Fucken Greenies

[Tank]

From the Greens webite - this is their latest MP replacing Fitzsimmonds.

Seriousley - how the fuck can people vote for for a party of nuts who put forward fucktard people like this:

At 26 years of age, Gareth is the youngest Green Party elec­torate can­di­date. Gareth used to be a boy racer, worked in a fish and chip store, a super­mar­ket, he’s been a radio DJ, a tele­mar­keter, a pam­phlet deliv­erer, a hos­pi­tal orderly, a bar­man, and a fundraiser. Since then, Gareth has been arrested dressed as Ronald McDon­ald, learnt to climb build­ings and unfurled a protest ban­ner in Tianan­men Square in Beijing.

Yes boys and girls - your hard earned dollars is now paying minimum wage charlie 100k+ for being a MP.

[steve_t]

Man, sounds like he's got staying power in his employment:blink:
Can I get paid $100k+ if I pretend to care about the environment? Stupid thing is that I probably care about it more than that guy. He's just an activist in the right place at the right time I guess

[mashman]

Yeah he looks like a keeper for sure... at least he has goals... well that's all you need to succeed in this world apparantly!!!

[imdying]

paying minimum wage charlieI've more respect for that than I do 'benefit bludger'. At least he's been out and about in the world, done some things, worked for a living etc.

[steve_t]

I've more respect for that than I do 'benefit bludger'. At least he's been out and about in the world, done some things, worked for a living etc.

That's true. It'd be pretty crazy if it was "35 year old guy who has been on the unemployment benefit for 17 years is new Green Party MP"

[Tank]

Indeed - its better to have someone who has worked than a life long dole bludger.

However - Hes still not the kind of person you want in parliment - Seriousley - how the fuck is he going to have any reasonable impact - or even contribute to debate or policy? One of the areas he wants to focus on is transport - WTF?

Hopefully this is the kind of shit that will get the greens under the 5% mark!

[avgas]

Sounds like that young man has achieved a lot in his short life. So much so I don't think he will ever amount to more. So I think he should just end it all now.

Maybe strap some explosives to a vest, walk into the beehive and tell everyone they are fascist pigs. Go out on a bang.
I wouldn't mind even paying him to do it.

[red mermaid]

If you do some research you will that most, if not all, of the so called green MP's are now communists.

[steve_t]

One of the areas he wants to focus on is transport - WTF?



I get it now. He's a "car enthusiast" trying to make changes for himself and his mates from the inside :laugh::laugh:

[Tank]

If you do some research you will that most, if not all, of the so called green MP's are now communists.

Sad but True. They were a part that 'could have been' and 'could have done good things for NZ' - but now they are so hard left it is shocking. Still Labour is clinging to them like mad because they are the only party that will deal with 'em.

So much for a viable opposition.

[Tank]

I get it now. He's a "car enthusiast" trying to make changes for himself and his mates from the inside :laugh::laugh:

Reformed - Now wants roads etc banned to get rid of the evils of cars, bikes and roads. Its public transport for the ordanary man in their utopia.

[yungatart]

I've been looking at changing jobs/career paths to increase my income....I reckon I should be an MP too....I've got more skills/life experience than Gareth...I could be on to a winner here....

[red mermaid]

Ok, so learn to be a dickhead loser and sing the red flag, and you will be in!

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3271914/Meet-the-Green-Partys-new-MP


I just like the title "Who's this clown"

I say give him a go see what he comes up with. He might not be the munter you all think. And its not like he is going to be anywhere near influencing any policy is he?

[98tls]

Whatever he is hes now earning...well being paid $100k,good on him i say theres not a politician worth votiing for anyway so what difference is another drop kick going to make.

[The Pastor]

Today Ms Fitzsimons said if she were to offer him any advice it would be to prioritise.

"Don't let yourself get so bogged down in the detail that you never get home at night."

Mr Hughes said that won't be a problem.

[SPman]

And he is worse than....Brownlee?.....Key?.....Hide?....Nick Smith?.....Tolley?....Joyce?.....??? At least he is young and idealistic! God save us from the fat old white men in suits!

[MSTRS]

I've been looking at changing jobs/career paths to increase my income....I reckon I should be an MP too....I've got more skills/life experience than Gareth...I could be on to a winner here....

Blue, Red, Green, Black/Red are all taken....

[98tls]

Blue, Red, Green, Black/Red are all taken.... Go blonde then,would get my vote and couldnt be any dumber than those already there.

[peasea]

There goes the Green Party and good fucking riddance!

[JimO]

i see nandori tandori cut off his dreds

[peasea]

i see nandori tandori cut off his dreds

Pity it wasn't his head.

[Tank]

And he is worse than....Brownlee?.....Key?.....Hide?....Nick Smith?.....Tolley?....Joyce?.....???

Well yes. They are educated smart people - regardless if you like their politics.

This fucker list working in a fish and chip shop and getting arrested dressed as a clown in his CV. I sure know who I would want looking after the country.

[mashman]

Well yes. They are educated smart people - regardless if you like their politics.

This fucker list working in a fish and chip shop and getting arrested dressed as a clown in his CV. I sure know who I would want looking after the country.

If it means we get a dress like Ronald Macdonald and commit a crime day, fuckit, i'm with the greenies!!! could be fun

[SPman]

Well yes. They are educated smart people - regardless if you like their politics.

This fucker list working in a fish and chip shop and getting arrested dressed as a clown in his CV. I sure know who I would want looking after the country.
Educated? Smart?
You Jest, surely

[Hitcher]

At least becoming a Member of Parliament means that our newest MP won't have to bludge off his wife any more as he advances his career as a professional wanker, sorry I mean activist.

The only reason guys like this become vegetarians and tag buildings is to get laid by women with unshaved legs. To each their own, I guess.

The Greens are now ostensibly fucked as a political force. With the departure of Rod Donald and now Jeanette Fitzsimons they are now devoid of political nous and the ability to effectively play the Wellington game. Democracy isn't about whingeing and whining about decisions made by the majority of citizens' representatives. Gareth et al could always chain themselves to a fence somewhere.

[Tank]

Educated? Smart?
You Jest, surely

You obviously know better and are far more successful than them.

[Fatt Max]

I've always wanted to work in a fish and chip store........he's a lucky cunt and no mistake

[Mikkel]

Holy shit batman, talk about jumping to unfounded conclusions. I mean, do any of you guys know this fella? No no, don't let me stop you, let's have a good old lynching.

If he's an honest bloke with just a touch of idealism left in him then he'll be a better MP than any highly educate, albeit corrupt and power hungry, politician. So what if he's worked in a fish & chips shop. If the greens decide they'll have him, they'll have based that decision on something - and unless you vote green to begin with your opinion on the matter is irrelevant.


However - Hes still not the kind of person you want in parliment - Seriousley - how the fuck is he going to have any reasonable impact - or even contribute to debate or policy? One of the areas he wants to focus on is transport - WTF?

Well, not having an impact isn't always a bad thing. Or would you prefer another Dr. Smith?
Transport is valid area to focus upon in NZ, public transportation does leave a lot to be desired.

[EJK]

Just imagine Skidmark being an MP

[Headbanger]

Holy shit batman, talk about jumping to unfounded conclusions. I mean, do any of you guys know this fella? No no, don't let me stop you, let's have a good old lynching.
.

Count me in.:shifty:

He looks like a smug fuckwit Aucklander.

[Pixie]

That's true. It'd be pretty crazy if it was "35 year old guy who has been on the unemployment benefit for 17 years is new Green Party MP"

Most of the "academics" in the Liarbour and Green parties fall into that classification,don't they?

[Swoop]

I notice that someone has had to get a haircut and a real fucking job!

[Ronin]

I notice that someone has had to get a haircut and a real fucking job!

He sits on his butt doing nothing, not really that much of a career change now is it?

[Ronin]

Holy shit batman, talk about jumping to unfounded conclusions. I mean, do any of you guys know this fella? No no, don't let me stop you, let's have a good old lynching.

If he's an honest bloke with just a touch of idealism left in him then he'll be a better MP than any highly educate, albeit corrupt and power hungry, politician. So what if he's worked in a fish & chips shop. If the greens decide they'll have him, they'll have based that decision on something - and unless you vote green to begin with your opinion on the matter is irrelevant.



Well, not having an impact isn't always a bad thing. Or would you prefer another Dr. Smith?
Transport is valid area to focus upon in NZ, public transportation does leave a lot to be desired.

Isn't that at the end of the day what democracy is? By casting a vote you are casting your judgment upon those that you don't vote for.

Look at it another way. If Ronald there rocked up to your place of business with that CV, would you give him a job? I sure as hell wouldn't

[Swoop]

He sits on his butt doing nothing, not really that much of a caree change now is it?
Just that he can say he is "retired"...

On the taxpayers expense. Oh yay.:ar15:

[Mikkel]

Isn't that at the end of the day what democracy is? By casting a vote you are casting your judgment upon those that you don't vote for.

You got it all backwards. Your vote represents a vote of confidence in the candidate of your choosing. Confidence that the candidate will competently represent and further your personal areas of interest.
The vote does not signify a lack of confidence in all other candidates.


Look at it another way. If Ronald there rocked up to your place of business with that CV, would you give him a job? I sure as hell wouldn't

I haven't seen his CV. If he was the best man for the job in question I couldn't care less if he had a fetish for dressing up like Ronald McDonald or whatever other irrelevant factoids that could be uncovered.

[SPman]

He sits on his butt doing nothing, not really that much of a career change now is it? Another example of knowing nothing about that which you flip off negative remarks at!

[steve_t]

He sits on his butt doing nothing, not really that much of a career change now is it?

Maybe he's just smarter than the others. Get in, get out, continue getting half price air fares for the rest of your life :niceone: Are there any other ongoing perks once you're out?

[mashman]

Maybe he's just smarter than the others. Get in, get out, continue getting half price air fares for the rest of your life :niceone: Are there any other ongoing perks once you're out?

yup, you don't have to work in politics again!

[Pussy]

You buggers should get me in as a green MP.
The basis of my campaign is:
2,4,5-T will be re-introduced... in fact it will be compulsory!

You're welcome!

[Ronin]

Another example of knowing nothing about that which you flip off negative remarks at!

I generaly know at least something of the things that I flip off negative remarks about. Of course I am always willing to know more of the things that I flip off negative remarks about. Feel free to teach oh great and wise one.

[Deano]

You got it all backwards. Your vote represents a vote of confidence in the candidate of your choosing. Confidence that the candidate will competently represent and further your personal areas of interest.
The vote does not signify a lack of confidence in all other candidates.

Do you think National were voted in because of confidence in their candidates and their policies, or because people were sick of Labour ?

NZ generally votes Govt's out, not in.

[Skyryder]

Indeed - its better to have someone who has worked than a life long dole bludger.

However - Hes still not the kind of person you want in parliment - Seriousley - how the fuck is he going to have any reasonable impact - or even contribute to debate or policy? One of the areas he wants to focus on is transport - WTF?

Hopefully this is the kind of shit that will get the greens under the 5% mark!

O course Bill (not a good look) English and that lying cunt Key are prime examples MP repectibility. I don't know didluy squat about this guy and I do not have a lot of time for Green politics but if I remember much the same was said about Tanzos and he got more respect than Key ande Englishs together. Still it's bash a greenie week so if it rocks ya boat.

Skyryder

[Skyryder]

Do you think National were voted in because of confidence in their candidates and their policies, or because people were sick of Labour ?

NZ generally votes Govt's out, not in.


Ya right. It's a bit like chess. Ya never win it's the other guy who 'loses.'

[puddytat]

The Greens are now ostensibly fucked as a political force. With the departure of Rod Donald and now Jeanette Fitzsimons they are now devoid of political nous and the ability to effectively play the Wellington game. .

They'll still get way more votes than either Act,or Peter Dunns outfit....

[shrub]

They'll still get way more votes than either Act,or Peter Dunns outfit....

And their policies will still make more sense than any of the other minor parties, they will still avoid playing silly games, will still stick to their core ideology, will continue to avoid getting pinged for corruption and ripping off the taxpayers etc and will still be hated more than any other party. Why? I think because they challenge the great unwashed too much.

[shrub]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3271914/Meet-the-Green-Partys-new-MP


I just like the title "Who's this clown"

I say give him a go see what he comes up with. He might not be the munter you all think. And its not like he is going to be anywhere near influencing any policy is he?

I agree, it seems that he has values and principles, and is willing to stick his neck out for what he believes - is that a bad thing in a politician? Or would the great unwashedrather have someone like Donna Awatere-Huata? Or maybe Bob Clarkson?

[mashman]

Do you think National were voted in because of confidence in their candidates and their policies, or because people were sick of Labour ?

NZ generally votes Govt's out, not in.

To be honest, i've never really thought of it that way. But from conversations with friends and work mates, this seems to have been a don't vote for the other guy vote, the rest must be much better... i've seen it happen elsewhere before... damned if you do, damned whatever you do!

[howdamnhard]

Yes boys and girls - your hard earned dollars is now paying minimum wage charlie 100k+ for being a MP.

Wow , he is living the American dream. Hang on this is NZ.
Where do I sign up.

[Mikkel]

Do you think National were voted in because of confidence in their candidates and their policies, or because people were sick of Labour ?

NZ generally votes Govt's out, not in.

I suppose that could, to some extent, explain the current state of affairs.

[bikemike]

I agree, it seems that he has values and principles, and is willing to stick his neck out for what he believes - is that a bad thing in a politician? Or would the great unwashedrather have someone like Donna Awatere-Huata? Or maybe Bob Clarkson?

This is true.
It is also 'true' that with Jeanette Fitzsimons and Rod Donald away, the Greens have more work to do to regain the level of mana they had, for those that gave them quiet respect, and even perhaps a quiet vote on the side. Ardent supporters won't be affected, but outsiders might take more convincing now and that is a risk the Greens will surely aware of.

[Ronin]

I suppose that could, to some extent, explain the current state of affairs.

Not to mention the previous states of affairs.

[scissorhands]

I vote Green. Not because I think they can run a country in this fucked up corporate world, they cant.

However, sustainability rather than acting like a drunken sailor spending accumulated wages seems a more edifying way to live

[ynot slow]

I notice that someone has had to get a haircut and a real fucking job!

Funny thing why don't our MP's drug tested?Most other occupations have legislation forced on them so they can do random testing,so why not our MPs afterall they voted it in.

[shrub]

This is true.
It is also 'true' that with Jeanette Fitzsimons and Rod Donald away, the Greens have more work to do to regain the level of mana they had, for those that gave them quiet respect, and even perhaps a quiet vote on the side. Ardent supporters won't be affected, but outsiders might take more convincing now and that is a risk the Greens will surely aware of.

I have read the policies of every significant party (I'm a political science nerd) and I like a lot of what the Greens stand for. They don't have any pretensions of running the country and apart from in core areas (the environment, social justice etc), their policies are simply statements of the influence they would like to exert in the house and during the select committee process. I voted for them in the last election, and can't see that changing in 2011, but as a marketer I can't see the logic in giving Gareth Hughes the job. He is (from all accounts) a very intelligent and hard working young man, but his background is not going to win many new supporters. If I was the Greens PR person I would NOT have given as much emphasis to his being arrested or working as a minimum wage employee - or maybe focussed on something a little more mainstream.

BTW, has anyone remembered that the Greens have been very, very supportive of our protests against the ACC levies, and does anyone know that Green MP David Clendon is a long term biker (rides an SV1000 S, before that a GSXR1100). I think the "Fucken Greenies" have more in common with us, and are better friends than any of the grey parties.

[shrub]

Funny thing why don't our MP's drug tested?Most other occupations have legislation forced on them so they can do random testing,so why not our MPs afterall they voted it in.

Might catch the grey parties out - I know for a fact that all the current sitting Green MPs are completely drug free, but it wouldn't surprise me if some the other Pollies were fond of a toke or two after a big night at Bellamies.

[Okey Dokey]

You buggers should get me in as a green MP.
The basis of my campaign is:
2,4,5-T will be re-introduced... in fact it will be compulsory!

You're welcome!

I think that would make you an ORANGE MP, wouldn't it?

[Ronin]

Might catch the grey parties out - I know for a fact that all the current sitting Green MPs are completely drug free, but it wouldn't surprise me if some the other Pollies were fond of a toke or two after a big night at Bellamies.

Pretty bold statement unless you are with them 27/7

[shrub]

Pretty bold statment unless you are with them 27/7

I understand that it's internal Green party policy for all MPs to be drug free, and having met a few of them, they are definitely straight and certainly not pissheads. Pity about the stereotypes, hey? That is probably the worst thing about David Clendon riding a high performance bike like an SV1000S - surely a Green should ride an electric scooter and no more?

Maybe the stereotypes are wrong?

[Ronin]

I understand that it's internal Green party policy for all MPs to be drug free, and having met a few of them, they are definitely straight and certainly not pissheads.

Policy is one thing. Reality is another. Human nature being what it is I find it difficult to believe that as a group, the Greens are any different when it comes to bending rules when it suits them.

What you can safely claim is that they were straight and not pissed when you met them... Probably.

[shrub]

Policy is one thing. Reality is another. Human nature being what it is I find it difficult to believe that as a group, the Greens are any different when it comes to bending rules when it suits them.

I think you underestimate their committment to their jobs. They made a collective decision to go drug free and I see no reason not to believe that they are following that commitment as they are all intelligent, focussed and hard working men and women.

But it goes against the stereotypes, and that's a bummer. I know a few stereotypes about bikers - do they apply to you?

[Ronin]

I think you underestimate their commitment to their jobs. They made a collective decision to go drug free and I see no reason not to believe that they are following that commitment as they are all intelligent, focussed and hard working men and women.

I am (in this case) not attacking them or their commitment. What I am saying is that humans are far from perfect and statistically speaking there is a good chance that no matter what they have said publicly, some of them will not Honor that commitment.


But it goes against the stereotypes, and that's a bummer. I know a few stereotypes about bikers - do they apply to you?

This has nothing to do with them being Green and everything to do with them being human. We could have the same argument about the nats, labour et al.

Not at all. I wave to Harley riders.

[shrub]

I am (in this case) not attacking them or their commitment. What I am saying is that humans are far from perfect and statistically speaking there is a good chance that no matter what they have said publicly, some of them will not Honor that commitment.

This has nothing to do with them being Green and everything to do with them being human. We could have the same argument about the nats, labour et al.

Not at all. I wave to Harley riders.

So do I - I think it confuses them.

I agree, it is possible that they could go against their word, but having met most of the Green MPs I was impressed at their integrity and committment to standing by their principles, and they didn't strike me as people who would smoke (BTW I enjoy the herb on occassions). I could have been wrong, but it would seem that the probability of Green MPs being marijuana users is very low.

And the reason we don't have the same argument about Labour and National is because there isn't a stereotype about them being druggies and stoners - something that came from Nandor Tacoz being in parliament and having the honesty to admit he used cannabis as part of his religion. Personally I prefer a religion that involves burning petrol to one that involves burning cannabis, but it's a free world.

[scissorhands]

I would vote for stoners, rather than money grubbing businessmen...

Who has your best interest at heart?

[Spyke]

I've been looking at changing jobs/career paths to increase my income....I reckon I should be an MP too....I've got more skills/life experience than Gareth...I could be on to a winner here....

Sorry yungatart we can't justify employing a person that is to highly skilled for the job!