Bike security chain - where?

[CookMySock]

Right, due to a minor intrusion here, I'm bolting everything to the floor.

What I'm after, is some chain that I can dynabolt one end to the concrete floor, and loop the other end around a wheel and padlock to itself.

Plastic covered chain might be good to not mark wheels etc, but can this stuff be cut much too easily?

Transport chain would be nice, but probably overkill. They'll need an angle grinder to get through that shit.

Suggestions and sources please.

many thanks,
Steve

[CHAPLIN]

Just got my bike so im paranoid about theft, went and purchased a oxford chain that comes with a strong lock from cycletreads.

[awayatc]

there are hardened security chains around..... locksmith/bikeshops sell them, hacksaw wont do much good on those

[CookMySock]

I guess I might be better off purchasing a proper chain with lock unit already attached, and just dynabolt part of it down.

Steve

[Pixie]

193441Here's some pics of my anchor.It is welded up out of 50 mm x 10 mm flat bar.When a chain or cable is fitted through it the bolt head cannot be turned as a spanner won't fit inside with the cable/chain in place.
The bolt does not need to be tightened and the anchor can swivel (to unscrew it with a bike chained to it,you would have to turn the whole bike and chain around many times.
193442

This is the type of anchor you want it is a 16 mm internal thread.
You drill a 19 mm hole and set the anchor by striking the internal wedge with a drift or a piece of 12 mm bar.

[p.dath]

A security guy told me once that stranded cable as opposed to chain is better.

He said bolt cutters or a hack saw can quickly cut through a chain. He said bolt cutters don't work on stranded cable (he gave me a go, and they don't), and using a hack saw on it takes a long time.

[blossomsowner]

Go to a wholesaler that deals with supplies for logging crews..........they have all the good cahin and wire rope you could ever want.
and they can splice eyes into the ends of a wire rope for you.

then you buy a decent quality lock to finish the job.

And you can run the lock device through an arrangement like the one pixie showed.

good luck

[Big Dave]

Will cost you a few hundy to do it right with off the shelf gear - Kriptonite eg makes a very good ground anchor system and hi-tensile chain which retails for about $350 the pair.

You can buy a cable lock starting from around $20 and how much is it to comprehensively insure a Hyo?

[george formby]

Try & find hex link chain. Very difficult to cut as it rolls. An old inner tube is good to cover the chain & I would reccommend an insurance / security tested padlock. They are rated by the number of hit's from a sledge hammer required to break them.

[Pixie]

Go to a wholesaler that deals with supplies for logging crews..........they have all the good cahin and wire rope you could ever want.
and they can splice eyes into the ends of a wire rope for you.

then you buy a decent quality lock to finish the job.

And you can run the lock device through an arrangement like the one pixie showed.

good luck

Or a ships chandler they can supply stainless cable

[fliplid]

Most bike dealers sell security stuff, or go to a security dealers direct, lots of them around. Also get the best lock you can- no point in super hard chain and $2 Shop toffee lock.

[CHAPLIN]

I reackon the trick is if somebody wants your bike, a set up where they have to make a lot of noise is good, eg cutting chains, hammering etc, Ive got one of those battery powered (+ set to recharge off solar) alarms in the top corner with a steel cage which will resist a good hammer bash, the ear pierceing sound is unbareable.

[sinned]

Right, due to a minor intrusion here, I'm bolting everything to the floor.

What I'm after, is some chain that I can dynabolt one end to the concrete floor, and loop the other end around a wheel and padlock to itself.


Suggestions and sources please.

many thanks,
Steve
Is bolting everything down an appropriate solution to your "minor intrusion"? Have you considered other options and what else are you going to do to prevent someone stealing the bike? It is impossible or too costly to fully prevent a theft but if you make it difficult the thief will choose an easier target.
Some simple things to consider:


Alarm system on the house / garage
Turn off auto garage doors if away for a few days
Bike keys kept where they can't be found or got - buy a bike with a coded key system
Know your neighbours

Security is about building layers of difficulty for a thief to slow them down and make the theft risky.

If you install a bolted down device will you use it?

[fliplid]

I reackon the trick is if somebody wants your bike, a set up where they have to make a lot of noise is good, eg cutting chains, hammering etc, Ive got one of those battery powered (+ set to recharge off solar) alarms in the top corner with a steel cage which will resist a good hammer bash, the ear pierceing sound is unbareable.

In the misty annals of time RiDE mag had a feature on bike security- and some folk were using them blank shot gun cartridge "bird scarers"... Not sure if legit, but, hey!

[Miscreant]

Right, due to a minor intrusion here, I'm bolting everything to the floor.

What I'm after, is some chain that I can dynabolt one end to the concrete floor, and loop the other end around a wheel and padlock to itself.

Plastic covered chain might be good to not mark wheels etc, but can this stuff be cut much too easily?

Transport chain would be nice, but probably overkill. They'll need an angle grinder to get through that shit.

Suggestions and sources please.

many thanks,
Steve

It's a hyodung. Are crims really that stoopid?

[Miscreant]

there are hardened security chains around..... locksmith/bikeshops sell them, hacksaw wont do much good on those

Unless you cut the surface with the edge of a file. If a crim is going to bring a hacksaw, it won't be too hard to carry a file too.

[Miscreant]

A security guy told me once that stranded cable as opposed to chain is better.

He said bolt cutters or a hack saw can quickly cut through a chain. He said bolt cutters don't work on stranded cable (he gave me a go, and they don't), and using a hack saw on it takes a long time.

They cut my stranded cable with a hacksaw and dragged the bike past my bedroom window. Disk lock fucked em up in the end and I found the bike a few meters down the road. Always use an alarm disk lock now, let's see you get that past my window.

But I've heard that a co2 fire extinguisher will fuck them up. Freeze them then smack the the lock. Dunno though, sounds like one for myth busters.

[CookMySock]

Lots of good info - keep it coming. Just for today, we'll dynabolt some chain to the concrete floor and weld the nuts on. Will loop the chain through a wheel and padlock it. Thats the best we can do on a public holiday. Also later this week will add extra PIR security lights, warning signs, alarm for the mrs bike, and nunchuck behind the back porch door.

My guess is thats all we'll need. Also wouldn't mind some PIR remote "doorbell" thingy that chimes when someone walks through its' zone, then "woody" my nunchuck mate and me can go "investigate."

If we had 100k worth of harleys, we'd go a little higher end.. perhaps with the shotgun instead of the nunchuck. :niceone:

Steve

[thebadger]

A security guy told me once that stranded cable as opposed to chain is better.

He said bolt cutters or a hack saw can quickly cut through a chain. He said bolt cutters don't work on stranded cable (he gave me a go, and they don't), and using a hack saw on it takes a long time.

We got a big stranded cable with plastic casing from Bunnings, and a massive padlock. It's pretty heavy weight, can't see anyone being able to saw through it quicky. We can get it through a bike and through a ground anchor and back around again, or looped through the front wheels of two bikes and padlocked up nice and secure. Just make sure the padlock is big and meaty, would be pointless buying a big cable that needs to be sawed through and then having thieves rip through the lock with bolt cutters.

[CookMySock]

All done. They better not turn up after dark again, coz they will get a nasty surprise.

Steve

[Tank]

You can buy a cable lock starting from around $20 and how much is it to comprehensively insure a Hyo?

DB has said many times that he dosnt believe in insurance.


Also later this week will add extra PIR security lights, warning signs, alarm for the mrs bike, and nunchuck behind the back porch door.

My guess is thats all we'll need. Also wouldn't mind some PIR remote "doorbell" thingy that chimes when someone walks through its' zone, then "woody" my nunchuck mate and me can go "investigate."

If we had 100k worth of harleys, we'd go a little higher end.. perhaps with the shotgun instead of the nunchuck. :niceone:


Nunchuck - LOL @ the dangerous ninja. Your more likley to knock yourself out. :slap:

Seriously - you are spending more on security than the bike is worth - Just celotape a copy of a review of the bike to the tank.

Then - the guy wont steal it and will probably hurt himself laughing so much.

Your welcome!

[Smifffy]

Got any links to some good tutorial books or DVD's for using nunchuks? Or better yet a qualified instructor?

[spudchucka]

You'd think that just owning a Hyosung would be enough to deter the thieves!

[bogan]

do they make hyosung parking only signs? could be a bit of money in that as all bikers could get one for theft deterrent!

[Flip]

Got a "go ahead punks make my day security" system myself.
Also double door locks on a reinforced door and a basic alarm system.

If the buggers get past that and me they can have my bike it's insured.

[JimO]

A security guy told me once that stranded cable as opposed to chain is better.

He said bolt cutters or a hack saw can quickly cut through a chain. He said bolt cutters don't work on stranded cable (he gave me a go, and they don't), and using a hack saw on it takes a long time.

my auxiliary outboard was secured on the boat with a stranded cable but i had to get it off and had lost the key, 2 mins with a hacksaw and it was gone

[Pixie]

my auxiliary outboard was secured on the boat with a stranded cable but i had to get it off and had lost the key, 2 mins with a hacksaw and it was gone

Depends on the cable.High Tensile is not easy to cut and security cables a la Kryptonite,have tubular shell sections over the cable that just spin if you try to saw them.

[CookMySock]

Well I got a hidden light-beam door-shop-minder thingy with a loud beeper by my bed, and a long fucken pipe by my back door. Modern electronics meets caveman - best of both worlds.

Lets see those bitches argue with that security system.

Steve

[Smifffy]

Well I got a hidden light-beam door-shop-minder thingy with a loud beeper by my bed, and a long fucken pipe by my back door. Modern electronics meets caveman - best of both worlds.

Lets see those bitches argue with that security system.

Steve

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