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Tank
8th February 2010, 09:47
Wont be everyones cup of tea - but will be interesting racing - these things are out of this world. The engineering in them is just, WOW!.

Looking at the wing on the BMW boat (thats a wing, not a sail) is 190 feet tall and is 80% larger in area than the wing on a 747 - they were going 32mph when winds hit a max of 10 knots.

Impressive stuff.

Starts tonight Skysport 2 - 9.45 pm.

Edbear
8th February 2010, 09:49
It's going to be very interesting racing for sure! Haven't got Sky but I guess I'll see it on TV tomorrow or they'll have highlights tonight.

Swoop
8th February 2010, 10:01
Much better than rugby.

onearmedbandit
8th February 2010, 10:24
From what I read in the paper it's not really going to be much of an event, best of 3 races or something similar, could be all over in 2 races the article said. Also apparently Alinghi has a motor on board now to help raise the sails as they are so heavy, so no grinding being done now?

Kiwi Graham
8th February 2010, 10:50
Its a bloody shame its taken so long to get on the water and in such a way no other syndicates to take part, so we end up with a best of three contest.
Much prefered the one design contender/challenger/defender match racing weve had for the last four cups. Hopefully after this cup it will all be sotred out again and racing will be the focus and not two rich pricks throwing their teddies in the corner and spitting dummies.
Having said that the two boats that heve been built for this cup are bloody amazing, the pre start is going to be something to watch.

Swoop
8th February 2010, 11:18
Its a bloody shame its taken so long to get on the water and in such a way no other syndicates to take part, so we end up with a best of three contest.
Much prefered the one design contender/challenger/defender match racing weve had for the last four cups.
It is the same basis that the NZ "big boat" challenge happened in 1988. The defenders did not set a date for the next challenge series, so they were forcibly challenged, as allowed in the rules. This type of challenge allows the choice of boat... "see you on the 17th of May and we're racing in P-class" affair.

piston broke
8th February 2010, 14:31
for those without sky.

http://33rd.americascup.com/en/regate/regarder-la-course/show.php

live racing there

Maha
8th February 2010, 14:37
I have lost interest over the years. Since the Black Boat in San Diego its been a complete brain fuck of an event.
87' was the best its ever been, ahhhhhhhhhhhhh the good ole' days of KZ7 v Dennis Conner.

So whos racing in this lastest fiasco?

Hitcher
8th February 2010, 20:24
I'd rather watch fucking paint dry. This is not sport, people, any more than the "space race" of the 1960s was sport.

golfmade
9th February 2010, 04:21
Never understood how it worked, as I'm originally from a landlocked place. So, they're big boats that go fast, people scramble around the deck to make sure they get as much wind as possible anndddd... the winner crosses the finish line first?

Kiwi Graham
9th February 2010, 05:12
Oh no mate, the winner is the one with the best argument in the committee rooms and court. Ha ha

Patrick
9th February 2010, 16:34
Oh no mate, the winner is the one with the best argument in the committee rooms and court. Ha ha

Sums it up. The rich mans game, court battles instead of sailing battles. Gone are the days of National Pride, when the kiwi boat was full of.... Kiwis......

tri boy
9th February 2010, 19:06
A man who cannot appreciate a yacht under full sail, has never drank enough rum. MHO

MIXONE
9th February 2010, 19:12
A man who cannot appreciate a yacht under full sail, has never drank enough rum. MHO

Which is why I prefer Jack Daniel's and anything with a motor!

yachtie10
9th February 2010, 19:24
I have lost interest over the years. Since the Black Boat in San Diego its been a complete brain fuck of an event.
87' was the best its ever been, ahhhhhhhhhhhhh the good ole' days of KZ7 v Dennis Conner.

So whos racing in this lastest fiasco?

A rich prick called Larry Ellison (owns Oracle)
and another rich even bigger prick Ernesto Bertarelli

2 of the biggest egos Ive ever seen with ernesto taking the prize

Will be facinatiing to watch these boats race as the tech is really out there

must say i hope oracle wins as there is a better chance of a fairer cup in the future.

Swoop
9th February 2010, 19:28
Gone are the days of National Pride, when the kiwi boat was full of.... Kiwis......
That is why Oracle is referred to as "Team NZ B"...:whistle:

Skyryder
9th February 2010, 20:14
I'd rather watch fucking paint dry. This is not sport, people, any more than the "space race" of the 1960s was sport.

Yea ya right. Only reason it's called sport is that there is a winner and loser. Got nothing else in common with sport.

Skyryder

PirateJafa
9th February 2010, 20:22
Never understood how it worked, as I'm originally from a landlocked place. So, they're big boats that go fast, people scramble around the deck to make sure they get as much wind as possible anndddd... the winner crosses the finish line first?

Sounds like you don't consider the MotoGP a sport either.

ckai
9th February 2010, 21:01
Wont be everyones cup of tea - but will be interesting racing - these things are out of this world. The engineering in them is just, WOW!.

Looking at the wing on the BMW boat (thats a wing, not a sail) is 190 feet tall and is 80% larger in area than the wing on a 747 - they were going 32mph when winds hit a max of 10 knots.

Impressive stuff.

Starts tonight Skysport 2 - 9.45 pm.

I was wondering why I couldn't see it on the TV1 guide. Sky the bastards!


Its a bloody shame its taken so long to get on the water and in such a way no other syndicates to take part, so we end up with a best of three contest.
Much prefered the one design contender/challenger/defender match racing weve had for the last four cups. Hopefully after this cup it will all be sotred out again and racing will be the focus and not two rci pricks throwing their teddies in the corner and spitting dummies.
Having said that the two boats that heve been built for this cup are bloody amazing, the pre start is going to be something to watch.

I'm with you, I think it's gonna be nuts seeing those monsters open up. I had to read up (good old wikipedia) on the whole ordeal because I didn't know why there was only two boats. Then I remembered it was from Alinghi being dodgy at the start and hurting nerdy guys feelings because rich swiss prick said his boat looked funny.

Fine, they said, we'll build big crazy carbon, kevlar boats that will scare the shit out of us and only be manned by us, our mothers, and the family dog.

Booya I hope it blows like a bitch and they starting, literally, flying. :Punk:


for those without sky.

http://33rd.americascup.com/en/regate/regarder-la-course/show.php

live racing there

Legend :niceone:

golfmade
10th February 2010, 03:02
Sounds like you don't consider the MotoGP a sport either.

Never stated that I don't think America's Cup and sailing in general isn't a sport.

As for MotoGP I enjoy watching it and they actually show it some times here in Taiwan. I'll watch F1 as well but Nascar never was interested in.

Patrick
13th February 2010, 11:04
Oracle finally won the first race by 4km..... speeds up to 20knots. Awesome to see, but what an arse kicking.

Edbear
13th February 2010, 18:15
Oracle finally won the first race by 4km..... speeds up to 20knots. Awesome to see, but what an arse kicking.

Brad Butterworth didn't mince his words afterwards either. It was so one-sided it wasn't even a race!

Look, I'm a fair-minded and impartial man, but I have to admit to being just a wee bit pleased at the result...

yachtie10
13th February 2010, 18:20
Oracle finally won the first race by 4km..... speeds up to 20knots. Awesome to see, but what an arse kicking.

I Think you will find thats up to 30 knots
they do more than 20 upwind

I stayed up and watched
what incredible boats and the result i was hoping for

Kiwi Graham
13th February 2010, 18:56
The result put a smile on my face I must admit, lets hope the next one is just as convincing and then this whole bloody farce can be put to bed.
However they are both bloody impressive machines (soon to be dinosaurs) but you'd need a bloody big waterfront to stick em on for static display (aka big boat). Can you imagine them ever being used in anger again after this?

Bring back the one design and full challenger and defender series.

PirateJafa
14th February 2010, 00:53
However they are both bloody impressive machines (soon to be dinosaurs) but you'd need a bloody big waterfront to stick em on for static display (aka big boat).

Pshh, they're lightweights, at a mere 90ft. Now the maxi-cats from the turn of the century (millennium?) built for The Race - they, my friend, were real monsters.

Mully
15th February 2010, 09:21
Well, Oracle has done it.

Hopefully it'll change back from a two-horse race next time.

And a little less in the courtroom would be nice.

Mikkel
15th February 2010, 12:07
Pshh, they're lightweights, at a mere 90ft. Now the maxi-cats from the turn of the century (millennium?) built for The Race - they, my friend, were real monsters.

They did well in the good old days. Not uncommon for boats above 200 tons to enter the America's cup.

How about the Reliance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliance_(yacht)), the world's biggest racing cutter.

Patrick
15th February 2010, 12:29
Brad Butterworth didn't mince his words afterwards either. It was so one-sided it wasn't even a race!

Look, I'm a fair-minded and impartial man, but I have to admit to being just a wee bit pleased at the result...

Same here. A good result. That euro fella even moaned about the yanks having an advantage in the courts, but he forced the issue in the fist place.


I Think you will find thats up to 30 knots
they do more than 20 upwind

I stayed up and watched
what incredible boats and the result i was hoping for

Typo.... Oops.....

The result put a smile on my face I must admit, lets hope the next one is just as convincing and then this whole bloody farce can be put to bed.
However they are both bloody impressive machines (soon to be dinosaurs) but you'd need a bloody big waterfront to stick em on for static display (aka big boat). Can you imagine them ever being used in anger again after this?

Bring back the one design and full challenger and defender series.

Yeah. Far better than the two show pony court battles and a one sided yacht race........

Edbear
15th February 2010, 12:36
Same here. A good result. That euro fella even moaned about the yanks having an advantage in the courts, but he forced the issue in the fist place.



Typo.... Oops.....


Yeah. Far better than the two show pony court battles and a one sided yacht race........

Seems it needed a one-sided yacht race to get some commonsense back into the mix. I was a bit surprised though at just how one-sided it was! Good on Oracle for making it so emphatic!

Alinghi knew it was all over when they looked back in the first race and saw how quickly Oracle were coming up behind them.

Reminds me of when I was just hitting red-line in third under max acceleration on the old 600GSX-F and an R1 passed me like I was stationary!

Patrick
15th February 2010, 15:53
Seems it needed a one-sided yacht race to get some commonsense back into the mix. I was a bit surprised though at just how one-sided it was! Good on Oracle for making it so emphatic!

True, but Michael FAYE did that once too, and it has been shite ever since..... and didn't he get an arse kicking from Dennis in the mismatch. At least these two boats were kind of the same...... except for the bit where speed counted......

Mully
15th February 2010, 15:58
True, but Michael FAYE did that once too,

*FAY

You're very welcome.

Kiwi Graham
15th February 2010, 16:38
Reminds me of when I was just hitting red-line in third under max acceleration on the old 600GSX-F and an R1 passed me like I was stationary!

Yeah sorry about that ;)

Highlights tonight (for what there worth) SP1 20:00.

Still an impressive sight seeing those machines gliding through the water so efortlessly and then the wider shot showing some big motored RIB flat out trying to keep up.

Edbear
15th February 2010, 21:00
Yeah sorry about that ;)

Highlights tonight (for what there worth) SP1 20:00.

Still an impressive sight seeing those machines gliding through the water so efortlessly and then the wider shot showing some big motored RIB flat out trying to keep up.

So that was you on the Riverhead Road, (going back about to about '05 I think). I'd just left Riverhead back towards Coatesville and was heading up the hill over the bridge overtaking a car and a SUV. I can remember thinking, "Well, I guess 20kg lighter and about twice the horsepower makes quite a difference..."

I wonder what's going to become of the yachts? Not much good for anything really.

Mully
15th February 2010, 21:14
Highlights tonight (for what there worth) SP1 20:00.


Already MySky'd - mainly for watching Bertie losing than anything else.

Mully
15th February 2010, 21:14
Fucking double post.

Pissy-Fuck.