Thinking of trading

[bones135]

Or maybe selling the Duc, been looking at R1s & just wondering what peoples thoughts are. Love the Duc but getting rather keen on the R1s as well so if anyones got any (nice) advice i would appreciate it muchly, cheers

[Batcerb]

Not much wrong with an R1 :) plenty of decient ones on trade me at the mo.

As you know, will be a big performance upgrade. Not sure the SS would be something that would sell quickly, got a mate whos been trying to move his on for the past couple months.
But you never know!
Anywhere you might be able to get a test ride?

[bones135]

Yea they seem to do the trick, been looking at a couple round the place & was told today i should get in the area of 8-8 1/2 for the Duc.
Living in Whitianga things are pretty limited....should i say non existant regarding a test ride so just testing the market so to speak.

[Bikemad]

Spoke to a guy at a puke control day a while ago about his big bang R1...........he loved it..........also owned a 1098 and reckoned there wasnt much between them...........duke a tad more stable cornering.
Sounded grouse too...........very V twinish

[bones135]

Yea not sure what it is about them just love em, had the duc for about a year & a half & figure its time for something a lil bigger & that seems to hit the spot

[Winston001]

Nothing wrong with an R1. What about a 916 Ducati - an ST4. I used to have one (sob). I loved that bike. High performance watercooled 4 valve 11 sec quarter mile etc. Not an R1 but a DUCATI.

[bones135]

LOL yea true, i love the Duc & ive had no probs whatsoever with it, if i could afford it id have one of each.......lotto dream again,lol
Thought about the 916 or 999, just unsure & looking at options i spose,

[SixPackBack]

In the last month I have ridden: 09 R1, 09 GSXR1000, 09 ZX10, and 09 CBR1000. All for the purpose of seeking a suitable replacement for my 06 GSXR.

IMHO the R1 was by far the worse bike, I could not tell that much difference in the power delivery, and certainly the connectivity between the throttle and rear wheel that yamaha raves about was absent, it had the least power of all 4 bikes, and vibrates oddly before smoothing out nicely. The bike feels big, ungainly and frankly a little porkie [especially when compared to the CBR and ZX]. The comfort and compliance the GSXR has was completey lacking in the R1, and if I was in a hurry an R6 would be well in front of the R1 on virtually any road.

The R1 was without a doubt the most disappointing sportsbike [and the most over rated] I have ridden within memory. For the record the CBR would be my favourite, it feels like a 600, has a great compromise between comfort and performance and in my mind at least was a clear winner of the SPB comparo shootout.

One of the aspects of the GSXR and ZX that totally ruined the experience is a high frequency vibration through the bars at the legal speed limit, they both smooth out nicely, but by that stage the speedo's are reading 140 plus. Not a problem unless you value your licence.:shutup:

The enduring impression I have after riding the latest big bore sports bike is how all seem to be moving away from road user friendliness. Far to stiffly sprung, ergonomics suited mainly for the track, and power delivery moving further up the rev range. Great for the track, but not ideally suited for a fang up your favourite 'B; road.

[Pussy]

In the last month I have ridden: 09 R1, 09 GSXR1000, 09 ZX10, and 09 CBR1000. All for the purpose of seeking a suitable replacement for my 06 GSXR.

IMHO the R1 was by far the worse bike, I could not tell that much difference in the power delivery, and certainly the connectivity between the throttle and rear wheel that yamaha raves about was absent, it had the least power of all 4 bikes, and vibrates oddly before smoothing out nicely. The bike feels big, ungainly and frankly a little porkie [especially when compared to the CBR and ZX]. The comfort and compliance the GSXR has was completey lacking in the R1, and if I was in a hurry an R6 would be well in front of the R1 on virtually any road.

The R1 was without a doubt the most disappointing sportsbike [and the most over rated] I have ridden within memory. For the record the CBR would be my favourite, it feels like a 600, has a great compromise between comfort and performance and in my mind at least was a clear winner of the SPB comparo shootout.

One of the aspects of the GSXR and ZX that totally ruined the experience is a high frequency vibration through the bars at the legal speed limit, they both smooth out nicely, but by that stage the speedo's are reading 140 plus. Not a problem unless you value your licence.:shutup:

The enduring impression I have after riding the latest big bore sports bike is how all seem to be moving away from road user friendliness. Far to stiffly sprung, ergonomics suited mainly for the track, and power delivery moving further up the rev range. Great for the track, but not ideally suited for a fang up your favourite 'B; road.


Clearly, you need to have a decent scoot on a '06 onwards sem fiddy.....

[SixPackBack]

Clearly, you need to have a decent scoot on a '06 onwards sem fiddy.....

Hahahaha. How right you are, and how well suited the 750 is as perhaps the penultimate road bike [I have ridden an 06]....And to ;bones' I would say; do yourself a favour and get a ride on a late model 750.
Sadly my dodgy neck is screaming [along with my Dr] for a more relaxed riding position. After riding a couple of motards I'm currently 'ticking off' the nakeds. Tuono, S4R and Speed Triple. Will let you know how I get on Pussy.

[Pussy]

Hahahaha. How right you are, and how well suited the 750 is as perhaps the penultimate road bike [I have ridden an 06]....And to ;bones' I would say; do yourself a favour and get a ride on a late model 750.
Sadly my dodgy neck is screaming [along with my Dr] for a more relaxed riding position. After riding a couple of motards I'm currently 'ticking off' the nakeds. Tuono, S4R and Speed Triple. Will let you know how I get on Pussy.
The Speed Triple would have to be top of the list, SPB.
When I grow up, I'm going to get one!.......

[Frenchy]

Pussy doesnt know what he is talking about you had it right from the start! Get an R1 you wont regret it :)
and nothing will make you forget about your dodgy neck more then holding on for dear life on an R1!!

[slowpoke]

[FONT=Comic Sans MS]The enduring impression I have after riding the latest big bore sports bike is how all seem to be moving away from road user friendliness. Far to stiffly sprung, ergonomics suited mainly for the track, and power delivery moving further up the rev range. Great for the track, but not ideally suited for a fang up your favourite 'B; road.



Yep, can't help agreeing with this. While the latest sportsbikes are amazing on track, comparable with mega-dollar world superbikes of just a few years ago, as road tools they are kind of underwhelming. Well from a power delivery standpoint anyway.

If I had my time again I'd go for an early R1 or GSXR and enjoy the sub-10krpm rush that you just don't get on the new stuff. I'd spend what the new bike would depreciate in a year on upgrading the suspenders/brakes on the older bike and be grinning all the way to the bank.

[bones135]

Well heaps of positives & negatives, guess it comes down to taking a few differant bikes for a ride & see for myself then make my decision. Hard parts finding one without travelling for a day first,lol

[imdying]

Take a new blade for a ride... it's a little... odd.

It doesn't matter how fast or slow you want to ride, it gives the feedback of "Sure, let's do that then!. A little faster sir, no problem. A lot faster, that's no problem either. Sir wants to break from 280km/hr as fast as possible, no trouble, let's do that then!"

I know that sounds a bit funny, but you really should try one, you'll either really really love it, or totally despise it, I reckon. It never ever gets in the way by having an obnoxious power band, unpredictable brakes, weird suspension (bit firm for NZ roads but would be great on a track), it just totally focuses on delivering exactly what you as of it. 6 hours in the saddle and want to brush off the last 200km home before it gets dark in an hour, absolutely no trouble.

I imagine it's like using a perfectly weighted samurai (of course) sword in anger... precise, the perfect balance of speed and aggression... in a word, blissful. You get the feeling the designers were told to build the best weapon they could.

The only fault I could find is that the bottom end suffers from the same fate as all new bikes; emissions testing in the 3500-4500 range means it feels lean and nowhere near as muscular as it could be. It's almost feels that the bike is insulted that bureaucrats have blemished what is otherwise essentially a perfect sporting motorcycle. No matter, nothing a PCV wouldn't fix.

You do get the feeling that should you ever crash it, the bike would never have been part of the problem, and would have done it's damnedest to save you. All sounds a bit girly doesn't it... well, up to 10000rpm perhaps, no such thoughts after that, oh no :no:

[SVboy]

Imdying, your new Blade looks horn!!! That Repsol scheme is gorgeous! Is it abs?

[imdying]

Naw, they don't make the Repsol in ABS sadly :no: I'll live without it to have the silver frame and swingarm though :yes:

Sorry we didn't stop at the pub yesterday, we sort of lost Liz along the way (following you back to town no less!) due to a little miscommunication (Andy and I always take the right at the bottom of the hill and meet up at the boat ramp).

[Batcerb]

Probably the best thing to do - take a trip to 1 of the centers some weekend, go round the shops and just try a bunch of different machines

[bones135]

Yea think thats the best option, so many to chose from. Been looking at R1s, FZ1s, Firestorms???? what to do what to do,lol

[Bardman]

I got an 09 R1, great power, great feedback through the bike, guys i ride with reckon im riding better than previous bike(04 R1) Its a good THING!
I agree with Batcurb, take a trip to the city, test ride the machines which interest you and go from there, if you call ahead the bike shops can have a bike ready to test so you can get as many rides as pos, keep us informed on progress.

[bones135]

Will do mate & thanks for that too, never thought about the phoning ahead thing....may well save quite a bit of time.
Cheers

[Petrolic]

All these machines have more power than you can you could dream of using on the road so I would go with what one looks the hottest. Choose the one that stars at you when you admire it (freaky) Thats the R1 BUt believe me take it to the track and scrape the pegs and then you will see how it handles. Happy hunting