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Sutage
6th May 2005, 22:15
ha, so riding around with Tristank looking for a good hill for me to do some hill starts on, nice and dark riding down a road and at the end was a nice gravel driveway, blam off i come within 5 seconds :P
luckily didnt get hurt, and bike is amazingly in the same condition, go the SR250! buggered the brake lever a bit but fixable !
so ya, gravel sucks
ha, so riding around with Tristank looking for a good hill for me to do some hill starts on, nice and dark riding down a road and at the end was a nice gravel driveway, blam off i come within 5 seconds :P
luckily didnt get hurt, and bike is amazingly in the same condition, go the SR250! buggered the brake lever a bit but fixable !
so ya, gravel sucks
Man I know how you feel :puke:
Glad it wasnt to major, trust tristan I should have shut my mouth :lol:
Madguitarist!
6th May 2005, 22:25
WOW! Sorry to hear that bro..... practice can sometimes be pretty rough!
Were you on yer front brakes at the time???
Hope damage isn't too bad...
ha, so riding around with Tristank looking for a good hill for me to do some hill starts on, nice and dark riding down a road and at the end was a nice gravel driveway, blam off i come within 5 seconds :P
luckily didnt get hurt, and bike is amazingly in the same condition, go the SR250! buggered the brake lever a bit but fixable !
so ya, gravel sucksGravel and the dark don't mix! Remarkable that your bike wasn't even scratched? I'm happy it wasn't serious. :whistle:
justsomeguy
6th May 2005, 22:29
hehehehehehehehe now you know huh??
By the way oil, blind corners, sand, wet roads, wet road markings are also pretty evil as are blind car/cage drivers......
Sutage
6th May 2005, 22:30
hah apart from the gravel incident we were fine, tristan tought me clutch stuff and hill starts so wicked as!
i dunno if i even hit the brakes, just remember saying oh fuck gravel then went down:P
yeh the SR hold up pretty good, no fairings thank god :D
meh all experince, ill be on the newbie ride tomorrow so :niceone:
:D
yeah im fine, just a little cut hand (no gloves due to red baron only sending one :P ) but the one they sent me goes on the hand i cut so its my fault really, just dont wanna ride around looking like michael jackson
lol, glad you got helped out then yea gravels a bitch - If its one thing I've learned in all of my bins always wear gloves, once you get them sew them to your hands, they will save you!
Glad to see it hasnt detered you at all - have a good ride tommorrow!
justsomeguy
6th May 2005, 22:47
yeah im fine, just a little cut hand (no gloves due to red baron only sending one :P ) but the one they sent me goes on the hand i cut so its my fault really, just dont wanna ride around looking like michael jackson
HTF did you end up with one glove???
Sutage
6th May 2005, 22:53
well when my bike got delivered, my jacket pants helmet and gloves were in this box so he talks over the bike with me gives me the box etc
so when hes gone and i was done with pressing all the buttons on the dash i had a look in the box, only one glove was in there so mi like wtf, looked over my garden and shit still no glove, so i ring red baron and im like dude i have one glove, and hes like k ill go check with the workshop guys, and ya they had a left glove sitting there :laugh:
so prob wont be here tomorrow, will have to borrow a pair :D
HTF did you end up with one glove???
Red Baron are good as doing the most random shit possible :mobile:
hehehehehehehehe now you know huh??
By the way oil, blind corners, sand, wet roads, wet road markings are also pretty evil as are blind car/cage drivers.........and all it takes is for us to take our focus & concentration off these "evils" for a split-second and we're on the tarmac - eh JSG! :msn-wink:
...If its one thing I've learned in all of my bins always wear gloves, once you get them sew them to your hands, they will save you!So tell me John, how many years did you not wear gloves? How many bins without them?? Personally I've 'always' worn gloves, one of those common sensical things! :ride: <--see his gloves?
Sutage
6th May 2005, 23:03
I wore them on my scooter too, and was planning on wearing them. I blame red baron !
So tell me John, how many years did you not wear gloves? How many bins without them?? Personally I've 'always' worn gloves, one of those common sensical things! :ride: <--see his gloves?
Well I wore them most of the time esp in MX days, just when my gloves were to big for me I had about 4 bins(? or 3) and it sucks, its a good way to maul and rip apart your hands, I only didnt wear them for about 3 months because I couldnt afford to get a new small pair, so my rule is no gloves no ride.
Just dont do it gloves are up there with helmets in safety
I crashed in gravel on my first day on a bike,I crashed in the same place on the second day - I have well and truly conquered my enemy and gravel is now my best friend.
I wonder if this first experiance set me on a course to master gravel? I used to always look at my riding and say...what am I having problems with,what scares me? Then I would concentrate on that area.
Anyway....you got past that one ok....have fun tomorrow,and go at your own pace.
justsomeguy
6th May 2005, 23:16
...and all it takes is for us to take our focus & concentration off these "evils" for a split-second and we're on the tarmac - eh JSG! :msn-wink:
wot the wise man says :yes:
Sutage
6th May 2005, 23:19
ha never seen a topic get so many posts quickly, u guys cant sleep too huh? :P
yeh i need to do what motu did, find smoe gravel and ride over it when expecting it, otherwise ill always be scared :( :D
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so ya, gravel sucks
No no gravel fun :niceone: seriously, the SR250 should handle gravel fine (for a road bike). Go find some gravel roads and practice. I can never understand the sports bike riders that freak out at a gravel road.
Sorry you dropped it (it does happen sometimes on gravel/mud/clay). Glad you're not hurt.
Remember, crashing is the ultimate uncool. Black squishy bits down; pink squishy bits up. Always.
Yeah was a bummer.. bit of a shoulder plant... I was like 'oh fuck' but the bike was just as it was before the bin... indestructable :niceone:
Jeez I have done it again as with john.. talk about the bike before the rider :laugh:
Sutage became a brand new rider in one night of training :D and i was pleased to see the quick progress from being a shaky round the corners type to being a nice smooth cornering and hillstarting demon :devil2: well done man and tomorrows ride will give you twice as much confidence as compared to tonight!
250learna
6th May 2005, 23:31
bummer dude, but its good that you and your bike are ok. Im personaly shit scared of gravel as i havent been riding for all that long and i realy dont know what i can do on the gravel before it bites me in the arse.
As for the gloves, my m8s dad use to ride when he lived in croatia (which i mite say is in medateranium with much warmer climate) and he tells me that he didnt wear gloves that much but now his fingers tend to hurt quiet bad at times. He recons its because of the wind when on the bike with no hand protection, and i herd that wind can be a factor in developing Osteoarthritis Arthritis. But as far as im aware there is not much scientific evidence of this. But Im not a doctor so what do i know :whistle:
justsomeguy
7th May 2005, 00:13
bummer dude, but its good that you and your bike are ok. Im personaly shit scared of gravel as i havent been riding for all that long and i realy dont know what i can do on the gravel before it bites me in the arse.
As for the gloves, my m8s dad use to ride when he lived in croatia (which i mite say is in medateranium with much warmer climate) and he tells me that he didnt wear gloves that much but now his fingers tend to hurt quiet bad at times. He recons its because of the wind when on the bike with no hand protection, and i herd that wind can be a factor in developing Osteoarthritis Arthritis. But as far as im aware there is not much scientific evidence of this. But Im not a doctor so what do i know :whistle:
The reason you need gloves are that people instinctively put their hands out in front of them to prevent them falling. So without gloves you'll be in big trouble.:yes:
.. Im personaly shit scared of gravel as i havent been riding for all that long and i realy dont know what i can do on the gravel before it bites me in the arse.
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So, go practise. 250's are (usually) excellent for gravel , especially the singles. And if you think riding on seal is fun, then riding on gravel is more fun than a cartload of drunken monkeys with their tails burned off singing dirty limericks whilst wearing jodhpurs. And I can't think of anything funnier than that.
Mr Skid
7th May 2005, 02:48
i realy dont know what i can do on the gravel before it bites me in the arse.
Don't lean the bike to the extent you would on the road.
Favor the back brake over the front.
Keep your speed up.
If you think your going to crash, open the throttle. The worst thing that will happen is you'll still crash.
Gremlin
7th May 2005, 16:14
One glove! Boy I laughed. Then I remembered when I got my gloves from motomail...
Go in, looking for the HJC on special. Get it, cool. Ooh, cheap winter gloves, well, I'll need a pair. Get some dririder ones.
On the way home I'm having fun trying the right one on in the car, wow I say to everyone, why do they have so many labels on both gloves??
Get home, and try both on. First right, then lefffff huh????? wtf is this...
SHIT! they had given me two right gloves (all pre-packaged and everything).....
Funny thing is, is that this keeps happening to me, I even checked the helmet to make sure it was the right one :no:
justsomeguy
7th May 2005, 16:19
One glove! Boy I laughed. Then I remembered when I got my gloves from motomail...
Go in, looking for the HJC on special. Get it, cool. Ooh, cheap winter gloves, well, I'll need a pair. Get some dririder ones.
On the way home I'm having fun trying the right one on in the car, wow I say to everyone, why do they have so many labels on both gloves??
Get home, and try both on. First right, then lefffff huh????? wtf is this...
SHIT! they had given me two right gloves (all pre-packaged and everything).....
Funny thing is, is that this keeps happening to me, I even checked the helmet to make sure it was the right one :no:
So you busy driving around in full biker gear or have you got a bike yet???
Don't lean the bike to the extent you would on the road.
Favor the back brake over the front.
Keep your speed up.
If you think your going to crash, open the throttle. The worst thing that will happen is you'll still crash.Do you think you're a gravel specialist or summut Mr Skid? A few of us had a chat on the KB ride 2day about you changing your site name from Papparazi (sp?) :whistle:
Gremlin
7th May 2005, 17:42
So you busy driving around in full biker gear or have you got a bike yet???
:killingme :killingme :killingme
I was thinking of posting a pic of me in full gear standing on the driveway. I have everything. Helmet, jacket gloves etc, license etc bike locks etc.
Until this morning. That all changed. My "loved" bike arrived this morning. Its John's old ZZR (do the math - No offence John :D ). Was (and will) make a thread about it, coz I need some advice/help.
Mr Skid
7th May 2005, 18:22
Do you think you're a gravel specialist or summut Mr Skid? A few of us had a chat on the KB ride 2day about you changing your site name from Papparazi (sp?) :whistle:It's a vague reference to WRC where they refer to drivers like Gardemeister as 'gravel specialists'. If you think it sounds too arrogrant, let me know and I'll change it.
As for the name change, I'm just parted with my Nikon F4s body today. The rest of my equipment is up for sale too. Can't be paparazzi without a camera right?
Ghost Lemur
7th May 2005, 21:51
It's a vague reference to WRC where they refer to drivers like Gardemeister as 'gravel specialists'. If you think it sounds too arrogrant, let me know and I'll change it.
As for the name change, I'm just parted with my Nikon F4s body today. The rest of my equipment is up for sale too. Can't be paparazzi without a camera right?
Hope you're at least planning on spending the proceeds on new bike/bike bits.
Mr Skid
7th May 2005, 21:59
Hope you're at least planning on spending the proceeds on new bike/bike bits.It's going towards a 600cc trail bike. Probably a XT600, but would consider a XR600, TT600R or similar.
Sniper
8th May 2005, 08:11
What is with all these bins lately. People, start using your noggin and be careful
It's a vague reference to WRC where they refer to drivers like Gardemeister as 'gravel specialists'. If you think it sounds too arrogrant, let me know and I'll change it.
As for the name change, I'm just parted with my Nikon F4s body today. The rest of my equipment is up for sale too. Can't be paparazzi without a camera right?Good to know there's a method to your madness! I was just having you on. Keep the name, it suits you.
And all the best with your off-road adventures too! :ride:
What is with all these bins lately. People, start using your noggin and be carefulIn a sense, these bins where the newbie rider and bike walk away pretty much unscathed (like this one and the one on yesterday's Ak ride), are a good wake up call that will cause the rider to remember to use his noggin and be more careful in future! :yes:
Btw, accidents are inevitable in motorcycling, that's why many in here continually emphasize the necessity of investing in good gears. It's encouraging to see most peeps on KB rides wearing *full* protection!
Badcat
8th May 2005, 09:58
If you think your going to crash, open the throttle. The worst thing that will happen is you'll still crash.
man - that should be your sig.
k
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Btw, accidents are inevitable in motorcycling, that's why many in here continually emphasize the necessity of investing in good gears. It's encouraging to see most peeps on KB rides wearing *full* protection!
With all respect, and no offence intended, but got to disagree here. Crashs are not inevitable. And can at least be very rare . There are plenty of people on this site that have ridden for 20 years and more without crashing. - Granted here I'm meaning crash as a "proper' crash , not bike falling off stand, forgotting to put foot down when stopping , losing it on the grass at 5kph etc. Or off road/track.
I do think that statements like "accidents are inevitable' are unwise . New riders see them and get the wrong idea ("oh well , everybody crashs so it's no big deal if I do also" ). As will any non-motorcylists who pick up on the sentiment. We have enough problems with parents, partners, bosses etc who think motorcycling is horribly dangerous without reinforcing thestereotype (Yes it is dangerous, but the danger can be mitigated and controlled)
Crashing is always bad. It is the ultimate uncool, and it is not inevitable. Ride safe, slow down! Remember everyone - black squishy bits down, pink squishy bits up. Always.
Sniper
8th May 2005, 10:50
Im with Ixion here, the only accidents I have had are due to idiots on the road (and 1 where the mud guard fell off) none by my choosing
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If you think your going to crash, open the throttle. The worst thing that will happen is you'll still crash.
This does work in gravel or offroad. A big handfull of throttle will often get you out of a shit situation. Or, at least, change the shit situation to a new shit situation. And if you do still drop it, the extra handfull doesn't seem to amke much difference.
BUT DON"T DO IT ON THE SEAL, okay. Or , any rate, not unless you know exactly what you are doing)
Mr Skid
8th May 2005, 13:14
man - that should be your sig.
k
Done. I'll direct any complaints about it not working to you. :msn-wink:
This does work in gravel or offroad. A big handfull of throttle will often get you out of a shit situation. Or, at least, change the shit situation to a new shit situation. And if you do still drop it, the extra handfull doesn't seem to amke much difference.
BUT DON"T DO IT ON THE SEAL, okay. Or , any rate, not unless you know exactly what you are doing)
Thanks for that clarification Ixion, I probably wasn't specific in my first post that I was refering to loose stuff with that comment.
Thanks for that clarification Ixion, I probably wasn't specific in my first post that I was refering to loose stuff with that comment.
Sorry. Not being smart, I know you know the distinction. Just a bit concerned that a new rider might interpret as being a universal remedy. I'm getting a bit paranoid about the new(er) chums crashing lately. :no:
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