Plastic crap under seat

[kaeta]

Hi,

I am currently turning my zzr250 into a streetfighter /naked style bike.
I have removed the rear side panels and the plastic mudguard under the seat as i like the open frame look but it has just occured to me i may need the plastic mudguard for a WOF. I had looked at the LTSA website guidlines but they aren't very clear. I am after something similar to this look.

Would this be legal here in NZ or do i need the crap under the seat? I am going to fabricate a number plate and plate light bracket to sit roughly under the tail light, indicators bolt into factory made holes on the frame.


Thanks for any help
http://forums.ninja250.org/viewtopic.php?p=785304&sid=93a61c507898293d747d73f2e4409be9#785304

[98tls]

I doubt theres any reqirement for a mudguard at rear as such,i years ago binned all the plastic on the rear end of my old thing for an aftermarket undertray with no Wof problems,thing is though with nothing there your going to get shit flying everywhere not to mention what it would be like riding in the wet.

[cs363]

Unless it's changed (this is an old checksheet), there is a spot for 'mudguards' on the vehicle checksheet (see attached) and with the amount of stuff you've cut off/modified, most WOF inspectors are going to be taking a pretty good look at everything on your bike. If I were you I'd check with whoever does your warrants before you start cutting....

(The undertray as per 98tls's post above acts as a mudguard, so no problem for WOF with that)

[kaeta]

cool thanks, I haven't cut the plastics so i can put them back on if needed. Good point about riding in the wet, never thought about that , may have to rethink things. one thing i have thought of is to put a mx guard on it , mount it to the swing arm by the shock some how.

One more thing, do you need to do low volume certs for this sort of stuff?

All my lights are e-maked and i haven't modified any frame work, just basicallly stripped the fairings off, custom made headlight bracket (8' round headlight) off the factory guage bracket with factory guages and one lefthand mirror off the clutch leaver. I'm trying to do this on the cheap to get it on the road again.

Last time i went for a WOF about 1 year ago it was stock standard

[98tls]

If your going with one mirror make it the righthand one,a bar-end one is all you need.

[kaeta]

cool thanks for that

[rwh]

... custom made headlight bracket (8' round headlight) ...

That's pretty big. A bit hard to see past, I would think ... or perhaps you mean 8"? :)

Richard

[kaeta]

its to blind all the cage drivers ;) i might try fabricating a undertray out of thin sheet metal /alloy when i go back to work.

[CookMySock]

Even if they bounce you on some little thing like a mudguard, quite likely you can roll up a little bit of steel and tig some brackets on it, just to keep them happy.

Yeah wheels turn into waterblasters in the rain, and piss spray everywhere.

Steve

[quickbuck]

its to blind all the cage drivers ;)

An 8' headlight would certainly do that! ;)

Just quietly though, it isn't a very good plan to pi$$ off people who are incharge of 1.5 tonnes, or more, of metal who you have to share the road with....

As for the Problem with a mudguard, what is wrong with a wheel hugger? Refer to the big silver plastic thing on the bike in my profile pic if you are unsure.
Many naked bikes have them already...

[kaeta]

I know i have been riding for 6 yrs, i was just kidding.

I wasn't too sure if that was classed as a full mudguard as generally mudguards are to stop crap from spraying up from the rear. well with 4x4s anyway. And i can't find one within my budget

[quickbuck]

I wasn't too sure if that was classed as a full mudguard as generally mudguards are to stop crap from spraying up from the rear. well with 4x4s anyway. And i can't find one within my budget

You can get them in different lengths... So it is just a matter of looking around the wreckers yard, and then welding the mounts to your swing arm.
At the end of the day, that is about all that stops things like stones flying into the relatively expensive items under my seat....

[hayd3n]

You can get them in different lengths... So it is just a matter of looking around the wreckers yard, and then welding the mounts to your swing arm.
At the end of the day, that is about all that stops things like stones flying into the relatively expensive items under my seat....

by the looks of the images there aint much left under his seat

[quickbuck]

by the looks of the images there aint much left under his seat

You could be right...... I would worry about a stone flying into the rear brake reservoir though.... And I' not sure what is stopping things going down the carbs...
Been a little while since I have had a ZZR apart, but there most likely is a reg/rectifier in there somewhere too.... if not ignition modules...
Could be thinking too much Honda though, and they could well be up the front.

[I'll C U Jimmy]

HI Kaeta, you could try a hugger arrangement out of fibreglass. If you thing its worth a crack, I can talk you through the process, see attached during and after pics. It depends a bit on what you have to bolt up to on your swing arm.

[98tls]

An 8' headlight would certainly do that! ;)

Just quietly though, it isn't a very good plan to pi$$ off people who are incharge of 1.5 tonnes, or more, of metal who you have to share the road with....

As for the Problem with a mudguard, what is wrong with a wheel hugger? Refer to the big silver plastic thing on the bike in my profile pic if you are unsure.
Many naked bikes have them already...

A hugger unless it covers the entire rear wheel will stop bugger all water/crap from coating everything forward of it.Spent some $ on a complete aftermarket undertray years ago to rid my old TL of the fugly shite out back,have since had to make a guard to stop shit hitting the rear suspension damper,also had to apply stoneguard to the entire length of it to avoid endless repainting.

[98tls]

HI Kaeta, you could try a hugger arrangement out of fibreglass. If you thing its worth a crack, I can talk you through the process, see attached during and after pics. It depends a bit on what you have to bolt up to on your swing arm.

Got anymore pics of your bike fella?looks good.