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Starky307
24th February 2010, 09:55
I know this is a wanted add but I felt there may get better coverage of the target audience if I placed it in here.
I'm after a Kawasaki race ECU for a 2008 ZX6, if you know of someone with one they want to off load then please get in touch with me. I'm hoping there may be a couple of them floating around now that a new model is in the mix some people may be putting their race bikes back to road condition.
If you know of them or have had experience please let me know.
Cheers
Brad
neil_cb125t
24th February 2010, 16:51
hi Lee bradford( team Airforce Racing ) will be selling his 08 ZX6r in the next month or so.. it has Kawaka Race ECU mapped by museum hotel ( when J was riding it ) and a full Akra Exhuast system with carbon firbe end can.
let me know he may want to sell the sys and chip... that all he has done to the bike and its TRUCKING FAST!!
Starky307
26th February 2010, 20:34
hi Lee bradford( team Airforce Racing ) will be selling his 08 ZX6r in the next month or so.. it has Kawaka Race ECU mapped by museum hotel ( when J was riding it ) and a full Akra Exhuast system with carbon firbe end can.
let me know he may want to sell the sys and chip... that all he has done to the bike and its TRUCKING FAST!!
Would it include all the required interface cables or would it be just the ECU?
lee
27th February 2010, 07:38
Hi,
Not sure if I'll be selling the ecu/system seperate from the bike yet. Going to try and sell the bike as a complete package first. It'll be going cheap as I'm only interested in recovering some money for my new project.
However in answer to your question. I've got some cabling sat in a box that came with the ecu, but I think its for plugging it into a dyno/computer etc. The race ecu simply plugs stright in place of the original ecu, all that was needed was to simply unplug one and put the other in its place.
Wheeliemonsta
27th February 2010, 07:56
You'll achieve the same results with a Power Commander & good dyno operator for a third the cost...
Cheers
:rockon:
NinjaBoy
27th February 2010, 17:57
However in answer to your question. I've got some cabling sat in a box that came with the ecu, but I think its for plugging it into a dyno/computer etc. The race ecu simply plugs stright in place of the original ecu, all that was needed was to simply unplug one and put the other in its place.
Lee - there should be an additional pigtail cable which goes from the ECU to a blank plug. ie. with stock ECU there is a blank plug.
You'll achieve the same results with a Power Commander & good dyno operator for a third the cost...
Cheers
:rockon:
Kawasaki sell the ECU and software/cable separately unlike the Suzuki Yoshimura kits. John at TripleZees has access to a cable/software for tuning.
Not sure of NZ pricing but if you look on the US Kawasaki site the Race ECU alone is similar to Power Commander pricing. Without getting into a long debate about the differences between PCIII and Race ECU the zero map on the Race ECU on the ZX6 is worth a few HP alone.
lee
27th February 2010, 18:33
its been so long since I fitted it, I can't remember. Either way I do have extra cables in a box.
Starky307
1st March 2010, 17:50
Hi,
Not sure if I'll be selling the ecu/system seperate from the bike yet. Going to try and sell the bike as a complete package first. It'll be going cheap as I'm only interested in recovering some money for my new project.
However in answer to your question. I've got some cabling sat in a box that came with the ecu, but I think its for plugging it into a dyno/computer etc. The race ecu simply plugs stright in place of the original ecu, all that was needed was to simply unplug one and put the other in its place.
Hi lee, the cable i need is the one it sounds like you have in the box, it has a computer plug at one end then a box in the middle with a factory connection plug to hook into the bike. I would bee keen to buy this off you if you wouldn't mind selling it.
Lee - there should be an additional pigtail cable which goes from the ECU to a blank plug. ie. with stock ECU there is a blank plug.
Kawasaki sell the ECU and software/cable separately unlike the Suzuki Yoshimura kits. John at TripleZees has access to a cable/software for tuning.
Unfortunately he doesn't have the cable and he asked me to get the software as well as he didn't think he had it for my bike. I was going to take it up there this evening but I asked about the comms cable and he said he didn't have one, hence I'm trying to get one.
I want to have one for myself so if anyone knows of one around that they don't need please let me know so I can tune my bike.
steelestring
3rd March 2010, 12:40
Not sure of NZ pricing but if you look on the US Kawasaki site the Race ECU alone is similar to Power Commander pricing. Without getting into a long debate about the differences between PCIII and Race ECU the zero map on the Race ECU on the ZX6 is worth a few HP alone.[/QUOTE]
Just going to jack this thread a wee bit... with a quick question.
Does the race ecu change the display interface when activated or can all the normal operations still be used? eg. You dont loose the speedo or something stupid like that eh?
So they can be tuned better for more power than a pc3?
chur
NinjaBoy
3rd March 2010, 13:58
Just going to jack this thread a wee bit... with a quick question.
Does the race ecu change the display interface when activated or can all the normal operations still be used? eg. You dont loose the speedo or something stupid like that eh?
So they can be tuned better for more power than a pc3?
chur
Yes I've seen one in road trim where the Speedo, tach and lights still appear to work. Maybe Starky can point out what doesn't.
In terms of tunability. The PC3 allows fuelling changes. ie. making it riicher or leaner at different parts of the RPM curve. You can buy additional modules for things like ignition advance, quick shifters etc..
The Race ECU replaces the standard ECU. Its zero map is more agressive than the standard map and there is some HP gains there alone. The Race ECU also comes standard with things like ignition advance, increasing the RPM limit, secondary butterfly controls etc...
There is more scope for tuning out of the box but you often need corresponding engine work to realise the full gains.
steelestring
3rd March 2010, 15:30
Yes I've seen one in road trim where the Speedo, tach and lights still appear to work. Maybe Starky can point out what doesn't.
In terms of tunability. The PC3 allows fuelling changes. ie. making it riicher or leaner at different parts of the RPM curve. You can buy additional modules for things like ignition advance, quick shifters etc..
The Race ECU replaces the standard ECU. Its zero map is more agressive than the standard map and there is some HP gains there alone. The Race ECU also comes standard with things like ignition advance, increasing the RPM limit, secondary butterfly controls etc...
There is more scope for tuning out of the box but you often need corresponding engine work to realise the full gains.
Awesome, cheers for that info. Sounds like its the best option ...you just need someone to tune and set it up with good skills.
So this unit came from Jay Racers zx6r?
NinjaBoy
3rd March 2010, 17:13
Depends on what you're after. If you just want to smooth out the power delivery after putting on an aftermarket exhaust, a PC 3 is fine. If you after every last horsie then the Race ECU has some advantages.
I got mine from Kawasaki NZ. I think most of Jay's ZX's were sold as complete race bikes.
Yep got it from Jay or his mechanic (through a friend) sold as a package with the full akroprovic (is that how you spell it?) system.
Ivan
4th March 2010, 11:26
yeah well I have his very first ZX6RR the 04 and it has a Kwaka Race ECU
Starky307
4th March 2010, 20:46
Yep got it from Jay or his mechanic (through a friend) sold as a package with the full akroprovic (is that how you spell it?) system.
Have you had any luck finding the coms cable? I'd love to buy it off you (for the right price of course).
Starky307
4th March 2010, 20:49
Not sure of NZ pricing but if you look on the US Kawasaki site the Race ECU alone is similar to Power Commander pricing. Without getting into a long debate about the differences between PCIII and Race ECU the zero map on the Race ECU on the ZX6 is worth a few HP alone.
Just going to jack this thread a wee bit... with a quick question.
Does the race ecu change the display interface when activated or can all the normal operations still be used? eg. You dont loose the speedo or something stupid like that eh?
So they can be tuned better for more power than a pc3?
chur[/QUOTE]
From what I've read and what NinjaBoy has said they can be used on the road, there are other features that can be tuned on and off like rpm limiter for pit road etc.
Basically the options are a lot greater with the race ecu.
Once I get a coms cable I'll be able to comment more.
steelestring
5th March 2010, 09:44
From what I've read and what NinjaBoy has said they can be used on the road, there are other features that can be tuned on and off like rpm limiter for pit road etc.
Basically the options are a lot greater with the race ecu.
Once I get a coms cable I'll be able to comment more.[/QUOTE]
Sweet! sounds awesome. I am keen to get one for myself too if its worth out performs the PC3. Definitely let me know how things work out with it :)
I will put it on my list of wants.
cheers
Ivan
24th March 2010, 19:07
Hey DOes anyone havea cable they could help me with for 5 minutes?
I have one here but the plug that plugs into thebike has been chopped off andthe 5 wires are different than the ones on the bike which I have read is true But I can seem to find any were any idea on which wire goes to which As I am getting a new plug made for it basically I need help here matching the interface cable wires to the wires on the bike my colours are Red, Yellow, Green with yellow stripe, Black, Black with white stripe thats the ones on the interface cable could you tell me which they line up to on bike
Regards
Ivan
Starky307
24th March 2010, 19:13
Hey DOes anyone havea cable they could help me with for 5 minutes?
I have one here but the plug that plugs into thebike has been chopped off andthe 5 wires are different than the ones on the bike which I have read is true But I can seem to find any were any idea on which wire goes to which As I am getting a new plug made for it basically I need help here matching the interface cable wires to the wires on the bike my colours are Red, Yellow, Green with yellow stripe, Black, Black with white stripe thats the ones on the interface cable could you tell me which they line up to on bike
Regards
Ivan
Hey man if you want to offload it I'm willing to give it a go and fix it, so if you want to sell it let me know and I'll buy it off you.
Cheers
Brad
Ivan
24th March 2010, 19:19
haha I only just brought it so am not willing to offload it yet plus it is for a 04 the cable is the same apparently up to now but the software is different
The Stranger
24th March 2010, 19:26
You could try Two Smoker.
He has the race ecu and an interface cable and no longer races the bike.
When last we spoke he was returning his bike to std and putting it back on the road. Things change, but it's worth a try.
He doesn't come on KB much at all now. PM me if you would like his cell phone number.
Starky307
24th March 2010, 19:28
haha I only just brought it so am not willing to offload it yet plus it is for a 04 the cable is the same apparently up to now but the software is different
How about you let me dissect it and build two new ones after having a look inside the magic part of it?
Ivan
24th March 2010, 19:34
Hey I can Contact Chris on Face Book have allhis details completly forgot about him!
NinjaBoy
25th March 2010, 14:19
You could try Two Smoker.
He has the race ecu and an interface cable and no longer races the bike.
When last we spoke he was returning his bike to std and putting it back on the road. Things change, but it's worth a try.
He doesn't come on KB much at all now. PM me if you would like his cell phone number.
Actually I know for sure he no longer has the ECU or cable
Ivan
25th March 2010, 15:40
do you have it?
NinjaBoy
25th March 2010, 15:46
do you have it?
yep you guessed right !
Ivan
25th March 2010, 17:47
hahaha nice hey would you mind if I PM'd you about wire pin locations onplug I got some but just want to make sure before hooking up to my ECU as I dont want it to go pop Triple Zee told me how theres is wired just want a second confirmation
The Stranger
25th March 2010, 20:23
Actually I know for sure he no longer has the ECU or cable
Both of them?
NinjaBoy
25th March 2010, 21:07
hahaha nice hey would you mind if I PM'd you about wire pin locations onplug I got some but just want to make sure before hooking up to my ECU as I dont want it to go pop Triple Zee told me how theres is wired just want a second confirmation
John has my cable right now so I would be reading off the same cable. Why does your one have the plug chopped off ?
NinjaBoy
25th March 2010, 21:09
Both of them?
If you mean ECU AND ECU tuning cable then Yes. I also know where Chris' other bike ended up and I believe it also has a Race ECU based upon the existence of the pig tail cable required for the Race ECU.
Ivan
26th March 2010, 11:14
Dont know I brought it off trademe and the guy I think had it hardwired to his bike
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