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paddy
21st December 2009, 16:13
I don't know if we have any chemists here, but I do know we have a lot of know-it-alls. So here is my question: Why does Detol turn cloudy when you add it to water?

wbks
21st December 2009, 16:18
I don't know if we have any chemists here, but I do know we have a lot of know-it-alls. So here is my question: Why does Detol turn cloudy when you add it to water?The magnesium permanganate forms a cohesive bond with the valance shell of the fluride thiosulfate once heated by the water, creating the cloudy substance you see in front of you. Some say it alters the magnetic field of highly powered electrical devices when made in large quantities

Laxi
21st December 2009, 16:18
you been smokin somint? start pondering all the important things in life? :lol:

yungatart
21st December 2009, 16:21
It just does!
Why do ya have to go around questioning everything?

P38
21st December 2009, 16:25
Because it contains phenols and/or some phenolic compounds .

Actually any disinfectant that contains phenols and/or some phenolic compounds will turn cloudy when mixed with water.

And Yes you guessed it.........

I'm not a "Chemist" so that only leaves one other choice :whistle: :msn-wink: :niceone:

P38
21st December 2009, 16:26
The magnesium permanganate forms a cohesive bond with the valance shell of the fluride thiosulfate once heated by the water, creating the cloudy substance you see in front of you. Some say it alters the magnetic field of highly powered electrical devices when made in large quantities

Close!!!!

But no Cigar this time.

wbks
21st December 2009, 16:28
Close!!!!

But no Cigar this time.I missed the sodium bicarbonate, right?

AllanB
21st December 2009, 16:31
It's the Sea Monkeys being activated - they are the active ingredient that actually does the cleaning.

P38
21st December 2009, 16:31
I missed the sodium bicarbonate, right?

Yep ....... :yes::msn-wink:

Ixion
21st December 2009, 16:55
Chloro-dimethyl phenol specifically. AKA chloroxylenol. Also called Lysol in the USA.

The active ingredient has a low solubility in water.

In the bottle it is kept dissolved in pine oil and isopropanol. When added to excess of water the insoluble DMP drops out of solution , causing the white appearance.

I is (was, anyway) a chemist

paddy
21st December 2009, 17:02
Chloro-dimethyl phenol specifically. AKA chloroxylenol. Also called Lysol in the USA.

The active ingredient has a low solubility in water.

In the bottle it is kept dissolved in pine oil and isopropanol. When added to excess of water the insoluble DMP drops out of solution , causing the white appearance.

I is (was, anyway) a chemist

Thanks Ixion, that makes perfect sense. Now I can sleep at night. :-)

wbks
21st December 2009, 17:08
Chloro-dimethyl phenol specifically. AKA chloroxylenol. Also called Lysol in the USA.

The active ingredient has a low solubility in water.

In the bottle it is kept dissolved in pine oil and isopropanol. When added to excess of water the insoluble DMP drops out of solution , causing the white appearance.

I is (was, anyway) a chemistPaddy, take it from me, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about... Some people are only in it for the image!

:banana:

paddy
21st December 2009, 17:55
Paddy, take it from me, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about... Some people are only in it for the image!

:banana:

LoL. I'll get out my magnets and my Detol now.

Skyryder
21st December 2009, 17:56
I don't know if we have any chemists here, but I do know we have a lot of know-it-alls. So here is my question: Why does Detol turn cloudy when you add it to water?

Climate warming.:Oops:



Skyryder

martybabe
21st December 2009, 17:57
I don't know if we have any chemists here, but I do know we have a lot of know-it-alls. So here is my question: Why does Detol turn cloudy when you add it to water?

Sounds like it's off to me mate, don't drink it get a fresh bottle eh. :drinkup:

P38
21st December 2009, 17:59
Take One Know All, Add One Chemist = Mystery Solved.

All is good in the world again. :apint:

caseye
21st December 2009, 18:05
Paddy, take it from me, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about... Some people are only in it for the image!

:banana:

LOL, nice work there wbks:

Pussy
21st December 2009, 18:45
So it's an emulsifiable concentrate just like butyl ester 2,4-D ?

Skyryder
21st December 2009, 18:47
So it's an emulsifiable concentrate just like butyl ester 2,4-D ?

And here's me thinking all these years it's the water that turns cloudy.:angry2:


Skyryder

MisterD
21st December 2009, 19:05
Chloro-dimethyl phenol specifically. AKA chloroxylenol. Also called Lysol in the USA.

The active ingredient has a low solubility in water.

In the bottle it is kept dissolved in pine oil and isopropanol. When added to excess of water the insoluble DMP drops out of solution , causing the white appearance.

I is (was, anyway) a chemist

So...does this mean I should be drinking Dettol or cleaning the floors with Ouzo?

Crisis management
21st December 2009, 19:06
So...does this mean I should be drinking Dettol or cleaning the floors with Ouzo?

Just stop mixing them with water and you'll be fine.

LBD
21st December 2009, 19:31
Sounds like it's off to me mate, don't drink it get a fresh bottle eh. :drinkup:

A good scotch can go cloudy with a wee bit o water added....as does engine oil...

Ixion
21st December 2009, 19:59
So it's an emulsifiable concentrate just like butyl ester 2,4-D ?


Not quite. It has no oxygen atom. Esters have a O=R linkage. Dettol has Cl-R. (and a couple of methyl groups )

Very similar though, a substituted aromatic. Esters usually smell sweet and nice (many perfumes and fragramnces are based on esters). Dettol doesn't exactly smell nice.

Definaetly emulsified, certainly. There must be a bit of natural soap of similar in the formula.

Tone165
21st December 2009, 20:05
The active ingredient of "Dettol" is alkyl dimethyl benzylammonium chloride, which is a miscible compound, or in laymans terms, a water soluble oil.

It is VERY poisonous to many animals, and should never be used on cats, or anything that a dog might chew.

On a good note...here in Qld we use it to kill Cane toads...it stops them in their tracks! and not as messy as the traditional "golf" method.

P38
21st December 2009, 20:54
A good scotch can go cloudy with a wee bit o water added....as does engine oil...

You shouldn't be polluting the whisky with water. :yes:

LBD
21st December 2009, 23:29
You shouldn't be polluting the whisky with water. :yes:

Wrong...a wee drop releases flavours and odors...

Actually the world is pretty evenly split on the subject...

ManDownUnder
21st December 2009, 23:37
Oh God do I have to explain everything to you clowns?

The water reacts with Dettol to form "wafty stuff" which doesn't let the light through so well. Wafty stuff is really agressive stuff too which is why it kills bugs. That also explains why it wafts out to the sides of the bowl, because it's looking for new things to conquor or have a perv out of the side of the bowl.

It's like Sodium Hydroxide mixing with Lithium to form "boomy stuff". Similar except it's airborn and a tad more agressive.

I loved 3rd form chemistry. I took notes so I'm told.

LBD
22nd December 2009, 00:29
agressive stuff too which is why it kills bugs. I loved 3rd form chemistry. I took notes so I'm told.

Scotch kills bugs too.....

Brian d marge
22nd December 2009, 02:11
Whats this water shyte u fellas keep referring to?

Stephen

Juzz976
22nd December 2009, 02:42
I don't know if we have any chemists here, but I do know we have a lot of know-it-alls. So here is my question: Why does Detol turn cloudy when you add it to water?

For the same reason water turns cloudy when when you add it to detol, duhh!

Juzz976
22nd December 2009, 02:43
Whats this water shyte u fellas keep referring to?

Stephen

H2O its some sort of polar solvent widely used for just about everything.

Juzz976
22nd December 2009, 02:49
Very similar though, a substituted aromatic. Esters usually smell sweet and nice (many perfumes and fragramnces are based on esters). Dettol doesn't exactly smell nice.
.

If you would add common manufactured esters are sweet smelling and usually an ester is desernable by smell not notifiably a sweet one. Then yeh I guess one could make an assumption that there is a possibility of similarity.

LBD
22nd December 2009, 04:12
And 50/50 dettol and olive or baby oil is a good sand fly repellant

paddy
22nd December 2009, 05:05
. . .Dettol doesn't exactly smell nice

What do you mean? I've always loved the smell of Detol. Besides, after soaking overnight, my beach sandals smell like Detol which is much nicer than what they smelt like before. :-)

peasea
22nd December 2009, 06:19
I don't know if we have any chemists here, but I do know we have a lot of know-it-alls. So here is my question: Why does Detol turn cloudy when you add it to water?

The two compounds are at odds with each other. When the Dettol is added to the water all the protons and neutrons start arguing, creating friction, and smoke is released. It's the smoke that you can see. All smoke bombs contain Dettol and water.

Pixie
22nd December 2009, 06:23
ALL BULLSHIT!

It's the ghosts of all the billions of bacteria,of which Detol kills 99%,putting on their white sheets with the eyeholes,that make the water go cloudy.

Ronin
22nd December 2009, 07:18
ALL BULLSHIT!

It's the ghosts of all the billions of bacteria,of which Detol kills 99%,putting on their white shhets with the eyeholes,that make the water go cloudy.

best.answer.yet.

Skyryder
22nd December 2009, 07:37
Wrong...a wee drop releases flavours and odors...

Actually the world is pretty evenly split on the subject...

Yep even some of the connoisseurs advocate a little water.


But the 'tasters' never do. I'm with these guys. Why add water when those that 'tast' for quality don't.


Skyryder

peasea
22nd December 2009, 12:32
ALL BULLSHIT!

It's the ghosts of all the billions of bacteria,of which Detol kills 99%,putting on their white shhets with the eyeholes,that make the water go cloudy.

White sheets with eyeholes? Are they KKK members?

LBD
22nd December 2009, 17:15
Yep even some of the connoisseurs advocate a little water.


But the 'tasters' never do. I'm with these guys. Why add water when those that 'tast' for quality don't.


Skyryder

Call me a wouse if you like, but I don't taste for quality, I taste to enjoy...And almost finished my 18yo Banahabbein...ready to start a McKillops choice from another Isaly distillery...

Tastes and smells nothing like Dettol either

george formby
22nd December 2009, 17:23
The active ingredient of "Dettol" is alkyl dimethyl benzylammonium chloride, which is a miscible compound, or in laymans terms, a water soluble oil.

It is VERY poisonous to many animals, and should never be used on cats, or anything that a dog might chew.

On a good note...here in Qld we use it to kill Cane toads...it stops them in their tracks! and not as messy as the traditional "golf" method.

You serious? I put dettol in the water when i rinse the dog off, kills the fleas, either that or the fleas flee.:eek5:

tri boy
22nd December 2009, 18:39
I had sex with an unclean octopus once, (okay then, three times).
The Doc said "dip it in Dettol". The octopus didn't survive the dipping.:crybaby:

Pixie
22nd December 2009, 18:46
White sheets with eyeholes? Are they KKK members?

Ghosts wear sheets.Haven't you ever read a comic or seen a cartoon?

Skyryder
22nd December 2009, 19:05
Call me a wouse if you like, but I don't taste for quality, I taste to enjoy...And almost finished my 18yo Banahabbein...ready to start a McKillops choice from another Isaly distillery...

Tastes and smells nothing like Dettol either



Quality and tast are the same when it comes to single malts. That's where the 'enjoyment' comes from. Nope ya not a wouse no whiskey drinker is a wouse.

Some are known by other names but they usually drink the blends.:argh:


Skyryder

Pussy
22nd December 2009, 19:10
Very similar though, a substituted aromatic. Esters usually smell sweet and nice (many perfumes and fragramnces are based on esters). Dettol doesn't exactly smell nice.



Butyl ester 2,4-D doesn't smell nice!
Whenever I have sprayed prickles with it, I have tended to "wear" the aroma of it for some time afterwards. Even my cats don't want to know me!

P38
22nd December 2009, 19:52
Yep even some of the connoisseurs advocate a little water.


But the 'tasters' never do. I'm with these guys. Why add water when those that 'tast' for quality don't.


Skyryder

I'm with you on this one.

Water just gets in the way of the total experiance.

peasea
23rd December 2009, 05:02
Ghosts wear white sheets.Haven't you ever read a comic or seen a cartoon?

Yes, yes, yes, that's one option.

Pixie
23rd December 2009, 07:26
H2O its some sort of polar solvent widely used for just about everything.

That'll be way the ice caps are melting,then?

tri boy
23rd December 2009, 17:35
I feel sorry for the Elephants

inlinefour
23rd December 2009, 17:38
I don't know if we have any chemists here, but I do know we have a lot of know-it-alls. So here is my question: Why does Detol turn cloudy when you add it to water?

Because it wants too, do you have a problem with that?:buggerd: