THIS is where our ACC money goes.

[FROSTY]

Today 4.45 pm on henderson Valley road (busy road) I'm strolling back to the yard.I hear a big four stroke trailee heading my way. MX lid,shorts,MX gloves and a fred dagg shirt on. -In defference to "safety" hes wearing knee armour. The bikes a late model trailonly honda--no tail/headlight
Just past me the bars get a tug and the throttle gets the big twist. Bike comes up --and up and over--and OUT skating down the road upside down --rider sliding on his back.
The black shirt has turned to a red shirt. Dunno what the guy was on because he leapt up and ran back to the bike dripping red goop. Kicked it into life and dissapeared back the way he came. The way/place he crashed had traffic both ways stopped.
Yep folks these are the guys our ACC levvies pay for--GREAT INNIT??

[yungatart]

With no taillight or headlight it would not be road legal, therefore probably unregistered too. But goes down as a m/c accident on a public road..

[Mully]

Not unheard of round here, Frosty, unfortunately.

There's a couple of clowns who ride litte "chopper" bikes down the road with no lids, no lights down our end of the road.....

[mashman]

Today 4.45 pm on henderson Valley road (busy road) I'm strolling back to the yard.I hear a big four stroke trailee heading my way. MX lid,shorts,MX gloves and a fred dagg shirt on. -In defference to "safety" hes wearing knee armour. The bikes a late model trailonly honda--no tail/headlight
Just past me the bars get a tug and the throttle gets the big twist. Bike comes up --and up and over--and OUT skating down the road upside down --rider sliding on his back.
The black shirt has turned to a red shirt. Dunno what the guy was on because he leapt up and ran back to the bike dripping red goop. Kicked it into life and dissapeared back the way he came. The way/place he crashed had traffic both ways stopped.
Yep folks these are the guys our ACC levvies pay for--GREAT INNIT??

Did you report it?

[Kickaha]

With no taillight or headlight it would not be road legal, therefore probably unregistered too. But goes down as a m/c accident on a public road..

Only if he actually goes to a Doctor,then chances are he will say he was out trail rinding so it will go down as "A place of recreation"

[riffer]

Yeah but people like this will do stupid stuff anywhere. If we start refusing ACC to people based on whether we approve of their actions we run the risk of going down a dark, dark alley.

If the price to pay for having a comprehensive, no faulty accident compensation cover is that I have to put up with paying for a few oxygen stealing halfwits who can't look after themselves I can live with that.

[YellowDog]

ACC is the best FREE to all private health service in the world!

FREE best qulaity care to anyone from high powered business executives down to complete numpties.

If you think all deserve such high priority no expense spared care; then pay for it and stop moaning.

Hope the little tosser is OK and has learnt something from this adventure.

[CookMySock]

ACC is the best FREE to all private health service in the world!Best free-for-all private health service?

It certainly is a fucking free-for-all innit. Thats gotta change.

Steve

[Pedrostt500]

Yep we have a few Oxygen theives down here who think, like that, the trouble is if he didn't get up and fuck off, some well meaning cager would have rung for a Meat wagon, though it would have given you the opertunity to apply a broken leg to his moronic missery, in helping get the bike off him, of course.

[sosman]

Today 4.45 pm on henderson Valley road (busy road) I'm strolling back to the yard.I hear a big four stroke trailee heading my way. MX lid,shorts,MX gloves and a fred dagg shirt on. -In defference to "safety" hes wearing knee armour. The bikes a late model trailonly honda--no tail/headlight
Just past me the bars get a tug and the throttle gets the big twist. Bike comes up --and up and over--and OUT skating down the road upside down --rider sliding on his back.
The black shirt has turned to a red shirt. Dunno what the guy was on because he leapt up and ran back to the bike dripping red goop. Kicked it into life and dissapeared back the way he came. The way/place he crashed had traffic both ways stopped.
Yep folks these are the guys our ACC levvies pay for--GREAT INNIT??

Yes you are right! I see them every day......... not!

Matter of fact!......I witness you on somone's bmw one thur night ride......& You didn't give way to a certain on comming car that had the right of way on a one lane bridge (old north rd ) & lucky there was just enuff room for the both of ya!....
You could have died Right?
So fark knows what you on about eh!

[FJRider]

Only if he actually goes to a Doctor,then chances are he will say he was out trail rinding so it will go down as "A place of recreation"

I pranged a trail bike a while back ... at acc office ... listed as MOTORCYCLE accident ...

[Kickaha]

I pranged a trail bike a while back ... at acc office ... listed as MOTORCYCLE accident ...

I crashed while racing at Ruapuna in Dec, it was listed as a Motorcycle Accident, "at a place of recreation" by my GP as I askd him how it was recorded as it was just after the whole ACC thing started

Two different areas on the form, one for what type of accident, one for where it happened

He did also say that Doctors hate filling out forms and will take shortcuts if it suits them

[FJRider]

I crashed while racing at Ruapuna in Dec, it was listed as a Motorcycle Accident, "at a place of recreation" by my GP as I askd him how it was recorded as it was just after the whole ACC thing started

Two different areas on the form, one for what type of accident, one for where it happened

He did also say that Doctors hate filling out forms and will take shortcuts if it suits them

place it happened matters little. motorcycle involved ... statistics ... motorcycle accident.

[Kickaha]

place it happened matters little. motorcycle involved ... statistics ... motorcycle accident.

Well no one has ever been able to answer (that I've seen) if that is correct, and whether all motorcycle accidents are lumped together or the onroad is split out from "other places" for the statistics

[Nasty]

I crashed while racing at Ruapuna in Dec, it was listed as a Motorcycle Accident, "at a place of recreation" by my GP as I askd him how it was recorded as it was just after the whole ACC thing started

Two different areas on the form, one for what type of accident, one for where it happened

He did also say that Doctors hate filling out forms and will take shortcuts if it suits them

I was speaking with Clivoris after his accident - when racing ... and it was easily recorded properly as a sporting injury.

[Big Dave]

I reckon in non KB space everyone went either; That was cool, that was funny, what a dickhead or he was lucky.
On here it's complain about taxes. :-P

[T.W.R]

Yep folks these are the guys our ACC levvies pay for--GREAT INNIT??

One of the local twits down here that's been making a lot of noise about the ACC campaign almost fits into the same catagory:

posts plenty of bollocks of how much their doing towards the campaign yet regular as clockwork travels up & down a main bypass road on the southern outskirts of ChCh tailgating cars, no indication at one particular roundabout, trying to make his metal lump make as much noise as possible, and to cap it off the attire consists of a piss-bowl helmet, either fingerless or no gloves, a pair of beach shorts & some vest of some discription flapping around in the breeze like a half torn sail; the safest thing worn is a pair of slip-on work boots.
An accident waiting to happen and one day it will....... a perfect case of do as I say not as I do :oi-grr:

[McJim]

A good reason to abolish ACC altogether and have free medical paid for out of Central government coffers like they do in Blighty methinks.

[FROSTY]

GEE dude get it right. It was My FJR1300. I was wearing correct gear and wasn't speeding.No I diddn't see the car till committed to going on the bridge. so yes I made a mistake. If you can't tell the difference I feel sorry for you.

[freedom-wedge]

Yeah but people like this will do stupid stuff anywhere. If we start refusing ACC to people based on whether we approve of their actions we run the risk of going down a dark, dark alley.

If the price to pay for having a comprehensive, no faulty accident compensation cover is that I have to put up with paying for a few oxygen stealing halfwits who can't look after themselves I can live with that.

I do like your ballanced approach to the issue, its quite right

[PeeJay]

GEE dude get it right. It was My FJR1300. I was wearing correct gear and wasn't speeding.No I diddn't see the car till committed to going on the bridge. so yes I made a mistake. If you can't tell the difference I feel sorry for you.

No more of a "mistake" than some doofus riding on one wheel.
The only difference being he fell off and you werent squashed by a car. Could of easily been around th other way

"I didnt see the car" is an even more pathetic excuse than "I didnt see the bike"

Not having a go at you pal, you are big enough to admit your scewup, but this does show that "not seeing" can happen to anyone who isnt looking.
Red mist?

[FROSTY]

Nahh it was a dumber mistake than that to be totally honest. Where it happened and how it happened meant you genuinely can't see oncomeing cars.(-unless you have xray vision) Trucks you can and 4x4's, but not cars. UNLESS you slow and pull left -or even just pull left for a looksee. --Its just the nature of the bridge and bridge aproach -worse at a certain time of the evening My mistake was that I knew that was the case and committed to riding onto the bridge anyways. It was a bad call.
Isn't it though the very reason we wear decent gear ?I've never met a rider that hasn't made a mistake. What a rider has done before doing so,the training they've had,the gear they wear pays off in that moment. An accident becomes an incident.
Not intending to sound egotistical (sorry if It does) but the case in point being what happened to me. -I made a mistake -I was on a one lane bridge with a car (I unquestionably had stuffed it up) I made a decision and found the only possible escape route. Without a moments hesitation I can say that without the rider training I've been lucky enough to have had the outcome would have been different.
In the case of the person in the OP he was really loading the dice against himself. No real riding gear,deliberate decision to wheelie,insufficient training on how to do a wheelie properly etc
Without even goiung into the whole-why was a non road legal bike on the road anyways.

[avgas]

Did he wave frosty?

[The Everlasting]

That's another one we gotta fork out for!! :angry:


Probably pays no registration for anything either.

[Pedrostt500]

Heres a thought, When these Oxegen Theves are caught riding their Un-regitered Unwaranted Mud Chuckers on the Road / Street, they should be fined a Years Registration, for CC rating respective, payable to ACC, even if their getting caught is because they splattered themselves over the Black Top.

[Ratti]

Seeing this type of rider is 'nuff to make you cringe

I've got to confess I've done the same thing tho'. In fact the worst damage I ever did to myself was falling off a ct90 on gravel in my own driveway. Was wearing jeans, sneakers and a sleeveless top at the time. Certainly taught me a thing or two.
May be that the off did the rider a good turn by causing maximum pain with minimum damage to himself or to others

[Hopeful Bastard]

Saw a guy on a little bike today.. Couldnt tell you what kind it was.. But it was a Honda. Had a front setup similar to this push bike from the pedals forward..

http://www.goodcleantech.com/images/A2B%20electric%20bike.jpg

But it was Moterised.. Heading south from Waikanae.. Only a helmet. No gloves. Shorts and a jumper. Oh, Cant forget the shoes. He had them on.. But it was moving bout 60/70 k's and it definately wasnt a younger person. Going on the clothes and the tone of the skin, I'd say he was in his late 30's, Early 40's..

Back end looked Similar to this one.. http://image.ec21.com/image/honda/oimg_GC00056007/motorcycle_HONDA_Dream_125_%28_Thailand_%29.jpg

[crazyhorse]

Probably a stolen bike too

I renewed my licence yesterday - cost 321 and 255 of that was ACC. Feel sorry for all those who get the new rego cost, for me it'll be a year away ....does anyone know when exactly it comes into force?

[Leseid]

....does anyone know when exactly it comes into force?
I'm not sure, but my rego is for $321.24 and that seems a little steep compared with the car rego. I get the feeling it's already gone up, ACC levys are probably one of those things the government can adjust as soon as it likes.

I've seen a few teenagers riding small motorcross bikes around in Khandallah of all places, just in shorts and a T shirt. I think American motorcycling culture has a lot to do with it, young impressionable teenagers watching poser videos of American riding in just shorts and T shirts.
You don't see many videos of them crashing and bleeding in serious pain, just the glamour videos.

[crazyhorse]

I'm not sure, but my rego is for $321.24 and that seems a little steep compared with the car rego. I get the feeling it's already gone up, ACC levys are probably one of those things the government can adjust as soon as it likes.



Nope, it was $321.24 a year ago too. Just found last years rego form

[oldrider]

ACC is the best FREE to all private health service in the world!

FREE best qulaity care to anyone from high powered business executives down to complete numpties.

If you think all deserve such high priority no expense spared care; then pay for it and stop moaning.

Hope the little tosser is OK and has learnt something from this adventure.

ACC has never ever claimed to be "free"!

Anything that is claimed to be free simply means "someone else is paying"!

The worst aspect of ACC is the fact that it is a "State monopoly" and as such it will always be subject to political tinkering and user (client) abuse!

Under the Woodhouse guidelines ACC could still provide a satisfactory service but that is probably not possible with MMP politicians self selecting a lotto government out of the election result! (pseudo democracy, NZ style)

Maybe if STV is selected to replace MMP there may be a tiny wee smidgeon of accountability introduced into parliament but don't hold your breath on that one either!

ACC is not free and aint it damn well cheap either, it's also Hobson's choice, take it or leave it.

But, alternative insurance was not there for us before ACC and they wont be there for us after ACC, so our best bet is stay with ACC and "make" the politicians return to it's foundation (Woodhouse) principals!

They are supposed to work for "us" but MMP lets them select themselves to govern and do what they bloody well like!

Be careful what you vote for, you just might get it! :brick: