James Deuce most unfortunate event!

[James Deuce]

This is Heather here just to let you all know that Jim had a fairly serious bike accident on Sunday and will be out of action for some time. He was riding along route 52 in Alfredton when a sheep jumped out of the grass on the side of the road and hit the side of the bike causing him to fall off on a grand scale. He was air lifted to Palmerston North Hospital with lots of broken ribs and a nasty head injury. He has just been discharged but won't be up to much for quite a while. If you want some more details you can ring or text me on 0272021741.

[Nasty]

Cheers for the info Heather ...

James do what the woman says ... heal well ... and take time to make sure you are all better!

[Str8 Jacket]

Oh no, that's horrible!! I have a shite load of bike mags and the likes that I can bring around if he needs....

[Mully]

Well, shitballs.

Heal up well, mate.

[Pwalo]

Bugger. Get well soon old chum. I guess you'll give the insurance company something different to look at!

[Edbear]

As if errant car drivers weren't enough! :blink:

Same thing happened to Toaster! Same result and now he rides a Busa! :shifty:

Sorry to hear! All the best with the healing, and make sure you get back at those unsympathetic people who insist on making you laugh when it hurts to even breathe! :yes:

[slofox]

Hey - all the best from me too. Those friggin sheep can be a problem, huh?

Take care JD.

[HenryDorsetCase]

That sucks. Heal well. Hope you at least got a couple of racks of lamb and some legs and shoulders to roast. mmmmm laaaaaamb.

[86GSXR]

Ahhhh shit. I can relate to that, ribs hurt like hell and I'd imagine the head isn't feeling too great either! Heal well Jim!

[steve_t]

Get well soon Jim2!

[StoneY]

JD Mate, my prayers and thoughts are for you and yours right now my man, take it easy and look after yaself.

Parliament aint gonna be the same on the 16th without our official journo.

Peace

[pritch]

James, sorry to read this news. Sorry about you, and about the new bike.

We're all familiar with the concept that new leathers increase the pull of gravity. Similarly I'm still being reeeeeal careful 'cause I just fitted new CRG levers. A whole new bike though, that'd be downright scary...

Not many upsides to this, but at least you'll have time listen to some good music.

[mashman]

Oh fook. Heel quick man.

[Ocean1]

Ah bollocks.

*Sigh*

Pass the mint sauce.

[onearmedbandit]

Take it easy Jim, heal up quickly.

[Headbanger]

Fuck.



.....

[chanceyy]

ouch .. heal quick Jim .. and thanks Heather :hug:

[Big Dave]

Thank you for letting us know.

Wish him all the best from the Kiwirider crew.

[Slyer]

JD Mate, my prayers and thoughts are for you
I thought you didn't swing that way. ;)
Friggin' weresheep.

[yungatart]

Arse biscuit! Rest heaps, and heal well Jim...do what Heather says..she knows her stuff!
I guess that new bike ain't quite so gorgeous anymore either.
Lots of love from all intheTarty/Mstrs family...
Heather, take it easy, sweetie...let me know if there is anything we can do...

[Marknz]

Oh dear, that's a crap result.

All the best to Jim for a steady recovery, and to Heather who will no doubt need a lot of patience in the coming weeks.

Mark

[Usarka]

Arse biscuit indeed.

Best wishes from this quarter. Definitely rest up JDeuce, you know how it goes with head knocks.........

[merv]

Sorry to hear this. Get well soon Jim.

[NZsarge]

Please Heather pass on the best wishes of all the Palmerston North crew myself included (even thought i'm not from there). I hope he mends quickly and mends well. I've been on the receiving end of the sheep out of the long grass trick myself although it was as bad as Jim's off by the sound of things, all the best to you guys anyway.

[The Baron]

Sorry to hear this. We were on that road Sunday morning.
Its a nice bike road.
Get well soon.

[duckonin]

Heal up fast JD..The road waits !!

[vifferman]

What horrible shitty news! We are most unamused. :(
I hope you heal up fast and well, Dr Deuce. All the best to you too, Mrs Dr Deuce.

[Mully]

Is there any truth to the rumour that Mr Deuce was in fact pillioning the sheep?

[Pascal]

Fuck, sorry to hear that. Glad to hear James is out and healing up.

[Ronin]

Is there any truth to the rumour that Mr Deuce was in fact pillioning the sheep?

Must spread rep etc!

[Ronin]

Not good news at all.

Heal up well Mr Deuce.

One is pulling for you.

So to speak.

[Krayy]

Arse. Normally I'd come up with a witty jibe, like why didn't Jim do this when he was test riding it, not after he'd bought the damn thing (bummer, cos I was hoping to blag a ride too).

Hope eveything goes well with Jim's recovery, although he will owe you a few months of housework after he's back on his feet.

Anything you need, call and I'll do my best to get it done. Even if I need to ride to Wellywood.

[pzkpfw]

Don't be shy about posting requests for help...

[p.dath]

I hope you return to health soon. I can hardly believe it!

[YellowDog]

You can take every precaution to dodge those stray bullets BUT if one has you name on it, it's gonna get you!

It's fairly reasonable to say that this one was not pilot error.

Please give him our best wishes for a speedy recovery.

[Toaster]

As if errant car drivers weren't enough! :blink:

Same thing happened to Toaster! Same result and now he rides a Busa! :shifty:

Sorry to hear! All the best with the healing, and make sure you get back at those unsympathetic people who insist on making you laugh when it hurts to even breathe! :yes:

Did it???? I cant remember anything still.

But seriously, all the best for healing. Make sure you give that head injury all the care it needs. All the best mate. I hope you got a freezer full of tender lamb for your troubles.

[Toaster]

This is Heather here just to let you all know that Jim had a fairly serious bike accident on Sunday and will be out of action for some time. He was riding along route 52 in Alfredton when a sheep jumped out of the grass on the side of the road and hit the side of the bike causing him to fall off on a grand scale. He was air lifted to Palmerston North Hospital with lots of broken ribs and a nasty head injury. He has just been discharged but won't be up to much for quite a while. If you want some more details you can ring or text me on 0272021741.

Jim, Get well soon and look after that head. Did the exact same thing myself back in 2008. Really feel for you at this time.

Cam.

[madmal64]

Heal well Mr D. Not a nice thing to hear after just coming back from a 2 day jaunt over the same stretch of road.
Glad I got to go with a ride with ya while it was all new & shiny.
Bastard sheep!

[Laxi]

that sucks jim, hope you're back on your feet soon

[Deano]

Don't be shy about posting requests for help...

You'll be lucky mate. Jim and Heather are too nice to ask for help, or even acquiesce to offers.

[yungatart]

You'll be lucky mate. Jim and Heather are too nice to ask for help, or even acquiesce to offers.

Ain't that the truth!

[Krayy]

At the risk of ruining 30 years of friendship...
193117

(If you can't laugh at a mate when he's in traction, when CAN you laugh at him? :innocent:)

[SPman]

Oh bugger!
I sympathise with your plight (what's a kangaroo but a sheep with 2 less legs...)
Glad to hear you're home - rest up - it's hard to do anything else with busted ribs!
Wallow in the sympathy............

Perhaps the sheep was related to this one....
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[Okey Dokey]

Heather, thanks for letting us know. I hope you and he receive all the support you need in the weeks to come. My man had a similar injury and it just takes time for a head to mend. He is such a clever witty guy that he will be missed around here, but it is much more important that he heals well than entertains us. I'll be thinking of you and wish jamesdeuce a speedy and full recovery.

[Brian d marge]

Well that was some not so nice news to wake up to

Hows the bike ?

Look on the bright side , The bash on the head might knock some sense into him , We get to make him laugh with his busted ribs !!!!

Remind me to pit a few dollars in the kitty for that helicopter that thing is a god send !

take care

Stephen

[SPman]

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[Mikkel]

[Insert a fitting number of expletives beyond my current vocabulary in this space.]

I'm so very sorry to hear that! Jim, I just hope the old noggin isn't in too bad a state - the ribs will be fine, given time and care. Although I am worrying if this will make you even more grumpy... ;)

Heal up quick mate!

[Leviticus]

Best wishes, heal well & heal soon

[imdying]

Ghey way of getting a chopper ride man... You'll get your revenge at the next BBQ though... mmmm lamb chops :yes:

[Number One]

Oh dear very sorry to hear this. Hope everything knits back together quickly and well.

[DidJit]

Heal up well, Mr Deuce.

[Clivoris]

:shit: I'm so bloody mixed about this. Gutted to hear about it and the recovery time required Jim and Heather. Stoked I'm not going to a bloody funeral. I will be in touch.

[Al]

Heal well and get plenty of rest, bud!
Fu*king sheep....!

[Blackbird]

Ahhhh crap Jim - really sorry to hear mate and thanks for letting us know Heather. Sigh.... that's what happens when you let city boys out to play in the countryside. Probably thought the sheep was a stuffed one - well, it is now presumably.:innocent:

Heal quickly pal and get a Striple with the insurance:shifty:

Geoff

[Winston001]

Is the sheep alright...........??

[Winston001]

Bloody hell Jim, head injuries are mine for the sympathy vote, trust you to jump on the bandwagon.......:gob:



Thanks for letting us know Heather, best wishes to you both, PM sent.

[Maha]

Is there any truth to the rumour that Mr Deuce was in fact pillioning the sheep?

Not sure but I understand that rubbing Lanolin on your sore areas works better than Arnica....:shifty:

Hope you have a bell by your bed Jim, rest easy and heal quick mate.

[Pussy]

Jim... wishing you a speedy recovery, my friend.
Heather... thanks for letting us know, and wishing you too the very best.
Sad to hear

[ukusa]

I wish you a speedy recovery JD. Bloody sheep!
As a form of revenge for you, I will be BBQing one of the little bastards this weekend. I challenge all others seeking revenge to do the same (if you don't own a BBQ, feel free to roast one).
They are quite tasty.

[ttnz]

best wishes for a speedy recovery

[F5 Dave]

Bad news, heal well Jim. A freind had a very similar experience in near the same area a couple of weeks back. Also wrote off his bike he'd bought a couple of weeks prior. Bloody farmers not maintaining their fences. If you need anything moving or whatever while your out of action just txt me I'm only 5min down the road.

[Kendog]

Well that's shit.
I hadn't even had a change to drool over your bike yet.

I hope you are feeling better soon Jim.

[nudemetalz]

Just got off the phone to Heather.
He's resting up okay...not up to talking at this stage so just contact her if you need any more info.
Sounds like the Buell is a write-off too.

GET WELL, JIM !!!!

[LBD]

Thats a Buggar James....Get well soon, hope the insurance dealings work out well....and now that you have had your wandering stock while driving induction...you will have the experience necessary to drive here in Urkadukastan....

[tri boy]

Bad luck JD.
Can ya still wipe ya own arse, or have you joined the "Honda appreciation society"?
Rest up, then get back in the saddle, then on a m/cycle.:scooter:

[rustic101]

Not good, not good at all, hope you heal well and fast so you can get back into it..

[Swoop]

Aww, crap!
Rest up Jim.
Thank you for telling us Heather. Must have been a terrible phonecall...

[Trudes]

:( so sad to hear this! Hope you're doing ok Jim. Please please let us know if there's anything we can do for you, a bag of pebbles, a yummy coffee, a foot rub, visitors, DVDs, whatever. Heal up mate, I'm not the praying type, so I'll have a little mosh at ACDC tomorrow night in your honor instead.

[nallac]

Bugger JD, the Buell wasn't that bad you had to go an throw it down the road,was it?.

[DingoZ]

Bugga,

Okay - 0210659671 if there is anything I can do. Anything at all.

[davebullet]

At the risk of ruining 20 years of friendship...
193117

(If you can't laugh at a mate when he's in traction, when CAN you laugh at him? :innocent:)

You bastard! Don't you know it hurts like hell to laugh with busted ribs! :laugh:

Shit - if a guy with probably 10x my experience and skill couldn't avoid a sheep, no chance I could have. Damn new bike as well. DAMN DAMN DAMN!

Best wishes for speedy recovery Jim. I also hope your insurance claim is straight forward and no hassles.

[The Everlasting]

Oh no,bloody sheep!!

Hope you recover fast!

[Quasi]

Ah Jim - this is not the sort of words we like to read attached to your name. All the best for a speedy recovery and we look forwrad to having our resident scribe casting his wordy spells upon us soon.

[riffer]

Damn. Not good mate. You're lucky to be alive, and even luckier to be married to one of the country's best nurses. I worry about those boys of yours jumping into the bed in the morning though. It's gonna hurt.

GWS.

[Mom]

Damn. Not good mate. You're lucky to be alive, and even luckier to be married to one of the country's best nurses. I worry about those boys of yours jumping into the bed in the morning though. It's gonna hurt.

GWS.

It is not going to hurt as much as when he watches the boxed set of Monty Python I have sent down for him to watch while he recovers :devil2:

I thought the grumpy bugger had gone all quiet on us this week, thank God it is only temporary.

Day at a time Jim, frustrating as that is going to be. Heather, thank you so much for letting us know that he is OK, albeit knocked around. Take care you two.

[Her_C4]

This is Heather here just to let you all know that Jim had a fairly serious bike accident on Sunday and will be out of action for some time. He was riding along route 52 in Alfredton when a sheep jumped out of the grass on the side of the road and hit the side of the bike causing him to fall off on a grand scale. He was air lifted to Palmerston North Hospital with lots of broken ribs and a nasty head injury. He has just been discharged but won't be up to much for quite a while. If you want some more details you can ring or text me on 0272021741.

Awwww hells teeth!! This isn't what I want to be reading Jim! Thanks for letting us know Heather :) Glad he has been discharged although I suspect lots of 'quiet time' will mandatory for a wee bit. Like others here, I am not far away if you need anything picked up, dropped off etc and let us know when you are up for visitors.

Wishing you a speedy and full recovery :)

[EJK]

Not a good news.

Best wishes for a quick heal JD.

[erik]

that's not good to hear.

Get well soon!

[Slyer]

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[MadDuck]

Ah what stink news. Heal well Jim!

If you want the boxed episodes of BlackAdder to go with Moms Monty Python I am happy to forward them to you.

[et al]

Heather - thanks for letting us know. I am very sorry to hear of Jim's unfortunate accident, please tell Jim that he is in my thoughts. Regards, Malcolm F.

[oldrider]

Sorry to hear of your accident Jim but nice to hear that you are on the road to recovery!
Best wishes and supporting thoughts for your family too! Pip and John oldrider.

[nighthawk]

Damn sorry to hear of your misfortune ...... I wish you all the very best on your road to recovery... Mark C

[The Stranger]

a sheep jumped out of the grass on the side of the road and hit the side of the bike causing him to fall off on a grand scale.


I note the SPCA are all quiet at times like this. Bastards.
Get well soon Jim.

[yod]

bugger....best wishes Jim

[Bikemad]

Bad luck Jim..........climb into those ACC pricks

[dogsnbikes]

Was Told on the FNR by Alistair

Sorry too hear Get well soon .......................

[RT527]

Wish I had of read this Earlier...I know people that know people at Palmy Hospital ...And I could have got you that Frontal lobotomy that You always wanted.
Heal up Fast Jim.
Make sure you get fussed over and looked after Which I`m Sure you will.

[Usarka]

They say revenge is a dish best served cold.

I say bollox to that so I stuck lamb steaks on the bbq last night and hoed into them nice and hot.

[Iggy]

Sorry to hear of your accident JD, wish you a speedy recovery and miss your witty posts already. Take care buddy.
Cheers Iggy

[sinfull]

Damn all them sheep ! They're taking over the country you know, with all them cute little lambs tails wagging out from under the ewes !
Just waiting to get big enough to ambush the rural rider, We should wage a war on em, drop the price of lamb i say and we'll eat them out of existance !

Heal well mate !!!

[Owl]

It is not going to hurt as much as when he watches the boxed set of Monty Python I have sent down for him to watch while he recovers :devil2:

Sheep?

Luxury!

I had a Mako shark jump out of the long grass and latch on to my leg. Then ride 84km home with the shark still attached, spray it in the eyes with Motul Chain Lube (Road) and beat it to death with a C spanner.



Here's to a speedy recovery Jim, so rest easy!;)

[ynot slow]

Get well soon,best of luck for the family as ribs hurt a friggin lot.
Hope the sheep is ok cause if it was fucked you'd hate to be called a sheep shagger.
Shows how bloody tough it is out there with objects,animals,on the road let alone other idiot people.Heading home last night came over the Oringi bridge and a bloody 5ltr petrol container flew off a truck,hit the ground and bounced along the road,car arriving towards it saw the container and grabbed it,otherwise would have been in the middle of the road on a curved bridge.

[Devil]

Sorry to hear. Get well soon Jim.

[Hawkeye]

Sorry to hear this Jim. I was lucky to walk away unscathed from a 85k bin on the Akas before xmas. You haven't been so lucky. Heal well mate!!

[PrincessBandit]

Hope the physical and mental scars (I assume there might be some of those) heal well. Wishing your family all the best too as they care for you.

I would haved shared my experience with the taniwha, but I reckon the mako shark story sounded heaps better.... lol

[Genestho]

Oh Jim.

That's awful, Heather - please pass on best wishes. Restup, and heal well. :)

[laserracer]

sorry to hear about the accident jim..hope you are on the mend ..ribs take awhile to mend so take it easy mate

[Bren]

Heal up mate...in bed on your back aint a good place to be whilst we have these perfect riding days...

I had a similar incedent 20 years ago with me vs a sheep...still got a bad knee all these years on...

Anyway take care..
Regards,
Bren

[martybabe]

If good wishes were medicine you'd be fully recovered by now, great sentiment from a great bunch for a top bloke.

All the best bud, heal well and quick. Martybabe and Whanau. x:grouphug:

[Eddieb]

Bugger, All the best for the next few months to both of you.

[MIXONE]

I too will miss your wit and wisdom while you are unable to post.
Heal quick.

[Ms Piggy]

Thanks for letting us know Heather - if you need help with anything please let me know. Give my best wishes to Jim for a speedy recovery. Regards, Cathy

Now I know why you didn't return my text about 'Them Crooked Vultures' last night!

[MD]

Strewth Jim, get better.

There are something like 10m sheep in NZed (Ok, I'm guessing) and you found the one with your name on it! When you are better put the sheep on the barbie.

[Fatjim]

Mate, I know that bloody sheep. Jumped out on Velox and me one day too.


Get well soon buddy.

[Roadsafe Nelson]

Sorry to hear of your accident JD!!!! wishing you all the best for a speedy recovery!!!! :sunny:

[DJSin]

I hope you are starting to feel like you are on the mend :)

[jimbo_on_travels]

I remember doing a run out to Castlepoint before Christmas and there were sheep out on the road near Alfredton then - perhaps there should be a thread or even a section discussing common danger points in NZ? All the best for OP - sucks bad when you hit the tarmac I know.

[howdamnhard]

Wow a sheep jumping out , thats pretty random. Hope he heals up quickly and completey .

[nana_mac]

Check out with insurance as the farmer can be charged for wondering stock. Stock should be all ear marked and some one has to be held responsible. Hope he is starting to heal a little Heather as we all know it will a long healing process. See you back up this way in the near future. A speedy recovery.

[GOONR]

JD, I know that you like to write but don't you think this is taking it a little too far to get new material??

Take care and get well soon fella.

[wilber]

Oh bugger Jim speedy recovery mate

[cowboyz]

I heard a rumour JD went out the back roads and fucked a sheep and thought.. nothng new..... now i see there is more to the story


Get well soon dude................

[kiwisfly]

Check out with insurance as the farmer can be charged for wondering stock.

Damn, nothing worse than intellectual sheep. Appreciate you're out of the big white building now but if you need a sponge bath...well offers there, grrr! Heal well dude.

[325rocket]

heal up. probably been offered on here earlier but if you want any magazines let me know i have a shit load of bike mags i can drop around.

[sunhuntin]

get better soon! glad you are still around

[MaxB]

Ouch, get well soon.

[Hans]

Bugger. I'm not too far away, so gizza yell if you need a hand with something or other around the house or some such. Broken ribs are a cunt.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Bad buzz Jim.

I was away on holiday and heard about this. Hope you're up and about asap.

Pete

[crazyhorse]

Sad to hear what happened. Good to hear you are still with us. ALl the best for your recovery Jim :yes:

[<G>]

Baaaad luck, best wishes for a speedy recovery.

[Hitcher]

We visited Mr Deuce yesterday (Saturday). He's out of hospital and at Heather's folks place near Carterton. Jim's a bit sad and sore, to be expected with several bust ribs, and twisted ankle and other technicolor contusions. He's also taken a bang to the head. Broken ribs are a bit of a bugger as there's no escaping the discomfort until they're healed. His rehabilitation will take some time.

The status of the sheep-shagged Buell is not yet known. It's still awaiting an assessor's report.

[Quasi]

Thanks for the update Hitcher. We dont like hearing that one of our own has gone down, so its good to know he is on the on the road of recovery,

[Robbo]

Hey Jim, sorry to hear of your unfortunate misshap. All the best for a speedy recovery.
Cheers

[gijoe1313]

Hope you heal up fast and the bike gets sorted toot sweet. Thank gosh you can be mended! I think its a conspiracy to take you out of action ... government sponsored hit sheep :no:

[rainman]

Sorry to hear about the off, and get well soon.

[caseye]

Hell James Deuce, I sure hope that the sheep was totally shagged.Get well soon man.Many thanks Heather, while "rider down" posts are never received favourably I think it would be fair to say that to hear that James is OK(yes injured) is damn fine news.

[StoneY]

Im still waiting for the invite to the spit roast!

[MSTRS]

Of the sheep - or the careless farmer?

[StoneY]

Of the sheep - or the careless farmer?

Both I can do canabilism in the name of revenge
This godamn sheep robbed me of my no.1 journo!

[StoneY]

Of the sheep - or the careless farmer?

Both I can do canabilism in the name of revenge
This godamn sheep robbed me of my no.1 journo!

[Swoop]

There are something like 10m sheep in NZed (Ok, I'm guessing) and you found the one with your name on it!
The problem is far greater if the sheep has "to whom it may concern" on it...

[James Deuce]

Thank you EVERYONE for all the kind words. I'm allowed back on the computer for a short while.

Brand new bike. First decent weather in ages. Need to put 600 miles on it at comparatively dawdly speeds before the first service.

It's awesome. Better than what the label says. Dawdling around on it is no trouble and having fun will be no trouble either. Beautifully built, more P47M than Spit XIV, but if you know what you're doing then Spit XIV pile-it is never going to see which way you went.

All ended badly by a sheep.

Farmers in this country have 0 legal responsibilities if their stock cause an accident. On the stretch of road I was on I spotted 4 loose sheep and a large bull on the side of the road at different points. Naturally I took it easy. Coming back I'd noted the places where there were animals and was careful to watch out for them, especially the bull. Someone had put the bull away, but let out three sheep in the process. I rode past them and accelerated away, not neeooooow away, just gently. As I hit 100km/hr a sheep erupted from the grass to my immediate left. I braked, hard, immediately elevating the rear wheel 45 degrees in the air. I missed it. Phew. As the back wheel touched the ground the sheep darted back in front of me twice striking the left side of the front wheel, turning the bars to the right. I've lost about a quarter of my foward velocity by now, but the sheep has artificially induced a high side accident. I get thrown through the air and wake up in the ditch. I landed on my head and left elbow and my right foot got hooked up under the bike.

Bike is probably written off. My wife was really proud of it, liked how it looked, how she'd organised a dream bike for me and some lazy farmer has ended it all. I took years earning my wife's trust and that's gone now. I'd just been in discussions with some UK bike magazines for freelance work and talking to Cycle World in the US about something a bit more permanent. That's all gone now.

I can't sue the farmer and now have 5 broken ribs and ankle twice the size it should be and yet another head injury and possible career change wrecked and a bunch of scared, misbehaving kids to calm down and sort out.

I got lots of praise for the gear I was wearing from all and sundry, the cop who was first on scene was awesome and thanks to some procedural changes instituted by a friend of mine whose partner died due to call centre incompetence had a helicopter to me within 20 minutes of him getting there. He found a likely field and transmitted exact GPS coords to the Helicopter crew. They were thrilled to see me. They'd been having a boring day.

It's taken seven days to get my pain relief working right.

I'm not saying no more bikes, but I am saying no more road riding. No more cruising about with friends on the weekend for a coffee and an ice cream somewhere different. I'm going to build a race bike a year in my garage and do the NZ Hillclimb champs in the "250cc class" (i'm making that up, but you know what I mean) and I'm going to use the least likely machinery I can find for it.

When the insurance money comes through, I'm going to by a convertible for my work car/going away for the weekend with the wife car, and try to repay her trust by spending actual proper time with her.

I'm NOT an ATTGATT Nazi, but I wear gear I think relevant to the task. Quasi's leather gear saved my left arm and shoulder from being broken, without a doubt. I have no road rash, just armour/skin interface damage. My Oxtar TCS boots, especially the right one saved me a broken ankle. Seriously. It's sprained and swollen from toes to mid-calf. The worst injuries are the 5 broken ribs.

I'm not OK. I'm not happy to be saying any of this. It's an event that shouldn't have happened, but I am thrilled to see at least one person take note of the fact that sheep are an actual threat on the road.

I can't overstate how awesome the Ekatahuna cop is. You people treat him with respect, you hear? He turned up, checked my neuro-obs repeatedly and wasn't happy with my head injury and got the ambo crew to make me stat2 to get the helicopter justified. I don't think I could have lived through an ambo trip to Palmerston from the wops.

Kari is directly responsible for the new accident victim location procedures and making my life easier and I am tremendously grateful to her. The cop got his GPS locator out of the patrol car, found the best paddock for the helicopter and transmitted the exact coordinates. The locals who found me were incredibly helpful, but not all that good from the first aid perspective or describing where they were, but by golly I'm grateful for their time, that they took the time to help. The cop followed up with Heather, organised the CVIU to quickly establish cause and whether or not charges would be laid. He was professional and super-concerned at the same time and tried to keep Heather apprised of the situation and potential outcomes at all times. If he charged me for anything I'd accept the judgement and say thanks. I spent a lot of time at the site apologising for wasting people's time and the cop listened and determined to be helpful based on my attitude.

Thank you again for all the offers of help and support.

I can't spend much time at keyboards at present, and so probably won't get to you all. I'll be pretty out of it until the end of next week too so just remember that if you visit and expect sense from me.

[Big Dave]

>>expect sense from me. <<

As if.
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[pzkpfw]

Lessons for us all, in there.


(Paragraphs, punctuation, capitalisation, spelling, ..., this guy writes better from a "hospital bed" (yes, I know) than most people who are all in one piece...)

[Maha]

Lessons for us all, in there.


(Paragraphs, punctuation, capitalisation, spelling, ..., this guy writes better from a "hospital bed" (yes, I know) than most people who are all in one piece...)

Maybe he dictated it to Hitcher?

[sugilite]

Hi Jim, I'm sorry to hear about this. Heal up asap. I really hope the job situation comes good, they would be silly to flag someone with your skillz away for the sake of a few weeks.

[AD345]

bad shit happening all round Jim

Have a gander at this when you get a minute: http://www.abmm.co.nz/index.php?page=wandering-stock-liabilities

[James Deuce]

bad shit happening all round Jim

Have a gander at this when you get a minute: http://www.abmm.co.nz/index.php?page=wandering-stock-liabilities
Farmers have an insurance "out" and aren't pursued for damages from my insurance company.

[Headbanger]

We managed to get a farmer to cover the cost of a bike repair a few years back, But it took a midnight visit, a couple baseball bats, and a trip to the river.

No one was hurt, We just thought we would ruin the fuckers week and get him to pay some coin.

[Trudes]

I am so glad to see your post Jim. Heal up my friend and I look forward to seeing what you build in your garage (could always build the meanest 2 stroke ever and come bucket racing with us!)
Big :hug: for you.

[James Deuce]

First up will be a 60s styled NZ250 framed and powered psuedo-GP bike for the 2011 hillclimb.

I'm hoping I can still get test bikes to review as well. Need to get through the next 6 weeks first though.

[MSTRS]

Great to see you back posting, Jim. It could so easily have been otherwise.
Take things easy. Or else...

[Ronin]

Good to see you post Mr James. I can understand the 'I'm not ok with this' bit.

I have a love hate relationship with that bit of New Zealand. Being almost right outside my backdoor it is tempting to ride it all the time. I can safely say, I have never ridden it without encountering either wildlife or dodgy road repairs. I just won't ride it on my own now.


I genuinely hope that you manage to keep the writing career intact. Your words are always both entertaining and informative.

[Nasty]

Thank god it has started working Jim ... glad to heal that you will mend .. and all that work we have done has not been for nothing ...

I have always said if it saves one life it is worth it ... guess what ... it is worth it!!!

[nudemetalz]

As everyone has said here, glad to hear you're on the mend for sure !!

Now, if you want any help with building a race bike, let me know. I've built a bucket or 2 in my time and know NZ250's fairly well ;)

Also, the Guzzi will be available anytime you want to go for a weekend blat.

[GOONR]

Really good to see you tippy tapping away.. I really hope that you manage to keep hold of the career that you have, you obviously have a passion for it.

Take it easy fella and heal well.

[yungatart]

I'm so glad that you are still here. :grouphug:
Good luck with the healing process....DON'T rush it!
A lesson to be learned, for sure!

[Ocean1]

Also, the Guzzi will be available anytime you want to go for a weekend blat.

Likewise, there's several assorted pieces of machinery here.

Anytime.

[RT527]

Lessons for us all, in there.


(Paragraphs, punctuation, capitalisation, spelling, ..., this guy writes better from a "hospital bed" (yes, I know) than most people who are all in one piece...)

Yup I should have orginized that frontal lobotomy while I had the chance.

[vifferman]

While it's good to see you're at least well enough to be posting, I must say that your post REALLY SUCKS!
I can understand the whys and wherefores, but I'm really, truly terribly pissed off to see such a great motorcycle riding and testing and writing-about motorcyclist chuck it all in because of a lousy fkn sheep.
Having worked on a sheep station for 2.5 years when I was younger, I must reiterate how much I REALLY HATE SHEEP! GRRrrrrrrrrr!! and all that.
And Grrrrrrrr!!! and all that to the useless farmer.

Get well soon, Dr J2.
Pleeeease...

[Goes and cranks up the BBQ to set fire to some bits of sheep to placate the BikerGodz...]

[James Deuce]

The whole thing sucks on many levels, but it was the sheer randomnous that pissed me off. A lazy farmer leaves sheep on the road because there isn't any come back. If there'd been a vehicle coming the other way, or even following me I would have been a lot worse off. It took years to get Heather to trust that I was capable of both not getting tickets and not hurting myself and that trust is gone and I love her and the kids too much to put them through this for a long while at least. I already busted myself up once really good and this one has removed the joy, at least in the immediate instance. That Buell was a treasure too and I killed a last of line and I'm not feeling that great about that.

[Str8 Jacket]

Let your head get better before you stress yourself re decision making Mr!!

Lemme know if you want some magazines or a crazy bitch to come visit at any stage, eh! ;)

[Fatjim]

Jim, if it makes you feel any better I popped round to your place Sunday and it was like Antarctica. You're better off in the rapa.

Got a pressie for you from the Fatjims, when your down this way again.

Heal up, before someone gives you a hug.

[EJK]

Wonder what would have happened if you'd just rammed through the sheep.

[vifferman]

Whelp, sacrificial lamb chops duly flambeed, and ingested.
Did it help, J2? :confused:

The Duvel and Renaissance Imperial Pale Ale are certainly helping me.
I'm still fuktoff though (in an anaesthetised sort of way - sort of dull grumpiness....)

[riffer]

Take it easy and heal nice and slow there buddy. Natural reaction to want to throw it all in, and I have to admit it's probably sensible to cut right back on the riding for a while. You've done more damage to your body than most people do, and those kids are still young. Right now they need to know that Dad's going to get better and spend more time with them.

Don't throw away the writing though. It's not just the bike writing; I think your talent is useful for far wider things.

Enjoy spending some time with Heather and the kids.

The RF's always here if you feel the need to get out on an old shitter. I'm sure its a while since you've ridden one of those.

[Clivoris]

Sweet to see your words again bro. Welcome back, rest up and try not to go stir crazy. I will come round sometime and you can enjoy watching me mow lawns and do shit.

[davebullet]

Re trust, I don't see how you broke it. Much the same as if I was taking public transport and the bus driver decides to go through a red and into a truck. Life is full of what ifs. It's not like you were pushing it or doing something consciously to break that trust. The emotions must be running all over the place. I don't know how old your kids are, but tell them that for a change Dad needs "you" for support. I did that to my 4 year old when I was injured and it was amazing how his focussed changed to one of concern and care for me. He forgot about being all "Mr. Independent". Well ok, all for about 5 minutes, but at least it took my mind off things and gave me something to smile at.

[Ixion]

Re trust, I don't see how you broke it. Much the same as if I was taking public transport and the bus driver decides to go through a red and into a truck. ..

It's not like that. Mr Duece's problem is that although what happened was not his fault, the trust that his wife previously had, that he would , somehow, avoid the fate that her fears assured her befell all motorcyclists, is now destroyed. Nothing can restore it, because nothing can sweep away the reality of the crash.

In her eyes, the pretence that "My husband is different , it won't happen to him" is no longer tenable. So if he were to go out again on a bike she would be terrified. A condition which Mr Deuce does not feel he can impose upon her.

It is one reason why I know I must NEVER crash. Mrs Ixion thinks exactly the same way. If I did crash, I might be willing to go back out there. But I could not ask her to accept the waiting at home, wondering, thinking "it happened before ".


A very difficult situation. I do not usually comment in Rider Down threads as a matter of policy but I must say that I am pleased and relieved that you are in one piece, and probably no more grumpy contrary and pig headed than before.

Perhaps you could start a business where people pay to ride trail bikes chasing sheep round and round paddocks scaring the devil out of them. Couldn't happen to better animals.

[chanceyy]

Great to see you posting Jim .. echo everyone elses comments

I am surprised there is no comeback on the farmer, Had a g/f horse escape and collide with a car, she was held liable for the injuries it caused. The insurance company sure pursued her for the damages and she paid every last cent to them.

having livestock I assumed i would be held responsible if they escaped and caused accidents .. (when did all that change? )

[Motu]

I thought the no blame to farmers regarding stock in motor vehicle accidents was repealed back in the 1990's.....or did they just fudge it? I think my wife has a misplaced confidence of my safety on a motorcycle....I just hope she is never wrong....you never want to tell a woman she is wrong,right?

Like Ixion I don't join the hand wringing in rider down threads as policy - but it sucks to prang your new bike,and I'm really happy you can feel so much pain.You do whatever you need to do - but don't give up the writing...you hear?!!

[Ixion]

I have a very very vague notion that horses come under different rules to livestock. Livestock is things like sheep and cows and camels that can be sent to the works. Horses class as, well, sort as big slow very very very stupid vehicles. Cos back in the day, horses WERE vehicles. So the rules on wandering livestock wouldn't cover horses - have a crash on a horse and it's treated same as a crash on a bicycle or motorbike.

I remember when I got my licence, the cops used to ask you 5 random verbal questions , which they made up on the spot. Mine asked me about the rules for horsedrawn vehicles. Dude, I'm sitting a motorbike test not a horse and cart test !

[quickbuck]

Horses class as, well, sort as big slow very very very stupid vehicles.
Yup,
I think you're right on the money there....
Our rules still hark back to he turn of last century....

[pzkpfw]

That Buell was a treasure too and I killed a last of line and I'm not feeling that great about that.

It was built to be ridden, not sit in a museum and be stared at. Don't feel bad on that account.

Frankly what happened to you is a lesson in that the "bad stuff" can happen to any of us at any time. A rider with mega experience can have something happen that they just can't avoid getting hurt from. It's a sobering thought.

If you feel you've used up all your "lives" or "chances", that's cool. If Heather+3 are top of your priority list, that's even cooler.

But I'll admit I got teary-eyed at two posts in this thread.

(But remember, just in case, my Z is yours, any time, for $20k...)

[Mom]

I REALLY HATE SHEEP! GRRrrrrrrrrr!! and all that.And Grrrrrrrr!!!
..

I have really hated sheep for many years, also stemming from time looking after them. I have no cruciate ligament in my left knee thanks to the woolie critters! Sheep taste yummy!


The whole thing sucks on many levels, but it was the sheer randomnous that pissed me off.

And there you hit the nail on the head J2. Randomness! That is what that was! From your retelling of it you stood no chance. At least you have a recollection of the detail of what happened. I have another friend on here that does not remember, all he knows is a sheep attempted to kill him too! That could happen to any one of us. Please dont stir your brain up thinking too hard for the now eh? Bangs on heads take some time to settle. You need to listen to soothing pan pipe music :devil2:

Promise me that you will rest your brain for as long as it takes for your ribs to stop hurting. When you can cough hard without pain then you can start thinking properly again.

[rwh]

Bugger. Heal up soon Jim.

Richard

[ajturbo]

well that was a short story and a half...!!!

a great shame about the bike, was looking forward to riding with you .. the two CR's, on song....

but heal up matey......

[Winston001]

It's not like that. Mr Duece's problem is that although what happened was not his fault, the trust that his wife previously had, that he would , somehow, avoid the fate that her fears assured her befell all motorcyclists, is now destroyed. Nothing can restore it, because nothing can sweep away the reality of the crash.

In her eyes, the pretence that "My husband is different , it won't happen to him" is no longer tenable. So if he were to go out again on a bike she would be terrified. A condition which Mr Deuce does not feel he can impose upon her.



Comprehensibly explicated by the Greek gentleman. Its the same reason I won't buy another bike. Responsibility to others and the belief we only get so many chances in life. So I'm off to Somalia to bring peace and love to those misunderstood folk........ :D

[Bob]

Jim - really sorry to hear the news. Take your own sweet time and get well at your own pace (says the man who still suffers from an injury that he rushed too much to get back from).
Heather - hope you are coping as well as can be expected and that family and friends are rallying round at this difficult time.
Best wishes to both of you,
Bob

[Swoop]

It is pleasing to note that dairy farming is replacing a large amount of sheep farming in NZ.
Maybe Fonterra need even more encouragement?:whistle:

[F5 Dave]

Wonder what would have happened if you'd just rammed through the sheep.
If anyone thinks to test that theory, my mate did so 3 weeks ago, north of Alfredton (they must breed suicidal sheep there). Hit it dead on side & sadly went flying with trip to hospital, concussion, & wrecked new to him bike.

The very dead sheep 'disappeared' in the time it took for the ambulance and Police getting there. One of the helpful locals on the farm quad was obviously the farmer & wanted the evidence gone while everyone was fussing over an ill looking gurgling bloke.

Really if I was the local Police I'd be publicising that there had been 2 potentially life threatening accidents involving wandering livestock & a warning that if any of these had been fatilities that would be treated as manslaughter through negligence.
Which is probably why I'm not in charge of the rural Police, or at least wouldn't be for long if I was. But may get people thinking maybe I should fix the dodgy fencing in that area.

When I'm in charge of the world - Then there will be changes!

[gunnyrob]

Hi Jim, glad to hear you're on the mend. Shame about the Buell, they're irreplacable you know (Just like you).

Ramon & I had an awesome weekend up at Cape Reinga, and I couldn't help thinking about the trip to Cape Palliser we did not too long ago, along with the amount of enjoyment we had.

Hopefully this is a temporary set back, but no matter what you decide, I'm sure you'll get sorted.

take care my friend, heal well.

[FROSTY]

Jim I'm just happy that there is a grumpy drugged up sore bloke typing this rather than the possible alternative.
Get well soon dude

[Winston001]

It is pleasing to note that dairy farming is replacing a large amount of sheep farming in NZ.



You'd rather hit a cow than a sheep?? Good luck..... :D

I'm from a farming background so I don't have the usual grumpiness about manure on the road or the odd wandering sheep. We are only able to live in this beautiful country because of farming. However it's damned serious when a bloke is nearly killed by a mouton. The law is as follows:

The Animals Law Reform Act 1989 sets out factors for determining whether an animal owner is negligent in allowing an animal to stray on to the road with regard to fencing. The relevant considerations under the legislation are:


the common practice in the area with regard to fencing and other measures taken to stop animals straying onto the road (such as cattle stops), and
any measures taken to warn users of that road of the likely presence of animals on the road.


There was a case in 2002(?) where a milk tanker hit a steer on the road. The farmer was held liable = $80,000 + interest and costs.

[Madness]

Bugger!

I remember hearing or reading about this off in the media. It stated that the rider was from Lower Hutt and was on his maiden ride, I had a inkling it was you James.

Heal fast & well my friend.

[awayatc]

sucks............

wishing you a speedy recovery

[Swoop]

You'd rather hit a cow than a sheep??
I guess that there are more sheep loose (NOT lose, you kb fuckwits!) due to the size between the wires on the fencelines. Cattle would require a much larger gap to get through. (I hope!)

[davebullet]

It's not like that. Mr Duece's problem is that although what happened was not his fault, the trust that his wife previously had, that he would , somehow, avoid the fate that her fears assured her befell all motorcyclists, is now destroyed. Nothing can restore it, because nothing can sweep away the reality of the crash.

Maybe we see trust differently. I see trust as "I promise not to be reckless and show off". "I promise to minimise the risk of injury in an accident by wearing good gear".

If by offering my trust meant I was promising I would never crash, then that is a trust I could never sensibly offer anyway riding a motorcycle.

[Toaster]

The whole thing sucks on many levels, but it was the sheer randomnous that pissed me off. A lazy farmer leaves sheep on the road because there isn't any come back. If there'd been a vehicle coming the other way, or even following me I would have been a lot worse off. It took years to get Heather to trust that I was capable of both not getting tickets and not hurting myself and that trust is gone and I love her and the kids too much to put them through this for a long while at least. I already busted myself up once really good and this one has removed the joy, at least in the immediate instance. That Buell was a treasure too and I killed a last of line and I'm not feeling that great about that.

I completely understand, having had the same thing happen in 2008. Cant say the wife is keen on my riding with two little kids too.

I am in Wellington, so if you need anything, help, mow the lawn or help in some way, just pm me.

[carver]

heal up soon jim, at least you wont have to ride that horrible buell

[Pussy]

For what it's worth.... without blowing sunshine up Jim's arse... James Deuce would be the most courteous and professional motorcyclist I have ever had the pleasure to ride with.
Karma got something VERY wrong on this occasion.
Kia kaha, Jim!! :niceone:

[ajturbo]

Karma got something VERY wrong on this ocassion.
Kia kaha, Jim!! :niceone:

but what about the sheep... it may have been the bad one....

[Shadows]

Goddamned land maggots.

Glad you're OK man, check your PMs.

[Crisis management]

I'm glad to hear you are mending Jim and understand your position, however now is not the time to throw away your journalistic skills...think on it first.

Get into racing or off road Jim, it's far safer!

Iain

[buellbabe]

Hi JD,
So sorry to hear about your accident! I heard about it from AJ, and was just stunned that you emerged with such relatively minor injuries...I say 'relatively minor' cos as he was relating the story to me I was expecting an entirely different outcome. PHEW! Breathed a huge sigh of relief that you are alive.

Damn shame about the bike :weep: The 2 CRs riding together would have been fun...

The whole wandering stock business scares me and reminds me of a time I was riding to Wanganui from National park...came around a corner to see a bloody great big bull standing on the side of the road. We eyeballed each other but fortunately for me he just stayed where he was...

As motorcyclist most of us love to get off the main highways and ride the 'back roads' so stock hazards are something that could happen to any of us. With that in mind I can fully understand your comment regarding losing your wifes trust and why you are now going to concentrate on non-road riding... good luck with whatever you decide to do in the future!

I am wishing you a speedy recovery and sending positive vibes your way:sunny: And also wanna send some love to your family because this must be so incredibly awful for them... Bless.

[Genestho]

Jim, I've been thinking about your post (great to see you post too matey) 6 weeks before Leon was killed, we had a car randomly u-turn in front of us, and it would've been a major, except for defensive riding skills.

My point is; of course I wish I had put my foot down (kinda did, but really wasn't stroppy enough, oh the irony!!) And well.. you know the rest.

I understand your wife's feeling on this, and all I can say is 'if only..' there's alot of maybe's attached to our scenario, but if I'd been firm - maybe I'd still be a living my safe, old life.

Anyway, sorry to ramble! :D


Good luck in building a trackbike Jim, and please relax and heal before thinking about throwing your writing away, talent like yours is really too good to waste. Cheers :)

EDIT: well done to Kari too. :)

[PuppetMaster]

Wow. That sux ass. Hope your back on your feet and 2 wheels real soon Jim.

[SPman]

Cant say the wife is keen on my riding with two little kids too. You ride with two little kids! .........where do they fit - do you strap them on?
My wife worries about me riding, particularly in the evening, as well.....and I worry about about her riding, sometimes (she crashed last). Guess it's just a natural reaction, but it shouldn't stop your life.....

[RantyDave]

Shit! I browse over on a whim and THIS has happened? Bugger.

[Insanity_rules]

Hey JD, my thoughts are with you man. Heal fast and climb back on that horse fella.

[limbimtimwim]

Shit!

Let's taxidermy the sheep. I'm using these as inspiration:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=269737859
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=269790887
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=269267440

[Paul in NZ]

Ah yer great lumpkin.... I go away for a few weeks and look what happens... Not only that - Ya had to kill the Buell before I got a ride on it... sigh!!! Honestly...

Don't stress old chap and forget the MX5... Heal up and come out for a paddle with me one day and I'll show you some fun without wheels thats family friendly to boot. Vicki and I have had 2 weeks and 3,000km driving, paddling, fishing aboot the south island and we had a ball...

Dr Pauls Perscription, get an numpty old classic bike (they cut sheep in half not the other way about) for a pittance... A couple of kayaks (3 seater sit on tops are on the market) or a dinged up old alloy dinghy, some surf casters and assorted rods plus camping kit.... A Kayak at sea is 99.999% sure of NOT hitting a sheep..


I'll give ya bell later and check on you and yours but sadly off again on monday for another stint in the salt mines so can't drop in for a visit (yes, I can tell you is sad about me not teasing you in person)... Chin up... Sing out if ya need anything

[davebullet]

I'll give ya bUell later and check on you....

Now you're talkin'.....

[Paul in NZ]

but what about the sheep... it may have been the bad one....

Nah - I've seen Jim eat a lamb shank... he was targetted i reckon...

[carbonhed]

Nah - I've seen Jim eat a lamb shank... he was targetted i reckon...

:laugh:

Suicide squad.... er... flock.

[Big Dave]

Nah - I've seen Jim eat a lamb shank... he was targetted i reckon...

As long as eating was all he did.

[Big Dave]

Whoever put 'land maggots' in the tags made me lol

[sels1]

Well flock me
Jim, I havnt had time to be on KB much lately and have only just stumbled upon this thread. I'd just like to pass on my best regards to you and yours, and wishing you well in the recovery process.

[StoneY]

He's kickin ass in mafia wars Sels, seems to be recovering ok :)

[Big Dave]

I had a communique from said operative late last week - He's working on some Kiwirider postages too.

[Paul in NZ]

I had a communique from said operative late last week - He's working on some Kiwirider postages too.

What section? The 'Help I've falled and can't get back up" section? (My fave)

Just wait till I get back to wellie and I'll drag him out kayaking, that will get him back on a bike double quick!

[Big Dave]

>>What section?<<

Entertaining with a Lamb Roast.

[Griffin]

I obviously dont come on here as often as I used to... Sorry to hear about your off JD, Hope you are on the mend and are going to get back on the horse soon. (Perhaps a different horse). Glad its not worse news :)

[Usarka]

Any one got any news from jim? just wondering how things are going........

[MsKABC]

Hope you are well on your way to being fully recovered James. It's never nice to hear a fellow biker has had an off.

[Ronin]

Any one got any news from jim? just wondering how things are going........

He frequents StalkerBook now.

[Okey Dokey]

Yes, I've wondered from time to time how the recovery was going. Smoothly, I hope. :)

[Elysium]

Think James may use a car next time.
Skip to about 5:00.

[Paul in NZ]

Got a txt from the banged up aging git not long ago - he is nearly ready for work.... (which means he will go back 3 days too early and suffer a complication but thats Jim...)

I'll try and get into town when I'm back in the civilised world and visit him or convince him to visit me.

[pzkpfw]

Popped 'round to visit him today.

He's pretty good, really, all things considered. He walks!

The stories were all interesting, but also various combinations of sad, happy, painfull, and more.

It's not my place to relate his stories on his behalf, but having heard them, based on my opinion these are for Santas' naughty and nice list:

Good:
Heather.
Cop where the accident occured.
Wellington Motorcycles.

Bad:
Farmers who don't control their stock.
Doctors who can't control their mouths.