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Rupe
19th December 2009, 22:14
Got a KDX200 1998 with a damaged cylinder bore (run without pre-mix). Looks like I can get it bored and replated, or Wiseco do a sleave kit for it.
Never done either before, anyone know where to take it for either option and whats involved??
krad_nz
19th December 2009, 22:26
Guessing Spectrum would be the guys to ask. They may be able to do it themselves and if not I'm sure they would recommend someone who could.
barty5
20th December 2009, 08:22
i have an engineer who will do it but it will cost due to any tips that break due to the nikasil being so hard.
nallac
20th December 2009, 08:32
Had an 95 KDX that had the bottom end bearing let go and destroy the coating, Had the bike shop price out the options
from memory 4-500 for sleaving
600odd for recoating in OZ
900 for a new one.....
i went new as the shop went halfs in parts and no labour costs,
the joys of selling trade in bikes.......
Any Decent bike shop should be able to point you in the right direction.
Rcktfsh
20th December 2009, 09:13
replating is superior to re sleeving, haven't used these guys but have heard good things.. http://www.nzcylinders.com/
Kickaha
20th December 2009, 09:18
replating is superior to re sleeving, haven't used these guys but have heard good things.. http://www.nzcylinders.com/
Diesel Pig just had his Husky cylinder done by them, think it was about $500 including a repair
theblacksmith
20th December 2009, 09:24
I had a n 88 kx125 rebored and a sleeve fitted.Cost around 600 including piston. Apparently a cast iron sleeve can be nikasiled as well.
I got the work done at Farm and Trail Engineering in Te Awamutu
scott411
20th December 2009, 09:37
NZ Cylinders do a great job, have used them on a few different bikes with no problems, they are around $500, it is a much better option than a sleeve,
tommorth
20th December 2009, 16:32
had the cyl on my 200 done by nz cyl they did a great job and a very quick turnaround was close to 600 with postage and repairs to a couple of cracks
Rupe
20th December 2009, 19:10
NZ Cylinders do a great job, have used them on a few different bikes with no problems, they are around $500, it is a much better option than a sleeve,
Ok, might give them a call tomorrow. Thanks
Here's a few picks of the damage
cheese
20th December 2009, 19:12
Rupe, just get a second hand one of ebay. I'll see if I can find one.
Rupe
20th December 2009, 19:15
Rupe, just get a second hand one of ebay. I'll see if I can find one.
Sweet as, find me one
cheese
20th December 2009, 19:16
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There is 2 second hand ones. Otherwise if you're just going to flick it, call boss engineering in Wanganui and they are pretty cheap to sleeve it.
Rupe
20th December 2009, 19:21
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There is 2 second hand ones. Otherwise if you're just going to flick it, call boss engineering in Wanganui and they are pretty cheap to sleeve it.
The first link doesn't work, and the 2nd cylinder doesn't look any better than mine!!!
cheese
20th December 2009, 20:15
The first one was a replated one and bored out do 220cc. just search on ebay you lazy pom.
camchain
20th December 2009, 20:39
Interesting pics rupe, wow that's ripped the plating right off, plus a nasty ding in port. With no premix you'd think you'd feel it start to nip up and stop before doing all that damage. Did the guy lend it someone?
Rupe
20th December 2009, 20:48
Interesting pics rupe, wow that's ripped the plating right off, plus a nasty ding in port. With no premix you'd think you'd feel it start to nip up and stop before doing all that damage. Did the guy lend it someone?
It was his baby, but when he got a new bike he gave it to his son. Who took out with his mates and ruined it. It's pretty bad, but I'm going to fix it properly.
F5 Dave
21st December 2009, 13:40
Don't screw around, plate it you'll be fine for the life of the bike unless someone does something stupid. 2nd hand gets you unknown photoshop.
Sleeves are a drag on performance.
Very hard to plate iron, can be done but most places can't successfully.
barty5
21st December 2009, 14:10
its being sent away to day
Rupe
27th December 2009, 20:46
Ok, got the cylinder back. Can someone with a KDX have a look to see what screws into this hole under the exhuast port, and let me know????
Rupe
27th December 2009, 20:55
here's what the cylinder came back like from NZ Cylinders
Rupe
27th December 2009, 21:34
Ok, got the cylinder back. Can someone with a KDX have a look to see what screws into this hole under the exhuast port, and let me know????
Ok worked it out, it's a plug. Which I don't have :Pokey:
barty5
27th December 2009, 21:38
Ok worked it out, it's a plug. Which I don't have :Pokey:
yes was in the bag of bits
flyingcr250
28th December 2009, 22:25
from the looks of the photos it looks like they did good work. whats is like around the edges of the ports etc..... ill have to get mine recoated next time i do a piston.
krad_nz
28th December 2009, 23:57
Looks pretty sweet. Before and after comparison is pretty amazing.
Rupe
29th December 2009, 07:50
Looks pretty sweet. Before and after comparison is pretty amazing.
They had one they had already fixed sitting on the shelf, they sent up and kept mine.
crazyxr250rider
29th December 2009, 16:56
I strugle to see how they can justify charging $500 too media blast and electroplate a small part....
Kickaha
29th December 2009, 17:49
I strugle to see how they can justify charging $500 too media blast and electroplate a small part....
If it's so easy why don't you start up doing it? there's a bit more to it than that especially if it needs repairs
barty5
29th December 2009, 20:30
I strugle to see how they can justify charging $500 too media blast and electroplate a small part....
the equipment costs a shit load being in bussiness myself you have to be able to re cope cost in some way try sending it overseas it will cost the same if not more and they give good service. I had this done for rupe and they where happy to go in and do it over the holiday while they where closed it he really wanted to get it done while off work so big ups to them in customer service.
jt119
29th December 2009, 20:51
They had one they had already fixed sitting on the shelf, they sent up and kept mine.good deal cheaper than a new one you going to have it out over the hols no some good down hills
Rupe
29th December 2009, 21:29
the equipment costs a shit load being in bussiness myself you have to be able to re cope cost in some way try sending it overseas it will cost the same if not more and they give good service. I had this done for rupe and they where happy to go in and do it over the holiday while they where closed it he really wanted to get it done while off work so big ups to them in customer service.
yep they did a mint job, even got a 1yr warrenty. Thanks for sorting it out, big help.
was passing the workshop today and had a look, for that bit. It was lying on the floor by the roller door. Only problem is it's leaking coolant which I think is the impella seal (one of the only seals not in a gasket set). So off to spectrum to be bum raped for a genuine one.
Rupe
29th December 2009, 21:48
good deal cheaper than a new one you going to have it out over the hols no some good down hills
I'll give you a txt. Prob be on the kxf mate, alhough do need to run the kdx in.
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