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Ninja51
4th May 2005, 19:44
Oh my God! I have just watched TV3's Campbell Live feature on boy racers.
Was I imagining it or did I see these morons pouring neat diesel onto the road surface to facilitate burn outs!! Excuse my ignorance as a pom in my first year as an NZ resident, but I find this behaviour completely and utterly
unbelievable...the consequences for bikers doesnt bear thinking about... please tell me I was dreaming. Did anyone else see this?
This sort of irresponsible action makes me think all bikers are fully paid up members of the Institute of Advanced Motorists! On the other hand...is it me? Am I getting old? Should I accept it? Answers on a postcard please...
Waylander
4th May 2005, 19:46
Since when have any boiracer of that kind thought about anybody other than themselfs? Mate they don't care about bikers. Even most normal cage drivers don't care about bikers. That's a universal fact.
Oh they have being doing that for yonks - dont worry they dont do it on corners - as there 89' cut spring civics cant corner better than a brick on a iced lake.
...is it me? Am I getting old? Should I accept it? Answers on a postcard please...
I got old a long time ago....but I was young once laddie...why,I remember when.....
.....when I was a truck mechanic we used to put some diesel down in the yard and do burnouts in 10 ton trucks! - can you imagine a Leyland Hippo,tandem drive rear end,that's 8 tyres,winding up through the box smoking the tyres? You should see one of those axle tramp!.Then we used to get the electric forkhoist we used in the shop and spin it out too.Another game we played was to get an old ring gear and bowl it along the yard,someone would try and catch it on a fork.
I dunno about the young guys of today,they should lock them all up and take their toys away....back in my day we didn't do stupid dangerous things,oh no,we were good boys....
Yeah, saw that, bunch of barley-literate tossers.
Mr. Bowlcut Tourguide sounded like he took a Magnum round to the head.
In conclusion: they can plaes jumpp up my butt.
James Deuce
4th May 2005, 20:22
Yeah, saw that, bunch of barley-literate tossers.
Mr. Bowlcut Tourguide sounded like he took a Magnum round to the head.
In conclusion: they can plaes jumpp up my butt.
Is anyone else pissing themselves as hard as I am?
Sorry man, I couldn't help it.
James Deuce
4th May 2005, 20:24
Oh my God! I have just watched TV3's Campbell Live feature on boy racers.
Was I imagining it or did I see these morons pouring neat diesel onto the road surface to facilitate burn outs!! Excuse my ignorance as a pom in my first year as an NZ resident, but I find this behaviour completely and utterly
unbelievable...the consequences for bikers doesnt bear thinking about... please tell me I was dreaming. Did anyone else see this?
This sort of irresponsible action makes me think all bikers are fully paid up members of the Institute of Advanced Motorists! On the other hand...is it me? Am I getting old? Should I accept it? Answers on a postcard please...
I feel your pain. Remember this is a country that has no qualms sending 30% of it's populace overseas to fight in wars that could reasonably be argued to be someone else's problem.
Timber020
4th May 2005, 20:25
A guy I knew had washer bottles filled with diesel with the nozzles squirting onto the back tires of his RX7. Always wanted to push the button while he was pushing it at speed around a corner while NOT being in the car for the subsequent crash
pritch
4th May 2005, 20:28
I find this behaviour completely and utterly unbelievable....
Sadly it ain't.
There used to be a part of the main street in this town that they used but the pressure of recent years has moved them on. Well, several blocks on anyway.
On balance, I would probably vote for them going back down town. Late at night I can now hear them torturing their mother's car to death in a car park a kilometre or so to the east of here.
Ah well, we are all young once.
Unfortunately though, not all of them will get to be old.
Ramius
4th May 2005, 20:37
You know what I find horrible, is that I am not allowed to carry around a fully loaded gun with my firearms licence, and these dicks are allowed to drive around in a lowered down shit box that they will not be able to control in the critical moment, which will inevitably cause more damage than my gun! I highly doubt I will let of a clip just to show that I have it!
MOTOXXX
4th May 2005, 20:58
i fucken hate boy racers and there car hoes too. They should be shot for putting desil on the road. :mad:
but that was a huge car show though with a shitload of people from all over the country in one place. So i dont know if its that hard out every weekend. Maybe im wrong? add the cameras and you have little kids wanting to do burnouts to show off to their mates on tv.
what the hell were they thinking about doing that shit on dodgy roads with ice.
ricksta
4th May 2005, 21:13
that guy with the f*ckd up hair cut should seriously get a life... or start saving for his funeral.
chickenfunkstar
4th May 2005, 21:23
Used to be into that scene couple of years ago (before I got into bikes).
Its probably something you grow out of after a year or two.
It is pretty stupid when I think about it.
That guy did sound pretty dumb, Campbell live probably chose him because of it.
that guy with the f*ckd up hair cut should seriously get a life... or start saving for his funeral.
PENIS CUT! :lol:
(In more than to ways to :lol:)
LOL john :D!
Yeah i watched it. Amazing how the best burnout was done by a 'SACKKD AZZZ' phat 91' toyota camry :killingme
Pretty sad types of people on that program and I always have to laugh at the 4 wheeled honda variaties 'dragging' cars :laugh:
Ahh yeah its bash youth time... next one will be violent video games (for the 15th time) and mabey after that they might do party drugs again :whocares:
LOL john :D!
Yeah i watched it. Amazing how the best burnout was done by a 'SACKKD AZZZ' phat 91' toyota camry :killingme
Pretty sad types of people on that program and I always have to laugh at the 4 wheeled honda variaties 'dragging' cars :laugh:
Ahh yeah its bash youth time... next one will be violent video games (for the 15th time) and mabey after that they might do party drugs again :whocares:
Nah we had violent video games on 60minutes yesterday - the black guy acted out the GTA:VC scenaro and killed the cops (you know the one where you gotta sneak into the popo station and pimp dem fly bitches outa jail den yo pop a cap n der ass)
Waylander
4th May 2005, 23:22
Nah we had violent video games on 60minutes yesterday - the black guy acted out the GTA:VC scenaro and killed the cops (you know the one where you gotta sneak into the popo station and pimp dem fly bitches outa jail den yo pop a cap n der ass)
I think you're talking about San Andreas. They didn't have any of that fake wanna be gangster "homie" language crap in Vice city.
madboy
4th May 2005, 23:25
I was in the midst of that traffic, and that hailstorm. It was co-incidental that a family reunion fell on the same weekend as a boyracer carshow - so of course I had to venture out in the beige 2005 Diamante with leather rental car, traction control turned off :msn-wink:
The hail came down and everyone seemed to be having traction difficulties, usually the lesser value the car the more the traction difficulty... the really nice cars were parked on the footpath underneath the shop awnings!!
But on the whole I didn't see anything overly interesting in the couple of hours of laps I did - reckon the boys were probably just getting it on for the cameras. I remember a similar thing a few years ago at the Auckland one - the footage where you see a police car do a hasty retreat for some flying bottles on the waterfront... A reporter walked up to a group of guys I knew from Wgtn circles and practically begged them to pop a burnout, and of course they oblidged, and then appeared on 3 News.
I think you're talking about San Andreas. They didn't have any of that fake wanna be gangster "homie" language crap in Vice city.
Nah I said it like that because the guy who supossedly acted it out in real life (killed 3 cops) was a black dude, and thought it added abit of humor - to the slowly depletting sanity of the americans.
Definatly VC - because I remeber the level bastard was hard as shit on a hot day.
Oh jesus..... no way. LADIES AND GENTLEMUN, tis youth bashing time.
On the agenda we have:
'Parties'
'Dangerous boy racers using race tracks dangerously'
'Party pills'
'Disrespectful youth of today'
'Bullying is widespread'
'Satanic black metalers that hate adults and society' (all youth do this apparently)
'Bad influence of heavy metal'
'Rap teaches youth to have sex'
'Rap makes youth shoot each other to copy eminem etc'
'Rap makes youth violent and territorial'
'Parties and riot police: NORTH SHORE VERSION 2'
'Violent video games' < already done.. darn.
'All youth tag'
'Learner motorcyclists should be limited to 125cc'
and
'Boy racers speed dangerously and make 45% of all crashes occur'
Just wait and you shall see something like that on most current affairs programs.... I pick paul holmes first as he has not been in the limelight lately.
Waylander
4th May 2005, 23:29
Nah I said it like that because the guy who supossedly acted it out in real life (killed 3 cops) was a black dude, and thought it added abit of humor - to the slowly depletting sanity of the americans.
Definatly VC - because I remeber the level bastard was hard as shit on a hot day.
Glad I got out while still preserving my sanity. I did right?
I got old a long time ago....but I was young once laddie...why,I remember when.....
....back in my day we didn't do stupid dangerous things,oh no,we were good boys....
Certainly doesn't sound that way :nono: Methinks that when you were a youff you were as bad as the youff today .
Now when I was young we were ALL perfect angels, exemplary, the very incarnation of polite well behaved young men. We never engaged in any antisocial or improper activities, Travel agents in forn parts used to get up tour groups of choir boys just to come out to New Zealand to marvel at us.
Any rumours you hear to the contrary are quite wrong. Completely. And any that involve BSA Bantams and kerosene are total malicious fabrications. It never happened. And it wasn't us. We weren't there.And the Humber 10 wasn't us either. Not that I know anything about that.
'Satanic black metalers that hate adults and society' (all youth do this apparently).
Thats the funniest thing I've ever seen Mr Ioffervirginstosatan. :no:
A reporter walked up to a group of guys I knew from Wgtn circles and practically begged them to pop a burnout, and of course they oblidged, and then appeared on 3 News.
Didn't a reporter get into the shit a few years ago for doing that in Gore?
He bribed some Gorons with a meat pie or something to smoke their crappy old Valiant up and the cops got shitty at him and charged him....or something, or not. I dunno.
Madmax
4th May 2005, 23:37
they spend so much money on mods to get 300hp,
mates V8 puts out 700Hp for half the cost
(it lost about 100Hp cause the exhausts are to
small,when we ran it up on the dino it removed the gaskets at
6000Rpm,and was only running on 6Cyls) when it is running
on all 8Cyls it should put out 800 Plus easy :devil2:
Brian d marge
4th May 2005, 23:48
I got old a long time ago....but I was young once laddie...why,I remember when.....
.....when I was a truck mechanic we used to put some diesel down in the yard and do burnouts in 10 ton trucks! - can you imagine a Leyland Hippo,tandem drive rear end,that's 8 tyres,winding up through the box smoking the tyres? You should see one of those axle tramp!.Then we used to get the electric forkhoist we used in the shop and spin it out too.Another game we played was to get an old ring gear and bowl it along the yard,someone would try and catch it on a fork.
I dunno about the young guys of today,they should lock them all up and take their toys away....back in my day we didn't do stupid dangerous things,oh no,we were good boys....
Never saw the truck ..but used to get the fork lift hopping ..also had it on two wheels round corners..err most corners ...
aparantly people have been hurt doing that .....oh well i was 16 going on 100 ...more like 12....
happy days,,,,
Stephen
FROSTY
4th May 2005, 23:52
as a youngun id visit the neilson st drags. It was fun-two cars or bikes racing. --sometimes for money mostly just for fun.
Then they started with the diesel and it just started getting too bloody dangerous
Never saw the truck ..but used to get the fork lift hopping ..also had it on two wheels round corners..err most corners ...
aparantly people have been hurt doing that .....oh well i was 16 going on 100 ...more like 12....
happy days,,,,
Stephen
Two fork lift trucks is what you need for forklift jousting. Then each tries to get its forks under the other in such a way as to lift a drive wheel off the ground. There is of course much circling to position and revving of engines .
Or so someone told me. Don't know who.Never seen him before. I certainly never saw anything like that . It wasn't me . I wasn't there. And even if I was I wuld not have condoned such irresponsibility. Much less take part. No I know nothing at all about it. In my day youff was very well behaved. We never did anything bad. And certainly never anything that involved girls. Or cars. Or motorbikes.
NotaGoth
5th May 2005, 00:12
The game made me do it..
The music made me do it...
Well I heard Dover Samuels pissed on the floor in a hotel, so now I'm gonna go do the same thing.
"He influenced me"
:D
Well I heard Dover Samuels pissed on the floor in a hotel, so now I'm gonna go do the same thing.
"He influenced me"
:D
It's nice to see someone with so much respect for the country's leaders......
250learna
5th May 2005, 01:24
Oh my God! I have just watched TV3's Campbell Live feature on boy racers.
Was I imagining it or did I see these morons pouring neat diesel onto the road surface to facilitate burn outs!! Excuse my ignorance as a pom in my first year as an NZ resident, but I find this behaviour completely and utterly
unbelievable...the consequences for bikers doesnt bear thinking about... please tell me I was dreaming. Did anyone else see this?
This sort of irresponsible action makes me think all bikers are fully paid up members of the Institute of Advanced Motorists! On the other hand...is it me? Am I getting old? Should I accept it? Answers on a postcard please...
Isnt Campbell great? My favourite prime time show :niceone: ive never seen so much junk sloted together so nicely by such a talented jurnalist. :laugh:
crazylittleshit
5th May 2005, 02:35
.....when I was a truck mechanic we used to put some diesel down in the yard and do burnouts in 10 ton trucks! - can you imagine a Leyland Hippo,tandem drive rear end,that's 8 tyres,winding up through the box smoking the tyres? You should see one of those axle tramp!.Then we used to get the electric forkhoist we used in the shop and spin it out too.Another game we played was to get an old ring gear and bowl it along the yard,someone would try and catch it on a fork.
I dunno about the young guys of today,they should lock them all up and take their toys away....back in my day we didn't do stupid dangerous things,oh no,we were good boys....[/QUOTE]
you gota love this guy............ :D
A guy I knew had washer bottles filled with diesel with the nozzles squirting onto the back tires of his RX7. Always wanted to push the button while he was pushing it at speed around a corner while NOT being in the car for the subsequent crash
How the hell does this get past the WOF checks? Surely when a modded car gets checked the mechanics should know to look for illegal mods like cut springs, stuffed tires or diesel bottles that squirt onto the rears? Ingenious I dmit, but buggered if I'd use them.
Yeah, saw that, bunch of barley-literate tossers...
How do you know that they were all farmers?
That guy with the f*ckd up hair cut should seriously get a life... or start saving for his funeral.
Seeing as he had already been involved in a near fatal (he'd been dragging and the other car rammed him and he shot over a traffic islnad into another car and put the inncocent driver of that car in IC for 10 days), been jailed for 3 months, home det for a further 2 years and was due to get his license back in 3 months, his comments about "wanting to get back into it" when his license was restored makes me want to smack him in the chops. Or his parents. I mean FFS, if this guy almost killed someone and has done time, what makes the govt think a few talks at some schools and a million bucks poured into adverts is gonna make a lick of difference if he's a "typical example" of these idiots.
How the hell does this get past the WOF checks? ..
Seeing as he had already been involved in a near fatal (he'd been dragging and the other car rammed him and he shot over a traffic islnad into another car and put the inncocent driver of that car in IC for 10 days), been jailed for 3 months, home det for a further 2 years ...
In light of the second part of the quote - why would you assume that failure to display a WOF would figure largely in his scale of things ?
Sniper
5th May 2005, 15:04
Welcome to the world of smoke, drugs and fuckwits.
Boi Racers are the bain of most a bikers life. Thinking they are better and fucking up my roads
In light of the second part of the quote - why would you assume that failure to display a WOF would figure largely in his scale of things ?
Different bloke and car, but I take your point.
Lou Girardin
5th May 2005, 15:27
What a bunch of semi-literate slack-jawed hick retards. Crying because the nasty coppers are so hard on them, then doing on camera exactly what pisses off the public.
If that's the best they can do to get public sympathy they deserve all they get.
How the hell does this get past the WOF checks? Surely when a modded car gets checked the mechanics should know to look for illegal mods like cut springs, stuffed tires or diesel bottles that squirt onto the rears? Ingenious I dmit, but buggered if I'd use them.
.
Most WoF inspectors are elderly with poor eyesight,but won't wear glasses because it makes them look their age,also bribes are very common...just check out the flash cars they drive,can't get those on a mechanic's wage....look under the office desk....beer,wine,spirits,all backhanders from Boi Racers.WoF inspectors do very well out of modified cars.... :whistle: :killingme
Lou Girardin
5th May 2005, 16:48
Just as an aside, one of our guys is trying to get some testing in for the 3 hour on Sunday. Testing on Thursdays (open day) is out because all the immigrant boy wan..., sorry, racers are at Puke stuffing their cars into the guard rails trying to drift over the hill onto pit straight.
He couldn't get a single clear lap and had to flag it.
Waylander
5th May 2005, 17:03
Live at the bottom of a hill with a slight curve that begins right in front of my house. 'Bout 15 boi racers live in the neighborhood and constantly have thier mates come by. They seem to love peeling out at the top of the hill on the way down and then drift into the oncoming lane as the go round the curve. It's a blind curve and I have to be carefull just backing out of my driveway lest I get hit by some nut comming through. Anyway there are also lots of kids who ride thier bikes in the street aswell. Anyway my point is anybody feel like helping me dismantle some cares to teach these fuckwits a lesson?
How do you know that they were all farmers?
What've you got against farmers? Its not like they are austrailians or anything?
Waylander
5th May 2005, 17:30
By the way, seems they're gonna have a "bite back" at Campbell Live tonight for making them look bad.
The trashy hoe had me laughing my arse off!
Why don't you have a fight with them, jake? You are always telling us, that infact you 'are', The Man. Are you not?
Waylander
5th May 2005, 17:46
The trashy hoe had me laughing my arse off!
Why don't you have a fight with them, jake? You are always telling us, that infact you 'are', The Man. Are you not?
Oh could you do it for me? You're so much tougher than I am.:msn-wink:
Motoracer
5th May 2005, 17:47
Yea that's right, you bikers better watch out. I'm a proud boyracer myself. I've got a real flash as Ford Econovan thats done up to the max eh! Yea dats right, it's a ford (cause Holdens suck balls!!!!!!).
It's full kitted with a AM/FM radio and some boom booms at the bak. I've got neons, I've got LEDs, shit I've got everything bro! To finish it all off I've got heaps of performance stickers. I am thinking about upgrading the stickers to some Gready ones or maybe Trust ones and Oh yea, I'm saving up for some cool as NOS stickers too! OH, And the meanest part of my whole van is my very flashy lookin bling bling chromies!! YEYA!!! Check that shit out EH!! ha ha... What do you mean they'r not real? I bought them for 50 bucks from Repco!!!
Two Smoker
5th May 2005, 18:09
Yea that's right, you bikers better watch out. I'm a proud boyracer myself. I've got a real flash as Ford Econovan thats done up to the max eh! Yea dats right, it's a ford (cause Holdens suck balls!!!!!!).
It's full kitted with a AM/FM radio and some boom booms at the bak. I've got neons, I've got LEDs, shit I've got everything bro! To finish it all off I've got heaps of performance stickers. I am thinking about upgrading the stickers to some Gready ones or maybe Trust ones and Oh yea, I'm saving up for some cool as NOS stickers too! OH, And the meanest part of my whole van is my very flashy lookin bling bling chromies!! YEYA!!! Check that shit out EH!! ha ha... What do you mean they'r not real? I bought them for 50 bucks from Repco!!!
LMFAO!!! hehehehe
Oh could you do it for me? You're so much tougher than I am.:msn-wink:
But I insist, you are the one who brags about it:D
Waylander
5th May 2005, 18:15
But I insist, you are the one who brags about it:D
Yea whatever... Go back to seducing WINJA.
Yea whatever... Go back to seducing WINJA.
Nah, I hear that turns you on too much :bleh:
Mr Skid
5th May 2005, 20:38
I am thinking about upgrading the stickers:killingme
If you want bulk cred with the drifters/trainspotters you should get this painted on the door of the race van:
http://www.ringing-shallows.org/side-a/pic/ae86.jpg
It reads Fujiwara Tofu Shop (private vehicle).
If you want to know why it's soooo cool you could ask a dirty old drifter like FEINT..
:killingme
If you want bulk cred with the drifters/trainspotters you should get this painted on the door of the race van:
http://www.ringing-shallows.org/side-a/pic/ae86.jpg
It reads Fujiware Tofu Shop (private vehicle).
If you want to know why it's soooo cool you could ask a dirty old drifter like FEINT..
For some strange reason I think I know what you're on about...
It's some weird anime thing where there are these rival delivery things or something?
I've seen it somewhere...
We still got a way to go - my brother in Canada tells me some of the stuff that goes on over there.
One thing they do is a bunch of the dudes meet and all put some money into a hat (a cap maybe,but do they hold it backwards?) then one guys races off and hides the stash - then he rings them up and tells them where it is....the first one there claims the pot.They spice it by doing it in peak hour traffic.There's more,but I forget....
Timber020
5th May 2005, 23:02
At least the WOF tests are generally better than they used to be, my mates holden ute had all bald tires on brakes only on one side. Got warrents without problem.
The diesel squirt thing is pretty ingenious, you get all the smoke without having to give up as much tire or provide as much HP.
scumdog
6th May 2005, 09:05
At least the WOF tests are generally better than they used to be, my mates holden ute had all bald tires on brakes only on one side. Got warrents without problem.
The diesel squirt thing is pretty ingenious, you get all the smoke without having to give up as much tire or provide as much HP.
Using diesel and riding the brakes to get tyre-smoke is for limp-wristed soft-cocks with underpowered cars - kinda sums up a like a lot of B.R.s that do that shit.
Why not throw the tyres in a pile, throw the diesel on them and throw a match at the whole shebang? lots of smoke and you can still yak with your mates, drink, snog or whatever.
:killingme
If you want bulk cred with the drifters/trainspotters you should get this painted on the door of the race van:
http://www.ringing-shallows.org/side-a/pic/ae86.jpg
It reads Fujiwara Tofu Shop (private vehicle).
If you want to know why it's soooo cool you could ask a dirty old drifter like FEINT..
The car is a called "hachiroku" which means 86 in Japanese. This car was used in the video "Initial D". It was more of a anime cartoon. Kind of like a drifters bible. In the movie, this was the delivery car for the FUJIWARA TOFU SHOP and the star of the movie drove / raced it on the streets in Japan. This isn't the reason why we have boyracers...... please refer that to "Fast and the Furious" and "Too fast too furious".
Boyracers is one of the reasons I gave up drifting. The image that goes along with cars today sucks.
Alot of these so called boyracers are youngun's that have no driving experience / skill. They really want to prove something, come down to the track.
..
Boyracers is one of the reasons I gave up drifting. The image that goes along with cars today sucks.
..
Take pity on an ignorant old fart. What is "drifting" ?
Drunken Monkey
6th May 2005, 09:17
Take pity on an ignorant old fart. What is "drifting" ?
Remember those good 'ol fashioned american car 'flicks like Bullit, et al? Where the driver plants his foot and oversteers his way skillfully around a corner. That's drifting. Only these days you use a Japanese car, typically a Skyline, 200SX, Ae86 'rolla (RWDs) and sometimes even FWDs like Integras.
There's a whole culture to it now, ranging from the "original" underground drifting in Japan, through to organised events, especially here and the USA, i.e. places that have a Jap import culture of some degree.
Remember those good 'ol fashioned american car 'flicks like Bullit, et al? Where the driver plants his foot and oversteers his way skillfully around a corner. That's drifting. Only these days you use a Japanese car, typically a Skyline, 200SX, Ae86 'rolla (RWDs) and sometimes even FWDs like Integras.
There's a whole culture to it now, ranging from the "original" underground drifting in Japan, through to organised events, especially here and the USA, i.e. places that have a Jap import culture of some degree.
Thank you for the enlightenment. Though it sounds rather boring. They ar eodd folk in Japan
Thank you for the enlightenment. Though it sounds rather boring. They ar eodd folk in Japan
Well, in my personal opinion, it is more entertaining to watch than track racing. Reason being, there are alot more crashes and they don't keep going round and round the track. There is a set judged area in which two cars or more will battle. Points are awarded for angle, speed, technique, length of drift, stunts etc.
There is an event for this called "D1". It just started its own series in the USA. New Zealand has its own, called "D1NZ". Japan has "D1GP". Most large japanese manufacturers will have their own sponsored cars. This is pretty much on the places they test their latest gadgets (along with the JGTC).
http://www.d1jp.co.jp (japan D1)
http://www.d1gp.com (USA D1)
http://www.d1nz.co.nz (NZ D1 not as great).
Frequently Asked Questions : http://www.d1gp.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=6
What is drifting?
Drifting is a high-skill level motor-sport in which drivers control a car while it slides from side to side at high speed (approx. 80 to 100mph) through a fixed course. It is similar to Rally racing on ice barn, but is done on a tarmac (paved course) and judged on speed, angle of attack, execution and style rather than just who finishes the fastest. Drift cars are typically compact to midsized, rear-wheel-drive sport cars. The goal is to apply enough power to the rear wheels to break the tires' traction and initiate a slide while accelerating the vehicle forward, or "drift" Once a drift is initiated, it must be maintained through the turn using nearly a full power, a tap of braking and precise counter steering.
"This could be The Next Big Thing"
example of a japanese drift car that is raced in the D1 event.
http://www.jtuned.com/media/gallery%2Farticles%2FHKS%20RS2%2F002%2Ejpg
V10 Viper .. at D1 US
http://www.jtuned.com/media/gallery%2FMRT%2Fdrift%2FFormula%5FDrift%5FWall%5FN J05%2F118%2Ejpg
another reason why drift is so entertaining
battle!
http://www.jtuned.com/media/gallery%2FMRT%2Fdrift%2FFormula%5FDrift%5FWall%5FN J05%2F089%2Ejpg
http://www.jtuned.com/media/gallery%2FMRT%2Fdrift%2FFormula%5FDrift%5FWall%5FN J05%2F102%2Ejpg
Mr Skid
6th May 2005, 09:55
I've always found the 'newness' of drifting a strange concept - good keen kiwi blokes and lasses have been getting RX3's, Escorts and sundry other vehicles sideways on gravel roads in NZ for years.
Drifting uses the same tried and true techniques, but applies them to the road, i.e. the "Scandanavian flick" has been renamed the "feint drift" but it's still the same idea of weight transfer etc.
Nothing to see here, move along...
Lou Girardin
6th May 2005, 12:37
Drifting = big deal. Stiffen the rear susp till it barely moves, lock the diff and surprise, surprise, it oversteers.
When even a few of these guys can drift standard cars like Tiff Needel I'll be impressed.
PS It appears that I've become forum whore x 2. Yay for me!
ManDownUnder
6th May 2005, 12:43
I prefer Peter Perfect's approach (aka Brockie)...
keep working on your driving, get the things technically correct and you'll be fine...
He won races by driving the best he could under the conditions - not so much against others... more against himself.
I like that approach.
If you want to burn rubber by all means do it. Stay down wind and out of earshot from me... that's all I ask
If I want to burn rubber... I find the incinerator at my place does a damned good job.
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Kickaha
6th May 2005, 18:10
Drifting = big deal. Stiffen the rear susp till it barely moves, lock the diff and surprise, surprise, it oversteers.
When even a few of these guys can drift standard cars like Tiff Needel I'll be impressed.
The guy who came second in the Ruapuna round had pretty much a stock motor and there's a bit more to it than just stiffening the rear suspension to make it oversteer
This is a motorbiking forum and I am not going to rave on about drifting, but I will say one thing.
It isn't as easy as it looks. Think of it as, if you really wanted to be a fast grip driver, you would need to know the limit of traction. Drifting is just overstepping that limit. In the event that you were to lose control, it becomes a more natural reaction.
The fastest drivers out there are on a very fine line between drift and grip. They are on the edge of grip but not exactly in to drift.
This isn't the same as boyracers burning rubber in a straight line with their brakes on. There are competitive events held.
Dont judge a book by its cover. :)
If I want drifting I just play Underground: 2. The organic tracks rock my socks all the way to somewhere next door.
I've always found the 'newness' of drifting a strange concept - good keen kiwi blokes and lasses have been getting RX3's, Escorts and sundry other vehicles sideways on gravel roads in NZ for years.
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Yes indeed , and even earlier models. In my case, unintentional and unplanned. Good fun when it happens though. Unfortunately it invariably results in the road in question being added to Mrs Ixion's List of Roads I am Not Allowed to Drive On . She being of an unadventurous nature objects to sideways. The list is a long one. Fortunately she has no idea what I get up to on the bike (though I think she harbours dark suspicions)
Mr Skid
6th May 2005, 23:43
This is a motorbiking forum and I am not going to rave on about drifting, but I will say one thing.
It isn't as easy as it looks. Think of it as, if you really wanted to be a fast grip driver, you would need to know the limit of traction. Drifting is just overstepping that limit. In the event that you were to lose control, it becomes a more natural reaction.
The fastest drivers out there are on a very fine line between drift and grip. They are on the edge of grip but not exactly in to drift.
This isn't the same as boyracers burning rubber in a straight line with their brakes on. There are competitive events held.
Dont judge a book by its cover. :)
I :love: 'non-stop continuous drift', as you might guess from my new trainspotterish sig. (it might also explain my strange addiction to europop)
If anyone gets the chance to check out the drifters at Pukekohe, I'd recommend it. There are a few average drivers there, but there are also some highly talented individuals. Nothing like quite like seeing a rear wheel car come sideways out of the hairpin with smoke off all 4 tires. :yes:
pritch
6th May 2005, 23:53
He won races by driving the best he could under the conditions - not so much against others... more against himself.
I like that approach.
Me too.
Sean Harris on the 2003 Duke DVD talks about competing with himself and treating the actual IoM races as if they were practice. As he rides around he is repeating to himself the words "safe, points" . "Ride safe, hit your points".
I don't know how much psychology training Sean has done but that is all straight out of the sports psych text book. It works too.
chickenfunkstar
7th May 2005, 14:19
There's usually highlights of some of the D1NZ rounds on XSTV at 11pm on tuesday nights if anyones interested.
Yea whatever... Go back to seducing WINJA.
Don't chuck your toys out of your sandpit.
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Blakamin
8th May 2005, 10:12
I'm wif Scumdog, real cars just need right boot to make 'em do a burnout (and strangely, all real cars are rear-wheel-drive).... you only need the brake for the occasional donut-control and diesel is sumfin you put in tractors....
Lou Girardin
9th May 2005, 13:24
Garry McCoy = World's greatest drifter.
Kickaha
9th May 2005, 18:51
Garry McCoy = World's greatest drifter.
I dunno about that, anyone remember Anthony Gobert in WSBK :niceone:
hondacmx450
9th May 2005, 19:14
mmm bikes dont need disel to do burnouts and motard for bikes = drifting mmm bikes take the cake CARS SUX if you dont want to get wet bye a rain coat
SPORK
10th May 2005, 18:58
mmm bikes dont need disel to do burnouts and motard for bikes = drifting mmm bikes take the cake CARS SUX if you dont want to get wet bye a rain coat
But if we said "bye" to our rain coats, wouldn't that mean that we would get wet?
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