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skinny
10th February 2010, 18:29
What is the best type? are they even really worth it or will someone trying to take your bike just take it?

FJRider
10th February 2010, 18:35
Use the steering head lock when you switch it off/park up. Plus a disc/chain lock... both easy to carry.

BUT ... if they want it ...

Locks stop "almost" honest people ...

mattian
10th February 2010, 18:35
What is the best type? are they even really worth it or will someone trying to take your bike just take it?

I used to have a front disc lock. But don't do what I did and try to ride away one day without removing it !!! get one of those fluroscent bungy cords that runs from the lock and wraps around your throttle to remind you its on.

If someone really wants your bike, they will just get a group of guys and lift it onto the back of a Ute and deal with it in a garage. Thankfully however, %90 of thieves are just opportunists and will just keep walking if your bikes locked up. They can't be arsed with the hassle of mucking around too long and getting caught.

skinny
10th February 2010, 18:42
is it worth locking up in a public places for short terms? do people really act that quickly?

trumpy
10th February 2010, 18:43
I have a disk lock with a built in motion sensor alarm, any one tries to move it the thing shrieks like a Banshee. This is also very handy if you forget to remove it before riding away as it will go off as soon as you stand the bike up. Very good so long as you remember to put your side stand back down in your rush to turn the damn thing off................:Oops:

mattian
10th February 2010, 19:12
is it worth locking up in a public places for short terms? do people really act that quickly?
I wouldnt bother if you're not going to be long but, when I had to park my bike all day at the side of the road near work I used the disc lock..... hell, I would even go and check it was still there during my breaks!
For true peace of mind, get yourself full comprehensive insurance. It takes a huge weight off your mind. You may even start wishing someone would nick it so you can buy yourself a newer, cooler bike.

skinny
10th February 2010, 21:25
ive seen those things might have to give one a try. Obviously i would be sensible about where I leave my bike. And yeah that stand thing seems to pop up in a few circumstances.

skinny
10th February 2010, 21:27
and of course we all want a cooler bike ! maybe i should take out insurance and leave it at the flea markets.

Jonno.
10th February 2010, 21:28
If you have a cable on yours and the bike next to it doesn't unless they really want your bike they're probably going to take the easy option.

How much for a motion sensing disk lock?

skinny
10th February 2010, 21:44
think the motion senor disk brake locks are about 75.00

Ratti
16th February 2010, 17:15
Ive got a disk lock WITH a flouro lead that slips over the clutch or brake cable. Its easy to carry. I ALWAYS lock it if Im away from it. Not that anyone would want to steal an elderly, tatty Kwaka, but I have already lost one of these and I aint taking no chances.I like the idea of the alarmed lock. Where would I look for one and what brand name is it so I can make enquiries?

Headbanger
16th February 2010, 18:53
How much for a motion sensing disk lock?

I just purchased a XENA XN-14, 120 Decibels.

$99

Very solid bit of kit.

AJAX
27th February 2010, 09:05
I bought a chain lock for my bike. apparently it's tested to last at least five minutes with someone going at it with a blow torch...not bad i thought! it fits nicely into it's carry pack and i can attach it with its buckles and velcro straps under my pilion seat so that the bag rests on top. i had my first 600 stolen from the 'secure' auckland university carpark up at the hospital. some bastards rode in over the grass with a trailer and put two bikes on the back...one was mine! and yeah...full coverage insurance is a godsend!

I find that the chain lock is wicked as long as there is a convenient, secure post to wrap it around. at least they can't lift the bike up easily!!

rie
27th February 2010, 23:58
park next to a flashier bike.

bike thieves are pretty accustomed to disc locks so they're reasonably easy to get off. Invest in a disc lock with a higher security rating - ie. the lock part will be thicker and stronger. this is not evident by how heavy the actual unit is. you will see a rating out of 10 on the plastic or you will see the part the actually hooks through your disc is a larger diameter.

alarmed disc locks are annoying because it's set off by just about everything. sensitivity controls are extremely rudimentary.

the best thing to do is have at least two DIFFERENT types of locks securing your bike - eg. one disc lock, one chain (chain can loop around a pole on the road OR wrapped around the forks/frame of the bike and looped to a wheel to prevent them from wheeling it away or detaching the wheels). It is useless to have two identical types of security - eg. two disc locks.

if you have the money, get an alarm for $199 - see here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/119532-Gorilla-Cycle-Alarm-only-199-and-works-a-treat?p=1129665445#post1129665445) (although probably not worth it if it's a bandit 250 - more likely vehicles will include bikes that are crashed often that are high in demand for parts). You can uninstall this later and put it on a more valuable bike if you ever get one so might be worth the investment.

p.dath
28th February 2010, 07:23
if you have the money, get an alarm for $199 - see here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/119532-Gorilla-Cycle-Alarm-only-199-and-works-a-treat?p=1129665445#post1129665445) (although probably not worth it if it's a bandit 250 - more likely vehicles will include bikes that are crashed often that are high in demand for parts). You can uninstall this later and put it on a more valuable bike if you ever get one so might be worth the investment.

I had a friend with ana alarm. Complained that if he didn't ride his bike all the time it flattened the battery. I could never just go out on a ride with him. I had to give him a days notice so he could make sure his battery was charged up.

Just get insurance. Countermeasures are not worth the grief.

Flip
28th February 2010, 09:03
I had a friend with ana alarm. Complained that if he didn't ride his bike all the time it flattened the battery. I could never just go out on a ride with him. I had to give him a days notice so he could make sure his battery was charged up.

Just get insurance. Countermeasures are not worth the grief.

I have a bike alarm, and well it does flatten the battery in about 2 weeks. When I am out of town and I am concerned I do sometimes chain the bike to another one, but I do this only if I am concerned about it being nicked.

CookMySock
28th February 2010, 09:18
tested to last at least five minutes with someone going at it with a blow torch...I doubt it. Ever used an oxy-acetylene cutting torch? They don't call it a gas-axe for nothing. Any ferrous metal is toast in seconds, especially some wimpy little chain.

If they are organised enough to get a gas axe, you are screwed. They will get the bike one way or the other.

Steve

Smifffy
28th February 2010, 10:06
I think if a "pro bike thief" wants my bike, chances are pretty good that they will get it. I have a 2.5 m cable & lock that I run through the back wheel, over both saddle bags, thru the 'handles', and thru our helmets.

More than anything it means we can leave the helmets with the bike, without worrying that they'll get bumped off, when the Nannas & poppas crowd around for a perv - alas no gangs of hot chicks have yet crowded the bike for a look.
We generally aren't out of sight of the bike for too long as yet, and so if someone is messing with the cable/lock it'd be fair grounds to wallop them hard, and THEN ask them what they're doing. Leaving it for longer in less salubrious areas I'd just lock it to a post and bring helmets & bags with us.

{.bLanK}G_o_D
28th February 2010, 15:16
If those thieving cunts want it, they will take it no matter what.
Mate of mine told me a story of a guys bike being stolen from a locked garage in front of a parked car.

Mudfart
28th February 2010, 17:40
i think u just gotta be logical about wat ur riding.
if its a 30g harley then u gotta expect attention from gangstas.
if its a rare bike eg/ the new norton commando (not out yet), I would expect to only use it for long leisurely cruises, not for shopping or parking up for long periods.
if you have a garage where you park your bike(s), put a couple of testicle eating dogs in it.
dogs are cool. train them to go for the nuts. its wat theives deserve.

mazz1972
2nd March 2010, 13:01
We bought Xena alarmed disklocks. One kept going off constantly for no reason, even when inside. Ended up taking the batteries out to shut the bloody thing up....still use as a disklock tho as it's very substantial. The other one worked fine but is lost somewhere up in the hills behind Peka Peka.

If out and about during the day I usually just lock the steering. I only put the disklock on if I've going to be far away from my bike for ages.

For an overnight trip we use the disklocks overnight as well as locking the bikes together with an armoured cable.

Security measures are just a deterant. If someone really wants to nick your bike, and they have the time, right tools, and little chance of being seen, they will. That is where insurance comes in. But bike alarms, steering locks, disklocks, chain/cable locks etc, are going to put the opportunist thief off.




I had a friend with ana alarm. Complained that if he didn't ride his bike all the time it flattened the battery. I could never just go out on a ride with him. I had to give him a days notice so he could make sure his battery was charged up.

Just get insurance. Countermeasures are not worth the grief.

Huh? You reckon having your bike nicked wouldn't be upsetting, not to mention inconvenient? Some people would need counselling!!

As for the alarm flattening the battery, sure it will, and the alarm is no use then either. A $90 battery minder (http://www.northern.co.nz/products/168-battery_chargers/2763-oxford_oximiser_900.aspx)does the trick there.

R-Soul
4th March 2010, 16:18
I used to have a front disc lock. But don't do what I did and try to ride away one day without removing it !!! get one of those fluroscent bungy cords that runs from the lock and wraps around your throttle to remind you its on.


Even more convenient, get a smiley face magnet and put it over your key fob to remind you that you have a disk lock on. It conveniently sticks to the tank when you take it off. $2 shop special...

Camshaft
18th January 2011, 10:54
got a disk lok for sale, make an offer