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YellowDog

15th February 2010, 16:30

TimeOut

15th February 2010, 16:46

It be a sad day when we get them here:weep:

Zuki lover

15th February 2010, 16:47

Theres a cat and fiddle pub in hastings.... wonder if they'll record your drinking a pint in record time :)

Hope it doesn't come here either :(

awayatc

15th February 2010, 16:51

Do they make money?
Then they will come.....

CookMySock

15th February 2010, 16:57

Surely theres a shop in between that sells quality coffee.. No ride I have ever been on makes good time, coz we're always stopping, drinking coffee and talking shit.

Steve

george formby

15th February 2010, 17:37

Absolutely disgusting things. A few years back, on a tour of Scotland I noticed signs for average speed cameras. In my naivety I thought it meant traffic flow average, wow, realistic policing I thought. Then I received the ticket... If you sit on the speed limit & do one fast overtake your screwed.

YellowDog

15th February 2010, 17:53

Surely theres a shop in between that sells quality coffee.. No ride I have ever been on makes good time, coz we're always stopping, drinking coffee and talking shit.

Steve

Drinking coffee, talking shit, and rdeucing your average speed :)

You just need to know where they are and also have spare time on your hands.

FJRider

16th February 2010, 08:22

So whats different to the one's here parked so they face the direction you are GOING ...

george formby

16th February 2010, 09:57

So whats different to the one's here parked so they face the direction you are GOING ...

The cameras in Scotland were on gantrys over the motorway, one in each direction. I guess a lack of motorways here make's it a lot easier to fluctuate your speed below the limit & maintain a legal average. A couple of minutes behind a campervan waiting for a safe overtake would make a big difference.

Coldrider

16th February 2010, 10:03

They have been in Aussie ages ago targeting trucks and driver hours.

Reido

16th February 2010, 10:05

it wont stop those who are determined.. wouldn't be hard to cover you're numberplate when you go past them..

Berries

5th March 2010, 21:31

I hope these don't come to NZ.
They're coming. Have a look at page 20 and 21 of the Safer Journeys Strategy. Investigate the use of point-to-point (section control) speed cameras. Not much for them to investigate in my mind.

We intend to investigate the requirements to introduce point-to-point cameras in New Zealand and possibly undertake some trials. Trials eh ? They'll be here before you know it.

scracha

5th March 2010, 22:24

They're coming. Have a look at page 20 and 21 of the Safer Journeys Strategy. Investigate the use of point-to-point (section control) speed cameras. Not much for them to investigate in my mind.

We intend to investigate the requirements to introduce point-to-point cameras in New Zealand and possibly undertake some trials. Trials eh ? They'll be here before you know it.
We'll be sweet. With all the fuckwits, trucks, caravans, gravel, roadworks and other shit on the road there's not a shitshow in hell of being able to maintain the speed limit on most of the roads.

oldrider

5th March 2010, 22:43

I hope these don't come to NZ.

You can put up with slowing for the camera and then continuing however this is just too much:

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/General-news/2010/February/feb1210-Average-speed-cameras-installed-on-Cat-and-Fiddle-from-Tuesday/

If only they would put the same energy and attention in to catching, prosecuting and punishing real criminals as they do into motoring offenders! :shifty:

slofox

6th March 2010, 05:54

Mom

6th March 2010, 06:40

's easy to fool these...go like hell until you see one coming up. Stop for a coffee for as long as it takes to fix your elapsed time. Then go like hell again. Repeat...

You hafta like coffee though. And after a bit you'll find the caffeine is increasing your between stop speeds, so you'll have to stop for longer and drink MORE coffee...vicious circle really...

I think it would be more you would be stoping to get rid of all the coffee you are drinking that would be your saviour.

I am of the opinion that the open road speed limit in NZ is 80kph anyway, I always laugh when I am going to visit my Mother about the "slow down", "speed kills" signs, chance would be a fine thing really :lol:

golfmade

6th March 2010, 15:59

Unfortunately, a minority of riders treat the road with a race track mentality — we have recorded bikers riding at speeds of 130 mph.

And I'm sure it's only motorcyclists that have ever broken the speed limit on that road.

Short of closing the road, we couldn’t see any viable alternatives to the average-speed cameras to reduce the number of casualties along the Cat and Fiddle.”

I'm actually interested to know how many casualties there are along the stretch of road, anyone know where I could find that out?

I think it would be more you would be stoping to get rid of all the coffee you are drinking that would be your saviour.

Works out perfectly actually. Coffee, restroom, coffee, restroom.

slofox

6th March 2010, 16:19

I think it would be more you would be stoping to get rid of all the coffee you are drinking that would be your saviour.
:lol:

Well...that too, now that you mention it...

I would have to say though, that when I ride to Raglan for a coffee in the mornings, I always get home faster than I get out there...might be goal approach behaviour...or it might be the caffeine hit...:whistle:

slofox

6th March 2010, 16:21

"we have recorded bikers riding at speeds of 130 mph. "

Is THAT all? huh! pussies, the lot of 'em...

pc220

6th March 2010, 16:45

"we have recorded bikers riding at speeds of 130 mph. "

Is THAT all? huh! pussies, the lot of 'em...

They must be tea drinkers aye ?

Mom

6th March 2010, 17:01

They must be tea drinkers aye ?

Nah! Green tea mate :yes:

oldrider

7th March 2010, 09:17

I must be the only driver/rider in New Zealand that meticulously obeys "all" the road rules "all" the time! :yes:

It's the loneliness that is is killing me! :mellow:

Toaster

7th March 2010, 12:36

I must be the only driver/rider in New Zealand that meticulously obeys "all" the road rules "all" the time! :yes:

It's the loneliness that is is killing me! :mellow:

UM............ impeding the flow of traffic is an offence ;)

Guzza

7th March 2010, 13:29

As i understand it, point to point cameras are being used to moniter trucks between christchurch and Picton

davereid

7th March 2010, 16:26

As i understand it, point to point cameras are being used to moniter trucks between christchurch and Picton

They already operate a fully telemetered vehicle tracking system on all major, and many minor roads. You will see the green boxes near intersections, they are about 600 high, 800 wide and 350 deep.

They currently track trucks using the weigh-in-motion system. This records the axle weights of vehicles as they enter and then depart an intersection, enabling any individual vehicle to be easily tracked.

This is already operating, but only used on trucks, at least thats what they say.

See http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/traffic-monitoring-state-hways/docs/traffic-monitoring-state-highways.pdf
and http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/state-highway-traffic-volumes/docs/SHTV-2002.pdf

And have a look at the future - already planned real time tracking of you just awaiting introduction (its only for trucks yeah right)

http://www.transport.govt.nz/ourwork/Land/Documents/Hyder%20Consulting%20Expert%20Technical%20Advice%2 0-%20diagram,%20narrative,%20strategic%20standards%2 0and%20security.pdf

Save a copy, I doubt they will stay on-line for ever.

skinman

7th March 2010, 20:54

wieght things will never work for motorcycles. have lost count of number of times have had to go trough traffic lights that wont change for me already. wait two fazes, look around, GO:chase:

BikerDazz

8th March 2010, 17:44

wieght things will never work for motorcycles. have lost count of number of times have had to go trough traffic lights that wont change for me already. wait two fazes, look around, GO:chase:

Exactomondo! such a pain in the arse. I'm waiting to get stopped by the cops for it but waddaya do?

90s

10th March 2010, 11:10

We'll be sweet. With all the fuckwits, trucks, caravans, gravel, roadworks and other shit on the road there's not a shitshow in hell of being able to maintain the speed limit on most of the roads.

You seem to misunderstand how these are used in the UK and will be used here. They are not for safety on the roads you mention, but will be on motorways where a lot of the time doing 120kph is usual - SH16 into the city for example. If anyone has driven into London from the M4 / M11 you will know the frustration of them putting DOWN the speed limits then putting many cameras and average speed cameras in. Outside of peak hours with an empty road ahead just craaaaawwwling along ... (and not very safe either this form of driving)