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countryguy
3rd January 2010, 08:36
Ok, so what do you guys normal carry when doing say day trips in remote areas particuarly by yourself.
I'm thinking;
- chain links and breaker
- tyre pando's (can you still buy this stuff) or is there an alternative. How easy is it to repair a puncture while
out riding.
- spare levers.
- some decent tools
- small first aid kit

dino3310
3rd January 2010, 09:20
i carry a few spare tools: pliers, cresent, multi wrench, allen keys, screw driver, tyrelevers, lecky tape, nead it, wire, bungy, chain, punture repair kit and pump. it all fits in a little pouch on the back of the seat.

Box'a'bits
3rd January 2010, 09:33
Ok, so what do you guys normal carry when doing say day trips in remote areas particuarly by yourself.
I'm thinking; chain links and breaker; tyre pando's; spare levers; some decent tools; small first aid kit

For gods sake DON'T take a tyre Panda. Those things DON'T repair most punctures, but do ruin the tubes (if you are running those), & make a hell of a mess. If you have tubes, grab some in the appropriate sizes for your wheels, or an average size tube (say 19" to run either in the front 21" & rear 18") if you want to save weight. Get some tyre irons. I use a DRC combined axle wrench & tyre iron, and a couple of smaller ones. If your bikes wheels are tubeless - tubeless repair kits are available & are easy to use.

Don't overpack tools. Look for multi use ones. Look at what you use most regularly on the bike. Make it good quality.

Pack your cell phone & charger. Make sure people know your approximate route.

Have a look in the sticky above, on what would be required for an adventure trip. Tools are discussed in greater depth there.
Steve

Squiggles
3rd January 2010, 19:23
I try to buy whatever TLDV8 has or nordie makes, fairly sorted then :lol:

Woodman
3rd January 2010, 20:10
Front and rear tubes, puncture repair kit, and my tyres are filled with slime, 2x tyre levers, allen keys, axle nut spaners, 8-10-12-13-14-17mm spanners ,pliers, a pocket knife, knead it, lots of cable ties, some tape, spare bungy, nuts and bolts, emergency blanket. Also have a brake and clutch lever permanently cable tied to the frame. Pretty sure that is all. Pretty much all fits in a pouch on the back.

JATZ
3rd January 2010, 20:17
Front and rear tubes, puncture repair kit, and my tyres are filled with slime, 2x tyre levers, allen keys, axle nut spaners, 8-10-12-13-14-17mm spanners ,pliers, a pocket knife, knead it, lots of cable ties, some tape, spare bungy, nuts and bolts, emergency blanket. Also have a brake and clutch lever permanently cable tied to the frame. Pretty sure that is all. Pretty much all fits in a pouch on the back.

Wot he said + wire joiners , heat shrink, sockets ,ratchet and extensions, 10" crecsent, vice grips, fine needle nose pliers and a litre of oil.

countryguy
3rd January 2010, 20:27
Thanks guys :-)

NordieBoy
3rd January 2010, 20:42
A pair of 18" Buzetti tyre levers :D

Taz
3rd January 2010, 21:07
Up until now i have only carried a cell phone and cash. Luckily I haven't needed to fix anything on the rides yet. Preparation is the key.

awayatc
3rd January 2010, 21:13
Cell phone...?

what would you do with that in the south island...?

once you are out of the cities?

Cellphones.....,

about as usefull as an ashtray on your bike

warewolf
3rd January 2010, 21:27
heat shrinkWe're not all smokers. You also need to add: ciggy lighter.


10' crecsent10 foot crescent? Ten FOOT crescent?! Whaddya gonna do, go jousting after you insult some knaves' wench?? Trying to get enough leverage to break the bead on a DR650??


and a litre of oil.most important for new KLR riders...


I'm not a fan of any of the gooey gluey slimy stuff to repair punctures, per BMWRSNUT. Just a single std 21" tube, it will fit a rear 18" no problem, is lighter and takes up less room. Carry a puncture repair kit for the second and subsequent punctures, plus windex in a small spray bottle as lube (can also be used on your visor/goggles/glasses). Cut your tyre levers in half, weld the axle spanners (or 150mm crescent) to them to reduce weight and bulk. The hardest bit about repairing punctures is getting the tyre off/on. This is A Good Thing to practice at home.

Vise-grip leatherman replaces needle nose pliers, pocket knife and vise-grips. Can be used as a gear lever, too.

Make sure you carry some change (coins). Can be combined with knead-it to fill larger crankcase holes.

Lastly, carrying the right tools to fit your bike is important, even if you have no clue or no intention of using them yourself. It is much easier to find a person that knows how to fix stuff, than it is to find that odd-sized tool.

Padmei
4th January 2010, 07:55
Cell phone...?

what would you do with that in the south island...?

once you are out of the cities?

Cellphones.....,

about as usefull as an ashtray on your bike

Oh Durr (as my kids say) you use it to take a photo of your bike & look at it till someone notices you're overdue by a few weeks.

or play solitaire...<_<

veny
4th January 2010, 08:05
Ok, anti-goo brigade :)
Assuming we are alone and changing a tube in the middle of nowhere, step one would be to get the wheel off. Use a center stand, carry a small jack or just dump the bike on it's side?

A spare spark plug hasn't been mentioned. Or are they super reliable now?

awayatc
4th January 2010, 08:11
haven't got a centre stand.......used my topbox once, and even just lashed bike up and against a post....
there are also posts about using a customised walking stick sort of a set up to poke in hole in bellypan...
if all else fails well you will have to lay her down flat...

Woodman
4th January 2010, 08:17
Get an iridium or platinum spark plug, they should last years.

NordieBoy
4th January 2010, 08:56
10 foot crescent? Ten FOOT crescent?! Whaddya gonna do, go jousting after you insult some knaves' wench?? Trying to get enough leverage to break the bead on a DR650??.

Or even some knaves wrench.



That's not a wrench! This is a wrench!

NordieBoy
4th January 2010, 08:59
A spare spark plug hasn't been mentioned. Or are they super reliable now?

The DR has a spare already :D

JATZ
4th January 2010, 10:05
We've needed a spare chain on one occasion and a spare rear sprocket would have been handy too, but thanks to Shrek (the brute) and a 10"crescent we carried on
You have to draw the line somewhere or we'd have to ride goldwings to carry all the crap

warewolf
4th January 2010, 10:12
Assuming we are alone and changing a tube in the middle of nowhere, step one would be to get the wheel off. Use a center stand, carry a small jack or just dump the bike on it's side?Do whatever ya gotta do. Just remember to turn the fuel off before dumping the bike on its side, and on again before riding off. DAMHIK.


A spare spark plug hasn't been mentioned. Or are they super reliable now?I carry a spare for the 2T (never used it) but not for the 4T... but would for more remote travelling... be prepared!


Get an iridium or platinum spark plug, they should last years.The normal ones last plenty long enough for normal use, but the extended service intervals of the precious metal ones would be useful for a RTW traveller.

buggsubique
4th January 2010, 10:33
depending on where I'm going I'll ride in different gear - eg my Army boots rather than MX boots. Makes for better walking just in case and reminds you to take it easy when you cop a footpeg in the shins. For me, going off the radar is about a shift in mindset / mental attitude as well. Always be thinking "what if" (I drop my bike on this river crossing...cant get back up this hill...arse off trying to get up that climb).

Padmei
4th January 2010, 12:22
"what if" (I drop my bike on this river crossing...cant get back up this hill...arse off trying to get up that climb).

Drop a bike in a river? Now who would go & do that ?

That looks like fun
4th January 2010, 18:15
I cant believe nobody has mentioned McGyver tape. What that cant fix just cannot be fixed I tell ya

bart
4th January 2010, 19:09
Ok, anti-goo brigade :)
Assuming we are alone and changing a tube in the middle of nowhere, step one would be to get the wheel off. Use a center stand, carry a small jack or just dump the bike on it's side?


Here's a piece of high-tech kit I carry around. Didn't cost much, and light weight too. Haven't had to use it in anger yet, but certainly helps when oiling the chain.

BMWST?
4th January 2010, 19:11
speaking about tyre levers,where do ya get them these days.The PD has developed a slow leak,I am gonna have a crak at it myself(used to do all my own tyres on teh old road bikes but i need tyre levers.

JATZ
4th January 2010, 19:42
speaking about tyre levers,where do ya get them these days.The PD has developed a slow leak,I am gonna have a crak at it myself(used to do all my own tyres on teh old road bikes but i need tyre levers.

Try ya local bike shop
or here>>>>> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Tyres/auction-263170457.htm ,if your not in a hurry, actually they look better than the little stubby ones I've got !

Padmei
4th January 2010, 19:44
Drop a bike in a river? Now who would go & do that ?

Not like Nordieboy to miss a cue...

NordieBoy
4th January 2010, 19:49
Not like Nordieboy to miss a cue...
No idea...
189042

warewolf
4th January 2010, 20:11
My upper body is still sore from the ride yesterday... hurts to draw a full breath. Shows what 4 months off the bike will do.

JATZ
4th January 2010, 20:26
I saw your bike @ the street races Werewolf and it did look like it needed a wash :shutup:

Woodman
4th January 2010, 20:26
Explain please, I need a laugh.

clint640
5th January 2010, 10:39
Zip ties are vital. I did 8000 odd km through outback Oz on one of those highly unreliable KTM's & zip ties fixed every single equipment problem I had, a comprehensive illustrated list follows:

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8542/p4090197.jpg

1. A buckle on my sandal broke.

:niceone:

Some fencing wire is also a good thing to take - zip tie a length each of a few different gauges on to your frame somewhere.

It was funny on the weekend, we visited some friends who were camping at Waiotahi Beach, all the gear: housebus, tents, 4x4s, quads, BBQs fridges etc. Nobody had any CRC to clean up the electrical contacts on the longline sub thingy though. 'No worries' sez I, I got a wee bottle'a that on the bike... The boys were impressed, but when travelling with Kawasakis ya have to take all kinds o' shit to keep em going. :bleh: :eek:

Cheers
Clint

Waihou Thumper
5th January 2010, 17:00
I do think footwear is important, yes...
When I ride longer distances I wear my soft tramping boots.
1. They are comfortable, waterproof.
2. If I have to walk they are comfortable and double as my evening attire too...:)
Some things are never going to help.
The best investment I have made recently is the AA Plus Card. Thanks GunnyRob...
After a ride around the East Cape, the $700 it cost AA to get me home from just outside Te Teko was invaluable......
No amount of spares would have recued me on that mission...
So, setting up is a mind set, preparation is okay but there are always variables that will farrk things up!
I would conside myself a careful preparer, afterall I was a boyscout :)
There is always something that will catch you out and when you get home, just pack it and sit back and think, Yes, I will do that next time....
Enjoy! It is Adventure riding afterall, be resourceful, have an out, cellphone or AA card and worst case scenario, cry at the side of the road or track and hope like hell someone arrives with a trailer...:)

depending on where I'm going I'll ride in different gear - eg my Army boots rather than MX boots. Makes for better walking just in case and reminds you to take it easy when you cop a footpeg in the shins. For me, going off the radar is about a shift in mindset / mental attitude as well. Always be thinking "what if" (I drop my bike on this river crossing...cant get back up this hill...arse off trying to get up that climb).

Box'a'bits
5th January 2010, 17:15
I don't use tramping boots anymore. They used to be great at removing the carb bowl clips on the BMW (fuel pissing everywhere), AND I've gone down a time or two when the laces wrapped in the gear lever etc. Actually Mandy just dropped the Gilera a few days ago when her laces got caught on the side stand. Go to put your foot down, and find you can't. Thunk... :crazy:

So Mark care to elaborate on this East Coast breakdown?

Waihou Thumper
5th January 2010, 17:27
Well, after GunnyRobs adventure on the Motu, I came home and promptly upgraded the AA membership as it was due at the time. I left early, got all around the East Cape including a great ride along the beach and the road to the Lighthouse...:)
Made it to Te Teko, approx 845Km into a 1000Km day, and then all hell broke loose..
Somehow my front countershaft sprocket had disintegrated! I had 35km'hr in first until I hit an incline then it just spun freely. I had come to the end of a great day...
I called the AA, I was there watching shooting stars and satellites for a couple of hours and when they arrived, it was onto the bed of a truck and home to Te Aroha. Got there at 1am...:)
Best money ever spent! in my mind....Always there in my pocket for the inconceived, unprepared and downright nasty situation. I had no idea what happened, there was plenty of teeth on the front when I checked it a few days before...Hmm?
So, suffice to say, it has all been changed, renewed and greased, oiled and tightened. Took me most of today!
I say and recommend if you are riding on your own and a long way from home, get the AA Plus Card today...! :)/QUOTE]
I don't use tramping boots anymore. They used to be great at removing the carb bowl clips on the BMW (fuel pissing everywhere), AND I've gone down a time or two when the laces wrapped in the gear lever etc. Actually Mandy just dropped the Gilera a few days ago when her laces got caught on the side stand. Go to put your foot down, and find you can't. Thunk... :crazy:

So Mark care to elaborate on this East Coast breakdown?

countryguy
5th January 2010, 20:52
LOL...doubt the AA would help me out. Most of my riding will be on remote stations in the Sth Island. Do the AA operate Helicopters and how would I contact them...Sat Phone ;-)

GPS MAN
17th January 2010, 10:01
Hummmmm.. Have to explore that AA Card idea.....