View Full Version : Cairoli takes 350 SX-F to win at Mantova
FlangMasterJ
9th February 2010, 16:20
Sweet!
http://www.adbmag.com/ContentItem.aspx?ContentID=4748
oldguy
9th February 2010, 16:26
I don't think it would of made any differance what bike, he's the man to beat not the bike.
Reckless
9th February 2010, 17:12
I don't think it would of made any differance what bike, he's the man to beat not the bike.
Jeepers your are a hard man oldguy!!
Ktm design a completly new Chassis, Rationalise the over power problem by making a 350, go away from their tradition with a new linkage.
Basically Build a completly new bike with a lighter frame, more traction (usable horsepower), better suspension etc etc etc.
Finally they hire a top 6 rider And they can still get no credit for their effort??
Well we are just going to have to hope Carolli gets injured out of a round or two and see if your right!
noobi
9th February 2010, 17:48
Jeepers your are a hard man oldguy!!
Ktm design a completly new Chassis, Rationalise the over power problem by making a 350, go away from their tradition with a new linkage.
Basically Build a completly new bike with a lighter frame, more traction (usable horsepower), better suspension etc etc etc.
Finally they hire a top 6 rider And they can still get no credit for their effort??
Yea but that's what most bike manufacturers do every few years, Yamaha for example with there backwards 450 is brand new everything, how long before the other brands do a complete overhaul?
And yet not one of those brands dominate any other so much to say that its the bike not the rider.
Its not motox, but take David Knight, won on a KTM, won on the Kawasaki. that guy would ride a wheel barrow faster than most people could ride a new anything
As for the new KTM, its too early to say if its as awesome as the hype, but the bike in MX1 that Cairoli rides will be nothing like the one that you buy from a shop, no bike in MX1 is.
Guess we will just have to wait till it gets used in the US series, as that was why it was made.....
just my 0.02c really
oldguy
9th February 2010, 17:50
Just having a bit of fun mate,
question, why make a 350 any reason being its a 4t
Reckless
9th February 2010, 19:29
Just having a bit of fun mate,
Yeh I bit as well LOL!!!
why make a 350 any reason being its a 4t
From The little I have read and assumed they decided the 450 was over powered and had to be heavy framed to take the power.
The 350 was powerful enough delivering enough tractable power for them to design a chassis that was much lighter. I think was the theory??
Bearing in mind the Husaburg they had been fooling around with had gone from 450 to the new 390 so they had a lot of pro development feedback. I'd guess?
I imagine they decided they could make a faster lighter bike, that could beat the 450's.
After owning the little 2hundy I have I agree with their theory. I can't ride the 200 to its max (although my skills are shocking) and from a study or two they have done ( I keep posting one here done on 07) they may have the decided a good rider is actually faster on a smaller bike than on a biiger one??
Bloody lot of guessing in the above but its good sitting back and seeing if they are correct.
I suppose we should be looking at his team mate or lesser skilled riders to see if the bike does make a difference.
barty5
9th February 2010, 20:04
And how long will it be before you can buy a 450 kit for it just as with all other sizes they 250 are a perfect example of it.
Brian d marge
9th February 2010, 20:07
Mines a five hundred .... You telling me that the Italian cant take the power of a five hundred
Stephen
Ps a big bore 250 was it ?
telliman
9th February 2010, 21:01
sweet!
http://www.adbmag.com/contentitem.aspx?contentid=4748
coppins?????
Reckless
9th February 2010, 21:09
coppins?????
Very good question Telli!!! How the hell could I rant on about the bikes and not see how josh was doing DUH!!!!
No Mention of Josh anywhere?? Can't find any results past 5th either any one else spot anything??
FlangMasterJ
9th February 2010, 23:04
An article on Racerxonline says Coppins didn't ride because of hand tendonitis.
Reckless
10th February 2010, 07:14
An article on Racerxonline says Coppins didn't ride because of hand tendonitis.
Oh shit that doesn't sound good? will that screw his season or is it a one race thiing??
Teava
10th February 2010, 07:31
KTM for the win!!
That is all......
FlangMasterJ
10th February 2010, 08:41
It's only tendonitis. I'm sure a little rehab will have it fixed in a jiffy.
raglanash
10th February 2010, 09:21
Heres the 1 on 1 final, last corner is awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl5vIYzzgCw
FlangMasterJ
10th February 2010, 15:54
Some sweet pics of the 2010 Grand Prix bikes: http://motocrossactionmag.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=news&mod=News&mid=9A02E3B96F2A415ABC72CB5F516B4C10&tier=3&nid=CC177861457A4373BC55853ADE7DD132
FlangMasterJ
11th February 2010, 19:08
Attached is a PDF with specs on each of the bikes and the lucky bastards who pilot them.
The 250SXF is making 42hp, the 450 59hp and the 350 58hp :eek5:
laserracer
11th February 2010, 20:33
thats bloody impressive 58hp from a 350 and the specs quote the weight at 100kg which is dam good because ..but im not sure ..i think the 350 is electric start
takitimu
12th February 2010, 02:52
Yeah electric leg, though that could well be weight neutral assuming lithium ion battery.
oldguy
12th February 2010, 05:52
Heres the 1 on 1 final, last corner is awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl5vIYzzgCw
all it showed was Carioli is a better rider more aggressive.
laserracer
12th February 2010, 05:58
well maybe but he was riding the new ktm sx350 to its first win .... which would have caught peoples attention...cmon all the orange ....how could you miss it
oldguy
12th February 2010, 06:10
well maybe but he was riding the new ktm sx350 to its first win .... which would have caught peoples attention...cmon all the orange ....how could you miss it
If he were on the yamaha, he would have passed him 2 laps earlyer, and made it look convening.
i better get my ass to work, instead of sitting here trying to windup the orange team.
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