Could not believe our ears!

[nudemetalz]

So here's the 3 of us (new baby Caleb in his capsule included) are out at Porirua Shopping Centre out to get some baby clothes. Before we venture into a shop outside in the carpark, we see a mother and son who's about 7-8 years old. Next thing we hear him screaming at his Mum (who's of the, shall we say, "lower class" origin !!) and I virtually quote "I don't want to go into the fucking shop. Take me fucking home right now. I want a fucking ice-cream !!"
Our jaws dropped in amazement that a kid so young could be so fluent in profanity !!!
The "mother" just shrugged it off....

Sheez,..when I was young, if I said even "bloody" then I got belted hard so I knew not to do it and have respect around my parents. This kid had none whatsoever. Obviously what he's used to hearing around the so-called household....

[mashman]

heh, yup almost every time i'm out i hear the same thing... the last one was a paknsave, Porirua... was sitting waiting for the wife to come back with the foooood and saw the man, his missus and their 4-5 year old boy... they got to the car, she opened the door and he ordered, "get in the fuckin car ya little bastard"... hmmmm... i've recently been talkin to my eldeset about the word piss! she heard a kid at school, again, another fluent in profanity...

Tis fucked up Nudes... some parents just accept it as the language of the day... i'm half inclined to agree with them, after all it's just words... and who is it really offending? I dunno, like i say i'm half and half on that, but hear it, at least once, whenever i'm out...

[Bounce001]

It's called 'the dumbing down of society'.

Meatheads breeding meatheads.

[Pussy]

But did the kid get his icecream??

[Ronin]

heh, yup almost every time i'm out i hear the same thing... the last one was a paknsave, Porirua... was sitting waiting for the wife to come back with the foooood and saw the man, his missus and their 4-5 year old boy... they got to the car, she opened the door and he ordered, "get in the fuckin car ya little bastard"... hmmmm... i've recently been talkin to my eldeset about the word piss! she heard a kid at school, again, another fluent in profanity...

Tis fucked up Nudes... some parents just accept it as the language of the day... i'm half inclined to agree with them, after all it's just words... and who is it really offending? I dunno, like i say i'm half and half on that, but hear it, at least once, whenever i'm out...

Well yeah, they are just words and it is easy or easier to think I should just ignore them. My 11 year old boy has a bit of a potty mouth (takes after his Mum) and while he may swear I make the effort to at least teach him when it is appropriate and not. For instance if he tried the above example then Sue Bradford would have me in jail.

It's about respect, me for him and he for those around him.

[Ronin]

But did the kid get his icecream??

The sad thing is that he probably did.

[nudemetalz]

I dunno, Pussy....got Caleb out of hearing range very quickly !! ;)

[firefighter]

So here's the 3 of us (new baby Caleb in his capsule included) are out at Porirua Shopping Centre out to get some baby clothes. Before we venture into a shop outside in the carpark, we see a mother and son who's about 7-8 years old. Next thing we hear him screaming at his Mum (who's of the, shall we say, "lower class" origin !!) and I virtually quote "I don't want to go into the fucking shop. Take me fucking home right now. I want a fucking ice-cream !!"
Our jaws dropped in amazement that a kid so young could be so fluent in profanity !!!
The "mother" just shrugged it off....

Sheez,..when I was young, if I said even "bloody" then I got belted hard so I knew not to do it and have respect around my parents. This kid had none whatsoever. Obviously what he's used to hearing around the so-called household....

Dunno if you've read any of the threads about my last HNZC neighbours that I had removed (made me the neighbourhood hero lol, 3 months after I moved in they were kicked out!)

Part of the complaints I had about them was to CYFS. I caught on video camera, a 3 year old girl, thrown onto the deck, and screamed right up close in her face by the big black bitch person in charge of her (she was no mother) "you are a fucking piece of shit, you fucken discusting motherfucker". Including the parties, foul language, and abuse, CYFS were more interested in profiling me the quiet professional with no criminal record. That was only one minor thing I saw happen to those kids.

Those kids have no chance. So much for putting a HNZC house in working class areas to avoid creating bronx's everywhere. They just ruin a whole neighbourhood that they're moved into.

So, it is probably got a lot to do with the parents.



It's called 'the dumbing down of society'.

Meatheads breeding meatheads.

Exactly. Does'nt matter what area they're in, they'll imitate their parents. (the bad stuff they see anyhow)

[Headbanger]

That fucking bitch better have got him his fucking ice-cream, for fucks sake.

Fuckity fuck fuck.

[YellowDog]

I do swear quite a lot myself but usually when out of earshot. I do think about my Dad using phrases like "well blow me down" or "Blow that for a game of soldiers" and laugh. But to his it was the same as FFS or similar.

It is an unfortunate sign of the times and I do hate it when some see fit to swear at full volume infront of others, particularly in front of children.

Before Christmas I swore badly after banging my head whilst working in my garage. Realising that my neighbour was ony a few metres away I went over to his house to apologies. He seemed to be ignoring me so I went off and assumed that I had really offended him. A week later we were both putting out the bins at the same time so I raised the issue. Again he ignored me, which I found to be very rude. So I went right up to his face and said "Can tyou not hear what I am saying?" to which he replied:
"You'll have to speak up, I only wear my hearing aids for work".

[sunhuntin]

had a kid in at work a few months back. she was kicking up one hell of a stink about not getting something. mother dragged her out of the shop, and i could hear the kid out on the street screeching "i want itttttttt!!!!!!!!!!" took me a while to place where i "knew" the kid from... veruca salt from willy wonka. felt so sorry for the mother, but its probably her own doing.

personally, i dont swear to badly in front of my brothers kids... usually no worse than bloody hell. certainly not fuck or cunt, though they hear it from their parents anyway. been raised better than that. my parents swore in front of us, but never the two words mentioned.

[IdunBrokdItAgin]

I was always taught as a kid that using swear words only showed a lack of vocabulary.

People who swear when there is no need are really just showing themselves as being a bit dumb.

I swear when appropriate. If you swear all the time then it detracts from the times when swearing is really called for.

[Winston001]

Tis fucked up Nudes... some parents just accept it as the language of the day... i'm half inclined to agree with them, after all it's just words... and who is it really offending? I dunno, like i say i'm half and half on that....

But it isn't just words. We communicate with each other using language. The particular words we choose are important and convey different meanings. Profane swear words are perfectly valid and exist to emphasise an experience or thought. However for them to retain effect, they are used sparingly so they have a shock value.

Saying about a meal "I don't like this shit" doesn't tell us anything. Its a shock word but empty of meaning. Sadly many people don't have descriptive words in their minds so they go for "shit". I abhor this.

Profanity is also violent language. It is used to put other people down, to be insulting. As such it should only be used when necessary.

[Headbanger]

Just shows you how versatile shit and fuck are. Personally If someone tells me a meal was shit then that conveys everything I need to know.

[Edbear]

Dunno if you've read any of the threads about my last HNZC neighbours that I had removed (made me the neighbourhood hero lol, 3 months after I moved in they were kicked out!)

Part of the complaints I had about them was to CYFS. I caught on video camera, a 3 year old girl, thrown onto the deck, and screamed right up close in her face by the big black bitch person in charge of her (she was no mother) "you are a fucking piece of shit, you fucken discusting motherfucker". Including the parties, foul language, and abuse, CYFS were more interested in profiling me the quiet professional with no criminal record. That was only one minor thing I saw happen to those kids.

Those kids have no chance. So much for putting a HNZC house in working class areas to avoid creating bronx's everywhere. They just ruin a whole neighbourhood that they're moved into.

So, it is probably got a lot to do with the parents.



Exactly. Does'nt matter what area they're in, they'll imitate their parents. (the bad stuff they see anyhow)

I think that qualifies as an understatement...


I was always taught as a kid that using swear words only showed a lack of vocabulary.

People who swear when there is no need are really just showing themselves as being a bit dumb.

I swear when appropriate. If you swear all the time then it detracts from the times when swearing is really called for.

Like when you hit your thumb with the hammer? Or for my wife recently when son-in-law backed a trailer into our bike and knocked it over...? Neither of us swear as a matter of course, but I think the neighbourhood heard her that day... (She didn't go off at him, it was just that moment of alarm as she realised what was about to happen). He was very contrite, but little damage.

[98tls]

In a few years it will be "i dont care if you dont want to shag me your doing it" blah blah blah.Government better buy up a heap of containers,when the "unsmackable" generation get to 16 or so they will be needing them.

[Brownbikerbabe]

I remember the good ol' days when strangers were allowed to smack you on the back of the head or give you verbal tongue lashing if you were doing something wrong!

[Patrick]

....Saying about a meal "I don't like this shit" doesn't tell us anything.

It does tell one something. They should have gone for the chicken instead. Or the salad....


Government better buy up a heap of containers,when the "unsmackable" generation get to 16 or so they will be needing them.

Sad, but sooooo true. Things are gonna get worse.


I remember the good ol' days when strangers were allowed to smack you on the back of the head or give you verbal tongue lashing if you were doing something wrong!

And the old cop could give your arse a boot, then your dad gave you another.... Long gone nowadays...........

[mashman]

But it isn't just words. We communicate with each other using language. The particular words we choose are important and convey different meanings. Profane swear words are perfectly valid and exist to emphasise an experience or thought. However for them to retain effect, they are used sparingly so they have a shock value.

Saying about a meal "I don't like this shit" doesn't tell us anything. Its a shock word but empty of meaning. Sadly many people don't have descriptive words in their minds so they go for "shit". I abhor this.

Profanity is also violent language. It is used to put other people down, to be insulting. As such it should only be used when necessary.

And i agree, pretty much completely. But... take nigger for example... depending on which context you use it in, depending on to whom you are communicating (their race, generatio, etc..., depending on how the word is heard... it's the person who's listening to the profanity that translates its meaning and wether or not they take offence to it... it's very intolerant and ignorant of someone to just assume that because a 4 letter has been used, that they are incapable of rational thought, let alone being able to wipe their own arse... their whole character being judged by the language they use...

If you ignore the use of the bad language, it loses much of its power... I'm not advocating it, i'm just hypothesising that if all sensitive words are ignored when uttered, they may well lose most of their "stirring" power...

"Profanity is also violent language" is just wrong. Oh fuck i've left the oven on. Hardly violent. Come here as i'm about to shove my foot where the sun doesn't shine. Hardly violent WTF!!!! I don't really follow your logic on that one...

[Genie]

wow, some of the stuff I've just read about what some of you have witnessed, truely saddens me. These poor children, I'm thinking some parents need a damn good clipping around the ears!!!!

I can be bad at certain times when I say of for f's sake, but never would I be little my children and speak to them like they are shit.

We (parents) bought these children into the world and it's up to us to take that responisiblity seriously and do our utmost to raise our children to be functioning adults, what is being raised out there really scares me and my 'nice, polite and caring' children are growing up with these poor young things. I just hope that the niceness of my offspring rubs off onto others and not the other way round. In fact, I think it just will!

[yungatart]

Ya think that's bad?? Wait till the little perps get to High School......its the schools I feel sorry for.

[crazyhorse]

Bring back the bash :rofl:

Disgusting, isn't it! Very sad. He will probably be behind bars as a juvenile, with that kind of upbringing

[ckai]

Sheez,..when I was young, if I said even "bloody" then I got belted hard so I knew not to do it and have respect around my parents. This kid had none whatsoever. Obviously what he's used to hearing around the so-called household....


Well yeah, they are just words and it is easy or easier to think I should just ignore them. My 11 year old boy has a bit of a potty mouth (takes after his Mum) and while he may swear I make the effort to at least teach him when it is appropriate and not. For instance if he tried the above example then Sue Bradford would have me in jail.

It's about respect, me for him and he for those around him.

Respect is totally what the problem is. But unfortunately it's not just the young 'uns that lack it. You just need to look at the roads to see that "everyone" doesn't give a shit about everyone else. This is of course compared to the old days when I was a lad (which wasn't nearly that long ago compared to others :) ) But that's another topic.

The only way to have young people respect others is from an early age. It's one of the few things that can only be taught.


I was always taught as a kid that using swear words only showed a lack of vocabulary.

I was reading a parenting mag about this very thing. Both arguments about kids swearing. One (an english teacher) said that when she heard someone in the class say fuck, she would write about this massive sentence along the lines of "The fucker fucked up..." and told the class to tell her adjectives, nouns, verbs etc and come up with some better words. I thought that was quite a cool idea.

My nephew I think may turn out to one of those ones that disrespect his parents. See signs of it now. I hope he doesn't and I hope they sort out his issues in time. He's already a bit of a handful for my sister and they clearly have a favourite with their second kid.

[golfmade]

Just wait outside any Walmart in the States (or heck anywhere really) you'll see all types.

I'm only 28 but I can remember getting the paddle at my daycare for saying 'damn'.

Heck my mum would smack me upside the head for saying something like "Me and Bob...." although thinking back on it I'm glad she did :D

[slofox]

It's not that new really...

Many years ago, back in the olden days when I was a five year old just started school, I brought a really interesting word home that I'd heard at school...so when me ma complained about the radio being too loud, I, very proudly, advised her to "turn the fuckin' thing off Mum!"

OOps...errr...ahh..well...you could've heard a pin drop (despite the radio still blaring). I knew bloody well something was astray by the look on me ma's face...and the fact that the entire world went into freeze-frame.

"What. Did. You. Say?" she asked, just like that - I could hear the fullstops and bold capital letters...

I replied "Turn the fuckin thing offffff?......." - it was like walking over eggshells - somehow I knew for sure that I was in deeeeeep shit...

She said nothing - at least I heard nothing until I had picked my head up off the floor over the other side of the room and stuck it back on me shoulders...She rang the school, belted me up again, demanded to know who had said it (like I'd remember which of every kid in school I'd heard it from - everyone said it 'cept me). I just named some random kid and she rang the parents and let them have it too...

Turned out me ma didn't like that word...still remember that hiding. These days she'd do time for assaulting her kid...So I stopped saying "fuckin'" for a couple of years - until I hit high school anyway. And even then, never in front of me ma...

[Winston001]

And i agree, pretty much completely. But... take nigger for example... depending on which context you use it in, depending on to whom you are communicating (their race, generation, etc..., depending on how the word is heard... it's the person who's listening to the profanity that translates its meaning and whether or not they take offence to it...

Mmmm......my father's generation didn't see anything wrong with that word either. But I know what you mean - context is everything.



"Profanity is also violent language" is just wrong. Oh fuck i've left the oven on. Hardly violent. Come here as i'm about to shove my foot where the sun doesn't shine. Hardly violent WTF!!!! I don't really follow your logic on that one...

Ok, profanity is often used as a precursor to assault. Just as you propose above. :D That is violent. But more subtly, swear words have a power of their own and their use when aimed at children or the wife is frightening. FYI one of the basis for a Protection Order is violent language. There doesn't need to be an assault. I can recall a lady who was never "deliberately" hit by her boyfriend but she was terrified for herself and her son because of the threats and violent language. Order obtained.

[freedom-wedge]

That fucking bitch better have got him his fucking ice-cream, for fucks sake.

Fuckity fuck fuck.

well that was my first coffeeeee through the nose in a while

[nudemetalz]

Yup, you can rely on Headbanger for a informative answer ;)

[Ronin]

well that was my first coffeeeee through the nose in a while

You obviously don't follow DB's threads then.

[Murray]

I can still taste the soap in my mouth from when I called my sister a slut (stuffed if I knew what it meant??)

[scumdog]

It's called 'the dumbing down of society'.

Meatheads breeding meatheads.

And they do it well - waaay better than those fitted with a functional brain.:weep:

[scumdog]

I was always taught as a kid that using swear words only showed a lack of vocabulary.

People who swear when there is no need are really just showing themselves as being a bit dumb.

I swear when appropriate. If you swear all the time then it detracts from the times when swearing is really called for.

I wonder what's going to happen with the NEXT generation when 'fuck', 'cunt' et al are so passe'??

What other words will the next generation use? - Heavens above? Good lord? Great Scott?......

[golfmade]

I can still taste the soap in my mouth from when I called my sister a slut (stuffed if I knew what it meant??)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktzt096mlxs :D


And they do it well - waaay better than those fitted with a functional brain.:weep:

Easier to go down hill then up.

[oldrider]

So here's the 3 of us (new baby Caleb in his capsule included) are out at Porirua Shopping Centre out to get some baby clothes. Before we venture into a shop outside in the carpark, we see a mother and son who's about 7-8 years old. Next thing we hear him screaming at his Mum (who's of the, shall we say, "lower class" origin !!) and I virtually quote "I don't want to go into the fucking shop. Take me fucking home right now. I want a fucking ice-cream !!"
Our jaws dropped in amazement that a kid so young could be so fluent in profanity !!!
The "mother" just shrugged it off....

Sheez,..when I was young, if I said even "bloody" then I got belted hard so I knew not to do it and have respect around my parents. This kid had none whatsoever. Obviously what he's used to hearing around the so-called household....

Our oldest (now 45) could really say "fuck" perfectly when he was just learning to talk, the only thing was that he is handycapped (having suffered a stroke at birth) and he was referring to his toy!

We tried to teach him to call it a "lorry"! :lol:

[Pixie]

But did the kid get his icecream??

Yeah,he did but it was just plain,ordinary vanilla.

[Pixie]

Just shows you how versatile shit and fuck are. Personally If someone tells me a meal was shit then that conveys everything I need to know.

Yes it is versatile:

"Fuck fucking fucked fucker fucking fuckups fuck fucking fucked fucking fuckup fucking fucker's fuck." is a grammatically correct sentence first said by Lewis Black which is often used as an example of how homonyms and homophones can be used to create complicated constructs.

The sentence consists of fourteen consecutive uses of various variations of the word "fuck", a word famous for its versatility. The sentence has been discussed in literature since 1872, when it was first used by Queen Victoria, currently an associate professor at the University of Fucking.

Sentences of this type, although not in such a refined form, have been known for a long time. A classic example is the proverb "Don't bone boned bones until boned bones bone you".


http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Fuck_fucking_fucked_fucker_fucking_fuckups_fuck_fu cking_fucked_fucking_fuckup_fucking_fucker's_fuck