Illegal number plate?

[Little Miss Trouble]

So my new toy has this awesome tail tidy with a non-government issue number plate (see pic) which I'm assuming is illegal?
I'd quite like to keep it as is if possible, so just wondering if anyone else has one similar & whether they've had any hassles with it?

[Str8 Jacket]

It's only illegal if you get caught! ;)

[Mom]

Hate to tell you this but yepper that is dead illegal. It has no number on it at all :D

[crazyhorse]

Kinda think its a question that really doesn't need an answer. Its obvious really. Maybe you should ride without a helmet too - would that be illegal?

[Little Miss Trouble]

Kinda think its a question that really doesn't need an answer. Its obvious really. Maybe you should ride without a helmet too - would that be illegal?

Wow whats up your bum this morning?!

I was more asking whether its the kind of thing I'll get pulled over for or whether its something the cops aren't likely to bother about.

FWIW it got a warrent from a bike shop with this plate

[Str8 Jacket]

Wow whats up your bum this morning?!

I was more asking whether its the kind of thing I'll get pulled over for or whether its something the cops aren't likely to bother about.

FWIW it got a warrent from a bike shop with this plate

That's what I was trying to say with my post. You know its illegal but you'll only get 'in trouble' if the cop sees it/can be bothered.

It's kind of like ridng without a L plate on your learners, you make the call....

[crazyhorse]

That's what I was trying to say with my post. You know its illegal but you'll only get 'in trouble' if the cop sees it/can be bothered.

It's kind of like ridng without a L plate on your learners, you make the call....

Exactly..... what she said :done:

[crazyhorse]

Wow whats up your bum this morning?!

I was more asking whether its the kind of thing I'll get pulled over for or whether its something the cops aren't likely to bother about.

FWIW it got a warrent from a bike shop with this plate

........It has no number on it at all :D

So easily identified by others, and thought this was obvious, but you still had to ask the question. Nothin up my bum, thanks for asking, just amazed that someone who has the intelligence to ride a bike needs to ask such a question...... ANd it doesn't a plate to get a warrant, it needs a warrant to be road legal and registered.

[BMWST?]

its a bit like the german plates a lot of cars have.They are theoretically illegal but i dont hink much happens about it.If and when plate reading cameras start to get used is when they will start to tighten up on it.

[Little Miss Trouble]

Well obviously I've blanked the number out before loading it up, since its very easy to find out someones address details if you have their license plate number. I'm not going to make a thiefs job any easier!

And yes, a warrent covers whether the bike is road legal, I would have thought this would also cover the regulation of plate size etc but seeing I'm not certified to carry out such an inspection I wouldn't actually know that would I?

[Owl]

So my new toy has this awesome tail tidy with a non-government issue number plate (see pic) which I'm assuming is illegal?
I'd quite like to keep it as is if possible, so just wondering if anyone else has one similar & whether they've had any hassles with it?

Many years ago, I got pulled up by an MOT officer because he spotted the non-standard plate on my car. After finding other issues, he gave me the choice of which infringement I wanted (Nice of him). I said the one that's the cheapest, he said they're all the same cost and then recommended the "seat belt", because it didn't carry demerits. I think even that has changed now, but I wouldn't recommend a fake plate!:no:

[yungatart]

Anything other than a government issue plate is illegal.
I suspect that if you were stopped for anything (other than the plate) and your attitude was in 'need of adjustment' (or the cop was low on his quota) you would be okay.
Will a regular plate fit on the bike as it is now?

[Little Miss Trouble]

Anything other than a government issue plate is illegal.
I suspect that if you were stopped for anything (other than the plate) and your attitude was in 'need of adjustment' (or the cop was low on his quota) you would be okay.
Will a regular plate fit on the bike as it is now?

Well I do make a concerted effort to keep my pace down on the straights & practise being smooth & consistant (and ultimately faster) through the twisties (coz we all know thats where the real fun is :D) so I shouldn't be doing anything to give them a reason to pull me over in the first place!

I'll check, a regulation plate should fit fine though

[Mom]

Well obviously I've blanked the number out before loading it up, since its very easy to find out someones address details if you have their license plate number. I'm not going to make a thiefs job any easier!

And yes, a warrent covers whether the bike is road legal, I would have thought this would also cover the regulation of plate size etc but seeing I'm not certified to carry out such an inspection I wouldn't actually know that would I?

Sarcasm seems to be lost on some people eh girls?




Anything other than a government issue plate is illegal.
I suspect that if you were stopped for anything (other than the plate) and your attitude was in 'need of adjustment' (or the cop was low on his quota) you would be okay.
Will a regular plate fit on the bike as it is now?

[red mermaid]

Its $200 and no demerits.

[Maha]

Looks a little 'Instant Kiwi' to me L, scratch it and see what you have won!

[CookMySock]

Lots of people have plates like that. If you were stopped, I'd just look downcast at the officer and tell him you bought the bike from a bike shop like that, and then offer to "have the problem resolved promptly".

There is always the chance you get some long arm 'o the law on his bad day, but otherwise I think you will be fine with it.

Steve

[yungatart]

Sarcasm seems to be lost on some people eh girls?

Ya think? Must try to be less subtle, in future. Mind you, it's hardly fair to be sarcastic without using smilies, now is it?

Anyway, MissL, be wary, taking my advice, as apparently I know jackshit.....

[FJRider]

And yes, a warrent covers whether the bike is road legal,

NO ... it covers that it is SAFE to be ridden on the road ...

[Ronin]

Ya think? Must try to be less subtle, in future. Mind you, it's hardly fair to be sarcastic without using smilies, now is it?

Anyway, MissL, be wary, taking my advice, as apparently I know jackshit.....

Thats John's brother isn't it?

[CookMySock]

NO ... it [a WOF] covers that it is SAFE to be ridden on the road ...At the time it was tested, in the issuers' professional opinion. Traffic officers can and will revoke a WOF at will AND fine you for an unsafe vehicle, current WOF or otherwise.

Steve

[yungatart]

The plate is not checked as part of the WOF process, anyway.

[Coldrider]

Why bother posting up something you know is illegal, and bag those that do not think like the nice policeman you have imagined in your head.

Ride your bike down to the local cop shop and ask them what they think.
Then answer is known.
Good luck.

[Ratti]

My opinion.
why give anyone a chance to have an issue? It's an easy one to resolve, so go do it

[Little Miss Trouble]

Why bother posting up something you know is illegal, and bag those that do not think like the nice policeman you have imagined in your head.

I'm not bagging anyone who's made constructive comments. The reason I posted it was to see if any of our esteemed members who work in either the vehicle licensing or law enforcement professions could provide me with information, but they all must be working.

Oh, and most policemen are nice, to me anyway ;)


Ride your bike down to the local cop shop and ask them what they think.
Then answer is known.
Good luck.

Now thats a good suggestion, I can have a good perv at the same time too:woohoo:

[FJRider]

Oh, and most policemen are nice, to me anyway ;)





Take a PHOTO in ... otherwise they MAY ticket you if it is illeagal...

[kwaka_crasher]

NO ... it covers that it is SAFE to be ridden on the road ...

I hate to be picky but actually it's evidence that it has been inspected by an authorised person and met the requirements of compliance, at that time.

[cynna]

a bike i had for 8 years had a non standard plate. cops noticed it a few times when i was pulled over and mentioned it but never did anythng about it. never got mentioned at the wof station.

[paulmac]

I have a modified number plate and have never had any problems.

[CookMySock]

a bike i had for 8 years had a non standard plate. cops noticed it a few times when i was pulled over and mentioned it but never did anythng about it. never got mentioned at the wof station.Lots of things to do with motorcycling are like this - we just do it and no one really cares. It's not exaaaactly what they meant when they wrote the law, but as long as it doesn't really affect anyone, they let it go.

Case in point - if ALL motorcyclists deliberately went out tomorrow and rode past speed cameras at 230 clicks and gave them the finger, they will change the law so you have to have a license plate on the front.

Case in point - if ALL motorcyclists went out and hardcore lane-split everywhere to within 99.999% of the grey area of the law, and scared hell out of everyone, you KNOW they will make a new rule, don't ya. ;)

So do what you like but just keep it in check, and no one cares.

Steve

[YellowDog]

Sorry for being so stupid, what is wrong with the plate?

Are the figures larger or smaller than they should be?

Are they not embossed?

Surely if it passed a WOF, then it is road legal to register?

[Toaster]

So my new toy has this awesome tail tidy with a non-government issue number plate (see pic) which I'm assuming is illegal?
I'd quite like to keep it as is if possible, so just wondering if anyone else has one similar & whether they've had any hassles with it?

Yes it is an offence to display a plate that is remanufactured or modified in any way. The plate that was originally supplied is that which must be displayed and there are no exemptions.

[mykro]

They only give u a ticket for unauthorised number plate ($200 i think) and take it off the bike... (I only got a written warning on my speeding ticket..) And sent me on my merry way. I got one made at a sign place, slightly smaller and letters in red still with reflector backing. Cost me $15. Not been hammered for this one yet, will keep you posted

[yungatart]

They only give u a ticket for unauthorised number plate ($200 i think) and take it off the bike... (I only got a written warning on my speeding ticket..) And sent me on my merry way. I got one made at a sign place, slightly smaller and letters in red still with reflector backing. Cost me $15. Not been hammered for this one yet, will keep you posted

It is still illegal! Even if it is the same size, font, etc. as it does not reflect like the authorised plates do.
A new plate costs about $8

[ntst8]

...If and when plate reading cameras start to get used is when they will start to tighten up on it.

Theys already in use on the pay Motorway Nth of Auckland for collecting the toll.

[Cayman911]

is it just me or can you almost make out the top of number's at the far left and far right... as if someones painted or something

[davebullet]

I only know one thing with all the tension in this thread. Many people need to get laid

[breakaway]

Whats wrong with using the plate that you're legally supposed to use? Shit like this just attracts the filth.

[Virago]

Whats wrong with using the plate that you're legally supposed to use? Shit like this just attracts the filth.

I find that the regulation number plate gets just as dirty...:done:

[kwaka_crasher]

I find that the regulation number plate gets just as dirty...:done:

I've noticed that it's the only bit that gets dirty. It's really quite bizarre... :whistle:

[Pascal]

Well obviously I've blanked the number out before loading it up, since its very ...

You did such a good job blanking it out that you fooled a lot of them :) Anyway, I drove around for about 6 years with Californian plates (Personalised here) on my car, got pulled over once and told that if it was any other cop I'd not have been let off, but he liked the car so it was just a warning.

[Little Miss Trouble]

Well i've replaced it with a standard plate. Next issue is that i'll need to get an integrated tail light as the new plate partially blocks the indicators!

[nutjob]

Ok I have chopped the edges off my plate to make it a bit smaller and then wrapped them in plastic trim. Surely it is still legal???

[Max Preload]

Ok I have chopped the edges off my plate to make it a bit smaller and then wrapped them in plastic trim. Surely it is still legal???Nope. Illegal to modify.

[nutjob]

Nope. Illegal to modify.

Son of a bitch! :angry: The WOF is due soon too

[AllanB]

Son of a bitch! :angry: The WOF is due soon too

I hope your tail light and indicators have suitable 'numbers' on them too ..........

[nutjob]

I hope your tail light and indicators have suitable 'numbers' on them too ..........

I certainly hope so Allan, they were brought from a bike shop here in NZ!

[2wheeldrifter]

Son of a bitch! :angry: The WOF is due soon too

that's the least of your worries... you ride a triumph dude come on be real with yourself :)

[The Pastor]

its only illigal is the cop picks up on it, or ur wof guy. I think its only a $200 ticket, IF you get one. I wouldn't worry about it personally.

[Max Preload]

Son of a bitch! :angry: The WOF is due soon tooIt's not a WoF item though...


I certainly hope so Allan, they were brought from a bike shop here in NZ!That, in itself, means nothing. They'll sell anything to anyone.

What you need to do is look at the Land Transport Rule: Vehicle Lighting 2004 (http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/rules/vehicle-lighting-2004.html) (and amendments) to determine if they meet the relevant current requirements. Or just don't worry about it because they probably won't pick it up at WoF time anyway... just go to either a bike shop or VTNZ! :lol:

[Crazy Steve]

So my new toy has this awesome tail tidy with a non-government issue number plate (see pic) which I'm assuming is illegal?
I'd quite like to keep it as is if possible, so just wondering if anyone else has one similar & whether they've had any hassles with it?

Noooice chicken strips on your 005 Shinko ! !

Crazy Steve.

[imdying]

WOF man isn't the problem.

A friend has a similarly modified plate (except it looks like cousin Rangi did it, and it's cracked in half to boot!), and has never had any WOF trouble. What flabergasts me is that he has never been given any heat from the feds about it either!

Cheap to replace though; just tell them you've lost it, then you'll have one you can swap back and forth.

[Little Miss Trouble]

Haha thread dredge!


Noooice chicken strips on your 005 Shinko ! !

Crazy Steve.

Dude, that was back in April, the day it got dropped off to me, running pilot powers with considerably less chicken strips now

[Owl]

Dude, that was back in April, the day it got dropped off to me, running pilot powers with considerably less chicken strips now

Yeah, you tell him:D

[Rogue Rider]

I thought, and I try not to think too often....... that as long as the plate is readable, ledgable and has a number plate light that its pretty much ok.

I Popo can give you a ticket for just about anything including looking sideways, smiling or whatever they can conceive.
The key is that because you ride a bike, automatically you are a target of curiosity so the less you give them as options the better.
I had a non govt issue plate for years on my bike as it was originally one of those hideous square ones..... Now I have a smaller Personalised plate which is ok. However, in saying that, it's made so poorly, like everything these days that... it's cracking and breaking at the fixing points. When it breaks, I will replace it like the last one, with an improved polycarbonate one from my sign writer. He does heaps of them apparently.

Recently I saw a car in Warkworth with a persnalised plate front and back, made of hard board, held on with cable ties, with lettering in Black Vivid.................:Punk::Punk:

It matched the car, a beat up green wagon lol.

[Gremlin]

Technically, drilling holes in the plate to mount it, is illegal. Naturally, this is slightly overlooked :mellow:

I doubt you would get pulled over specifically for the plate, but as I had once (with a bike and plate done by a previous owner) for something else, the plate was chucked on top. $200 (unless its changed since 2007 ish).

Had one plate last about a year on the current bike. Since had a new plate, but then a mate has glued the plate to perspex, and then we mounted it. Much stronger, still the legal plate, solved the problem hopefully.

[nutjob]

Technically, drilling holes in the plate to mount it, is illegal. Naturally, this is slightly overlooked :mellow:

I doubt you would get pulled over specifically for the plate, but as I had once (with a bike and plate done by a previous owner) for something else, the plate was chucked on top. $200 (unless its changed since 2007 ish).

Had one plate last about a year on the current bike. Since had a new plate, but then a mate has glued the plate to perspex, and then we mounted it. Much stronger, still the legal plate, solved the problem hopefully.

Bugger! So basically my plate is going to cost me $200 if the Plod wants to be a wanker about it. The irony here is that I went and got that shiny new plate so I could chop it up and drill some holes in it :shit:

[Gremlin]

Bugger! So basically my plate is going to cost me $200 if the Plod wants to be a wanker about it.
Well... yip. :yes: Probably not even much of a wanker. The rules are the rules, and even as I said to the cop, I have passed so many cops, and not a single one has said a thing (mine was very obvious, previous owner had chopped the plate right down to just around the letters). He just said he wasn't questioning other officers, and thats the rules.


The irony here is that I went and got that shiny new plate so I could chop it up and drill some holes in it :shit:
What a nutjob :weird:

[Patrick]

Its $200 and no demerits.

Ummm... as of 1st December 2009... Unauthorised plate, $200 fine AND 25 demerits.... but she has gone and got it all fixed now. She is sorted.


its only illigal is the cop picks up on it, or ur wof guy. I think its only a $200 ticket, IF you get one. I wouldn't worry about it personally.

plus the demerits....


...... I will replace it like the last one, with an improved polycarbonate one from my sign writer. He does heaps of them apparently.

Recently I saw a car in Warkworth with a persnalised plate front and back, made of hard board, held on with cable ties, with lettering in Black Vivid.................:Punk::Punk:

It matched the car, a beat up green wagon lol.

See above - unauthorised = $200 and 25 demerits. In both cases.....

[The Pastor]

Ummm... as of 1st December 2009... Unauthorised plate, $200 fine AND 25 demerits.... but she has gone and got it all fixed now. She is sorted.



plus the demerits....



See above - unauthorised = $200 and 25 demerits. In both cases.....

I hate the government so much.

[Patrick]

I hate the government so much.

Why? Legal plate costs nothing. It comes with the bike.....

[Gremlin]

Why? Legal plate costs nothing. It comes with the bike.....
Unless it breaks into two pieces in under a year :shit:

Then you have to fork out the exhorbitant fee of $8.80 (or something, whatever) for ANOTHER!!

Do they come with warranties? :innocent:

[Patrick]

Unless it breaks into two pieces in under a year :shit:

Then you have to fork out the exhorbitant fee of $8.80 (or something, whatever) for ANOTHER!!

Do they come with warranties? :innocent:

Consumers Rights - one would expect a metal plate to last more than 1 year. Take it to Fair Go...

[SMOKEU]

I've seen plenty of cages with no front number plate, just some numbers painted on the bonnet to vaguely resemble a number plate.

[Max Preload]

I've seen plenty of cages with no front number plate, just some numbers painted on the bonnet to vaguely resemble a number plate.Yeah... your point being?

[SMOKEU]

Yeah... your point being?

Surely it can't be legal. They still seem to get away with it though.

[Gremlin]

Surely it can't be legal. They still seem to get away with it though.
What a novel thought? :blink:

They get away with it until they are pulled up. Like I have said, I wasn't pulled up straight away for my plate, it was probably over a year before I got fined for it.

[SMOKEU]

What a novel thought? :blink:

They get away with it until they are pulled up. Like I have said, I wasn't pulled up straight away for my plate, it was probably over a year before I got fined for it.

Surely the WOF inspector(s) must notice it.

[The Pastor]

Why? Legal plate costs nothing. It comes with the bike.....

stupid laws telling me how to live my life!

[davebullet]

I want to stick one of these bastards on (and be even more of a tosser):
http://www.plateflipper.com/

[Coldrider]

Seen it done with a motor mower throttle cable, alot cheaper.

[Max Preload]

Surely the WOF inspector(s) must notice it.I'm sure they do, at least sometimes. However...

It's not a WoF item though...