Attn : Electricians

[Slipstream]

I have an idea which invovles making a product that requires electrical current.

My dad who has a licence to make stuff for his company is trying to desuade me of making said product till I get my licence.

Ok, so what's this got to with bikes?

Well, on a racetrack you can ride without a road licence, ride a bike that doesn't have a WOF or Rego. So why can't you make a device which aides in racing but doesn't actually get taken on the track?

Am I missing a great big point here due to stuborness or is does my dad need to learn a thing or two? (either option is upsetting)

His points are as follows.

-If it's made by a qualified electrician, it's OK
-If it is under 110v, it's OK
-If it has little to no electrical interference, it's OK
-If it passes a ESTI specifications, it's OK

He also keeps going on about these little stickers with his number on them which he puts on everything he alters/makes/installs.....?

My point is

It's on a race track....different rules apply.....

.....do they or don't they?
I don't particularly care who's right or wrong in this case, but what I actually have to do to make my product.... when I do, it'll hopefully benefit our little racing community.

[idb]

It's on a race track....different rules apply.....
.....
No, it has got to adhere to the electrical regulations no matter where it is.
Are the buildings at the race track exempt from the building regulations?

[Two Smoker]

Are you making me tyre warmers :D ???

[Slipstream]

No, it has got to adhere to the electrical regulations no matter where it is.
Are the buildings at the race track exempt from the building regulations?

Yeah I thought my dad was right :o
Damn it :laugh:
Ah well... At least I can still ask my dad for some help on that front till I get my licence :niceone:

[Slipstream]

Are you making me tyre warmers :D ???

You might be one of the successful applicants :whistle:


I'm also thinking about maybe making a solar powered bike.
Obviously it's just in the "just an idea" stage.
But think about it. The light frames and fearings you can get these days.
Different types of solar panels and battery packs...damn....wouldn't it be so cool if the next step in bike evolution came from NZ again....from this KB community...Damn :D
....Sorry getting a little wound up there....I might just start with small projects first....and maybe even finish my degree....so I can finance my Solar Bike :msn-wink:

Damn...I had waaaaay too much time being sick...I'm all like delerious or summat.

[Virago]

Yeah I thought my dad was right :o
Damn it :laugh:
Ah well... At least I can still ask my dad for some help on that front till I get my licence :niceone:
Common sense really.....
Just because race vehicles are exempt from road use regulations, doesn't mean that all laws are null and void at a race track. Otherwise people could perhaps murder each other at race meetings. Still, it would be an even greater spectator sport.......

[Slipstream]

Common sense really.....
Just because race vehicles are exempt from road use regulations, doesn't mean that all laws are null and void at a race track. Otherwise people could perhaps murder each other at race meetings. Still, it would be an even greater spectator sport.......

Well I have heard that " Rubbin's Racin' " ... sounded like a jail term to me but hey...(I have no idea where that came from)

At the time I just couldn't understand how you were allowed to build a bike including with it's electrics, but you couldn't make tyre warmers or a solar power generator *shrug*

I think I have brain fry...I'm feeling light headed :D Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[idb]

Yeah I thought my dad was right :o
Damn it :laugh:
Ah well... At least I can still ask my dad for some help on that front till I get my licence :niceone:
Now you listen to your Dad, I'm a Dad too and we know everything :D

[Wolf]

I'm also thinking about maybe making a solar powered bike.
Obviously it's just in the "just an idea" stage.
But think about it. The light frames and fearings you can get these days.
Different types of solar panels and battery packs...damn....wouldn't it be so cool if the next step in bike evolution came from NZ again....from this KB community...Damn :D
....Sorry getting a little wound up there....I might just start with small projects first....and maybe even finish my degree....so I can finance my Solar Bike :msn-wink:

Damn...I had waaaaay too much time being sick...I'm all like delerious or summat.
Heya Slippy

A few points:

Your solar powered bike would only be low voltage DC - which means you do not need to be a registered electrician to do it.

You would need: Electric motor(s), lightweight deep cycle batteries (power smoothing), solar collectors, charging circuitry, motor speed controller and assorted cut-off switches and control potentiometers (to disable the bike under certain circumstances and to instruct the controller box how much juice to feed to the motor(s)).

You'd probably be looking at anything from 12 to 72 volts DC - well under 110VDC - probably around the 24-48V mark as a good trade off of power and mass of batteries/solar collectors (which have to be carried on the damn thing).

Motors are rated in continous power, not peak (can peak at up to 20 times the rated continuous wattage) and have a different power dynamic from IC engines.

The power and performance of electric motors is proven - look at the Wellington Unit and the electric passenger trains that travel the length of the North Island. OK, they're higher voltage and very powerful motors but the vehicles are also thousands of times heavier than what you're envisioning...

I am extremely interested in electric vehicles, home EV conversions etc. And I am right behind anyone who wants to look into the possibilities.

Don't let anyone tell you your dreams are unrealistic. Other people have done similar - and who knows, you might be the one who, having studied what others have done and played around with it a bit, makes the discovery that revolutionises the field.

Everyone remembers James Watt in association with steam engines and his name is given to the unit of power - but he did not invent the steam engine - steam engines were already in use and James Watt was skilled in their repair. What he did, was improve the steam engine to the point that a whole new era of steam power was ushered in.

Nurture your dreams - read, research, cogitate - you could be the future "James Watt" of the solar vehicle for all we know. If you want info and resources, PM me and I'll send you what I have for starters.

[gav]

Well, on a racetrack you can ride without a road licence, ride a bike that doesn't have a WOF or Rego. So why can't you make a device which aides in racing but doesn't actually get taken on the track?
Cool, you're building a Playstation with MotoGP!!

[Slipstream]

Now you listen to your Dad, I'm a Dad too and we know everything :D

Hey, I'm a mum and we all know that mums let dads think they know everything :msn-wink:

[idb]

Hey, I'm a mum and we all know that mums let dads think they know everything :msn-wink:
You're right of course.....I'll just sit quietly over here dear, if it's alright. :confused:

[WINJA]

THE LAW REGAURDING ELECTRICAL WORK WHICH INCLUDES R AND D ONLY APPLIES IF YOU ARE DOING THE WORK FOR REWARD

[idb]

THE LAW REGAURDING ELECTRICAL WORK WHICH INCLUDES R AND D ONLY APPLIES IF YOU ARE DOING THE WORK FOR REWARD
No...that refers to what qualifications you must have if you are working for reward.
The intent is that you are allowed to carry out a limited amount of work in your own home without qualifications.

[Slipstream]

mass of batteries/solar collectors (which have to be carried on the damn thing).

Well the solar collectors you can get these days can be incredibley light, liquid and even see through. therefore you could use them as fairings, or even as fairing blades. I have info on that somewhere.

[wari]

SLipp ... you all-most quall-iffy furr my beers an' i-deers teem ... :drinknsin

AT pres-sent ... therre three inda teem ... a tri-umm-virate ... :spudbn:<== da othrrs ==> :spudbn: :apint: <== me

MY job ista drinkda beers ... and en-courrage da i-dears ... :wari:

:wait:

IFya want yurr can strrt a WElly based beers n i-deers fran-chise ...

WHdya say ... :spudwhat: ...

OH yeah .. ourr pro-fitts go back into da beer pooll ...

MInd ... we op-err-ate a deff-isit furr tax por-poses .. werre inda RED .. :confused:

[Sniper]

Go for it Slip!!!!

[WINJA]

No...that refers to what qualifications you must have if you are working for reward.
The intent is that you are allowed to carry out a limited amount of work in your own home without qualifications.
THATS WHAT IM SAYING , THIS IS WHAT THEY TOLD ME WHEN I GOT MY LEL REGISTRATION, IF YOU HAVE ONE BTW DONT FORGET JUNE IS RENEWEL TIME

[Slipstream]

The intent is that you are allowed to carry out a limited amount of work in your own home without qualifications.

I've been told that this type of thing along with DIY building in your own home is soon to be a thing of the past :(

Unless you are a fully qualified plumber/electrician/builder...you will not be able to lift a finger except to decorate...and I bet it will be little time after that when the interior designers will stomp their heels in demand of the same law change.

I remember every house I lived in with my father got redone in some way by him. Heck, my first house I _ever_ lived in was built by him.
(Sure he had a builders/electrician licences thingamees and a plumber friend)

All I ever wanted to do was have my husband and me, with my dad's help, build the perfect family home.....
0 for 2.

Now I'm into demolishing :msn-wink: wheres that ball :niceone:

[Storm]

Well the solar collectors you can get these days can be incredibley light, liquid and even see through. therefore you could use them as fairings, or even as fairing blades. I have info on that somewhere.

Be a pretty expensive crash then !! :no:

[Ixion]

..
I'm also thinking about maybe making a solar powered bike.
Obviously it's just in the "just an idea" stage.
But think about it. The light frames and fearings you can get these days.
..

Look Here (http://www.speedace.info/solar_cars.htm)
for lotsa info about solar powered vehicles.

Two problems : What happens at night ? And unless you could mould the solar panels into a curve and make a fairing out of them (free idea there), the bike's going to be hard to control when the wind gets under the solar panels.

[Biff]

Solar is good - but it depends on what you're looking to drive with the power generated. You're not going to get much current from a couple of cheap solar panels. So solar power on a cost/effectiveness basis might be a non starter.

Any electrical device is subject to type approvals for the country/region they'll be used in. These are pretty easy to achieve (but costs $$$$) providing that it doesn't catch fire, explode, transmit RF/magnetic interference etc.

Stick to it mate, this idea may be a flyer. Sound it out a bit more.

If you make millions will you buy me a chocolate starfish?

[idb]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING , THIS IS WHAT THEY TOLD ME WHEN I GOT MY LEL REGISTRATION, IF YOU HAVE ONE BTW DONT FORGET JUNE IS RENEWEL TIME
Yep - full renewal for me this time around, First Aid, Safe Working Practices.
A whole day in a classroom - yawn.

[Slipstream]

Two problems : What happens at night ?
That depends on how dark it is and how much capacity your battery has.
Were you aware that you can still get solar energy from street lamps and moon/starlight?



And unless you could mould the solar panels into a curve and make a fairing out of them (free idea there), the bike's going to be hard to control when the wind gets under the solar panels

Already mentioned about making fairings and even fairing blades out of solar panels.

There's also solar liquid collectors...called amorphous crystals.

As far as I know there are 3 types of crystal.
Mono-crystals: the one that looks like a square with cut off corners. Usually greyish in colour.
These are the most efficient collectors. They are grown and sliced into panels. More expensive.
Multi-crystals: the rectangle ones that look like blue chipboard.
These are the most used. These are bits and pieces all sorta melted together into a block then sliced into panels. Cheaper.
Amorphous-crystals: to be honest, I have learnt much about this stuff yet...it's not really on the public market so much at the moment. But from what I understand it's a liquid compound and doesn't have a long life...about 3 years I think.

But solar panels are far ahead these days that every window you see, could potentially be a solar panel...think of your skylight........

[StoneChucker]

That depends on how dark it is and how much capacity your battery has.
Were you aware that you can still get solar energy from street lamps and moon/starlight?




Already mentioned about making fairings and even fairing blades out of solar panels.

There's also solar liquid collectors...called amorphous crystals.

As far as I know there are 3 types of crystal.
Mono-crystals: the one that looks like a square with cut off corners. Usually greyish in colour.
These are the most efficient collectors. They are grown and sliced into panels. More expensive.
Multi-crystals: the rectangle ones that look like blue chipboard.
These are the most used. These are bits and pieces all sorta melted together into a block then sliced into panels. Cheaper.
Amorphous-crystals: to be honest, I have learnt much about this stuff yet...it's not really on the public market so much at the moment. But from what I understand it's a liquid compound and doesn't have a long life...about 3 years I think.

But solar panels are far ahead these days that every window you see, could potentially be a solar panel...think of your skylight........
Stop it! Where has the debaucherous slipstream of past gone? Who is the new edjumacated person posting under her name? There was a time I understood every innuendo she posted, and now? Amorphous/multi/mono-crystals?

This calls for a Family Guy quote:

Dennis Miller: I don't wanna go on a RANT here but America's foreign policy makes about as much sense as Beowolf having sex with Robert Fulton at the first Battle of Antetum. I mean when a neo-conservative defenstrates it's like Raskalnakov filibuster dioxymonohydrostinate.

Peter: What the hell does RANT mean?

[Slipstream]

Stop it! Where has the debaucherous slipstream of past gone? Who is the new edjumacated person posting under her name? There was a time I understood every innuendo she posted, and now? Amorphous/multi/mono-crystals?

Well, if it makes you feel any better ... I got the idea from a dream I had about me riding the bike I wanna build and I had this hot chick on the back and I bumped into this guy I knew and all 3 of us ... hang on...there are young people around. :whistle: Anyway I thought to myself...if I build it, they will come..... :killingme


Seriously tho ... there's more to me than just a debauchery :bleh: (mmmm debauchery :D )

[StoneChucker]

I got the idea from a dream I had about me riding the bike I wanna build and I had this hot chick on the back and I bumped into this guy I knew and all 3 of us ...
So, who was the guy? :laugh:
I sincerely hope all your dreams come true :Punk:
I hardly ever remember my dreams (if I have any, s'pose I do as everyone does). I do have one recurring dream tho, and I also think I have way too many de ja voux (sp.???) experiences.

[Slipstream]

So, who was the guy? :laugh:

Not telling. My dream, my secret :bleh:


I sincerely hope all your dreams come true :Punk:

Cheers man ... but you just want the video dontcha :msn-wink:


I do have one recurring dream tho

"Is it the one where you're standing at the top of a stairway in sundrenched robes with naked women throwing pickles at you? ... No? .... Why am I the only one to have that dream?....."

[Slipstream]

Back to the matter at hand...

I'm gonna start making a design for these tyre warmer's. As my Dad has decided that he does not like me riding a bike soooo much, I can't rely on his help. Since I won't be doing an electronics course till summer, I'm in a bit of a jam.

Any qualified sparky wanna check my design and A OK it or whatever when I'm done?

[WINJA]

Back to the matter at hand...

I'm gonna start making a design for these tyre warmer's. As my Dad has decided that he does not like me riding a bike soooo much, I can't rely on his help. Since I won't be doing an electronics course till summer, I'm in a bit of a jam.

Any qualified sparky wanna check my design and A OK it or whatever when I'm done?
ARE YOU GOING TO GET A MONO SPIRAL WIRE BELTED RADIAL AND PUT POWER THRU BOTH ENDS TO MAKE AN INTERNAL HEATER, QUICK GET A PATENT

[Slipstream]

ARE YOU GOING TO GET A MONO SPIRAL WIRE BELTED RADIAL AND PUT POWER THRU BOTH ENDS TO MAKE AN INTERNAL HEATER, QUICK GET A PATENT

Hmmm, not sure if you're being serious or not...but I thought the idea was to make the external part of the tyre get more grip by being warm and slightly softer yet still maintain the strength and solidity of the tyre....or whatever...anyway...need to finish assignment....

[pyrocam]

my theory would have been that a race track is not a public road so you can ride a non-road legal bike. you have to convice the scrutineers that its not going to hurt anyone or hire the venue for a day though. like you cant have glass or mirrors on a bike on trackday.

perhaps test it on a country road or something. im sure a few KB'rs can close a road for 30mins before ppl get suspicios. anyone got a few orange vests?

Btw. im not a qualified sparky but im pretty fucking handy with electronics. Me and mains have an understanding at the moment. also Im really good with problem solving. so If you want a free hand then gimme a bell (or a PM, I dont really want a bell. I mean what would I do with a bell?)

[WINJA]

Hmmm, not sure if you're being serious or not...but I thought the idea was to make the external part of the tyre get more grip by being warm and slightly softer yet still maintain the strength and solidity of the tyre....or whatever...anyway...need to finish assignment....
SERIOUS SERIOUS , THINK ABOUT IT, THINK OF A BIKE GRIDED UP WITH THE TYRES GETTING , LAST TIME I RACED AT PAEROA I SPENT 20 MINS ON THE DUMMY GRID NO ONE HAD TYRE WARMERS ON SO AT THIS POINT THEY MAY HAVE WELL LEFT TYRE WARMERS AT HOME , SO IF THE TYRE HEATS ITSELF INTERNALLY IT CAN BE LEFT ON THE GRID WITH SAY 2 3MM PLUGS IN THE SIDE OF THEM

[Ixion]

SERIOUS SERIOUS , THINK ABOUT IT, THINK OF A BIKE GRIDED UP WITH THE TYRES GETTING , LAST TIME I RACED AT PAEROA I SPENT 20 MINS ON THE DUMMY GRID NO ONE HAD TYRE WARMERS ON SO AT THIS POINT THEY MAY HAVE WELL LEFT TYRE WARMERS AT HOME , SO IF THE TYRE HEATS ITSELF INTERNALLY IT CAN BE LEFT ON THE GRID WITH SAY 2 3MM PLUGS IN THE SIDE OF THEM

What about putting a real grid under the "grid". And passing radio frequency EMR through it. If the RF was collapsed, it should generate a magnetic field in the wires of the tyre. Repeat often (ie pulse the RF), and in theory the tyre should get hot.

No idea whether this would work, just a mindless ramble.

[WINJA]

What about putting a real grid under the "grid". And passing radio frequency EMR through it. If the RF was collapsed, it should generate a magnetic field in the wires of the tyre. Repeat often (ie pulse the RF), and in theory the tyre should get hot.

No idea whether this would work, just a mindless ramble.
IF I CANT PUT IT NEAR A PACEMAKER I WOULDNT PUT IT NEAR MY BIKE

[Ixion]

IF I CANT PUT IT NEAR A PACEMAKER I WOULDNT PUT IT NEAR MY BIKE

Your bike needs a pacemaker ? :devil2:

[scumdog]

IF I CANT PUT IT NEAR A PACEMAKER I WOULDNT PUT IT NEAR MY BIKE

You're old enought to need a pacemaker??

Your bike has a pacemaker???

[sels1]

Or waddabout pinching a magnatron out of a 12v boat or caravan microwave and zapping the tyres with that?? or or a hairdryer or or whatabout makin a big round (solar powered) hot water bottle! :D

[WINJA]

What about putting a real grid under the "grid". And passing radio frequency EMR through it. If the RF was collapsed, it should generate a magnetic field in the wires of the tyre. Repeat often (ie pulse the RF), and in theory the tyre should get hot.

No idea whether this would work, just a mindless ramble.
IM SAYING THE ELECTRONICS IN A BIKE CAN BE DELICATE , IF THE RADIO FREQUENCY WOULD UPSET A PACEMAKER IT WOULD UPSET THE BIKE ELECTRONICS

[Ixion]

IM SAYING THE ELECTRONICS IN A BIKE CAN BE DELICATE , IF THE RADIO FREQUENCY WOULD UPSET A PACEMAKER IT WOULD UPSET THE BIKE ELECTRONICS

Yeah, I know mate. It was a pisstake. I didn't think about the effect on electronics originally though, so it's a good point.

Now, see if your bike had a good old Lucas K2F magneto, instead of all that fancy electronic stuff , you'd be sweet (another piss take )

[Slipstream]

IM SAYING THE ELECTRONICS IN A BIKE CAN BE DELICATE , IF THE RADIO FREQUENCY WOULD UPSET A PACEMAKER IT WOULD UPSET THE BIKE ELECTRONICS

My dad used to work in telecommunications and now has his own solar power company .... stupid thing is....I can't believe until recently, that i didn't know that electricity has a radio frequency.... we had to get his old work to approve the solar panels we use for the freq....weird shit man

Love learning about it tho....

[Ixion]

Or waddabout pinching a magnatron out of a 12v boat or caravan microwave and zapping the tyres with that?? or or a hairdryer or or whatabout makin a big round (solar powered) hot water bottle! :D

Why has everything always got to be technological and complicated . What's wrong with the good oldfashioned way, setting fire to the tyres. Once you're racing, the slipstream blows out the flames (Or , Slipstream blows out the flames ? ). Didn't you know, that's why the Manx start was invented, cos riders couldn't sit on their bikes waiting for the start, cos of the flames from the burning tyres setting fire to their [ at this point Mr Hitcher is waiting with bated breath] a**es [Mr Hitcher suffers apoplexy not knowing ]

[Virago]

so If you want a free hand then gimme a bell (or a PM, I dont really want a bell. I mean what would I do with a bell?)
Mount it on your handlebars?

But hey, what do you need electronic whiz-bangs for - there's been enough hot air spouted in this thread to do the job manually. :killingme

[Slipstream]

setting fire to the tyres. Once you're racing, the slipstream blows out the flames (Or , Slipstream blows out the flames ? ).

Are you trying to say that I'm supposed to be running around track days blowing tyres????!!!! :shit:

[Kwaka-Kid]

nah its WINJA that needs the pacemaker :P

[Ixion]

Are you trying to say that I'm supposed to be running around track days blowing tyres????!!!! :shit:

Blowing tyres, blowing riders , queue forms on the left guys :devil2:

[StoneChucker]

Blowing tyres, blowing riders , queue forms on the left guys :devil2:
Bloody hell, Frosty's $60 fee seems even more worth it than it already was! :killingme

Hmm, WHY is there NOONE on the track? *EDIT* noticed I included the girls :msn-wink:

[Slipstream]

Blowing tyres, blowing riders , queue forms on the left guys :devil2:

Well now...that's very sexist of you...what about the girls...:shifty:
...
er...
...
:whistle:

[Ixion]

Well now...that's very sexist of you...what about the girls...:shifty:
...
er...
...
:whistle:

You want to blow the girls ? Well, whatever rocks your boat. Queue forms on the right, girls

[Slipstream]

You want to blow the girls ? Well, whatever rocks your boat. Queue forms on the right, girls

Hey hey...I don't discriminate.....


But this was supposed to be a thread about finding out some info on electrical devices for bikes...not who ...or what...I'm blowing :laugh:

[WINJA]

Hey hey...I don't discriminate.....


But this was supposed to be a thread about finding out some info on electrical devices for bikes...not who ...or what...I'm blowing :laugh:
HEY SS CAN I ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS, DO YOU HAVE A BIKE LICENCE? HAVE YOU EVER OWNED A BIKE? WHAT SORT OF BIKE DO YOU WANT TO OWN ? WHAT SORT OF BIKE COULD YOU PRACTICALLY OWN? WOULD YOUR MUM, DAD AND OTHER HALF LET YOU RIDE? CAN YOU MAINTAIN A BIKE YOURSELF?

[Slipstream]

HEY SS CAN I ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS,

yes


DO YOU HAVE A BIKE LICENCE?

Not yet...next month


HAVE YOU EVER OWNED A BIKE?

yes


WHAT SORT OF BIKE DO YOU WANT TO OWN ?

A reliable one that is economic and looks good ... or an R1 or Ninja


WHAT SORT OF BIKE COULD YOU PRACTICALLY OWN?

Right now...nothing...no money...2 kids won't fit on the back....


WOULD YOUR MUM, DAD AND OTHER HALF LET YOU RIDE?

Old enough to make those decisions now myself.


CAN YOU MAINTAIN A BIKE YOURSELF?

Not yet, want to learn, hence "Rangi My Ride" project.

[Slipstream]

I joined up on the site hoping that it would help my marriage ... it didn't but it helped us become good friends.
I've always been interested in bikes and my Dad has always hated them.
When I married a "biker" he was dismayed but... I finally had the opening I needed to learn about bikes...well that was the idea....7 years down the track, I'm finally taking the inciative (sp) and doing something about it, thanks to all the people on this site.
I do know a little about bikes but not as much as I should, or would like.

My star sign is Taurus. I like to hold hands and take long walks along the beach, with a hot and steamy bubble bath afterwards.

Any other questions??? Mr man of mystery :laugh:

[WINJA]

I joined up on the site hoping that it would help my marriage ... it didn't but it helped us become good friends.
I've always been interested in bikes and my Dad has always hated them.
When I married a "biker" he was dismayed but... I finally had the opening I needed to learn about bikes...well that was the idea....7 years down the track, I'm finally taking the inciative (sp) and doing something about it, thanks to all the people on this site.
I do know a little about bikes but not as much as I should, or would like.

My star sign is Taurus. I like to hold hands and take long walks along the beach, with a hot and steamy bubble bath afterwards.

Any other questions??? Mr man of mystery :laugh:
IM NO MAN OF MYSTERY , I CAME AND SAID HI LAST WEEKEND,IM JUST LIKE THE INVISIBLE MAN , NO ONE SEES ME

[Slipstream]

IM NO MAN OF MYSTERY , I CAME AND SAID HI LAST WEEKEND,IM JUST LIKE THE INVISIBLE MAN , NO ONE SEES ME

No fair...you didn't introduce yourself as being off the site :bleh: Ya big meanie...

[Kwaka-Kid]

Did you happen to talk to me about the VFR WINJA?

[scumdog]

IM NO MAN OF MYSTERY , I CAME AND SAID HI LAST WEEKEND,IM JUST LIKE THE INVISIBLE MAN , NO ONE SEES ME

I noticed that with the lack of posts on URGENT thread and other related to Flyin.

Plonker.

[Slipstream]

I noticed that with the lack of posts on URGENT thread and other related to Flyin.

Plonker.

Scumdog I like you, but please don't turn this into a hate thread....
I was talking to a person for 30 mins before they noticed the "Urgent" thread
I know it seems silly, but some people just don't see some threads....even Urgent ones :(

Now back to electrics on bikes...Do they have computer chips like some cars do?

[Ixion]

Scumdog I like you, but please don't turn this into a hate thread....
I was talking to a person for 30 mins before they noticed the "Urgent" thread
I know it seems silly, but some people just don't see some threads....even Urgent ones :(

Now back to electrics on bikes...Do they have computer chips like some cars do?

Well said. Blessed are the peacemakers. Yes modern bikes have computer chips (ECUs , Engine Control Units) and like cars they can be "chipped". Some of the sports bike chaps will be able to tell you more about this

[WINJA]

I noticed that with the lack of posts on URGENT thread and other related to Flyin.

Plonker.
THATS CAUSE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO SAY, SO SAYING NOTHING IS BEST.YOU SHOULDNT DRAG OUR BULLSHIT INTO THAT SUBJECT , FIND ANOTHER SUBJECT TO RIP ME ON

[Waylander]

I noticed that with the lack of posts on URGENT thread and other related to Flyin.

Plonker.
Dude you should know better than to try starting something about that. Poor taste mate. I havn't posted that much about it either for much the same reasons as WINJA.

Anyway you can ignore this post now cause I don't have much to say on what you are trying to do Slip. I don't know all that much about motorbike electrics and I have already told you what I know about Solar pannels, so I am just going to shut up now.

[Slipstream]

I have already told you what I know about Solar pannels, so I am just going to shut up now.

Cos YOU KNOW I'd shut you down on that subject :Punk:

But I can't say nuthin...I'd still need help with the general needs of bike anatomy :yes:

[Slipstream]

FIND ANOTHER SUBJECT TO RIP ME ON

Whats with wearing the same white shirt everyday and the weird haircut? advatar picture

[WINJA]

Whats with wearing the same white shirt everyday and the weird haircut? advatar picture
IM THE FONZ "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" :niceone:

[Two Smoker]

IM THE FONZ "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" :niceone:

Well dye ya fucking hair.... hehehe

Hey Lena... im still waiting for my tyre warmers :D :D :D :niceone:

[scumdog]

Dude you should know better than to try starting something about that. Poor taste mate. I havn't posted that much about it either for much the same reasons as WINJA.

.

Meh, thought I'd have a go at being like WINJA/mikey etc but nah, didn't do anything for me, I guess you have to have a penchant for that kind of thing.
I'll leave that side of things to them.

I'll just carry on being me :D

[scumdog]

THATS CAUSE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO SAY, SO SAYING NOTHING IS BEST.YOU SHOULDNT DRAG OUR BULLSHIT INTO THAT SUBJECT , FIND ANOTHER SUBJECT TO RIP ME ON

Hoe-kay, thanks for the invitation champ!! :niceone:

[Waylander]

Meh, thought I'd have a go at being like WINJA/mikey etc but nah, didn't do anything for me, I guess you have to have a penchant for that kind of thing.
I'll leave that side of things to them.

I'll just carry on being me :D
Still dude given the subject you were ripping him on that's just low and incredibly disrepectfull to others. If you havn't noticed, Winja, mikey and others have toned thier shit down recently. If you were trying to be more like them you failed and went beyond where I think even they are capable of going.

[Kwaka-Kid]

Hey Lena... im still waiting for my tyre warmers :D :D :D :niceone:

No fair i thought i got first dibs! :no:

[WINJA]

WE HAD A FUNNY POSTER AT WORK IT SAID "TWO WEEKS AGO I COULDNT SPEEL ELIKTRISIAN NOW I ARE ONE"

[idb]

WE HAD A FUNNY POSTER AT WORK IT SAID "TWO WEEKS AGO I COULDNT SPEEL ELIKTRISIAN NOW I ARE ONE"
Hang on, that's not right.......

[Slipstream]

well, after a lengthly conversation with my dad, i've come to the conclusion that making a solar powered bike right now would be a bit tame. The speed you'd get wouldn't be that great. I will look into it again when I've made my first couple of millions tho.
I want to make a race bike first ya see.
So I was wondering...has anyone seen or heard about a hybrid bike?
Apparently hybrid cars go as fast as gas guzzlers.

You could essentially cut the weight down in ya race bike by reducing the amout needed for petrol ... go on the smell of an oily rag sorta thing. Plus the battery could be smaller...but then would you use that weight lost in electrics??
Damn, I knew I shoulda taken mechanical engineering, instead of electrical engineering ..... :(

Anyone know how to make a proper battery? I mean is it possible?
A plastic box...acid...terminals and away you go???
I mean I could get a barrel of lemons and stick copper wire through them to make a circuit...but I think that would just look a little queer...

I have plans ya see...big plans and one day i'm gonna TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!...er I mean finish my plans....yeah....:mellow:

[Biff]

Acid batteries are sooooooo 90's.

What you want is a Lithium Iron of Nickel Metal Hydride. More power, less weight and far less prone to the dreaded 'memory effect' than othe types.

There are loads of ways to make your own battery. it depends on what kind of power you need. You can even make a battery using your own bodily fluids. And I don't mean the yucky ones.

http://www.all-science-fair-projects.com/science_fair_projects/29/350/3f7eba0c64799f37d56fe612e0dd0a55.html

Or a potato: http://www.miniscience.com/projects/PotatoElectricity/

[Slipstream]

So I made my first tyre warmer the other day at my uncle's house (he's a sparky :niceone: )
Looked real good ...till it melted :o
....the "heat-resistant" material, wasn't so heat resistant after all :(

But at least I know the electrics work :D Now I maybe just need to put a higher resistor into it....and find some better material....I found some "wadding" that might be a goer....

Anyone know where I might be able to get hold of a second hand fire blanket?

[WINJA]

So I made my first tyre warmer the other day at my uncle's house (he's a sparky :niceone: )
Looked real good ...till it melted :o
....the "heat-resistant" material, wasn't so heat resistant after all :(

But at least I know the electrics work :D Now I maybe just need to put a higher resistor into it....and find some better material....I found some "wadding" that might be a goer....

Anyone know where I might be able to get hold of a second hand fire blanket?
DO YOU HAVE A GN250 TO TEST IT ON?

[Teflon]

Acid batteries are sooooooo 90's.

What you want is a Lithium Iron of Nickel Metal Hydride. More power, less weight and far less prone to the dreaded 'memory effect' than othe types.

There are loads of ways to make your own battery. it depends on what kind of power you need. You can even make a battery using your own bodily fluids. And I don't mean the yucky ones.

http://www.all-science-fair-projects.com/science_fair_projects/29/350/3f7eba0c64799f37d56fe612e0dd0a55.html

Or a potato: http://www.miniscience.com/projects/PotatoElectricity/

"New fuel cell opens way for artificial hearts

May 13 2005 at 09:10AM

Tokyo - A Japanese research team has developed a fuel cell that runs on blood without using toxic substances, opening the way for use in artificial hearts and other organs.

The biological fuel cell uses glucose, a sugar in blood, with a non-toxic substance used to draw electrons from glucose, said the team led by Matsuhiko Nishizawa, bio-engineering professor at the graduate school of state-run Tohoku University.

"Since the electron mediator is based on Vitamin K3, which exists in human bodies, it excels in safety and could in the future generate power from blood as an implant-type fuel cell," the group said in a statement.

Most other bio-fuel cells under study use a metal complex, spawning concern about harm if used for implants.

The newly developed cell in the size of a tiny coin is able to generate 0,2 milliwatts of electricity, enough to power a device that measures blood sugar level and transmits data elsewhere, the group said. -

----------
Sapa-AFP"

[ManDownUnder]

So I made my first tyre warmer the other day at my uncle's house (he's a sparky :niceone: )
Looked real good ...till it melted :o
....the "heat-resistant" material, wasn't so heat resistant after all :(

But at least I know the electrics work :D Now I maybe just need to put a higher resistor into it....and find some better material....I found some "wadding" that might be a goer....

Anyone know where I might be able to get hold of a second hand fire blanket?

Yup - go to any electrical good repair place. They'll have heaps opf them about now (they all come in for testing at the start of winter - and any with broken wiring get biffed).

... no offence Biffy...

A quick ring around ought to do it, and if they worryt about unsafe goods being handed over, get them to cut the plug/lead off at the blanket.

MDU

[Racey Rider]

I'm trying to invent something that uses solar panels as well.
A couple of questions peoples might help me with.

1. How do you measure the 'power' (energy), of the available light hitting the panel?
2. where can I get transparent panels?

Thanks.
Racey.

[Biff]

... no offence Biffy...



Actually MDU - I only realised last week that the term Biff'd implies something is broken. I therefore demand that, from this point forward, the entire nation refrains from using this word, unless you're referring to me of course, of which there is just the one, unique, sexy, talented, egotestical, studmuffin.

I am not broken, all my bits work fine thanks, and I have the photos to prove it. :msn-wink:

[ManDownUnder]

Actually MDU - I only realised last week that the term Biff'd implies something is broken. I therefore demand that, from this point forward, the entire nation refrains from using this word, unless you're referring to me of course, of which there is just the one, unique, sexy, talented, egotestical, studmuffin.

I am not broken, all my bits work fine thanks, and I have the photos to prove it. :msn-wink:

ok - now I think you're mad... scary, remarkably funny... but mad too.

I can see we'll also need to discuss your condition over a few fine bottles of vino - for medicinal reasons of course
MDU