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popa griffin

15th January 2010, 22:57

Looking at a Norinco HP9.

All the reviews I can find and read say its better then the Remington 870 in which it was cloned from.

Anyone here have any personal experience with it and can tell me otherwise?

Any other gun nuts feel free to add your 2 cents worth aswell.

wbks

15th January 2010, 23:02

Ask in the firearms thread, the guys seem to know their stuff

peasea

16th January 2010, 08:52

CookMySock

16th January 2010, 09:11

Get a BIG one!

Steve

Swoop

16th January 2010, 13:43

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norinco_HP9-1

Elysium

16th January 2010, 14:14

Are the cagers starting to annoy you?

Flip

16th January 2010, 16:47

Got myself one of these. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiga-12

Shadows

16th January 2010, 19:18

Got myself one of these.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiga-12 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiga-12)

Yep, that's about the pinnacle of cool in shotguns. Need E Cat endorsement for those now though.

Stupid lawmakers.

Shadows

16th January 2010, 19:19

You should check out the Maverick 500 range of shotties if you're after a pump action.

Mossberg in everything but price. I think they're about $500 new and come in a field version (long barrel) and the shorter barrelled "home defence" configuration.

They also are compatable with 3 inch magnum cartridges and steel shot, and can have different chokes inserted, where the Norinco might not.

Man this new forum format is shite. I can't even see what I'm typing.

240

17th January 2010, 17:02

Agreed about the Maverick same Mossberg reliability as its more expensive brothers.You can get a 20'' pump new for about $500 all good!!

awayatc

17th January 2010, 17:16

wbks

17th January 2010, 17:22

If you buy a wok or a Panda... buy a chinese made one....
But a Gun?

Norinco is A Chinese Copy of a Remington....
I personaly would never buy a copy....
but rather the original....

Chinese Copycats could happily be shot for all I care, even with a Norinco.........
Most rifles imported into NZ are as much copy's of their respective pattern as this norinco is of a remington, so you won't buy anything but Remington, Steyr, Izhmash etc?

SMOKEU

17th January 2010, 18:13

Norinco makes some really good guns for the price. They seem poorly finished but they shoot very well.

Usarka

17th January 2010, 18:15

http://aproposofnothing.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/boomstick1.jpg
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sAsLEX

17th January 2010, 20:43

Usarka

17th January 2010, 20:47

Shadows

17th January 2010, 23:14

Norinco makes some really good guns for the price. They seem poorly finished but they shoot very well.

I used to have a JW15 peashooter. It would only group within a couple of MOA's and the bore wasn't even centrally located in the barrel. I tried to use one of those slip on moderators and blew the front off it with the first shot.

You get what you pay for - Asian shite which is substandard and unnecessarily cruel.

I gave it away to a mate (poor bastard) and replaced it with a Marlin 925. Using a rest I can put consecutive bullets through the same hole at 50 yards - more than two and a half times the rifle for two and a half times the price made it a good deal as far as I'm concerned.

Oldman Prof

17th January 2010, 23:22

start with:what are you planning to use it for,how often are you going to shoot it.I bought a Norico copy of a CZ75 in 2001 planning to shoot maybe once or twice a year and ended up shooting at least 200 rounds a month for the first 2yrs I had a private farmland to shoot in,after that aprox.every 3+_ months at different ranges and now I shoot once a month again nothing less that 200rnds a session,broke a firing pin 2yrs ago,turned one myself from EN9 and had it hardened,not bad for a "cheap copy",nothing wrong with a copy if you look after it.I also reload,shoot a few hot/carry loads to keep the feel otherwise lead cast medium loads.

awayatc

18th January 2010, 08:13

not only the quality of copy that matters.....
the whole chinese copying concept goes against my grain..
but then again maybe not everybody has principles

SMOKEU

18th January 2010, 09:37

I used to have a JW15 peashooter. It would only group within a couple of MOA's and the bore wasn't even centrally located in the barrel. I tried to use one of those slip on moderators and blew the front off it with the first shot.

You get what you pay for - Asian shite which is substandard and unnecessarily cruel.

I gave it away to a mate (poor bastard) and replaced it with a Marlin 925. Using a rest I can put consecutive bullets through the same hole at 50 yards - more than two and a half times the rifle for two and a half times the price made it a good deal as far as I'm concerned.

I've got a JW15A and it's great. I'm using a cheap $50 NCSTAR scope on it and it's no less accurate than any other .22LR I've seen for less than $1000. I've got a supressor on it as well and that's never blown off.

Shadows

18th January 2010, 11:21

I've got a JW15A and it's great. I'm using a cheap $50 NCSTAR scope on it and it's no less accurate than any other .22LR I've seen for less than $1000. I've got a supressor on it as well and that's never blown off.

Dude we should make a date at the rifle range.

Mind you - even if it can't be proven that the Marlin is a far better rifle than the Norinco you've got (which I doubt), it certainly is better then the one I had - that variability in itself would be testiment to extremely poor quality control.

SMOKEU

18th January 2010, 17:38

Dude we should make a date at the rifle range.

Mind you - even if it can't be proven that the Marlin is a far better rifle than the Norinco you've got (which I doubt), it certainly is better then the one I had - that variability in itself would be testiment to extremely poor quality control.

I will admit that my Norinco looks and feels cheap; the stock is rough and some on the metal on it looks like it was made by a drunken monkey. It looks shit. BUT, it shoots very well. It loves Winchester Super X Power Point ammo. It shoots consistently and extremely well for the price. It puts my mates Ruger 10/22 to shame- and that gun owes him over $700 (including scope). PM me if you would like to meet at the Handloaders club in Mcleans Island on a Tuesday night.

Shadows

19th January 2010, 00:04

I will admit that my Norinco looks and feels cheap; the stock is rough and some on the metal on it looks like it was made by a drunken monkey. It looks shit. BUT, it shoots very well. It loves Winchester Super X Power Point ammo. It shoots consistently and extremely well for the price. It puts my mates Ruger 10/22 to shame- and that gun owes him over $700 (including scope). PM me if you would like to meet at the Handloaders club in Mcleans Island on a Tuesday night.

Hehe - you're on.

You can't compare a bolt action with a semi auto when it comes to accuracy, any 10/22 is quite likely to be at a disadvantage to any bolt action .22 - same goes for any calibre - right up until one needs to quickly unload a magazine at a rapidly disappearing (or approaching :eek5:) target which otherwise might not have even been missed in the first place.

This will be the real test - check your PMs.

fatzx10r

19th January 2010, 03:32

You should check out the Maverick 500 range of shotties if you're after a pump action.

+1

i have a maverik 88 field and for the price ($450 new) i think it would be hard to bet. most parts ( barrel, chokes etc) are compatible with the mossberg 500's