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SpikedPunch
28th December 2009, 18:19
Okay, I'm sweaty and sandy and gross and pissed off and I haven't even been riding! Doing some regular bike maintenance today, and my bike has decided it doesn't want to start. Again. Not any of the other problems it seems to have had, it will start, but only if I give it a little gas, which I thought was bad and evil and would cause a cold seize. Is this ok? What could it mean?
Out of paranoia I'm gonna go do a compression test in a min or two, but to be honest I don't really want to know, it wasn't that long ago since I did the piston.... :(
Oh, also, my choke doesn't want to stay up, what's up with that?! It keeps popping back down. Bastard little thing...

theblacksmith
28th December 2009, 18:25
Get the choke lever to stay up somehow and then see how it runs cold with choke-if u cant be bothered fixing the choke , get someone to hold it on for ya while u kick it.
Hey can ya pop a pic of the choke mechanism on here?

flyingcr250
28th December 2009, 18:26
Okay, I'm sweaty and sandy and gross and pissed off and I haven't even been riding! Doing some regular bike maintenance today, and my bike has decided it doesn't want to start. Again. Not any of the other problems it seems to have had, it will start, but only if I give it a little gas, which I thought was bad and evil and would cause a cold seize. Is this ok? What could it mean?
Out of paranoia I'm gonna go do a compression test in a min or two, but to be honest I don't really want to know, it wasn't that long ago since I did the piston.... :(
Oh, also, my choke doesn't want to stay up, what's up with that?! It keeps popping back down. Bastard little thing...

could be a bit of shit in the idle jet?

as for the choke sometimes mine slips down by its self.

L Rider
28th December 2009, 18:38
Okay, I'm sweaty and sandy and gross and pissed off and I haven't even been riding! Doing some regular bike maintenance today, and my bike has decided it doesn't want to start. Again. Not any of the other problems it seems to have had, it will start, but only if I give it a little gas, which I thought was bad and evil and would cause a cold seize. Is this ok? What could it mean?
Out of paranoia I'm gonna go do a compression test in a min or two, but to be honest I don't really want to know, it wasn't that long ago since I did the piston.... :(
Oh, also, my choke doesn't want to stay up, what's up with that?! It keeps popping back down. Bastard little thing...

How much is a 'little gas'. Like, were you starting using no throttle before? Its normal to use some throttle just not heaps which can cause the cold seizure.
As for you choke - is a push down pull up thing??? Mine did work, then john cleaned carb & it wouldn't stay up, then suddenly it did lol so I have no fix there sorry.

SpikedPunch
28th December 2009, 18:51
Blacksmith - Tried that, got poor old mum who hates bikes to help me!
L rider - just a wee wee bit - so this isn't going to make my bike die a horrible death? :0 I can usually get it to go with none.

SpikedPunch
28th December 2009, 19:05
could be a bit of shit in the idle jet?

as for the choke sometimes mine slips down by its self.

Hmm maybe, pardon my dumbness, but that would just mean cleaning out the carb right? :0

flyingcr250
28th December 2009, 19:09
Hmm maybe, pardon my dumbness, but that would just mean cleaning out the carb right? :0

yea, sometimes small bits of stuff fall down into the carb when you take your airfilter off. it only takes a microscopic bit of crap to ruin your life ha ha ha, also you can check the choke plunger for wear or damage

SpikedPunch
28th December 2009, 19:16
yea, sometimes small bits of stuff fall down into the carb when you take your airfilter off. it only takes a microscopic bit of crap to ruin your life ha ha ha, also you can check the choke plunger for wear or damage

Excellent, that's something I know how to do haha :msn-wink:
Ok, it's getting dark so I'm gonna pack up soon, another hypochondriac oh-no-I-killed-my-bike Q, I took my spark plug out for a clean and when I did there was a bit of whitish smoke stuff coming out of the hole. Is my bike on fire and about to explode any minute? Are there tiny dragons living in my cylinder?

cheese
28th December 2009, 19:24
Bikes cold seize when people start them and rev the shit out of them cold. the piston expands too fast and locks in place. A bit of revs is not going to kill it. The rule of thumb I was taught is that if you can feel the radiators are warm you can start to give it some more decent revs.

cheese
28th December 2009, 19:24
P.s. that bike is doomed, burn it like all KTMs!!

flyingcr250
28th December 2009, 19:24
Excellent, that's something I know how to do haha :msn-wink:
Ok, it's getting dark so I'm gonna pack up soon, another hypochondriac oh-no-I-killed-my-bike Q, I took my spark plug out for a clean and when I did there was a bit of whitish smoke stuff coming out of the hole. Is my bike on fire and about to explode any minute? Are there tiny dragons living in my cylinder?

you can buy tiny knights you put down the spark plug hole to combat little dragons, otherwise it might just be leftover exhaust or petrol vapors from all the kicking and non starting.:clap:

SpikedPunch
28th December 2009, 19:39
you can buy tiny knights you put down the spark plug hole to combat little dragons, otherwise it might just be leftover exhaust or petrol vapors from all the kicking and non starting.:clap:

Excellent, I'll see if cycletreads has any in stock tomorrow morning :msn-wink:

SpikedPunch
28th December 2009, 19:47
P.s. that bike is doomed, burn it like all KTMs!!

I can't tell you how many times I've thought about giving it a viking funeral, but I really like it when it goes! Bummer eh.

Rupe
28th December 2009, 20:02
I can't tell you how many times I've thought about giving it a viking funeral, but I really like it when it goes! Bummer eh.

PM me your email address. got a kx85/kx100 workshop manual I can send you whicj has step by step instructions on how to clean you carb, take your choke apart etc.

And yeah cheese is right, warm your bike up properly (a bit of revs, but not heaps) espcially if you have a forged piston. Warm radiator is a good indication of a warm bike.

barty5
28th December 2009, 20:20
use to find if there was small bts stuck in jets that once it was warm give it a hand full and open the choke sometimes helped to clear saved a strip down

laserracer
28th December 2009, 20:48
Excellent, I'll see if cycletreads has any in stock tomorrow morning :msn-wink:

i think you might need ....Dragon Slayer ....in a can..its made by crc:niceone:
failing that i think Dragons like fair maidens..:cool:

flyingcr250
28th December 2009, 20:50
i think you might need ....Dragon Slayer ....in a can..its made by crc:niceone:
failing that i think Dragons like fair maidens..:cool:

but the one on shrek liked donkeys

cheese
28th December 2009, 21:52
Does it smoke like fuck when it runs? wonder if it a crank seal gone?

Reckless
28th December 2009, 23:13
warm your bike up properly (a bit of revs, but not heaps) espcially if you have a forged piston. Warm radiator is a good indication of a warm bike.

I feel the barrel is warming up, don't want to take the risk the thermostat hasn't opened its also the bit that needs to be warming.

laserracer
29th December 2009, 06:47
but the one on shrek liked donkeys

Thats it thats the answer ...shove a donkey down your plug hole....fixed just like that....i always wanted to say that to my mrs but she doesnt own a bike ..so would be hazardous to my health

B0000M
29th December 2009, 08:40
I feel the barrel is warming up, don't want to take the risk the thermostat hasn't opened its also the bit that needs to be warming.

your bike has a thermostat??? thats fancy


start up that rm, anything upto half its rev range isnt going to kill it, especially just free revving.


i used to know a guy who would warm his bike up by starting it and revving the shit out of it, and he never had any problems, in fact ive seen it heaps of times with no trouble, i just wouldnt make a habit of it

FROSTY
29th December 2009, 08:52
Shake the shit out of the bike (seriously) Drain the carb.
remove the plug and kick a couple of times then fit a new plug. I bet itll run fine

laserracer
29th December 2009, 14:37
Sorry spikey i didnt mean to shove a donkey in your plughole...just wind him in like a spark plug..when he goes heeeehhore its time to stop...fixed ...well almost all you have to do now is release the dragon in your cylinder and the donkey thats screwed into your head and WALLAH fixed:banana: