What cracks me up about the AMA is

[cheese]

That is a bunch of yanks riding about on Jap bikes when they hate Jap cars. I guess being 1/3 of the worlds market of bikes they have a heavy influence on what goes into the bikes, but has there ever been any big USA brand bikes and were they any good? Or were they as shit as their cars??

[Reckless]

That is a bunch of yanks riding about on Jap bikes when they hate Jap cars?

Yeh fuckin oath mate they should all be on Ktm's! LOL!! TUI!!!

Simple fact his no one over their makes MXers so if the American Motrocycle Association wants a competition they have no choice!
USA made would be shit anyway Yanks haven't made a volume production vehicle that handles well at any time in, any arena LOL!!!
Ha the closest they came to make a volume bike that handles 1/2 decent was Buell and they just shut the fucker down! LOL!!!
Ah well back to drinking!!

PS you riding anywhere on Sunday? (if I'm sober by then )??

[cheese]

Na I've been riding for the last 3 weeks so that's my quota for the mo. LOL Maybe next weekend? I need to do some maintenance on my bike.... Something is jingling..... I can't find it and it gives me the shits.... I think that it might be the kickstarter banging into the expansion chamber.....

[Reckless]

its your balls banging together mate you need less babies and more sex!!!!

Edit: I've watched the last 3 rounds thanks to the thread on here Fucking good racing so far, I must say

[cheese]

Na mate, no more after this baby!! LOL balls banging together.... haha!

[Reckless]

ha You be in for the snip then!!
Just don't believe the bullshit mate! You know what they say!

You'll get more sex if your safe!!-Yeh right! it simply doesn't happen (well not with the wife anyway!) LOL!!!
It's better for you if I go off the pill! Bullshit! the pill controls their moods you gotta deal with mean as PMT monthly after YOUR operation!!
Its a much simpler operation for you!- I confess that's pretty much right!

PS it makes no difference to your pleasure mate wanking is still good fun LOL!!!!!!!

Its all a big con job mate not that I regret it! Well not till the cancer starts !!

Now I'm off to bed to sober up!!! Night all!!!

[Rupe]

Yeh fuckin oath mate they should all be on Ktm's! LOL!! TUI!!!

Hey rick I've found your next ktm http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Quads-ATVs/auction-262694909.htm

[Reckless]

oh that would be peeerfect if the fucker was orange!! I'm in the right purchasing group as well!! LOL!! get it!

Anyway I can't ride the little 2hundy any good what would I do with something with 2 more wheels and that comfy as seat!!!

By the way I enjoyed being back on a CR last ride out. Real fun! If the bloody thing didn't keep throwing me off it'd be better though! Sorry B0000M!!
BTW: B000M said my bike was soooo easy to ride, well I wish it was that way for me!! LOL!!! Bastard!

[slowpoke]

USA made would be shit anyway Yanks haven't made a volume production vehicle that handles well at any time in, any arena LOL!!!
Ha the closest they came to make a volume bike that handles 1/2 decent was Buell and they just shut the fucker down! LOL!!!
Ah well back to drinking!!


Showin' your age there baby boy!

About the same time Cal Rayborn was cleaning up the Daytona 200 on a Harley, Ford's GT40 was killing Ferrari at Le Mans. A comparatively run of the mill Boss Mustang or DZ302 Camaro would give any other volume manufactured car of the time a run for it's money and wouldn't break the bank doing it. The local GTHO and 327/350 Monaro's were just rebodied American running gear thanks to their American parent companies and I seem to recall they weren't too shabby on the local scene.

Want something newer? The modern GT40 is pretty good and the 2009 ZL1 Corvette won a test against the 2009 GTR Skyline:
http://www.insideline.com/chevrolet/corvette/2009/comparison-test-2009-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-vs-2009-nissan-gt-r.html

Here's a lil' excerpt that basically says you should stick to drinkin':

"Through the slalom cones the ZR1 shocks again, with an average speed of 74.7 mph. Not only is this fractionally faster than the all-wheel-drive GT-R's 74 mph, it smokes the GT2's 71.6 mph by a long shot..."

[Danger]

Hmmm I love American cars and dislike Japanese cars and even my Honda US Wagon was built in the USA, so I actually have two American cars even though the Honda is a Japanese company! I think I dislike Australian built cars just about as much as Japanese, boring cars driven by fattys who can't find their dicks anymore mostly.
I do like Japanese MX bikes though, well at least a couple of them before they went all stupid and put diesel engines in them.

[tommorth]

hahaha I was watching a sx on tv last night some good raceing but the inteviews are an utter load of crap spout as many sponsers names as quick as possible and put a pair of google on ur shoulder with stickers all over the lense , I know the sponsers are what make it all possible but its and utter load of arse

[Danger]

Don't forget the rehearsed lifting of the drink sponsors product to your lips just as the interview starts and finishes without actually drinking anything lol! Yeah the interviews are a complete waste of time for the watcher.

[barty5]

http://www.atkusa.com/atk/(S(y4xntv45qoh1irvwyeoejb55))/Default.aspx


have a read through here

[camchain]

Harley Davidson actually built a motocrosser in the late 70's. (Can't remember if they used someone else's engine).

Cheers for the link barty - I didn't realise ATK was still in business. There was an older ATK blatting round at the sandpit before Christmas. They had an interesting setup with countershaft sprocket in line with swingarm pivot, just like the new Beemer 450 (chain tension stays constant as swingarm moves).

[barty5]

they use to run the rear brakes up on the drive sprocket as well less weight on the rear wheel was a very small disc thought and they where all 2T back then as well you still get a few on TM that pop up and there is a dealer in auzzie.

[Danger]

There was also Cannondale a few short years ago, shame they didn't survive. I've actually got a front and rear Ohlins from off a Cannondale, rear shock was like the original KTM Ohlins PDS with what we call a piston and a half setup. Quite an innovative bike with many features that are starting to surface on others now like the Yamaha 450 with the exhaust coming out the rear of the engine (from memory Cannondale ran the same setup). Not sure why they folded, think their bikes were too expensive to make.

[barty5]

If you read through the link i posted re: ATK you will find they have survived to a point but only in the fact that Atk took them over to keep it alive.

[cheese]

If you read through the link i posted re: ATK you will find they have survived to a point but only in the fact that Atk took them over to keep it alive.

Huh?? ATK got taken over by ATK?

[ChurchurDan]

The ATK 700 2t would be a handfull. Nice looking bikes too.

[barty5]

no atk took over cannondale

[cheese]

Oh right.

Anyway my other observation of AMA, they are just about all Gingers... Dam you Gingers, you've got a secret society and are trying to take over the world.

[tommorth]

ninjas in disgise

[Rupe]

Oh right.

Anyway my other observation of AMA, they are just about all Gingers... Dam you Gingers, you've got a secret society and are trying to take over the world.

the also have long hair, and they like to say thanks to the big man upstairs. maybe if I go to church and grow long ginger hair i'll get crazy fast too .

[oldguy]

but you have to admit, anyone who is anyone in MX wants to go to the states to prove they are.
FIM vs AMA outdoors I know which I prefer, to watch.
JS7 been called the N word, but never a Ginger
you also have to be named
Ryan, Josh, Jason or unsual name like Trey

[Danger]

I thought that 450 race was sick! Much more entertaining without Bubba and Reed riding.
And yes a high proportion of the top riders in recent years have had redish hair if not outright ginger, like BT, Everts, RC, Poto, now Dungey is getting up there and I can think of some local kids that have ginger hair that are very good riders too.

[krad_nz]

What is it about the gingers aye? Dungey isn' a ginge though?

[p.dath]

That is a bunch of yanks riding about on Jap bikes when they hate Jap cars. I guess being 1/3 of the worlds market of bikes they have a heavy influence on what goes into the bikes, but has there ever been any big USA brand bikes and were they any good? Or were they as shit as their cars??

I would say China would be the worlds largest market for motorbikes, probably followed by India. China is also a huge manufacturer of motorbikes, but most of it is made for domestic consumption.

[takitimu]

That is a bunch of yanks riding about on Jap bikes when they hate Jap cars. I guess being 1/3 of the worlds market of bikes they have a heavy influence on what goes into the bikes, but has there ever been any big USA brand bikes and were they any good? Or were they as shit as their cars??

Mmmm, first thing, the latest Camaro is pretty damn good, I'd choose it over an XR6, only minor problem is the roof is damn low. The latest Yank cars in general are pretty damn good, they've improved alot in the last 4 years.

In something like Hill climbing no doubt the move to Jap bikes over the last 5 years affected crowds ( massive reduction ), but given the crowds were Harley riders, is that really surprising, I'm not so sure it was the fact the bikes were Jap, just they were not Harleys, would have made no difference if they were KTM or Husky & the Hill Climb crowd is very different to MX/SX.

Last thought, I am sure you'd have thought that a US company could not get close to Nikon/Canon/Sony/Panasonic, but Red is doing just that & Polaris just bought swissauto. The Yanks are a weird bunch, but they have some really smart/wealthy people, if/when Polaris make a play for the Dirt Bike market I don't think it'll be a flop like the BMW.

[cheese]

I would say China would be the worlds largest market for motorbikes, probably followed by India. China is also a huge manufacturer of motorbikes, but most of it is made for domestic consumption.

Sorry I was referring to dirt bikes. bikes in general, well China and India have fuckloads.