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EJK

23rd January 2010, 14:47

The Italian police has got two Gallardo cop cars (one is off the road now). They are very fast but there's a little problem... No back seat when they capture the bad boys. So the British went ahead and got themselves the latest, fastest (almost), sports car (almost) they can buy...... with two bad boys' seats.

The Porsche Panamera Turbo.

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On a freezing December day, a camera team from Performance Direct went to experience what could be the British Polices latest, and most potent, weapon in the fight against speeding: an Oakley designed Porsche Panamera.

Lowered, lightened and modified with carbon fibre, the Porsche Panamera is capable of over 200mph and is rumoured to move from 0-60 in less than 4 seconds!

The super fast Porsche Police Car is the subject of the first Performance Direct Motoring News report, our regular video blog which takes a sidelong look at all thats interesting in motoring. As a modified car insurance specialist, Performance Direct often hears of interesting super cars, high performance bikes and other amazing vehicles. So check back for more amazing motoring news. Or, if you have any motoring news stories you'd like covered, please get in touch.

In the meantime, enjoy the shape of the future: Watch our exclusive video report on the Oakley designed Porsche Panamera Police Super Car!

Exquisite!

SMOKEU

23rd January 2010, 15:07

I'd like to see one of those try and keep up with a Hayabusa.

nodrog

23rd January 2010, 15:17

I'd like to see one of those try and keep up with a Hayabusa.

it would smoke a hayabusa

Mikkel

23rd January 2010, 15:41

it would smoke a hayabusa

Depending upon the relative skills of the operators and the traffic density... yes.

The Everlasting

23rd January 2010, 15:41

it would smoke a hayabusa

Haha that's the funniest thing I've heard all day.

nodrog

23rd January 2010, 15:46

Haha that's the funniest thing I've heard all day.

you're truely deluded if you think thats a joke.

SMOKEU

23rd January 2010, 18:42

it would smoke a hayabusa

That's wishful thinking in a pursuit situation.

nodrog

23rd January 2010, 18:52

That's wishful thinking in a pursuit situation.

yeah, on the hayabusa's part

wbks

23rd January 2010, 18:57

yeah, on the hayabusa's part

Turbed hyabusa at 400kph?... Porchah at 300 maybe?

Ooky

23rd January 2010, 19:00

the carrera GT is the only cool porsche with coolant they ruined them when they put water in em

Kickaha

23rd January 2010, 19:00

That's wishful thinking in a pursuit situation.

You obviously don't have to much of a clue about fast cars

nodrog

23rd January 2010, 19:03

Turbed hyabusa at 400kph?... Porchah at 300 maybe?

so now the bus has a turbo? get your hand off it mate.

wbks

23rd January 2010, 19:05

so now the bus has a turbo? get your hand off it mate.
Lol, well as it stands stock, depending on traffic, woudln't they both max out about the same, anyway?

nodrog

23rd January 2010, 19:14

the fastest i have seen a bus go was 317kph, but that was on nitrous, and 200mph (which it states that car can go over) = 321kph, but those euro cars go around corners.

onearmedbandit

23rd January 2010, 21:08

Turbed hyabusa at 400kph?... Porchah at 300 maybe?

Where would you take a bike to 400km/h, even if it could. And who would have the ability to do so? The car would be beaten to say 150mp/h (maye a pinch more) then the superior aerodynamics and higher power output would push the car past the bike. And then when it comes to braking and cornering, I'm sorry but you can't beat 4 large contact patches and a highly engineered chassis and suspension/tyres/brakes to match.

Thaeos

23rd January 2010, 21:12

Yup the car would win. Anyway it looks nice, I'd use it to go get my fish n chips.

davebullet

23rd January 2010, 21:22

The bike would win, because a bike can wheelie

SMOKEU

24th January 2010, 10:49

You obviously don't have to much of a clue about fast cars

A modern 1000cc sports bike can easily do the 1/4 mile in under 10 seconds. A Porsche Panamera can do it in about 12.5 seconds. A bike can ride over a narrow foot bridge, a park and other places inaccessible to 4 wheeled vehicles. A bike can also fit between traffic in ways that a car can't.

Kickaha

24th January 2010, 10:55

A modern 1000cc sports bike can easily do the 1/4 mile in under 10 seconds. A Porsche Panamera can do it in about 12.5 seconds. A bike can ride over a narrow foot bridge, a park and other places inaccessible to 4 wheeled vehicles. A bike can also fit between traffic in ways that a car can't.

You seem to be asumming any chase will be in an urban area

george formby

24th January 2010, 11:21

Moot point really, if a chase crept up to the speeds your talking about the car would abort & take it's directions from a helicopter. I think it may have been on 5th gear were they put a ducati on track with a ferrari, Leon Haslam riding. The car just about went over the bike on the brakes, acceleration was the only + for the bike.

wbks

24th January 2010, 11:40

The bike would win, because a bike can wheelie /argument

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SMOKEU

24th January 2010, 12:07

You seem to be asumming any chase will be in an urban area

It doesn't matter where it happens, it's just that the power to weight ratio of many modern sports bike is something that a large 4 door car simply can't match.

Kickaha

24th January 2010, 12:20

It doesn't matter where it happens, it's just that the power to weight ratio of many modern sports bike is something that a large 4 door car simply can't match.

A large 4 door car maybe, but you wait until you meet a quick car on the open road with a driver who knows his stuff, and he'll hand you your arse on a plate, cars brake later and corner faster

sil3nt

24th January 2010, 13:14

The car has better mileage, better cornering and thats about it? If it was a chase through some twisties then the Porsche would just have to crawl through at the speed limit and look for the crashed bike in the ditch on the side of the road.

The Stranger

24th January 2010, 13:29

A large 4 door car maybe, but you wait until you meet a quick car on the open road with a driver who knows his stuff, and he'll hand you your arse on a plate, cars brake later and corner faster

What the hell would you know? Knowledge and experience are no match for noobs with big imaginations.

R6_kid

24th January 2010, 17:28

I'd like to see one of those try and keep up with a Hayabusa.

I'd like to see a Hayabusa keep up while carrying three passengers and their shopping.

bogan

24th January 2010, 17:57

how many chases fail because the runner is in a faster vehicle than the cop car anyway? and multiply that by the probability that the Porsche would actually be in the area and able to pursue and you have got a very expensive car thats of very little benefit. However the psychological benefits are probably where its at, knowing theres a cop car that will piss all over whatever you are riding/driving is quite a good deterrent from running in the first place i would imagine. Fleet of Evos and WRXs like on that tv series is a better choice imo.

Headbanger

24th January 2010, 18:30

I challenge any road legal car in NZ to a timed race through the Parapara.

In the event that no one accepts this challenge then it is accepted as a law of nature that Bike pwns car.

rebel

24th January 2010, 18:37

I'd like to see a Hayabusa keep up while carrying three passengers and their shopping.

Or hows about the car trying to keep up running on 1300cc?

Generally speaking, bugger all of these high powered/sporty car owners can drive them to their potential. I've smoked plenty of flash Hondas, Altezza, BMW 540, Legacy GTB and a VR4 thru the twistly bits of Desert Rd with my ex taxi Falcon on steel 15" rims.

Bikes>cars

Virago

24th January 2010, 18:59

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Headbanger

24th January 2010, 21:27

I challenge any road legal car in NZ to a timed race through the Parapara.

In the event that no one accepts this challenge then it is accepted as a law of nature that Bike pwns car.

Just as I thought, No takers.

I think this is pretty damn conclusive, Myth Busted.

For my next stunt I would like to challenge a falcon ex-taxi through the Desert Rd, I'll be on a full dresser HD, running on one cylinder, I'll be facing backwards and chugging beers.

Piss easy.

Though someone will have to lend me their HD.

Cr1MiNaL

24th January 2010, 22:03

Another big wank wank waste of tax payers money for the poo poo. Good thing I'm not paying for it.

avgas

24th January 2010, 22:08

Pascal

25th January 2010, 05:52

Errrrr hate to say it.....but RUF (Tuned porsche) had 400kph way back when the Hyabusa was a twinkle in suzuki's eye.
I am still yet to see someone balsy enough to ride a busa to 400kph............I certainly are not.
I start getting scared around 280.....cos I am a pussy

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Always wonder if this is real or if it's bullshit with a faked out speedo.

sil3nt

25th January 2010, 06:49

EJK

25th January 2010, 08:55

300kph didn't help him get away.

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R6_kid

25th January 2010, 09:21

Or hows about the car trying to keep up running on 1300cc?

Generally speaking, bugger all of these high powered/sporty car owners can drive them to their potential. I've smoked plenty of flash Hondas, Altezza, BMW 540, Legacy GTB and a VR4 thru the twistly bits of Desert Rd with my ex taxi Falcon on steel 15" rims.

Why should the car run on 1300cc? The argument is about power to weight, not capacity rating vs top speed.

It's never conclusive to say you smoked some random person in a 'flash' car... there is a good chance they couldn't be bothered/wanted to survive the journey/thought you were a tosser/had better things to do. Unless you arrange it before hand there's no way to prove they were really trying.

The funny thing is that people on here are quick to say that a Busa will beat any car, a modern 1000cc can do under 10sec 1/4 mile - it all comes down to the person riding the bike. Also, it takes a lot of extra investment to make a Busa do 400kmh.

bogan

25th January 2010, 09:33

why is everyone still talking bout the busa? isnt the S1000RR faster? looks way cooler anyway

avgas

25th January 2010, 11:09

R6_kid

25th January 2010, 11:35

why is everyone still talking bout the busa? isnt the S1000RR faster? looks way cooler anyway

Because it's a 'famous' bike that retarded bikers and even more retarded 'car enthusiasts' always refer to as being the fastest factory production bike.

bogan

25th January 2010, 11:37

Because it's a 'famous' bike that retarded bikers and even more retarded 'car enthusiasts' always refer to as being the fastest factory production bike.

has a cool name too ;)

gatch

25th January 2010, 12:50

That list of 50 cars are as expensive and is some cases rare, as they are fast..

I reckon, on an open road, there would be very few rider/bike combinations that could out do a well trained police driver in a fast porsche. Common sense tells me so. In urbanville with traffic/obstacles etc, there is a slightly better chance of the bike getting away. But only slightly.

Pascal

25th January 2010, 14:06

Yep not bad for 350kph..........alas not 400.

Problem is his speedo is stuck on, what is it, 220mph? You can hear the revs increasing, but can't see it happen. I'm still not 100% sure if it is real though. And if it is - would any of those cars hit it in the same time-frame? But, I'm not making an argument for a bike outperforming a performance car. It's relatively clear that the grip and dynamics of 4 wheels should trump two wheels. It would be interesting to see the breakdown in terms of cost versus performance though and accessibility of that performance.

In urbanville with traffic/obstacles etc, there is a slightly better chance of the bike getting away. But only slightly.

Not a theory I'd like to test though :)

quickbuck

25th January 2010, 14:57

A bike does 19.1 KM of the Nurburgring in around 7:30. 20.8 KM in over 8 minutes.

All car times are for the 20 KM circuit and there are a lot of cars that do that in less than 8 minutes! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring_lap_times#Production_vehicles)
But the RC30 was on MEZ1's... Hell, better tyres out there now... (P/T).

Fact remains though, for those that a fast bike will piss all over a fast car are truly mistaken.

The only place a bike really has it, is the performance for the price.
Trouble is there is no way you can stop or corner as fast...

For those that think they can, will either find out the hard way, or sadly will never find out at all.

specter

25th January 2010, 22:44

just curious does Britain have a max speed that coppers can go?
sure you could get away on a bike if you have skill and knowledge of the road + luck..... but cops also have radios to set up road blocks, the porche would be used more to keep eyes on the vehicle

MaxB

25th January 2010, 23:24

My take on this, if the car club websites are to be believed, is that these flash cop cars are mainly for promotional purposes. They help with recruitment drives, charity work, publicity etc.

Very rarely are they used for traffic work. The operating and liability costs are too high. I remember reading that a Gallardo costs more to own and run than a Robinson chopper.

In Europe BMW seems to have cornered the market in pursuit vehicles 540s M5s M3s and the like and the cops seem to do just fine with those.

davebullet

29th January 2010, 21:12

A faster police car = faster chase = more deaths and crashes.

EJK

29th January 2010, 21:16

A faster police car = faster chase = more deaths and crashes.

Cops don't have the choice to make the chase you know. It's the runner's decision and police are the outcome (by-product) to follow.

Toaster

26th February 2010, 16:32

Cops don't have the choice to make the chase you know. It's the runner's decision and police are the outcome (by-product) to follow.

Given the comments in the thread about cop cars and hayabusas..... enter the Police Hayabusa!

Link:
UK Police HAYABUSA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRW-0W3PpSE&feature=related)

Hopeful Bastard

26th February 2010, 18:22

Given the comments in the thread about cop cars and hayabusas..... enter the Police Hayabusa!

Link:
UK Police HAYABUSA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRW-0W3PpSE&feature=related)

Found the actual tv show of that on youtube..

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part 1 ^

Part 2 v

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Toaster

26th February 2010, 18:43

Found the actual tv show of that on youtube..

How do you embed youtube videos like that? I tried but it didn't work.

Hopeful Bastard

26th February 2010, 18:45

Uhm.. under the little box on the right hand side on youtube.. there is a share and embed.. Its like directly under the persons id thingy..

http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/powerful_impressions/Quickie-1.jpg

Toaster

26th February 2010, 19:11