Wardens told to hit 100 a day

[spajohn]

One senior warden told junior staff he ticketed his own mother $200 for no registration to raise his daily quota, while another was nicknamed The Terminator because he was quiet and quick, former parking warden Campbell Parminter said.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3255750/Wardens-told-to-hit-100-a-day

[mashman]

So, a company registered in Luxembourg (most likely paying next to zero tax after taking up residency (6 months and you're a resident)) have the contract to provide parking attendant services to the councils of New Zealand. It's a pretty competitive job too by the sounds of things. This is how you do your job, go do it! They provide damned good training from what i can see. At the end of the day Tyco take an unspecified profit from New Zealand, a share of 9.9 million dollars for Wellington alone and will not disclose how much!!! I understand, from limited reading, that companies that bank through Luxembourg are protected by privacy laws and thus won't have to tell the NZ government how much they earn from the enterprise for taxation purposes. Pah!!! and we wonder where all the money goes!

[Mully]

Are you surprised at either bit of news?

[mashman]

Are you surprised at either bit of news?

I suppose not. I fully realise that big business hides out in tax havens for the specific purpose of having a healthy bottom line and realise that privatisation generally means money leaving the country of its origin, none more so than NZ it seems. Yet there's nothing ANYONE can done about it. That's really where my surprise lies i guess...

[bogan]

I suppose not. I fully realise that big business hides out in tax havens for the specific purpose of having a healthy bottom line and realise that privatisation generally means money leaving the country of its origin, none more so than NZ it seems. Yet there's nothing ANYONE can done about it. That's really where my surprise lies i guess...

Well NZ companies could become competitive with the overseas ones I spose, though kiwis are probably too laid back and not cut throat enough to really get shit done, which is a good thing imo. Pretty much the police traffic fine quota all over again! Though I think wardens have to photograph each infringement it still is a lot of hassle to get let off one, specially when their photo doesn't show the full picture, my camera phone for the $60 saving win!

[mashman]

Well NZ companies could become competitive with the overseas ones I spose, though kiwis are probably too laid back and not cut throat enough to really get shit done, which is a good thing imo. Pretty much the police traffic fine quota all over again! Though I think wardens have to photograph each infringement it still is a lot of hassle to get let off one, specially when their photo doesn't show the full picture, my camera phone for the $60 saving win!

Pah! I suppose it's easier to sell your business, if someone offers you wads of cash, than it is to keep flogging away trying to make ends meet... I know next to nothing about the kiwi attitude... although those that i have met over the last 25 years or so have been firey little bastards... hence one of the reasons i came here.

I suppose the real insult is that we tie up the NZ court system with people trying to get out of parking tickets. I wouldn't mind if the money was generated in NZ for NZ, but it ain't...

[Mully]

I suppose not. I fully realise that big business hides out in tax havens for the specific purpose of having a healthy bottom line and realise that privatisation generally means money leaving the country of its origin, none more so than NZ it seems. Yet there's nothing ANYONE can done about it. That's really where my surprise lies i guess...

The overseas companies offer the local council a better return (not that it's for profit, tui anyone?) on the tickets issued.

I guess the flip side is you have to know your wardens are out there issuing tickets, rather than not doing anything - hence the KPIs involved.

[crazyhorse]

This is a sad sad world we live in :(

[mashman]

The overseas companies offer the local council a better return (not that it's for profit, tui anyone?) on the tickets issued.

I guess the flip side is you have to know your wardens are out there issuing tickets, rather than not doing anything - hence the KPIs involved.

shame the same smart arse that came up with the idea of outsourcing didn't think about re-training and the setting of KPI's... Is it so much easier to outsource services these days? Really, what's the advantage? Sure by outsourcing the service it becomes someone elses problem, but you've likely also thrown a few people on the unemployed list (expensive) as well as removing vital funds from your local authority... People running countries should not solely be comprised of businessmen, but of "analysts" who are willing to think their way throiugh things instead of just giving up. Is this giving up thing the apathy of New Zealanders i keep hearing about?

[Mully]

shame the same smart arse that came up with the idea of outsourcing didn't think about re-training and the setting of KPI's... Is it so much easier to outsource services these days? ?

The short answer is: Consultants.

The long answer: Councils (and companies) hire (for huge amounts) consultants who tell them to stick with their "Core Business" (tm) and not to do anything that isn't "Core Business"

Then, the CEO/GM decides (presumably in his lunch break) what the "Core Business" is/should be. (Note; this is subject to change according to CEO/GM replacement).

Then, he outsources anything that isn't "Core Business" (regardless of whether or not he's making money doing it in-house) and congratulates himself with an enormous bonus because he's just "saved" the council/company $X in wages and admin running these "fringe" business units (not withstanding that those business units were generating significant revenue, which doesn't feature in his calculations).

[peasea]

This is a sad sad world we live in :(

Not where I live; I have beer.

[crazyhorse]

Not where I live; I have beer.

Yip! It's good to hear you have something to be thank ful for :rofl:

[peasea]

Yip! It's good to hear you have something to be thank ful for :rofl:

That and a very low cop/kilometre ratio!!

Hey I lived in Hastings for a while (Beresford St, Murdoch Rd) had a ball. Still got a soft spot for the place and recall getting my Pontiac airborne going over the railway lines in (I think) St Aubyn St. It's timely to remember that AC/DC's Back In Black was on the charts and played regularly in my flat and my car! Yee fuckin har!

[woodyracer]

warden tryed to give me a ticket yesterday for having an "expired rego', i thoguht thats funny my rego dosnt expire until april.......i tlaked to the boss.......turns out i dotn have to pay the $200 anymore...:woohoo:

[FJRider]

Yip! It's good to hear you have something to be thank ful for :rofl:

I'm just thanful I don't live anywhere these parking wardens are ... mind you, we don't have parking meters .... :killingme

We do have a Bus stop though ... :innocent: ... sometimes a BUS actually parks on it too ... :lol:

[FJRider]

The short answer is: Consultants.

The long answer: Councils (and companies) hire (for huge amounts) consultants who tell them to stick with their "Core Business" (tm) and not to do anything that isn't "Core Business"

Then, the CEO/GM decides (presumably in his lunch break) what the "Core Business" is/should be. (Note; this is subject to change according to CEO/GM replacement).

Then, he outsources anything that isn't "Core Business" (regardless of whether or not he's making money doing it in-house) and congratulates himself with an enormous bonus because he's just "saved" the council/company $X in wages and admin running these "fringe" business units (not withstanding that those business units were generating significant revenue, which doesn't feature in his calculations).

Plus the "consultant fees" ... a tidy little ... loss ...

[crazyhorse]

That and a very low cop/kilometre ratio!!

Hey I lived in Hastings for a while (Beresford St, Murdoch Rd) had a ball. Still got a soft spot for the place and recall getting my Pontiac airborne going over the railway lines in (I think) St Aubyn St. It's timely to remember that AC/DC's Back In Black was on the charts and played regularly in my flat and my car! Yee fuckin har!
Woohoo - good for you. Yeah, you can still get your car airborne over those railway lines. Some things around here just haven't changed much. Esp Murdoch Road area LOL

So when are you coming back for a visit??

[crazyhorse]

I'm just thanful I don't live anywhere these parking wardens are ... mind you, we don't have parking meters .... :lillingme

We do have a Bus stop though ... :innocent: ... sometimes a BUS actually parks on it too ... :lol:

thats what you get when you live in the sticks :rofl:

[FJRider]

thats what you get when you live in the sticks :rofl:

An being the modern Metropolis that Alexandra is ... We got one of those new fangled thingamy's ... a roundabout. (We cant afford the power to run a traffic light.)


An we dont live in the sticks ... thats farther down the road ... :lol:

[crazyhorse]

An being the modern Metropolis that Alexandra is ... We got one of those new fangled thingamy's ... a roundabout. (We cant afford the power to run a traffic light.)

hehehehehehe :rofl: yeah, well Havelock North doesn't have those light things either - but they have had roundabout thingamys for a while now.

Been trying all day to rep you, and it still tells me I have to spread it around............Grrrrrrrrrr!

[FJRider]

Been trying all day to rep you, and it still tells me I have to spread it around............Grrrrrrrrrr!

but not as flash as OUR one ....


re rep for me: TRY HARDER ... :innocent:

[peasea]

Woohoo - good for you. Yeah, you can still get your car airborne over those railway lines. Some things around here just haven't changed much. Esp Murdoch Road area LOL

So when are you coming back for a visit??

Dunno, is the Angus Inn still pumpin'? (Jeez that's soooo long ago.)

[crazyhorse]

Dunno, is the Angus Inn still pumpin'? (Jeez that's soooo long ago.)

OMG!!!! The Angus Inn :rofl: I think that died................. along with Jupiters night club :lol:

Jeez, you really haven't been here for ages, have you

[FJRider]

Jeez, you really haven't been here for ages, have you

ahhhhhh the benefit of living in the sticks ... nuthing changes ...


We had a nightclub once ...

[Mully]

Plus the "consultant fees" ... a tidy little ... loss ...

Pfft, no. Don't you know anything.

Consultant fees come from a different budget - probably Capex - not the Operations budget. CEO/GM is concerned with his operational budget.

Amateur.

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[peasea]

OMG!!!! The Angus Inn :rofl: I think that died................. along with Jupiters night club :lol:

Jeez, you really haven't been here for ages, have you

Jupiters? Doesn't ring a bell. I used to go to Bananas in Napier!

I lived in Hastings from 81-83, was heavily involved in drag racing at Thunderpark and built countless engines for Brett Wilson, Wilson's V8 Parts. The memories are flooding back in, scary stuff, great days.

[crazyhorse]

Jupiters? Doesn't ring a bell. I used to go to Bananas in Napier!

I lived in Hastings from 81-83, was heavily involved in drag racing at Thunderpark and built countless engines for Brett Wilson, Wilson's V8 Parts. The memories are flooding back in, scary stuff, great days.

I've heard of Banana's - but never went - I was clearly too young :innocent:. I do know of Brett WIlson. And sure as heck, miss the Drags here :crybaby:

[peasea]

I've heard of Banana's - but never went - I was clearly too young :innocent:. I do know of Brett WIlson. And sure as heck, miss the Drags here :crybaby:

Bananas was reputed to have had the most powerful night club sound system in the southern hemisphere at that time. Conversation was pointless. The sound was incredibly punchy and crisp and would put ripples in your drink.

Brett left the country in a bit of a hurry, owing me and a buddy some money. However, he'd forgotten about a swag of engine parts we had so we built a couple of motors out of them and ended up making on the deal. He'd managed to get a bunch of people annoyed I think, vehicles were being reposssed left right and centre. Kinda funny but not.

What about 'Paws' lager? Absolute rubbish.

[crazyhorse]

Bananas was reputed to have had the most powerful night club sound system in the southern hemisphere at that time.
What about 'Paws' lager? Absolute rubbish.
I remember those days with loud music and going home with husky voices due to trying to have conversations..... LOL

"paws" - never heard of that at all......... SOunds grosse too :yes:

[mashman]

Pfft, no. Don't you know anything.

Consultant fees come from a different budget - probably Capex - not the Operations budget. CEO/GM is concerned with his operational budget.

Amateur.

(/pt)

bloody good point. Although it depends on whether consultancy is a standard part of your opex (which can be the case when being audited for various compliences). In which case you have to spend it every year, otherwise it's clawed back, never to be seen again... Shame that the only time organisational change is affected is when there's been a bad few months, or year etc... CEO/GM takes their golden hand shake and rides off into the sunset to get an even better paid job!!!