getting angry achieves nothing at the end of the day. You get angry, loose focus and ride into something else a bit further on. He gets to tell his mates about the fuckwit on the bike.

Life's too short to get red mist over every fuckwit in a car who does something stupid.

It's a bit grey if you are on the shoulder on the left - if they aren't indicating right.

Scotty595

15th December 2009, 19:32

Or he blatantly cuts someone off whos doing 10km and gets no reaction so next time its someone doing 80,ive ridden for 38 years knowing full well that car drivers dont give a shite about my safety.Not sure about the "adding fuel to the fire thing",what was he supposed to do simply say "no worries mate you almost knocked me off my bike on purpose silly me,ave a great day"?Rather than dent his car i would be more inclined to want to know what his problem was face to face,if that wasnt possible then yep,a dents fine.

I would have liked to know wtf his problem was too but I knew that wouldn't have been a good option... would have just made me more fukn angry.

Last time i tried to talk to someone they just kept acting fucking stupid and asking me stupid questions like why i took off so slow, uhhh because I have been riding for a fucking week and i am still learning... and if i feel like taking off slowly i will.

Anyway, carbon fiber knuckles are useful for more than just crashing.:crazy:

Scotty595

15th December 2009, 19:33

The courts, probably not. But plod could get a bit annoying in the meantime. And plod would hand over your details to slappy to take you to the disputes tribunal.

I know the feeling completely. Trouble is, getting angry achieves nothing at the end of the day. You get angry, loose focus and ride into something else a bit further on. He gets to tell his mates about the fuckwit on the bike.

Life's too short to get red mist over every fuckwit in a car who does something stupid.

It's a bit grey if you are on the shoulder on the left - if they aren't indicating right.

I guess you learn from everything... At least i can look back and learn from it. Next time maybe i will ask first then act

Dean

15th December 2009, 19:36

Or he blatantly cuts someone off whos doing 10km and gets no reaction so next time its someone doing 80,ive ridden for 38 years knowing full well that car drivers dont give a shite about my safety and try to ride accordingly.Not sure about the "adding fuel to the fire thing",what was he supposed to do simply say "no worries mate you almost knocked me off my bike on purpose silly me,ave a great day"?Rather than dent his car i would be more inclined to want to know what his problem was face to face,if that wasnt possible then yep,a dents fine.

We hope that wont happen:sweatdrop

I personally would get the man's number plate ride off then come back in a car and smack his doors in, fair? Im fine with a person or two putting a bad name on me just not on fellow motorcyclists.

Mully

15th December 2009, 19:41

I guess you learn from everything... At least i can look back and learn from it. Next time maybe i will ask first then act

Onya.

Bling has been blung.

Tank

16th December 2009, 09:33

Wake up.

That sort of pathetic justification is no consolation to the next motorcyclist who passes him and ends up in hospital (or buried) because of it.

Whats pathetic is that you actually believe that a car driver woulld deliberatley do something dangerous to possibly injure or kill a random motorcyclist because of a incident previousley with another person on a bike.

I know I wouldn't do that - I know that my friends would not do that - all I can assume is that you live in a fucked up place with fucked up people that would.

The truth of the matter is - unless someone is a crazy mother fucker - nobody actually wants to injure or kill another person and will go out of their way not to.

Flatcap

16th December 2009, 09:42

The truth of the matter is - unless someone is a crazy mother fucker - nobody actually wants to injure or kill another person and will go out of their way not to.

Intention and outcome are not necessarily related

Tank

16th December 2009, 09:50

Intention and outcome are not necessarily related

For there to be a outcome - there would have to be an action. And that means the driver would have to choose to do something to the random driver.

Again - I dont know that many people who are that mad.

CookMySock

16th December 2009, 10:22

Whats pathetic is that you actually believe that a car driver woulld deliberatley do something dangerous to possibly injure or kill a random motorcyclist because of a incident previousley with another person on a bike.

I know I wouldn't do that - I know that my friends would not do that - all I can assume is that you live in a fucked up place with fucked up people that would.

The truth of the matter is - unless someone is a crazy mother fucker - nobody actually wants to injure or kill another person and will go out of their way not to.Yup. This level of violence is not the real world, unless it is Katmans'. Makes you wonder doesn't it?

I admit there are some people who have no intention of keeping their emotional state in check, and will act out in any and all fashion against some other human when they have the opportunity to project their beliefs onto them, but these people are weapons, and will eventually remove themselves from society and land in prison, regardless of whether a motorcyclist provoked(sic) them or some 13 y/o kid walking home from school.

I do not admit that we should live our lives in fear of such people, and if that some people do so, then they might like to examine what they believe, where they come from, and more importantly, where they are going.

Steve

avgas

16th December 2009, 10:28

I'd say he was already intent on causing motorcyclists harm wouldn't you?

you don't exactly cut someone off on purpose as a sign of love
I think the motorcycle thing was not really a part of the matter until you gave him the time of day.

Katman

16th December 2009, 10:30

Whats pathetic is that you actually believe that a car driver woulld deliberatley do something dangerous to possibly injure or kill a random motorcyclist because of a incident previousley with another person on a bike.

Pull your head out of your arse Tank.

The original post is alluding to exactly that.

Fuck, I credited you with a few more clues than DB.

Tank

16th December 2009, 10:34

Pull your head out of your arse Tank.

The original post is alluding to exactly that.

No head up my ass.

The OP thinks that may have been the case - but my argument still stands - would you do something deliberatley dangerous and knowingly risk injury or death to another person simply because they are riding a bike?

Do you think that many people would?

Honestly - I think you are delusional.

Skyryder

16th December 2009, 10:34

Scotty.......some advice when riding.....................LEARN TO CONTROL YOUR ANGER. So said 'dickhead loses it' and slam dunks you from the rear. Nothing that happens on the road is worth putting yourself at risk for. IT'S MORE FUCKING IMPORTANT THAT GETTING ALL LEATHERED UP FOR PROTECTION.

Lesson over.

Skyryder

Tank

16th December 2009, 10:35

Fuck, I credited you with a few more clues than DB.

OI - the fact we agree once (on one topic only) - does not put us in the same (nut) basket.

I put us agreeing down to a strange alignment of the stars etc. Will probally never happen again.

And HoBags suck.

Katman

16th December 2009, 10:37

The OP thinks that may have been the case - but my argument still stands - would you do something deliberatley dangerous and knowingly risk injury or death to another person simply because they are riding a bike?

Do you think that many people would?

Honestly - I think you are delusional.

Of course I wouldn't.

But if you truly think there isn't anyone out there with a short enough fuse to act in exactly that manner than you really are as fucked in the head as DB.

Tank

16th December 2009, 10:44

Of course I wouldn't. Of course not - and nor would 99.99% of right minded thinking people - which is exactly what I (and DB) were saying.

But if you truly think there isn't anyone out there with a short enough fuse to act in exactly that manner than you really are as fucked in the head as DB.

Im sure that there is a person out there like that - as crazy as Graeme Burton. The difference is I can live knowing that there will be the very odd nut that if things are going bad may do something stupid.

You on the other hand seem to think that the country is full of people like that.

Katman

16th December 2009, 11:32

Im sure that there is a person out there like that - as crazy as Graeme Burton. The difference is I can live knowing that there will be the very odd nut that if things are going bad may do something stupid.

You on the other hand seem to think that the country is full of people like that.

This country is literally riddled with people who like to use their vehicles to intimidate others.

That act of intimidation may not start out with the intention of causing death or bodily harm but all it takes is for one small miscalculation and the outcome can be precisely that.

Motorcyclists need to fully understand that we are among the most vulnerable of road users and I for one don't appreciated chest-beaters on motorcycles turning our roads into an even more hazardous environment.

We need to work towards improving our relationship with all other road users instead of perpetuating this 'us versus them' bullshit.

wbks

16th December 2009, 12:51

What a winner. You've just helped create another car driver intent on causing motorcyclists harm.

:tugger:You're fucking kidding, right? A car driver tries to fuck with him and it's his fault the dude drove into a barrier? Really?

wbks

16th December 2009, 12:58

Of course not - and nor would 99.99% of right minded thinking people - which is exactly what I (and DB) were saying.

Im sure that there is a person out there like that - as crazy as Graeme Burton. The difference is I can live knowing that there will be the very odd nut that if things are going bad may do something stupid.

You on the other hand seem to think that the country is full of people like that.Never mind the fact that if someone is fucked enough in the head they will do shit like that without provocation. Fuck improving "us vs. them bullshit", if someone cuts me off I'll punch their mirror off. I mean, if I was cut off, certain people...*cough* would find it my fault anyway...

PrincessBandit

16th December 2009, 13:05

To state the obvious: we KNOW who will come off second best in any altercation involving car smacking into motorbike (or, dare I say it, motorbike smacking into car).

It is about how we avoid it, and our ability to keep level headed when faced with an intimidating situation when it becomes unavoidable.

We all know how easily the red cloud can descend and we want our justice or revenge; but how much more satisfying to be able to give way, ride around them then leave them behind as they are stuck in the cue and we can split away to our hearts content.

I personally have no problem with flipping the bird, and have done it a few times to drivers who have actually steadfastly fixed their eyes straight ahead as if turning to look at me might turn them into stone. (Maybe it's the fake snakes sticking out from under my helmet which frightens them). Deliberate damage, no matter how satisfying in the short term, is another matter.

davebullet

16th December 2009, 20:49

Come on people, anyone who posts on KB *MUST* be fucked in the head :laugh:

Scotty595

17th December 2009, 01:11

Come on people, anyone who posts on KB *MUST* be fucked in the head :laugh:

its starting to affect me... im starting to feel more and more opinionated and like telling people who disagree with me to fuck off. The keyboard warrior comes to life! :lol: