Silly question re paddock stands...

[magicmonkey]

I was just wondering, is a rear paddock stand pretty much a universal thing or do certain types fit certain bikes?

[MSTRS]

If you need one, get a unifit. These have sort of swiveling cradles that go under your swingarm to lift the bike and can be adjusted in/out for different width swingarms.
The other sort is generally fixed for an individual bike, and uses a sort of slotted blade to lift on bobbins that screw into and stick out from the swingarm.
Your bike does not have bobbins.

[James Deuce]

You need a particular fitting. If the swing arm has bobbins fitted the you need hooks on the stand. If it doesn't you need angle brackets instead. If your rear brake caliper is mounted under the swingarm then the angle brackets may not work so you'll need bobbins, but if your swingarm doesn't have bobbin mounts then you'll need to get some welded on. If you don't want to do that and you have a hollow swingarm pivot, then you can get a stand that goes in there.

[hayd3n]

Your bike does not have bobbins.

lol his bike has a centre stand tho

[magicmonkey]

Your bike does not have bobbins.

It's not for the GN, my Aunt broke her wrist last year and it's causing her problems getting her bike on the centre stand; I was thinking about getting her a paddock stand so she could do her own chain adjustments/oiling etc.

[MSTRS]

lol his bike has a centre stand tho

Really? I wouldn't have thought a GN would.

[James Deuce]

They sure do!

[cs363]

It's not for the GN, my Aunt broke her wrist last year and it's causing her problems getting her bike on the centre stand; I was thinking about getting her a paddock stand so she could do her own chain adjustments/oiling etc.

What you want is one of these: http://wheeljockey.com/

[boman]

It's not for the GN, my Aunt broke her wrist last year and it's causing her problems getting her bike on the centre stand; I was thinking about getting her a paddock stand so she could do her own chain adjustments/oiling etc.

The paddock stand requires some mucking around with the bike whilst lifting it up. I would suggest you try one on her bike before you bought one. Just in case she has difficulty with it.

[cs363]

The paddock stand requires some mucking around with the bike whilst lifting it up. I would suggest you try one on her bike before you bought one. Just in case she has difficulty with it.

:niceone: Exactly my thoughts, hence the suggestion above - makes all those jobs like chain lubing/cleaning, wheel cleaning and finding the damn tyre valve sooo easy and it's a simple one person operation. As you say, paddock stands can be a bit awkward by oneself especially if you have any infirmities. :)

[pritch]

If you need one, get a unifit. These have sort of swiveling cradles that go under your swingarm to lift the bike and can be adjusted in/out for different width swingarms.
The other sort is generally fixed for an individual bike, and uses a sort of slotted blade to lift on bobbins that screw into and stick out from the swingarm.
Your bike does not have bobbins.

And the there's single sided swing arms, but I don't think GNs come with those...

[cs363]

And the there's single sided swing arms, but I don't think GNs come with those...

Only the very rare, limited edition GN250RR :whistle:

[magicmonkey]

What you want is one of these: http://wheeljockey.com/

Wow, that looks like the perfect tool! Nice one :2thumbsup

[quickbuck]

What you want is one of these: http://wheeljockey.com/

So.. That would be under $100 landed??

Looks the ducks for those workshop jobs.... that you need to do in the back and beyond too (thinking like after a trip over Danseys Pass).

[Quasi]

What they said. I have a paddock stand and always get one of my daughters to hold bike upright while i position and lift. Getting off stand is doable by myself (just) but i just dont have the dexterity (or apewoman arms) to hold bike upright and lift stand at same time.

[magicmonkey]

What they said. I have a paddock stand and always get one of my daughters to hold bike upright while i position and lift. Getting off stand is doable by myself (just) but i just dont have the dexterity (or apewoman arms) to hold bike upright and lift stand at same time.

It does seem a bit silly to me that they operate by cradling the lugs rather than having an attachment which clips over the whole lug and holds itself there, that'd allow you to position the bike with both arms then just use your foot for the stand...

Time for me to get on the invention block methinks!

[varminter]

I have a paddock stand, used it on the 250 no problems. Was cacking myself putting the V-Strom on it but no worries, when it's taken off the stand I just ease it down , let the side stand touch then gently down the rest of the way. All good.

[cs363]

So.. That would be under $100 landed??

Looks the ducks for those workshop jobs.... that you need to do in the back and beyond too (thinking like after a trip over Danseys Pass).

I'd say just over with postage costs, but bloody trick little device.

[varminter]

I have a mental image of someone laying the rear wheel on one, winding it up to 100 or so, then the sucker being spat out the back while the bike goes through the rear garage wall. Bound to happen.

[cs363]

I have a paddock stand, used it on the 250 no problems. Was cacking myself putting the V-Strom on it but no worries, when it's taken off the stand I just ease it down , let the side stand touch then gently down the rest of the way. All good.

A lot depends on the bike, the RF900 was easy as it had a solid rear grab rail and was easy as pie to put on and off the paddock stand by itself. The 748 for instance isn't quite so easy as there's nothing of substance to hold onto at the rear.
But as the OP wants something for his Aunt who has a duff wrist it probably doesn't matter how light or easy to manage the bike is for an able bodied person.

[cs363]

I have a mental image of someone laying the rear wheel on one, winding it up to 100 or so, then the sucker being spat out the back while the bike goes through the rear garage wall. Bound to happen.

:lol: Especially if alcohol is involved! It does have a non-slip surface on the bottom, so shouldn't be an issue in normal use. :)

[grusomhat]

Paddock stands can be used if you are alone, it's just a scary move. Prop the sidestand up with wood until the bike is almost level, nervously make your way to the back of the bike and deploy the paddock stand.

Not the best move but good if you are in a pinch.

[Quasi]

Paddock stands can be used if you are alone, it's just a scary move. Prop the sidestand up with wood until the bike is almost level, nervously make your way to the back of the bike and deploy the paddock stand.


Now thats a useful tip. Thanks.

[Madmax]

whats a centre stand

[cs363]

whats a centre stand

A stand.
Centred.


:done:

[quickbuck]

It does seem a bit silly to me that they operate by cradling the lugs rather than having an attachment which clips over the whole lug and holds itself there, that'd allow you to position the bike with both arms then just use your foot for the stand...

Time for me to get on the invention block methinks!

Give it a go.
The main reason for them being the way they are is so you can actually get the bike off without assistance.
It can flick up and tangle on the rear wheel, but not really for long.

They tend to be a little tricky to fit if you are in a rush, or on rough ground (Wanganui pits was really tricky!).

Else by all means, put your thinking cap on, there may well be something you can come up with.
Just because it doesn't exist now, doesn't mean it won't be better, or you can't improve things.

[quickbuck]

Paddock stands can be used if you are alone, it's just a scary move. Prop the sidestand up with wood until the bike is almost level, nervously make your way to the back of the bike and deploy the paddock stand.

Not the best move but good if you are in a pinch.
And most bikes that paddock stands are used on don't actually have a side stand.....

[Creeping Death]

I've always used a trolley jack or even one of them daft wind up car jacks, good to remove the rear wheel,sit it as far back as is possible,start jackin her up (sidestand down) and as she rises up place blocks of wood or whatever under the stand,or park it against your garage wall and do the same,just remember to loosen the axle nuts first.
Actually,best to do it against a wall,if it tips over it won't hit the deck.

[cs363]

And most bikes that paddock stands are used on don't actually have a side stand.....

I think you might be looking at that from a racing perspective. Most people I know with sports bikes have a paddock stand purely for ease of servicing, I think you'd be surprised at how many are tucked away in peoples sheds.

[magicmonkey]

I'd say just over with postage costs, but bloody trick little device.

Emailed them last night and got a price, 72 USD including delivery, current exchange rates put that at just under 98 NZD

[cs363]

Emailed them last night and got a price, 72 USD including delivery, current exchange rates put that at just under 98 NZD

That's good, mind you I just noticed how good the exchange rate is at the moment! :niceone:

[magicmonkey]

That's good, mind you I just noticed how good the exchange rate is at the moment! :niceone:

yeah, 74c on the dollar aint too shabby :)

[grusomhat]

I think you might be looking at that from a racing perspective. Most people I know with sports bikes have a paddock stand purely for ease of servicing, I think you'd be surprised at how many are tucked away in peoples sheds.

Very much my thoughts.

[FROSTY]

MM I used to sell paddock stands. A lot of em. I must ask the question though.If your relative is struggling to use the main stand then how will they cope with a paddock stand. a main stand used correctly is piss easy to use compared to even the easiest paddock stand.
I must say I've puut all sorts of bikes on paddock stands and have only once been worried --and that was one where I had to boogy things after a crash

[magicmonkey]

MM I used to sell paddock stands. A lot of em. I must ask the question though.If your relative is struggling to use the main stand then how will they cope with a paddock stand. a main stand used correctly is piss easy to use compared to even the easiest paddock stand.
I must say I've puut all sorts of bikes on paddock stands and have only once been worried --and that was one where I had to boogy things after a crash

ah ok, I always thought they were supposed to be easier to deal with than the centre stand, I'm afraid I suffer from beginners ingorance at the moment!
Looks like one of those roller things is definately the way to go :)

[Pixie]

A motorcycle jack may be easier to use.A cradle to clear the exhaust system may need to be constructed out of blocks of wood.

The Toolshed had them for $179

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[FROSTY]

A motorcycle jack may be easier to use.A cradle to clear the exhaust system may need to be constructed out of blocks of wood.

The Toolshed had them for $179

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Only trouble with those is useing them on a bike with afull fairing. They are bloody easy to use otherwise.
I do wonder though how removing the wheel wii affect the balance