Wellington's Weds night group ride RANT

[Str8 Jacket]

I know that what I am about to say will get me flamed to hell and back. Quite frankly, I dont give a shit.
Now firstly, I apologise for being at the front of the group on my slow old FXR at the start of the hill and secondly, I am not grouping everyone into this rant.

Guy's, I am genuinely appalled at what I experienced on the TCWNR tonight. I know I am not a nana on the road and do often ride at over the speed limit but what I saw tonight freaked me out so much that I pulled into the summit and went home.

Since when is it OK to pass people IN THE SAME FUCKING LANE while going round a corner?!?! Along with watching out for wannabe Rossi's I had to watch some of you cross the centre lane sometimes 3 of you in a row round corners you cou;dn't see around, and dont give me the "there was plenty of room" crap, I was right next to you, you couldn't see!

I do not want to be killed OR scrape someone off the road because someone just had to get past me or because someone wanted to treat the road like a race track. I race and I have never been so scared while riding then I was tonight. I think that some of you need to take a step back and have a think about what your doing and the image that you give others.

WTF happened to the "cruisy" Weds night ride?

Let the flaming begin....

[Laxi]

didn't make the ride tonight (was right behind you in the cage when you were shaking your head at the halfwit at the belmont lights) but ive seen a few dodgy things this season, good on ya for saying somthing about it, theres a lot of wncrs left and nobody wants a major accident

[Str8 Jacket]

didn't make the ride tonight (was right behind you in the cage when you were shaking your head at the halfwit at the belmont lights) but ive seen a few dodgy things this season, good on ya for saying somthing about it, theres a lot of wncrs left and nobody wants a major accident

Yep, I debated the whole way home but I was so fucked off that I couldn't hold it, I have lost too many mates on bikes.

I had not done the Weds night ride for years. I wont be doing it again. I knew there was a reason why I gave up group rides!

[pc220]

Good on ya for speaking up.

[Quasievil]

group rides = DEATH

[Hans]

I have to agree. While I'm fully aware of the fact that I'm a lot slower/less competent than most other riders present, last Wednesday looked a lot more like death than like a cruisy ride. It certainly didn't look like an easy ride to the pub with an element of mentoring. I'm not saying this to moralise or be a killjoy, merely to say that I agree with Hels and I won't be attending next time.

[Lilly2w]

Yeah, they seem to have morphed into a pack of scary bastards just lately, seriously considered not doing another one after last week, but then I thought stuff it! I'll just hang at the back where all the really cool kids ride.

[Str8 Jacket]

Yeah, they seem to have morphed into a pack of scary bastards just lately, seriously considered not doing another one after last week, but then I thought stuff it! I'll just hang at the back where all the really cool kids ride.

Yeah, that's what I should've done but I seriously thought that it was a 'Cruisy Weds Night Ride". What I found funny was that noone passed me on the motorway or going up toward the hill so I was practically in the front of the group when we hit the hill. Alot of people passed me nicely on the first passing lane or down the relatively straight bits but the antics I mentioned above all happened on the twisty bits going up the hill. I don't mind being passed but it's the manner in which people do it for me only to come round the next corner to see them all stuffed up a cars arse. Maybe it was because of the race numbers that I looked intimidating. FXR's can have that effect, lol!

[Lilly2w]

I blame it on Eugene's outfit, gets the rest of them all excited, sick bastards.

[F5 Dave]

You're just sore because they own'd you with superior extra manly riding ability & got to the top first for the trophy. There was trophies wasn't there?:tugger:

[Ronin]

You're just sore because they own'd you with superior extra manly riding ability & got to the top first for the trophy. There was trophies wasn't there?:tugger:

Yup, usually a hood ornament.

[Hitcher]

Well said Hels. I sometimes marvel about how other riders get their jollies. Being first over the Takas does not a good rider make.

[Her_C4]

. I knew there was a reason why I gave up group rides!

Yep apart from a select couple of riders, neither will I.

[spacemonkey]

Kinda glad I turned up late for the ride now.

[DingoZ]

Yup - had the same going over there in a cage the other week. Bloody idiots...

[Hans]

Yup - had the same going over there in a cage the other week. Bloody idiots...

It's probably fair to mention that there were 3 different rides on the hill last week.

[Quasievil]

Being first over the Takas does not a good rider make.

Could that be a grammar error? surely not Mr Hitcher?

My above comment was a bit daft sorry bout that peps

I've done the Takas a couple of times now with KB people and to be honest Im not surprised it has taken a few riders out , when groups gather for an "assault" on any particular road it seems the riders get into a frenzy of sorts to prove to their peers that they can ride fast, as if on a track, and along the way forgetting its a public road, without the public realising they are now driving on a race track with mostly Male egotisticle rev heads certainly makes for a dangerous combination sadly this has taken a fair few of our mates out in the past years, yet we learn nothing and keep doing it.................. errrrrrrrr why ?

You guys need to re assess what the ride is about and configure it appropriately, After what Helen has said clearly (to me anyway) that someone is going to come undone fairly soon.

Best Advise to anyone I can give is if your not comfortable with the Ride follow Helens lead and get out of it, there is nothing nice about coming around the corner to see a dead mate or two infront of you.

[F5 Dave]

And there's a spelling mistake 'egotisticle ', I think you mean 'egotesticle '

[Hans]

Or should that be EGOTESTICLE?

[F5 Dave]

Hah. I own you Hans.

[Hans]

And there's a spelling mistake 'egotisticle ', I think you mean 'egotesticle '

Great minds think alike.

[DingoZ]

It's probably fair to mention that there were 3 different rides on the hill last week.

Got nothing to do with the simple fact that there are people that are willing to put others at risk of an accident - injury or even worse. Large numbers of riders with f...wits pulling moves like Hels described, shows a total lack of respect for others on the road.

[Quasievil]

And there's a spelling mistake 'egotisticle ', I think you mean 'egotesticle '

Prolly, but I cant spell for shit, dont really care to much eifer

[Hans]

So what's the point of a group ride again? Why don't we just drop the "group" part and set a time to meet at the pub? This is a serious question.

[quallman1234]

Someone needs too take a little bit of command and tell the dumb fucks, to fuck off if they are in dangering there selves/others.

OFC Finding such a person who is willing, and people actually listening is whole new battle.

Thats why small-group rides with your well known mates is great.

[DingoZ]

So what's the point of a group ride again? Why don't we just drop the "group" part and set a time to meet at the pub? This is a serious question.

The point is to get together, catch up, talk bikes, talk some shit, go for a ride, enjoy a beverage, have some food and ride home. Enjoyably and safely, without anyone being put into a situation like Hels was. Setting a time to meet at the pub, is just gunna encourage people to get there faster if they are running late. How about just adopting and riding to the attitude, I'm gunna have fun, and I don't care if I'm last to the pub, or the fricken slowest...Or I have to heaven forbid, stay behind another rider, oh no the shame of it all.....

[Fatjim]

So Hels, you think there may finally be more wank on Wednesday than Thursday?

[Str8 Jacket]

So Hels, you think there may finally be more wank on Wednesday than Thursday?

I hate to say it but YES! I would rather ride with 'you lot' anyday!

It scared me a bit when the rescue helicopter went screaming over that way not long after I posted this thread.

I hope ya'll are alive. Please. please let it stay that way and grow the fuck up!

[Number One]

I have only been to two 'cruizy' Wed night rides over my time on KB (both quite far apart) and based on those I wouldn't attend again.

Agree ttoo that there is definitely more WANK on Wed than there is in Thursday - as I too (even as slow as I am) felt safer riding amongst and at back of their groups.

Something about many 'less than experienced boys out to prove themselves to smoother more experienced riders seemingly by making lots of dumb passing decisions'...fucking hairy....sad really - would be great to have an actual CRUIZY ride and some mentoring goin on.

Anywho - I'm probably selling my bike anyways - who wants an AWESOME SV650?

[nodrog]

so who won?

[Str8 Jacket]

so who won?

Me, cause I got home first!!! :yeah:

[Duke girl]

There's always 1 or 2 who have to spoil it for others which is all it takes. Like you said Hels if they want to ride like that why don't they do it on a Race Track. Group riding always makes you have your wits about you as you never know what there riding skills are like until you see it for yourself, and by then its usually dangerous.
You have made the right choice in not continuing your rides with them again.

[sinfull]

Me, cause I got home first!!! :yeah:
Ahhh but i got to the wairapa first at 2 pm and home at 9.30, so i bags the, who feels like they were run over by a tractor rather than riding one, trophy !
Was a superb day for it, thought about trying to track the wed night riders down to say hi and ride back ova the takas with ya's , but by the sounds of it, i would have just got in plebs way, haha my FXR is way wider Hells !
I've never enjoyed going slow so much !!!

[WuZards-Eugene]

"What I found funny was that noone passed me on the motorway or going up toward the hill so I was practically in the front of the group when we hit the hill."

Hay, thats not true Hels, I managed to pass everyone on the Motorway :lol:

[Str8 Jacket]

Hay, thats not true Hels, I managed to pass everyone on the Motorway :lol:

Do NOT get me started on you young man! :nono:

:laugh:

That was awesome, I love your cape! Cheers for stopping at the summit and having a ciggie with me/ listening to me vent!

[spacemonkey]

Hay, thats not true Hels, I managed to pass everyone on the Motorway :lol:

But you weren't on the motorway so it doesn't count! :p

[yungatart]

Interesting thread Hels...see, we all have choices...how we ride, join a group ride, or not, stay on a group ride, or not, and speak up about idiot behaviour, or not.
You made some excellent choices Hels, well done (me, I just gfo home and make a mental note to never ride with those people again...). If more people speak up maybe we'll have less of this kind of thing in the future. We can only hope so.

[WuZards-Eugene]

Do NOT get me started on you young man! :nono:

:laugh:

That was awesome, I love your cape! Cheers for stopping at the summit and having a ciggie with me/ listening to me vent!

Definitely stands out :lol: who needs a fluro jacket when you can have a stuntman suit with a cape. Good to see you again. Was fun following you up the hill


But you weren't on the motorway so it doesn't count! :p

Dammit. Still confused alot of people tho hehe :third:



Look what I found on the way home :confused: The Rimutaka Hill Rd :lol:

[spacemonkey]

Ah that explains why I didn't see you on the road coming back over. :laugh:

[carbonhed]

I know that what I am about to say will get me flamed to hell and back. Quite frankly, I dont give a shit.
Now firstly, I apologise for being at the front of the group on my slow old FXR at the start of the hill and secondly, I am not grouping everyone into this rant.

Guy's, I am genuinely appalled at what I experienced on the TCWNR tonight. I know I am not a nana on the road and do often ride at over the speed limit but what I saw tonight freaked me out so much that I pulled into the summit and went home.

Since when is it OK to pass people IN THE SAME FUCKING LANE while going round a corner?!?! Along with watching out for wannabe Rossi's I had to watch some of you cross the centre lane sometimes 3 of you in a row round corners you cou;dn't see around, and dont give me the "there was plenty of room" crap, I was right next to you, you couldn't see!

I do not want to be killed OR scrape someone off the road because someone just had to get past me or because someone wanted to treat the road like a race track. I race and I have never been so scared while riding then I was tonight. I think that some of you need to take a step back and have a think about what your doing and the image that you give others.

WTF happened to the "cruisy" Weds night ride?

Let the flaming begin....

Ughh... that makes sobering reading. We'll have to have a rant and rave session at the start of the next ride to restate what we're about because there seems to be a lot of new people lately.

From memory you let me past just before the Hill so I wasn't around for the carnage. i did get stuffed like a Christmas turkey by that derelict old cunt on the black Harley while sitting in a queue of bikes waiting to pass a car... maybe he started some shit and lit everybody up.

Whatever the reason it seems like people need to take a step back and rethink what they're doing.

Really sorry your ride turned out that way. :no:

Chris.

[Str8 Jacket]

@ carbonhead: Yeah, I had absolutely no issues with those that passed me before the hill and even some of the passing manouvres on the hill were sweet as too. The guy on the harley was mild in comparison to the "big balled boy wonders" that I could have put my elbow out and knocked. I am not naive as I have been riding for about 5 years now and have had my full licence for most of that. I also race on the track and have had a few ding dongs on the track but never, ever have I been so freaked out, even as a noob as I was last night.
The thing about group rides is that no one really knows the abilities of those around them. For all anyone knew I could have been a noob. What would have happened If I totally freaked and binned it.
Does anyone think that there may have been another group or even a poor lone rider coming the other way behaving in the same manner? Someone would've been seriously fucked up or dead.

[Ratti]

sounds to me like an alternate meeting place needs to be arranged. For the riders who dont want take part in the exisiting groups. There seems to be enough interest to make it worthwhile. I'd do the ride, but comments like this thread have put me off. I'd be interested in a genuinley quiet pootle.
Hoping to convince the Ulysses club to do a workday pootle of a couple of hours for riders who just want to go for a slow cruise and keep the bike ticking over.

[davebullet]

Simple solution - first one to the pub shouts everyone else a beer! (ginger that is - sober riding and all that).

Maybe we need to startup the Tuesday "too slow" rides. I like Hans idea of no group ride and you just make your way to a designated pub.

[ukiwi]

We were going to stop riding Wednesday nights but decided to give it one more try. For the ride over we sat at the back and had a great ride, the ride back however reminded us why we've stopped enjoying them so much.

I was passed on the hill by people like sels, gareth,the new guy on the grey Ducati and a couple of others, all very polite. They waited till it was safe, I moved over they gave me room and on we all went on our way safe and happy. Then came the fuckwit on the black bike, didn't see what it was, I was to busy praying. Passed me just before a bend, pushed me over to the kerb and forced me to brake hard standing the bike up and off in a direction I didn't want to go, thanks buddy.

Next week, I doubt it

[ukiwi]

Mister Bullet, its been a while

[Str8 Jacket]

Maybe we need to startup the Tuesday "too slow" rides. I like Hans idea of no group ride and you just make your way to a designated pub.

Ya see, I am not a slow rider, I only ride a slow bike. Don't get me wrong either, I am by no means complaining about the speed. I am complaining about the thoughtless and dangerous manner in which people are riding!

[Deano]

i did get stuffed like a Christmas turkey by that derelict old cunt on the black Harley while sitting in a queue of bikes waiting to pass a car... .

That'd be Russ. He was waiting for TRTNR a couple of weeks ago as well. Some of his overrtaking moves are a little questionable.

[centaurus]

Yeah, that's what I should've done but I seriously thought that it was a 'Cruisy Weds Night Ride". What I found funny was that noone passed me on the motorway or going up toward the hill so I was practically in the front of the group when we hit the hill. Alot of people passed me nicely on the first passing lane or down the relatively straight bits but the antics I mentioned above all happened on the twisty bits going up the hill. ...

My first cruisy wednesday ride was soon after I bought my bike. I had never been over the taka's and from all the stories, I was actually scared of that road, so I made sure I was at the end of the pack, not to be in anybodys way (was the second from the back). But somehow, as soon as we hit the hills, multiple riders on big sports bikes caught up with us (they were just "late") and started passing me in the corners. I absolutely shat myself. I was barely holding the bike up through the corners, not knowing whether to concentrate on the road ahead or just to keep looking in the mirrors so I'd be ready when the idiot behind me was going to wizz past me almost touching handlebars midcorner.

Much later I went in another wednesday ride thinking that the previous experience was just a fluke. This time I has more experienced so it didn't freak me out but I wasn't impressed either. A couple of times, while struggling to overtake a car in a passing lane (I was on a 250 at the time), I got passed by other "bigger" bikes too impatient to wait for me.

Since then I avoid any big group ride if I can. It's no pleasure continually "dodging" other riders.



Hay, thats not true Hels, I managed to pass everyone on the Motorway :lol:

As far as Eugene goes, him being so fearless and continually without tyres for his bikes, I think we should buy him a pair or rollerskates and one of us should tow him up the hill. This way he both gets his kicks and doesn't need to replace his tyres so often :D. The bonus would be that if we wants to do offroad, we can push him downhill through the trees :lol:

[Toaster]

Ya see, I am not a slow rider, I only ride a slow bike. Don't get me wrong either, I am by no means complaining about the speed. I am complaining about the thoughtless and dangerous manner in which people are riding!

It was my first Wednesday night ride with the group. I didnt see anyone do anything stupid, because I deliberately stayed behind the pack. I ride a very fast bike but I ride at a speed I can easily cope with. I prefer to ride the Takas slowly because of the poor road surface and I enjoyed the whole ride.

I am keen to see other riders who wish to cruise along to stay at the back with me if they like a very cruisy pace over the hill. I also attend the Thursday Kapiti ride and simply let everyone go first and then do the tricky bits at my own happy pace. No point binning my pride and joy or busting any more bones over an ego trip.

Cam.

[Trudes]

I don't go any more because of several reasons, one of which is that I won't ride with people I don't know any more, BUT
I was wondering if anyone actually is taking charge these days? It used to be organised by a couple of very experienced and well respected riders who nobody fucked with because others respected them enough not to do stupid shit as they knew they'd be politely asked to piss off. They used to give a bit of a briefing about where we were heading etc and if there were any new riders, they would go towards the rear where an experienced rider could keep an eye on them. There used to be a designated lead rider that wasn't to be passed and a tail-end-charlie to try and keep the group in some sort of 'group'. Does this not happen any more? Just sounds like a 'hoon over the hill with a bunch of strangers' which sounds like disaster waiting to happen to me. Maybe it needs some more organisation.......? And if you don't like being told what to do, then maybe group rides aren't for you?
JMHO.

[Str8 Jacket]

Yep Trudes, I hear you!!! Uncle B would be devestated.

[sinned]

It was my first Wednesday night ride with the group. I didnt see anyone do anything stupid, because I deliberately stayed behind the pack. I ride a very fast bike but I ride at a speed I can easily cope with. I prefer to ride the Takas slowly because of the poor road surface and I enjoyed the whole ride.

I am keen to see other riders who wish to cruise along to stay at the back with me if they like a very cruisy pace over the hill. I also attend the Thursday Kapiti ride and simply let everyone go first and then do the tricky bits at my own happy pace. No point binning my pride and joy or busting any more bones over an ego trip.

Cam.
I followed you over and missed the action - two big bikes in convoy at the back. I was to ride the lake circuit with the group but they had gone so went by myself and didn't catch them. We must have been no more than 2 minutes behind - they could have waited? What am I thinking - this is a KB ride!

[Trudes]

That's actually what upsets me the most about TCWNR turning into a potentially dangerous and unpleasant experience for especially newer riders. This regular group ride was started as a way for new riders to build confidence and for others to have a nice easy cruise. UncleB always made others feel comfortable and safe when on one of his rides and it sounds like this ride has become anything but that. Sad really.

[merv]

Hels were they all wearing shirts like this last night?

[Number One]

You made some excellent choices Hels, well done (me, I just gfo home and make a mental note to never ride with those people again...). If more people speak up maybe we'll have less of this kind of thing in the future. We can only hope so.

WTF??? Does this mean Hels is turning into Katman? :gob: :lol:

[Str8 Jacket]

Hels were they all wearing shirts like this last night?
hehe, my man is there right now. Rocking out his mullet no doubt!!


WTF??? Does this mean Hels is turning into Katman? :gob: :lol:
Katman is my hero, he passed my bike through scrutineering at TRRS... :)

[davebullet]

Mister Bullet, its been a while

Yes, it has hasn't it. I'd like to catchup with you and Lilly2w and check out your new bikes! The wed. rides have been a little bit hard lately - been traveling to Auckland a bit. Plus I'm getting soft and don't like the 'takas in the gusts (too dangerous). I don't enjoy the 'takas unless it is dry and calm. So it takes many a wednesday before the planets align. I've done a few longer trips on the SV and finally getting used to the bike.

It would be good for the 4 of us (incl. Mrs. B) to go out for a ride sometime.

[merv]

hehe, my man is there right now. Rocking out his mullet no doubt!!


:)

Haha, you did see that shirt was AD HD not AC DC? Snapped the pic a couple of weeks ago at Universal Studios Florida - think it reminded me of someone lol.

As for your man I thought he was a young fellah, but he's off with the old guys at the concert. My mates at work said today "did you see all the old bald guys on the street in their black T-shirts?

[Fatjim]

I might have to go just for a laugh.

I survived a Wednesday night last year, so I'm fairly confident.

[Str8 Jacket]

Haha, you did see that shirt was AD HD not AC DC?

Yep and ironically I have ADHD....

[Laxi]

As far as Eugene goes, I think we should buy him a pair or rollerskates and one of us should tow him up the hill.
funny you should say that after the discussion I had with him after showing him this
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seemed rather keen to give it a shot on the takas :rofl:

[centaurus]

funny you should say that after the discussion I had with him after showing him this
...
seemed rather keen to give it a shot on the takas :rofl:

Dude, that is awesome.

Are you sure that's not actually Eugene? It definitely is his style. You just need to imagine the guy wearing a red cape and you can swear it's him :D. On the other hand, if it were him we would have had a second video with the guy trying the same thing but backwards (face down but feet first) :D

[ecko_nzed]

I think people worry about being held responsible for co-ordinating a group ride that results in rider harming themselves or others. So it tends to be a every man/woman for themselves kind of ride. Which is fine because I trust no one and still have fond memories of not being able to sit down for days because of gravel rash on my arse, when my ego outweighed my abilities. I would have to say I think it has gotten worse since the road works started on the hill. Less legit passing opportunities, resulting in plenty of dodgey-arse overtaking.

With any group there are always implict norms (the rules no one talks about:shutup:), most people with a regular size ego joining a new group sit back and observe the group in an attempt to learn the rules. How about we stop being so secretive and educate the newbies and people with ego based learning disabilities on these rules? :bash:

That way, it's just an unorganised group ride that has a few simple rules that won't stifle people’s fun.:grouphug:

The only other thought I had was too get people who are up for a cruise, and are at the front of the pack, to stick to the left in single file on the kaitoke straights before the hill. If they then back off slightly ,people wanting a more spirited ride can overtake them SAFELY on the right. This would mean less bunching up.

[Laxi]

I just hang back and let the majority go 1st, that way the guys that are in a hurry are 1st out and I get left with the cruisy 1s, it's worked well for me so far, can be a problem coming back though, just keep a good eye on your mirrors

[Gareth51]

so who won?

Some old dude on a Harley,he went pass me like I was going backwards half way down the hill and by the time we got to the pub he was already siting down enjoying a pint

[Trudes]

That's how this ride orginally was, however as it's popularity grew and numbers swelled it needed to be made more structured, especially as it used to be a good place for new riders to come along and experience riding in a group and receive some tips and help from other more experienced riders. It sounds to me like nobody is taking any responsibility to let new comers know what is expected of them on such a group ride, and possibly the reason why no L platers turn up is because of the lack of organisation and fear of being wiped out by experienced riders who should know better as they haven't been told that it is a CRUISEY ride, not a race to the pub in Featherston or wherever. It doesn't need to have a zillion rules, but someone has to step up and say something before everyone roars off about GROUP pace, venue and having a little consideration for other riders..... something everyone could do with having a little think about at times.

I think people worry about being held responsible for co-ordinating a group ride that results in rider harming themselves or others. So it tends to be a every man/woman for themselves kind of ride. Which is fine because I trust no one and still have fond memories of not being able to sit down for days because of gravel rash on my arse, when my ego outweighed my abilities. I would have to say I think it has gotten worse since the road works started on the hill. Less legit passing opportunities, resulting in plenty of dodgey-arse overtaking.

With any group there are always implict norms (the rules no one talks about:shutup:), most people with a regular size ego joining a new group sit back and observe the group in an attempt to learn the rules. How about we stop being so secretive and educate the newbies and people with ego based learning disabilities on these rules? :bash:

That way, it's just an unorganised group ride that has a few simple rules that won't stifle people’s fun.:grouphug:

The only other thought I had was too get people who are up for a cruise, and are at the front of the pack, to stick to the left in single file on the kaitoke straights before the hill. If they then back off slightly ,people wanting a more spirited ride can overtake them SAFELY on the right. This would mean less bunching up.

[Laxi]

yep id agree with trudes on that, I went on my 1st wncr 3 days after passing BHS and liked it for the social asspect and I got to drill some advise out of experienced riders. If my 1st ride had had any dodgy manouvers I dont know if I would have been on as many as I have,

[Toaster]

That's actually what upsets me the most about TCWNR turning into a potentially dangerous and unpleasant experience for especially newer riders. This regular group ride was started as a way for new riders to build confidence and for others to have a nice easy cruise. UncleB always made others feel comfortable and safe when on one of his rides and it sounds like this ride has become anything but that. Sad really.

The cruiser group went the same way. Cruisey rides became much faster over time.

Simple solution is either split the group and ride behind at your own pace or start a new ride group at a more relaxed pace. I'm all for a comfortable cruise. That way you can enjoy the bikes around you and heaven forbid even the scenery!

[Badjelly]

...they haven't been told that it is a CRUISEY ride...

Mind you, you'd think the name "Cruisy Wednesday Night Ride" would give them a clue.

[davebullet]

All right. The challenge has been laid. Weather permitting, I'll be at the next ride and I DARE anyone to ride slower and safer than me!

Then I will organise the t-shirts with "I survived TCWNR!"

[Toaster]

All right. The challenge has been laid. Weather permitting, I'll be at the next ride and I DARE anyone to ride slower and safer than me!

Then I will organise the t-shirts with "I survived TCWNR!"

You're on. What's the wager?

[Swoop]

So. There has been no mention of the "dreaded ginger cop" from Hazzard county yet...

[centaurus]

So. There has been no mention of the "dreaded ginger cop" from Hazzard county yet...

I guess he has just been mentioned :D

[Number One]

So. There has been no mention of the "dreaded ginger cop" from Hazzard county yet...

Probably because we don't suffer from that 'particular' upper north island affliction down here.

[Swoop]

Probably because we don't suffer from that 'particular' upper north island affliction down here.
He likes KB group rides... or so I've heard!

[davebullet]

You're on. What's the wager?

Damn... I hate it when people call my bluff.

Hmmmm... we'll make it easy. Busa for the SV?

Still serious about being the safest rider. I'll even indicate 3 seconds ahead of any maneouvre!

[Toaster]

Damn... I hate it when people call my bluff.

Hmmmm... we'll make it easy. Busa for the SV?

Still serious about being the safest rider. I'll even indicate 3 seconds ahead of any maneouvre!

Falling off is a maneouvre.

[Dafe]

So this is what has become of The Cruisy Wednesday Night Rides......
Since UncleB departed us, I attended just one TCWNR about a year ago. I was appalled to see some dickhead in full alpinestars leathers on a R6 popping wheelies past the bridge in towards the carpark area. Had it been two years earlier, I would have politely told him to "F#@% Off!" But after three years away from TCWNR, I had become somewhat of a stranger. I realised before the ride even started that TCWNR had lost its purpose.
I remember sitting down with Bruce and writing the Spiel that would be the "Rules & Conditions" for attending TCWNR. They fronted TCWNR forum thread and clearly stated that a lead and tail end would always be assigned and if you felt you couldn't remain within the group because you needed a blat, that TCWNR was not for you. It was harsh but it drew the line well, In the interests of the newbie riders.
It's a shame it's gone out the window. TCWNR's were proof (Initially) that group rides can work very well.

So is there any other Welly rides happening now or is everybody just doing their own thing?

[KoroJ]

So this is what has become of The Cruisy Wednesday Night Rides......
........So is there any other Welly rides happening now or is everybody just doing their own thing?

Uncle Uly is still operating in this area with an element of restraint and decorum. One needs to be an old fart but!

I haven't attended a lot of these rides over the last couple of years but will no doubt tray again next year to see if anything's changed. I blame Sels for the problems...he's a bit of bogan nowadays.

[Insanity_rules]

Yep Trudes, I hear you!!! Uncle B would be devestated.

Agreed! The last one I went on, even I got carved up and well you know what I ride like.

[Laxi]

Agreed! The last one I went on, even I got carved up and well you know what I ride like.

hardly ever??? :blip:

[Insanity_rules]

hardly ever??? :blip:

Try being married to a business!!!!

[Laxi]

Try being married to a business!!!!

mate you own the business, not the other way round :no:

[Insanity_rules]

mate you own the business, not the other way round :no:

I'm begining to wonder!!!

[Laxi]

I'm begining to wonder!!!

i'll be thinking about ya while i'm out riding this weekend :niceone: ( not really just trying to make you feel better, ya big poof :bleh: :rofl:)

[Insanity_rules]

ya big poof :bleh: :rofl:)

That statement almost sounds hopeful. You see something your attracted to?

[spacemonkey]

That statement almost sounds hopeful. You see something your attracted to?

A honda? :buggerd:

[Insanity_rules]

A honda? :buggerd:

Yeah I always thought it was honda riders that were like that but apparently Yamaha riders too!

[Laxi]

That statement almost sounds hopeful. You see something your attracted to?

yeah, your ducati!! not you ya ugly git!!!! :rofl:

[Insanity_rules]

yeah, your ducati!! not you ya ugly git!!!! :rofl:

Well next time you want a drunken blowie then you can just go somewhere else Mr!

[Laxi]

Well next time you want a drunken blowie then you can just go somewhere else Mr!

:cry::cry::cry:

and I wonder why they recon you honda owners are gay???

[Laxi]

you, Eugene and kit can all do the "Honda shake" together :blip: i'll send em up this weekend

[Insanity_rules]

:cry::cry::cry:

and I wonder why they recon you honda owners are gay???

Yay I win at gay chicken!!!! Now go look at my counting with Boobies thread, its epic if I do say so myself.

[Laxi]

Yay I win at gay chicken!!!! .

FARRRRK!!!! we alll knows you is gay & chicken dude, now stop advertising will ya?!!!