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danielle
17th December 2009, 18:31
Hi all, need a bit of advice,

After failing my restricted today after not having a warrent:bash: (yes, stupid i know) i took the bike into the place to get the warrent. When i went to pick thus bike up they said it had a few problems which surprised me a LOT!

Apparantly (now bear with me i didnt quite catch wat the dude said) the front tyre wasnt beaded on properly. So i asked what does this mean to which he replied "basically not on properly" (so can anyone shine any light on this for the mechanically retarded?)

So i replied to this guy "does this mean for the past 6 months ive been riding around on a dangerous bike" short answer yes. BUT what really pisses me off is i had my last warrent with them and it flew through. Is this a problem that can occur over time or is it something they missed and i need to tell them that im pissed of they missed it etc etc?

Any help on this matter would be greatly, greatly appreciated!

huff3r
17th December 2009, 18:53
Hi all, need a bit of advice,

After failing my restricted today after not having a warrent:bash: (yes, stupid i know) i took the bike into the place to get the warrent. When i went to pick thus bike up they said it had a few problems which surprised me a LOT!

Apparantly (now bear with me i didnt quite catch wat the dude said) the front tyre wasnt beaded on properly. So i asked what does this mean to which he replied "basically not on properly" (so can anyone shine any light on this for the mechanically retarded?)

So i replied to this guy "does this mean for the past 6 months ive been riding around on a dangerous bike" short answer yes. BUT what really pisses me off is i had my last warrent with them and it flew through. Is this a problem that can occur over time or is it something they missed and i need to tell them that im pissed of they missed it etc etc?

Any help on this matter would be greatly, greatly appreciated!

Basically it mean when the tyre was put on it wasnt inflated enough initially to pop it "onto the bead" which is the section of thhe rim it's designed to sit on. Shouldnt be too hard for a tyre shop to fix it for you, might even be able to do it without removing the wheel...

quickbuck
17th December 2009, 20:09
^^^^
What they said.

Actually it may happen if the tyre has been left to go flat.... for what ever reason (must have had a leak), and then re-inflated....

Yes, I said MAY.
It is unlikely, but then so is somebody fitting a tyre incorrectly (not beading it properly). It can take many PSI (Pounds per square inch - pressure) though....
However I can see a wheel weight on your rim, so it must have been done semi properly... OR, they never removed the old weight....

What bike shop?? Just brand they deal with if you don't want to name names...

Oh, and bummer on your Fail...

danielle
17th December 2009, 20:38
I wont name the shop but they deal with harleys triumphs etc etc. Basically i dont understand how it wasnt picked up last time i had my warrent because ive only done maybe 2000ks MAX since that warrent. GAH. life....

Makes me a bit worried if i was riding around on a wonky bike as well...

roadracingoldfart
17th December 2009, 20:53
Hi all, need a bit of advice,

After failing my restricted today after not having a warrent:bash: (yes, stupid i know) i took the bike into the place to get the warrent. When i went to pick thus bike up they said it had a few problems which surprised me a LOT!

Apparantly (now bear with me i didnt quite catch wat the dude said) the front tyre wasnt beaded on properly. So i asked what does this mean to which he replied "basically not on properly" (so can anyone shine any light on this for the mechanically retarded?)

So i replied to this guy "does this mean for the past 6 months ive been riding around on a dangerous bike" short answer yes. BUT what really pisses me off is i had my last warrent with them and it flew through. Is this a problem that can occur over time or is it something they missed and i need to tell them that im pissed of they missed it etc etc?

Any help on this matter would be greatly, greatly appreciated!

And lets all pause for a few seconds and try to understand why such an inspector would fail a bike for such an item and then expect you to RIDE it off to remedy it , fuck there are some dumb assed shitheads in my industry.

Logpot
17th December 2009, 21:06
Which testing outfit failed you?

danielle
18th December 2009, 06:31
Doesnt really matter who tested it, im justt really interested in the question, should i kick up a fuss because they passed the bike 6 months ago???

cowboyz
18th December 2009, 06:44
ummmmmmmmmm? I am a little confused being as the remedy is to let the tyre down and pump it up again seating it properly (ie.. no actual cost involved).. why wasnt the problem fixed and warrent given?

dogsnbikes
18th December 2009, 07:15
ummmmmmmmmm? I am a little confused being as the remedy is to let the tyre down and pump it up again seating it properly (ie.. no actual cost involved).. why wasnt the problem fixed and warrent given?

Maybe the FXR150 was too comlicated for a hardly machanic:lol:

davereid
18th December 2009, 07:22
ummmmmmmmmm? I am a little confused being as the remedy is to let the tyre down and pump it up again seating it properly (ie.. no actual cost involved).. why wasnt the problem fixed and warrent given?

My thoughts exactly.. if ANZA have even a modestly equipped workshop, they could have said "heres ya warrant, we had to pump the tyre up, keep an eye on yer tyre pressures"

Instead they sent an inexperienced rider back out on the road with a tyre that could unexpectedly deflate.

Logpot
18th December 2009, 07:54
Doesnt really matter who tested it, im justt really interested in the question, should i kick up a fuss because they passed the bike 6 months ago???

It does when your story is confusing people.

Did the workshop who fitted the tire originally do your warrant testing or was it just a testing station?

If it was a mechanical workshop that failed you without sorting your tire before you rode off it is very poor form on their part.

Headbanger
18th December 2009, 08:01
Hi all, need a bit of advice,




Don't deal with ANZA.

Okey Dokey
18th December 2009, 08:02
ummmmmmmmmm? I am a little confused being as the remedy is to let the tyre down and pump it up again seating it properly (ie.. no actual cost involved).. why wasnt the problem fixed and warrent given?

Far out! Like the OP, I wasn't sure I understood the problem, but after reading this I am flabbergasted!

FROSTY
18th December 2009, 08:43
There is a fair bit of assuming going on here.
The main assumption being that the tyre has indeed been off its bead the entire 6 months.
Gosh darn it Ive seen fully inflated tyres with Grass jammed between the rim and the tyre wall as the result of a relatively minor crash. And I've seen propperly beaded tyres go flat and when pumped up sit wrong on the bead.
I've also done a recompliance on a bike with a really deep V in the front tyre. I missed it. The engineer missed it and the compliance guy missed it.
Every time I guess the wheel was positioned wrong.
Yes they may have missed it last time but then again maybee not.
That said I find it hard to believe that a WOF place let you ride away if it was that bad.
actually thats anotherr assumption

ManDownUnder
18th December 2009, 09:13
yeah, much ado about nothing - it's a minor fix. Take it to a bike shop or anyone you know that's mechanical and it should be a done deal.

FROSTY
18th December 2009, 09:22
One thing though. There is the matter of personal responsibility. The owner of the bike is ultimately responsible for their own safety.
By that a WOF isn't a promise the bike is going to be fine for another 6 months --its a snapshot of the bike as it stood on the day of the wof.

danielle
18th December 2009, 11:22
So i brought the new bike maybe 8 months ago and when i brought it the guy said he had new tires fittted. A month after i had it i took it in for its warrent and it flew through. 6 months later it fails because of the bead thing and im going to go pick it up today no idea how much it will cost...=/

May be just human error. Who knows. At least im still alive=D

quickbuck
18th December 2009, 11:48
.... no idea how much it will cost...



Should cost you nothing.... Air is free.... time isn't I admit, but good will is easy to earn if you handle a simple situation effectively....
I guess (Yes, another assumption Frosty) it was the same shop that sold you the bike??
Else, why go there when there is a Suzuki shop around the road...

quickbuck
18th December 2009, 11:51
One thing though. There is the matter of personal responsibility. The owner of the bike is ultimately responsible for their own safety.
By that a WOF isn't a promise the bike is going to be fine for another 6 months --its a snapshot of the bike as it stood on the day of the wof.

This is 100% TRUE!

I can see a need for..........................
Nope, not going to put my idea all over the world wide web!

danielle
18th December 2009, 13:26
Note: they fixed it before giving it back to me. Do we really think anyone would be that stupid to knowingly get back on a dangerous bike? =D

FROSTY
18th December 2009, 17:33
Note: they fixed it before giving it back to me. Do we really think anyone would be that stupid to knowingly get back on a dangerous bike? =D
Mlady I wont comment on that

quickbuck
18th December 2009, 18:03
Note: they fixed it before giving it back to me. Do we really think anyone would be that stupid to knowingly get back on a dangerous bike? =D

So... I take it that it was only the cost of a WOF inspection on the bill???

Pixie
26th December 2009, 16:45
There is a fair bit of assuming going on here.
The main assumption being that the tyre has indeed been off its bead the entire 6 months.
Gosh darn it Ive seen fully inflated tyres with Grass jammed between the rim and the tyre wall as the result of a relatively minor crash. And I've seen propperly beaded tyres go flat and when pumped up sit wrong on the bead.
I've also done a recompliance on a bike with a really deep V in the front tyre. I missed it. The engineer missed it and the compliance guy missed it.
Every time I guess the wheel was positioned wrong.
Yes they may have missed it last time but then again maybee not.
That said I find it hard to believe that a WOF place let you ride away if it was that bad.
actually thats anotherr assumption

All goes to support my contention the WOF is a load of shit.
Plenty of countries get by with no such requirement.

Fucking lottery

Pixie
26th December 2009, 16:49
So i brought the new bike maybe 8 months ago and when i brought it the guy said he had new tires fittted. A month after i had it i took it in for its warrent and it flew through. 6 months later it fails because of the bead thing and im going to go pick it up today no idea how much it will cost...=/

May be just human error. Who knows. At least im still alive=D

The dipshit that fitted the tyre did not lubricate the beads properly.
I've fitted many tyres and never needed to exceed 40 psi to seat the bead on any of them