Buses/Coaches pissing on our roads!

[Kiwi Graham]

Anyone know what the heck all the liquid is that pours onto the road just behind their rear wheels is?

I first thought perhaps it's the condensation run off from the AC but following one back from Puke today and seeing the amount that comes out, no way could that be from the AC.

next thought, grey water from the wash basin in the toilet.

Worst thought, direct flush from the toilet!!!!

[wynw]

I was wondering the same thing yesterday, cetainly made me close my visor and pass as quiclkly as i could!!!

[Mully]

Lot of the local buses have a runoff from the Air Con.

I'd be surprised if it's legal for them to discharge directly onto the road. Maybe they have a leak in the holding tank.

[golfmade]

Most likely is the grey water from the wash basin. I would think/hope it's illegal to dump toilet refuse directly onto the road such as that.

[sunhuntin]

Most likely is the grey water from the wash basin. I would think/hope it's illegal to dump toilet refuse directly onto the road such as that.

if the stock trucks can dump shit on the road without much chance of consequences, why would dumping human shit be any different? lol

[YellowDog]

Watch out for those King Sized Mars Bars.........................

[golfmade]

if the stock trucks can dump shit on the road without much chance of consequences, why would dumping human shit be any different? lol

Good point but not sure how the rules work down there. Seen plenty of trucks with cattle and pigs being driven here but nothing ever fell out. Back home Stateside as well.

[red mermaid]

If a bus dumps anything on the road it is illegal. They must have a holding tank to collect grey water and septic waste.

Stock trucks are allowed to drop waste, but this exemption only applies while they are carrying stock.

[quickbuck]

Good point but not sure how the rules work down there. Seen plenty of trucks with cattle and pigs being driven here but nothing ever fell out. Back home Stateside as well.

Umm, it doesn't come out until they hit a 35k bend at 45!
Just something else to watch out for on a tighter bend.... Good thing there are warning signs up for most main roads.

Motorcyclists have been ignoring these "Speeds" for years, BUT the way to look at them is a rating for cr@p on the road.
The lower the number the more chance of something slippery......

As for legalities, well the crime is in getting caught.

On the theme look out on back roads where there are cattle in a paddock. Some where along there the farmer will let them out for a controlled graze...
The animals are allowed to freely do whet they please while being grazed, or moved between paddocks.

[nana_mac]

Yes some of are right it is from the air con, so no worries to you guys it's all clean and non slip. Worst things on our roads than water.

[SMOKEU]

While we're on the subject of heavy vehicles, why do big diesel trucks emit that 'blow off valve' noise?

[Cloggy]

While we're on the subject of heavy vehicles, why do big diesel trucks emit that 'blow off valve' noise?
When they come to a stop you mean? If so then I believe it's the vacuum operated brakes.

[EJK]

You should check out the 1th-19th Centry. Literal "shit" on the road. It's no bull shit.

[quickbuck]

You should check out the 1th-19th Centry. Literal "shit" on the road. It's no bull shit.

Yes, but that was well before the pneumatic tyre....

[CookMySock]

When they come to a stop you mean? If so then I believe it's the vacuum operated brakes.If it's when they come to complete halt, that is compressed air releasing from the brakes when the drivers brake pedal is released. Truck wheel brakes are operated by compressed air.

If it's at highway speeds, they can increase their engine braking ten or twenty fold by forcing the engine to stop raising its' exhaust valves. On older trucks this makes a huge farrrrrrt-sound racket, and can often be heard many km's away on a still morning.

Steve

[Swoop]

Stock trucks are allowed to drop waste, but this exemption only applies while they are carrying stock.
Why is this? Fitting a holding tank should be required.
We have enough hazards on our 3rd world roads, as it is.

[crazyhorse]

if the stock trucks can dump shit on the road without much chance of consequences, why would dumping human shit be any different? lol

A part flush of the toilet cistern would probably be why........... think of all that water at once :rofl: visions are too much to handle :killigme

[Kiwi Graham]

Well seeing the amount of fluid being poured onto the raod I struggle to belive it was run of from the AC. As the coach went round corners the flow would increase in the run of outside of the corner. The fluid did look clear (difficult to tell really) but there was a steady stream of it.

The AC run of on my car is more like a very slow drip. For instance if I pull up and tick over for 5 mins there will be a tiny pool of water size of a mouse mat. I know the units in coaches are much bigger so a faster drip would be expected but I often see this cascade of fluid when they are on the move and have yet to really notice it when they are stationary.

[red mermaid]

Because when the law was drafted, Federated Farmers and the Road Transport Forum made submissions on behalf of their members along the lines of, how can we stop animals we are carrying crapping on the road?
So they got the exemption.

However once they have no stock on board they are not allowed to spill any waste.


Why is this? Fitting a holding tank should be required.
We have enough hazards on our 3rd world roads, as it is.

[scumdog]

Because when the law was drafted, Federated Farmers and the Road Transport Forum made submissions on behalf of their members along the lines of, how can we stop animals we are carrying crapping on the road?
So they got the exemption.

However once they have no stock on board they are not allowed to spill any waste.

Somebody down here should tell some of the truck drivers that.....

[oldrider]

If a bus dumps anything on the road it is illegal. They must have a holding tank to collect grey water and septic waste.

Stock trucks are allowed to drop waste, but this exemption only applies while they are carrying stock.

Did you actually check that?

I don't think they are but they never get pulled up for dumping stock effluent on the road anyway, nobody seems to care, except us and maybe one day ACC!

[peasea]

While we're on the subject of heavy vehicles, why do big diesel trucks emit that 'blow off valve' noise?

If the vehicle is cruising along, without the brakes being activated, it will be the compressor (for the brakes) by-passing after the braking system has reached a pre-determined pressure. If the driver isn't using the brakes, no pressure is lost in the system (hopefully) but the compressor still runs and wants to add to the system; becuase that pressure isn't required it by-passes to atmosphere.

[Sable]

Could be diesel. A lot of operators overfill the tanks and it tends to slosh out when the bus changes direction or speed.

[quickbuck]

If the vehicle is cruising along, without the brakes being activated, it will be the compressor (for the brakes) by-passing after the braking system has reached a pre-determined pressure. If the driver isn't using the brakes, no pressure is lost in the system (hopefully) but the compressor still runs and wants to add to the system; becuase that pressure isn't required it by-passes to atmosphere.

To add to this, I'm pretty sure Truck Brakes are "Fail Safe".
This means that the compresses air actually holds the calipers open, and they are spring loaded on.
SO when you loose air pressure your brakes come ON.

This is why there used to be many huge lock-ups down the road.
This was caused by the trailer couplings coming undone during the trip.
The coupling system has obviously got better, as you don't see it much anymore.... OR, is it because I live in a different island now???

[peasea]

To add to this, I'm pretty sure Truck Brakes are "Fail Safe".
This means that the compresses air actually holds the calipers open, and they are spring loaded on.
SO when you loose air pressure your brakes come ON.



Quite correct

[red mermaid]

Did you actually check that?

I don't think they are but they never get pulled up for dumping stock effluent on the road anyway, nobody seems to care, except us and maybe one day ACC!

I dont need to check if this correct. It is part of my bread and butter, something I have been dealing with for about 26 years.

And yes, they do get issued notices. $600.

[PirateJafa]

1st-19th Century.

Fixed.


Somebody down here should tell some of the truck drivers that.....

One would almost think that that might be a job for... the police? :crazy: