MNZ annouces new Road Race Commission

[slowpoke]

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MNZ annouces new Road Race Commission

Road Racing moves into an exciting ‘New’ phase with the appointment of a Chairman led Road Race Commission to over see all aspects of road racing , including the National series.

In order to give the ‘Sport’ the benefit of a wide range of experience and knowledge and continue moving the ‘Sport’ forward.

The MNZ Board has appointed the following Commission members

They are:



Peter Ramage (Chairman) Invercargill.

Neil Smith Blenhiem.

Ian Dawson Wellington .

Brian Bernard Wanganui.

Maarty Van Booma Hawkes Bay .



All five have been involved with Road Racing for a considerable period of time and all are still involved today.They cover both Islands.

Each brings different skills to the table and they have all been or are competitors at National level and all have the passion to move Road Racing to the next level.

“The Board is very happy with the new move and are confident this group will continue the excellent work done by Paul Stewart,” said MNZ President Jim Tuckerman from his Auckland base this week.

[Billy]

Pinched from the handy www.nzsbk.co.nz website:



MNZ annouces new Road Race Commission

Road Racing moves into an exciting ‘New’ phase with the appointment of a Chairman led Road Race Commission to over see all aspects of road racing , including the National series.

In order to give the ‘Sport’ the benefit of a wide range of experience and knowledge and continue moving the ‘Sport’ forward.

The MNZ Board has appointed the following Commission members

They are:



Peter Ramage (Chairman) Invercargill.

Neil Smith Blenhiem.

Ian Dawson Wellington .

Brian Bernard Wanganui.

Maarty Van Booma Hawkes Bay .



All five have been involved with Road Racing for a considerable period of time and all are still involved today.They cover both Islands.

Each brings different skills to the table and they have all been or are competitors at National level and all have the passion to move Road Racing to the next level.

“The Board is very happy with the new move and are confident this group will continue the excellent work done by Paul Stewart,” said MNZ President Jim Tuckerman from his Auckland base this week.

Awesome,Know them all really well . They are all very experienced and have had recent discussions with most of them.They have some very good ideas,Will MNZ listen too them in full or just pick out the bits they want too hear and do what they want regardless ???

[Kickaha]

Awesome,Know them all really well . They are all very experienced and have had recent discussions with most of them.They have some very good ideas,Will MNZ listen too them in full or just pick out the bits they want too hear and do what they want regardless ???

Probably the latter :lol:

[SWERVE]

A good choice of members with a lot of "years" between them and a lot of hands on experience. I wish them all the best and hope they can "shake it up"

[slowpoke]

Awesome,Know them all really well . They are all very experienced and have had recent discussions with most of them.They have some very good ideas,Will MNZ listen too them in full or just pick out the bits they want too hear and do what they want regardless ???

I think MNZ will be pretty happy to let someone pick up the ball and run with it, especially with a few people to carry the load. Gotta be good to have a few folks spread around picking up and presenting different ideas too.

[ajturbo]

i am very interested to see how this goes..!!!

let hope for the best eh...

like
dedicated racer education track times
graduated licences
exams

[fossil]

Awesome,Know them all really well . They are all very experienced and have had recent discussions with most of them.They have some very good ideas,Will MNZ listen too them in full or just pick out the bits they want too hear and do what they want regardless ???

Who do you mean by "MNZ"? The Commissioner(s) run the sport (in every discipline). Obviously there are budgets etc but if the Commission wants changes they put them forward to the Board of MNZ for discussion and ratification.

[Billy]

Who do you mean by "MNZ"? The Commissioner(s) run the sport (in every discipline). Obviously there are budgets etc but if the Commission wants changes they put them forward to the Board of MNZ for discussion and ratification.

There you go,youve answered you own Question then,The Board

As I understood there was no roadrace commissoner as such,As the incumbent and only nomination had withdrawn their nomination pre the AGM ???

[steveyb]

Maarty van Booma??????
Shit, there goes 125GP racing. He would like nothing more than to see the end of it!!!
Ian Dawson????
I heard the older he gets the faster he was!!

Two snaps up!!

[Billy]

Maarty van Booma??????
Shit, there goes 125GP racing. He would like nothing more than to see the end of it!!!
Ian Dawson????
I heard the older he gets the faster he was!!

Two snaps up!!

Fuck yeah!And dont get me started on Bernard,There goes the Ohlins suspension and Smudger and Budda think everybody north of Picton are just" PIG "Islanders

Jeez and I thought we were fucked when it was just Tuckerman in charge Bwahahahahahahaha

[Kickaha]

Smudger and Budda think everybody north of Picton are just" PIG "Islanders

It's not just those two who think that


Jeez and I thought we were fucked when it was just Tuckerman in charge Bwahahahahahahaha

Careful, you'll be getting a warning about the MNZ code of conduct
(xii) Any act which is likely to diminish the good reputation of MNZ, its members (including any club), Officers, staff, or other officials :bleh:

[Billy]

Careful, you'll be getting a warning about the MNZ code of conduct
(xii) Any act which is likely to diminish the good reputation of MNZ, its members (including any club), Officers, staff, or other officials :bleh:
Yeah,But dont you have too be a licence holder IE member before they can warn you

[wharfy]

Yeah,But dont you have too be a licence holder IE member before they can warn you

Yes indeed -

[Robert Taylor]

Fuck yeah!And dont get me started on Bernard,There goes the Ohlins suspension and Smudger and Budda think everybody north of Picton are just" PIG "Islanders

Jeez and I thought we were fucked when it was just Tuckerman in charge Bwahahahahahahaha

Not without a fight, anyone that thinks in 2010 and beyond that you can run with standard suspensionon 600 and 1000cc bikes and not have tyre and fade issues on our wide disparity of tracks has got rocks in their head. It is also third world mentality and out of step with other developed countries, including our dingo mates.

[Robert Taylor]

Fuck yeah!And dont get me started on Bernard,There goes the Ohlins suspension and Smudger and Budda think everybody north of Picton are just" PIG "Islanders

Jeez and I thought we were fucked when it was just Tuckerman in charge Bwahahahahahahaha

I love your work Billy and know how youve been ground into the carpet by people you have done a lot of work for at mates rates or much less, its all too common.

[Robert Taylor]

Pinched from the handy www.nzsbk.co.nz website:



MNZ annouces new Road Race Commission

Road Racing moves into an exciting ‘New’ phase with the appointment of a Chairman led Road Race Commission to over see all aspects of road racing , including the National series.

In order to give the ‘Sport’ the benefit of a wide range of experience and knowledge and continue moving the ‘Sport’ forward.

The MNZ Board has appointed the following Commission members

They are:



Peter Ramage (Chairman) Invercargill.

Neil Smith Blenhiem.

Ian Dawson Wellington .

Brian Bernard Wanganui.

Maarty Van Booma Hawkes Bay .



All five have been involved with Road Racing for a considerable period of time and all are still involved today.They cover both Islands.

Each brings different skills to the table and they have all been or are competitors at National level and all have the passion to move Road Racing to the next level.

“The Board is very happy with the new move and are confident this group will continue the excellent work done by Paul Stewart,” said MNZ President Jim Tuckerman from his Auckland base this week.

There are some good people there BUT where is the distributor and industry representation?????!!!!!!. Two groupings that historically put a LOT of money into the sport..................

[FROSTY]

There are some good people there BUT where is the distributor and industry representation?????!!!!!!. Two groupings that historically put a LOT of money into the sport..................
Why do you feel industry needs/should be on that board Robert?
Given the people who are on it I strongly suspect industry will be consulted/involved.
I would also like to suggest that by industry NOT being directly involved the suggestion from some quarters that some class rules were created specifically to support industry can be stopped in its tracks.

[Pussy]

I reckon it's about time some people were recognised, Frosty.
I wonder how many people really appreciate what Tom Peck has done for motorcycle racing in NZ?
Tom's passion has been behind a lot of Suzuki's involvement... SNZ wouldn't be seeing a return on what they've put in... certainly not financially.

So... take a bow, Mr Peck, and SNZ

Like it or not, the industry needs representation

[codgyoleracer]

Theres some pretty wise heads there - and they know what makes the industry and riders tick, - I'me sure there will be some interesting ideas tabled.

Heres a couple to consider for the nats, to combat cost control & competitor numbers
1) Combine rounds with other major meetings (e.g 1st round coincides with 1st round of Tri--Series, Burt Munro event coincides with round down south (shift of date for the Burt though), 3rd round combines 1st round of Vic series, last round combines last round of Auckland club series etc.
2) Run a "South Island" and "North Island" cup, as part of the series
3) Run a 'double header" meeting , where over a three day weekend you run two points rounds
4) Run two rounds only in both islands (preferably a weekend after each other in each island)
5) Control tyres , or tyre limitation rules............... ;-)......... OMG , i can see the feedback on that one already..............

Food for thought - I,me sure there are plenty of other ideas out there........
Glen Williams

[Tony.OK]

There are some good people there BUT where is the distributor and industry representation?????!!!!!!. Two groupings that historically put a LOT of money into the sport..................

Did they volunteer I wonder?

Would it not be a conflict of interest in having distributors/suppliers on the commission?

I do agree that all supporters of road racing should be given huge kudo's, which was lacking last year, but being part of the commission could be seen as feathering ones own nest perhaps?

[jellywrestler]

Would it not be a conflict of interest in having distributors/suppliers on the commission?

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It could be seen as a conflict of interest but i'm sure if there were any sign of this sort of behaviour it would come to a point real smart.
Paul Stewart, the recent road race commissioner, does his day job for honda and is a motorcycle nut, he's put in immense hours over the years and its no secret where he works, who in the race scene he's related to and has the balls, makes the time and is at the meetings so anyone can talk to him.
Where else are we going to get people for these jobs that someone won't link up with the industry??

[Shaun P]

Theres some pretty wise heads there - and they know what makes the industry and riders tick, - I'me sure there will be some interesting ideas tabled.

Heres a couple to consider for the nats, to combat cost control & competitor numbers
1) Combine rounds with other major meetings (e.g 1st round coincides with 1st round of Tri--Series, Burt Munro event coincides with round down south (shift of date for the Burt though), 3rd round combines 1st round of Vic series, last round combines last round of Auckland club series etc.
2) Run a "South Island" and "North Island" cup, as part of the series
3) Run a 'double header" meeting , where over a three day weekend you run two points rounds
4) Run two rounds only in both islands (preferably a weekend after each other in each island)
5) Control tyres , or tyre limitation rules............... ;-)......... OMG , i can see the feedback on that one already..............

Food for thought - I,me sure there are plenty of other ideas out there........
Glen Williams

Bang on Glen!

[Tony.OK]

It could be seen as a conflict of interest but i'm sure if there were any sign of this sort of behaviour it would come to a point real smart.
Paul Stewart works for honda and is a motorcycle nut, he's put in immense hours over the years and its no secret where he works, who in the race scene he's related to and has the balls, makes the time and is at the meetings so anyone can talk to him.
Where else are we going to get people for these jobs that someone won't link up with the industry??

I completely agree with you, Paul has done an outstanding job with little in the way of recognition. Although he was not there as a Honda representative was he?

What would happen if say someone from Nationwide for eg was on the commission, and a suggestion for a control tyre came about, can of worms?

I've prob worded it badly but think a person should be there for who they are rather that where they work or what they sell........does that make more sense?

[steveyb]

...What would happen if say someone from Nationwide for eg was on the commission, and a suggestion for a control tyre came about, can of worms?...

Hahahahahaha!
I hope you meant to be ironic!!

[jellywrestler]

Paul has done an outstanding job with little in the way of recognition. Although he was not there as a Honda representative was he?
Sorry, I should have worded it better, paul was the last road race commissioner and works for honda as his day job, have changed my post to read betterer

[racer40]

Great ideas Glen

[Robert Taylor]

Theres some pretty wise heads there - and they know what makes the industry and riders tick, - I'me sure there will be some interesting ideas tabled.

Heres a couple to consider for the nats, to combat cost control & competitor numbers
1) Combine rounds with other major meetings (e.g 1st round coincides with 1st round of Tri--Series, Burt Munro event coincides with round down south (shift of date for the Burt though), 3rd round combines 1st round of Vic series, last round combines last round of Auckland club series etc.
2) Run a "South Island" and "North Island" cup, as part of the series
3) Run a 'double header" meeting , where over a three day weekend you run two points rounds
4) Run two rounds only in both islands (preferably a weekend after each other in each island)
5) Control tyres , or tyre limitation rules............... ;-)......... OMG , i can see the feedback on that one already..............

Food for thought - I,me sure there are plenty of other ideas out there........
Glen Williams

Some of those ideas are very good Glenn and there have of course already been mutterings about the Burt Munro meeting being combined with the Invergiggles round of the Nats. Its not so much the cpost of the machines, 40 modified 600 / Formula 2 class machines on the grid at one of the VMCC rounds attests to that. Its about the cost of getting to and from, accomodation etc.

[Robert Taylor]

It could be seen as a conflict of interest but i'm sure if there were any sign of this sort of behaviour it would come to a point real smart.
Paul Stewart, the recent road race commissioner, does his day job for honda and is a motorcycle nut, he's put in immense hours over the years and its no secret where he works, who in the race scene he's related to and has the balls, makes the time and is at the meetings so anyone can talk to him.
Where else are we going to get people for these jobs that someone won't link up with the industry??

A true gentleman who was also capable of making decisions. Not once repeat NOT ONCE did he make a decision that could be called a vested interest. His son in law is Ray Clee the WP distributor and Pauls day job is to work for Honda. If he had vested interests he would have pushed the Honda barrow and would have pushed his employers and anyone who listened to fit WP suspension. Wp is a great product and I also have a lot of time for Ray Clee as he is also a gentleman and in a world of suspension that often breeds enormous egos / dirty dealings Ray plays it straight and honest with no BS.

[Robert Taylor]

Did they volunteer I wonder?

Would it not be a conflict of interest in having distributors/suppliers on the commission?

I do agree that all supporters of road racing should be given huge kudo's, which was lacking last year, but being part of the commission could be seen as feathering ones own nest perhaps?

No I disagree that it would be a conflict of interest. Historically distributor representatives that have ended up on such commitees etc have represented the interests of the distributors at large or at least those that are interested and involved in road racing.
Over the last few decades many riders careers would have stalled as would have the formation of teams hadnt it been for the considerable sums of money put up by distributors, one in particular, Suzuki NZ.
I HOPE EVERYONE REMEMBERS THAT, if we hadnt had their involvement over the years we would be in a very sorry state.
The members of this committee must consult with key players from the industry. As one of those myself who has put in a lot of effort over the years ( much of it non profitable ) Ill be very offended if Im not consulted.
Without industry support, industry money and help road racing is nowhere in NZ.

[Sketchy_Racer]

I reckon it's about time some people were recognised, Frosty.
I wonder how many people really appreciate what Tom Peck has done for motorcycle racing in NZ?
Tom's passion has been behind a lot of Suzuki's involvement... SNZ wouldn't be seeing a return on what they've put in... certainly not financially.

So... take a bow, Mr Peck, and SNZ

Like it or not, the industry needs representation

Could not agree more with that!! The support Suzuki has puts into our sport is phenomenal and I dare suggest a their level of support is a great deal more than a lot of people might know!

[roadracingoldfart]

Theres some pretty wise heads there - and they know what makes the industry and riders tick, - I'me sure there will be some interesting ideas tabled.

Heres a couple to consider for the nats, to combat cost control & competitor numbers
1) Combine rounds with other major meetings (e.g 1st round coincides with 1st round of Tri--Series, Burt Munro event coincides with round down south (shift of date for the Burt though), 3rd round combines 1st round of Vic series, last round combines last round of Auckland club series etc.
2) Run a "South Island" and "North Island" cup, as part of the series
3) Run a 'double header" meeting , where over a three day weekend you run two points rounds
4) Run two rounds only in both islands (preferably a weekend after each other in each island)
5) Control tyres , or tyre limitation rules............... ;-)......... OMG , i can see the feedback on that one already..............

Food for thought - I,me sure there are plenty of other ideas out there........
Glen Williams


I already suggested very similar to that idea Glen,
If i did it proper , heres the link...... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/93661-Just-a-thought

[ajturbo]

5) Control tyres , or tyre limitation rules............... ;-)......... OMG , i can see the feedback on that one already..............

Food for thought - I,me sure there are plenty of other ideas out there........
Glen Williams

yeah... i r reckon they could only use "conti GO" and only one set per round...

[Billy]

I love your work Billy and know how youve been ground into the carpet by people you have done a lot of work for at mates rates or much less, its all too common.

Yes it would appear on the surface your right,But I put myself in that position for the betterment of the sport,A classic example of which happened at the National points round at Manfeild last year,When I offered my services as assisstant Clerk of the course as I knew the club was shortstaffed following the loss of Brett(Grub).On the Sunday night at prizegiving the late Shirley McNabb handed me an envelope.When I asked her what was in it,She replied that they were paying the volunteers.My reply was"I dont help out for money,I do it for the sport,However if you insist on paying me Ill send you an invoice,But be aware my charge out rate is $70.00 an hour,At which point we both laughed and walked away.The point being I do what I do because I can and when I think things are going pearshaped or the deal is souring I move on.I hold no malice towards anybody I have been involved with and wish all of them the best in their endeavours.It appears there are two factions of people helping within our sport,1 Those who do it because they want too see the sport move forward and dont consider personal cost,2 The people who want to have input,But at best wont allow it to cost them financially and/or are there partly too help line their own pockets.After close to 40 years involvement,I feel I know whos who and what their agendas are.Whatever happens will have no bearing on my influence,I will continue helping the people I think need and deserve it and when I do finally walk away from the sport,My conscience will be clear.

Im also sure you and many others have suffered the same fate,Thats just how it is in this sport and The people I feel for are the newbies trying to secure sponsorship

[roadracingoldfart]

Im also sure you and many others have suffered the same fate,Thats just how it is in this sport and The people I feel for are the newbies trying to secure sponsorship


Hell i know where your coming from Billy , i have the same aims and the newer the better to gain my assistance. Ohh and Steevie :weep: (hes a special case ) :wacko::bash:

[gixerracer]

you been sniffing them paint fumes again billy you actually make some sence
Yes it would appear on the surface your right,But I put myself in that position for the betterment of the sport,A classic example of which happened at the National points round at Manfeild last year,When I offered my services as assisstant Clerk of the course as I knew the club was shortstaffed following the loss of Brett(Grub).On the Sunday night at prizegiving the late Shirley McNabb handed me an envelope.When I asked her what was in it,She replied that they were paying the volunteers.My reply was"I dont help out for money,I do it for the sport,However if you insist on paying me Ill send you an invoice,But be aware my charge out rate is $70.00 an hour,At which point we both laughed and walked away.The point being I do what I do because I can and when I think things are going pearshaped or the deal is souring I move on.I hold no malice towards anybody I have been involved with and wish all of them the best in their endeavours.It appears there are two factions of people helping within our sport,1 Those who do it because they want too see the sport move forward and dont consider personal cost,2 The people who want to have input,But at best wont allow it to cost them financially and/or are there partly too help line their own pockets.After close to 40 years involvement,I feel I know whos who and what their agendas are.Whatever happens will have no bearing on my influence,I will continue helping the people I think need and deserve it and when I do finally walk away from the sport,My conscience will be clear.

Im also sure you and many others have suffered the same fate,Thats just how it is in this sport and The people I feel for are the newbies trying to secure sponsorship

[wharfy]

Yes it would appear on the surface your right,But I put myself in that position for the betterment of the sport,A classic example of which happened at the National points round at Manfeild last year,When I offered my services as assisstant Clerk of the course as I knew the club was shortstaffed following the loss of Brett(Grub).On the Sunday night at prizegiving the late Shirley McNabb handed me an envelope.When I asked her what was in it,She replied that they were paying the volunteers.My reply was"I dont help out for money,I do it for the sport,However if you insist on paying me Ill send you an invoice,But be aware my charge out rate is $70.00 an hour,At which point we both laughed and walked away.

Giving the volunteers lunch and some petrol money is the least we can do, there would not be much racing without them. :clap:

[yungatart]

Giving the volunteers lunch and some petrol money is the least we can do, there would not be much racing without them. :clap:

Exactly...and, it is not payment as such, but rather reimbursement towards some of our costs.

[Billy]

Giving the volunteers lunch and some petrol money is the least we can do, there would not be much racing without them. :clap:

Absolutely,In fact it was me that first started paying the flag marshalls,When I ran the winter series back in 94,It caused a lot of controversy at the time,I immediately had calls from Tim Gibbes and Rob Lester(Manfeild promotions)informing me "you cant start paying the flag marshalls or we will have too as well"Funny how its OK to pay Tim to lapscore nowdays aye???But thats a whole other story.The point was,Not everybody wants or needs to be reimbursed,Some people do it too improve the sport cause they want to.

Incidently,Volunteers are unpaid !!