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Hitcher
28th January 2010, 20:49
About bloody time too!

http://www.1023.org.uk/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0

slofox
28th January 2010, 21:17
Yeh but but but...suppose someone had a headache and they said "aspirin works" you'd give them aspirin, right?

So when they have a problem and they say "nothing works" that's what you give them - nothing. And like they said, it works...:shutup:

or something... :innocent:

Mikkel
28th January 2010, 21:56
I suppose the homeopathy product sellers are happy though - they've sold a lot of stuff in order for that many people to "OD" on it.

Big Dave
28th January 2010, 22:02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4cjDUrvqYU

peasea
29th January 2010, 06:22
About bloody time too!

http://www.1023.org.uk/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0

I laughed so hard I banged my head on the desk, which is an absolute bugger coz I'm out of Arnica.

Usarka
29th January 2010, 07:21
Just the thought of this OD happening is making me feel better.

steve_t
29th January 2010, 07:44
You have to drink a lot of water to OD. Of course their water has touched other water which has touch other water that has absorbed healing energy from the leaves of plants. This touching of water molecules imparts healing energy due to water having a long memory. :eek5:
I remember a brilliant quote from someone high up in homeopathy - "a double blind randomised controlled trial is not a valid way to test if homeopathy works" :laugh::laugh::laugh:

MisterD
29th January 2010, 08:36
Merseyside Skeptics Society eh? Maybe they should have started with something easy - like convincing one half of their city that the team they support is no longer the greatest in Europe...

Slyer
29th January 2010, 08:48
It is impressive the number of people who swear by this bullshit...
Some natural remedies do work but those are NOT homeopathy, which by definition does not work...

mashman
29th January 2010, 08:55
Merseyside Skeptics Society eh? Maybe they should have started with something easy - like convincing one half of their city that the team they support is no longer the greatest in Europe...

MON THE REDS!!!!! eh eh eh eh, look like, no need for bein all sarky like... bloody toffees!!! :yes:

but very fair point ha ha

MisterD
29th January 2010, 09:37
MON THE REDS!!!!! eh eh eh eh, look like, no need for bein all sarky like... bloody toffees!!! :yes:

but very fair point ha ha

Don't call me a toffee...the best team on Merseyside plays in white...

mashman
29th January 2010, 09:47
ha ha ha... so another squirellite then... my cousin was a Super Whites fan for many years... always loved it when he came to our place... bus to Prenton Park... stack of coins to twat against the barriers or throw at the ref...

Slyer
29th January 2010, 10:41
Get lost you off topic bastards.

Edbear
29th January 2010, 11:48
Ahhh, Naturopaths and Homeopathy... Where do I begin..?

Being told your daughter has Leukemia and has been sexually abused as a child... Neither of which was true of course... That she needed high doses of iron because she was anaemic disputing the acutal blood test that showed normal iron levels and the opinion of the Dr. that extra iron would be harmful...

Being told you had a hernia and had to force your fingers up under your ribcage to pull your stomach down out of the hernia when in fact you had a rotten gall bladder to the point the operating surgeon said you were dying and he only just got to you in time...

Shall I go on..?

steve_t
29th January 2010, 11:59
Ahhh, Naturopaths and Homeopathy... Where do I begin..?

Being told your daughter has Leukemia and has been sexually abused as a child... Neither of which was true of course... That she needed high doses of iron because she was anaemic disputing the acutal blood test that showed normal iron levels and the opinion of the Dr. that extra iron would be harmful...

Being told you had a hernia and had to force your fingers up under your ribcage to pull your stomach down out of the hernia when in fact you had a rotten gall bladder to the point the operating surgeon said you were dying and he only just got to you in time...

Shall I go on..?

My sister's mate got told if she held some coloured string for 4 hours a day at $60 a session, she would be cured of her cancer. She did it and after a few months they actually proclaimed her to be cancer-free even though the doctors had scans showing the spread. Not surprisingly, she passed away a few months later. I think this sort of thing is disgusting and preying upon those that are desperate :(

Edbear
29th January 2010, 12:11
My sister's mate got told if she held some coloured string for 4 hours a day at $60 a session, she would be cured of her cancer. She did it and after a few months they actually proclaimed her to be cancer-free even though the doctors had scans showing the spread. Not surprisingly, she passed away a few months later. I think this sort of thing is disgusting and preying upon those that are desperate :(

These sorts should be held to account.

When I was in a wheelchair I was told I'd be out of it in four visits... 10 visits and hundreds of dollars later I was worse and quit.

steve_t
25th March 2011, 18:46
Turn over to Prime right now. Talking about Homeopathy :shutup:

DMNTD
25th March 2011, 18:54
Turn over to Prime right now. Talking about Homeopathy :shutup:

Ummm....God save us, instead :facepalm:

Hitcher
25th March 2011, 21:22
Turn over to Prime right now. Talking about Homeopathy :shutup:

Did they say it was an expensive way of selling distilled water?

steve_t
25th March 2011, 21:30
Did they say it was an expensive way of selling distilled water?

Yeah, they said the typical dilution factor is 100,000:1. The homeopathy guy said modern science had a long way to go to catch up with homeopathy since the amount of stuff in the water was so miniscule and modern technology is unable to detect it :facepalm:

blackdog
25th March 2011, 21:48
I have found that for hypochondriacs, homeopathy works surprisingly well. It is called the placebo effect. So well in fact that even your GP will use it from time to time.

Not that I am playing down the seriousness of claimed efficacy for actual illnesses.

Hitcher
25th March 2011, 21:53
Given that it can work so well, I'm surprised that somebody hasn't invented a double-strength placebo.

scissorhands
25th March 2011, 23:32
I spent $2k at a Homoeopath, over a 2 year period. He was also a GP (before he was struck off) and his expertise is with removing poisons and sprays.

I began to get nervous when he started injecting me in the ankles with gonorrhoea.

But by then I was a bit softened up from being placed for an hour in an ex air force decompression chamber on an oxygen mask with an intravenous drip of 15,000mg of vitamin C....

I must admit, my constitutional health has improved markedly. Probably the best $2k I have spent. Cellular medicine I think its called. Many farmers, neighbours and spray victims go to this guy.

If you understand the principle of a vaccine, how can an understanding of homoeopathy not logically follow?:shit:

Blackshear
26th March 2011, 14:18
I have found that for hypochondriacs, homeopathy works surprisingly well. It is called the placebo effect. So well in fact that even your GP will use it from time to time.

Not that I am playing down the seriousness of claimed efficacy for actual illnesses.

Most notably depression.
Figure I should get some help, instead get snobbed off with sugar pills.

No thanks.

James Deuce
26th March 2011, 14:23
Panadol "Rapid" is bullshit too. Placebo effect for extra cash.

It's not just Homeopathy talking out of its arse.

Blackshear
26th March 2011, 14:25
Panadol "Rapid" is bullshit too. Placebo effect for extra cash.

It's not just Homeopathy talking out of its arse.

But caffeine makes your heart beat faster, surely that means it's making you more healthy?

steve_t
26th March 2011, 14:28
Panadol "Rapid" is bullshit too. Placebo effect for extra cash.

It's not just Homeopathy talking out of its arse.

They said multiple studies show up to 30% increased pain relief with brand name meds vs generic - even when the pills were the same pills but in a different bottle. They suggested that the placebo effect additional to the actual pain relief is worth paying the extra $$ for :corn:

steve_t
26th March 2011, 14:36
I spent $2k at a Homoeopath, over a 2 year period. He was also a GP (before he was struck off) and his expertise is with removing poisons and sprays.

I began to get nervous when he started injecting me in the ankles with gonorrhoea.

But by then I was a bit softened up from being placed for an hour in an ex air force decompression chamber on an oxygen mask with an intravenous drip of 15,000mg of vitamin C....

I must admit, my constitutional health has improved markedly. Probably the best $2k I have spent. Cellular medicine I think its called. Many farmers, neighbours and spray victims go to this guy.

If you understand the principle of a vaccine, how can an understanding of homoeopathy not logically follow?:shit:

How do the principles between vaccination and homeopathy relate? Taking a small amount of a substance and making you react to it? Uh... vaccines aren't small amounts of bacteria and viruses. They are attenuated samples or parts of them. Don't you think the GP getting struck off the medical register says something? Do you know if it was for medical misconduct?
I, too, would be nervous about being injected with gonorrhea. That doesn't sound homeopathic at all.
15g of vit c IV is pretty hard out. I thought that was only experimental for people with cancer.

James Deuce
26th March 2011, 14:39
I thought that was only experimental for people with cancer.

In Mexicon. Do it here and get struck off.

stig
26th March 2011, 15:29
I came across this gem of a web page this week. (randomly while looking for redline water wetter).
http://www.detoxme.co.nz/detox_electrical.htm
While entertaining for the causal skeptic, it's written in a very careful way which suggests that the writer is intelligent enough to know that its a crock of crap.

Click next at the bottom of each page to read more wackiness. The disclaimer at the end is a nice contradiction to all that came before it.

I'm a little pissed that people are allowed to prey on others and sell crap like this and avoid criminal fraud charges.

Usarka
26th March 2011, 15:30
It's raining and I've just caught cancer from homeopathic radiation coming from Japan!!!!

steve_t
26th March 2011, 15:40
I came across this gem of a web page this week. (randomly while looking for redline water wetter).
http://www.detoxme.co.nz/detox_electrical.htm
While entertaining for the causal skeptic, it's written in a very careful way which suggests that the writer is intelligent enough to know that its a crock of crap.

Click next at the bottom of each page to read more wackiness. The disclaimer at the end is a nice contradiction to all that came before it.

I'm a little pissed that people are allowed to prey on others and sell crap like this and avoid criminal fraud charges.

More colour therapy!!! :facepalm:
I guess there's people who still believe that those silicon wrist bands with holograms on them makes them faster, stronger, and more flexible, in spite of the whole Australian legal thing :blink::facepalm:

slofox
26th March 2011, 18:48
But caffeine makes your heart beat faster, surely that means it's making you more healthy?

And alcomohol makes you relax - completely if you have enough of it. Last time I tried it I relaxed so much I found myself fully relaxed in the gutter at the side of the road...next morning. Surely that degree of relaxation must be good for you too?

Blackshear
26th March 2011, 19:18
And alcomohol makes you relax - completely if you have enough of it. Last time I tried it I relaxed so much I found myself fully relaxed in the gutter at the side of the road...next morning. Surely that degree of relaxation must be good for you too?

Yeah I've lost photo ID, eftpos, keys and half an ipod that way.
Alcohol does other things, too.

At least you were relaxed? Ha ha ha. Cold?

pete376403
26th March 2011, 20:28
And alcomohol makes you relax - completely if you have enough of it. Last time I tried it I relaxed so much I found myself fully relaxed in the gutter at the side of the road...next morning. Surely that degree of relaxation must be good for you too?

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The Stranger
26th March 2011, 20:55
I came across this gem of a web page this week. (randomly while looking for redline water wetter).


BNT Automotive.

stig
26th March 2011, 22:27
BNT Automotive.

yeah, found it ok.
couldn't find any references to double blind tests for it,
but then again, I don't plan on drinking it.

Hitcher
27th March 2011, 16:09
Di-hydrogen oxide is evil lethal stuff. There should be laws banning it.

Ronin
27th March 2011, 17:37
Di-hydrogen oxide is evil lethal stuff. There should be laws banning it.

Meh. Water off a ducks back.

Banditbandit
28th March 2011, 15:27
If you understand the principle of a vaccine, how can an understanding of homoeopathy not logically follow?:shit:

Vaccine has (usually) dead virus cells which we then react to and build up an immunity to the virus ...

Homoeopathy uses distilled water which has touched other water - which possibly has had other water in it which once contact with water that might have contained bits of water which once came in contact with water which contained chemicals ... None left in the actual water you take.

BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

Banditbandit
28th March 2011, 15:28
But caffeine makes your heart beat faster, surely that means it's making you more healthy?

It's also been proven that smoking delays the onset of Alzhemiers disease - don't see anyone promoting the health benefits of smoking either ..

Banditbandit
28th March 2011, 15:36
More colour therapy!!! :facepalm:
I guess there's people who still believe that those silicon wrist bands with holograms on them makes them faster, stronger, and more flexible, in spite of the whole Australian legal thing :blink::facepalm:

Shit ... if that's what silicon wristbands do - what do silicone tits do?

pzkpfw
28th March 2011, 15:44
Shit ... if that's what silicon wristbands do - what do silicone tits do?

Same thing as caffeine.

schrodingers cat
28th March 2011, 15:55
My arse hurts and I've been nowhere near a Honda. Do you think Homeopathy would be the cause?


Go to Google.co.nz

Type or paste in
how does homeopathy work

(Don't click on the suggestion, insert it manually)

Click 'I feel lucky'

Ha ha

steve_t
28th March 2011, 15:58
My arse hurts and I've been nowhere near a Honda. Do you think Homeopathy would be the cause?



U might be able to try tincture of arnica as a suppository :shit:



Go to Google.co.nz

Type or paste in
how does homeopathy work

(Don't click on the suggestion, insert it manually)

Click 'I feel lucky'

Ha ha

:laugh: Awesome :yes:

Banditbandit
28th March 2011, 16:18
Di-hydrogen oxide is evil lethal stuff. There should be laws banning it.

I dilute mine - take 2 parts of di-hydrogen oxide and mix with ethyl hydrate. Add a little di-hydrogen oxide which has been solidified by lowering its temperature below 32 degree farhenheit, then crushed.

Place beaker in an agitator and shake vigorously for three minutes.

Consume.

Of course, for the homeopathic option, add one drop of ehtyl hydrate to 99 drops of di-hydrogen oxide, shake for a week. Take one drop of the resulting solution, add to 99 drops of pure di-hydrogen oxide, shake for a week, and add one drop of the resulting solution to 99 drops of di - what's the fucken point? It's now useless ...

Edbear
28th March 2011, 16:19
Same thing as caffeine.

Perk you up..?

Banditbandit
28th March 2011, 16:19
Perk you up..?

Make you bounce up and down in excitement?