People intimidating motorcyclists

[breakaway]

My Mrs recently got a SV650S, its her first 'big' bike. It's plenty loud, and big.

She earlier had a FZX250 (Zeal) and used to tell me stories about how people used to ignore her - like for example when she's pootling around the city, the pass her on the left, WHILE she's diong 60km/h. etc.

I wrote this off immediately as people being plonkers due to her being on her L Plate. But after getting the SV650S, she says that she still experiences this sort of asshole behaviour (Tailgating, dodgy and dangerous passing on left).

In the past two years I've owned everything from a RG150 to a GSXR1000, and I've never experienced this sort of dickhead behaviour from other road users (Asides from a couple of isolated incidents)

I'm just wondering - why is she being 'targetted' like this? Am I never targetted because I'm a big boned :innocent: dude wearing black leathers + helmet? I've told her to position her vehicle directly in front of others so they can't do dodgy shit.

[Spearfish]

go for a ride together but hold well back and watch what happens then have a chat afterwards.
I did that with a mate of mine but the problem was that he had more confidence and rode with more assertion in traffic with a buddy so his problem of lane sharing etc didn't happen.

[howdamnhard]

Check where she is riding in the lane. Sounds like she needs to ride a little more in the centre to "own" the lane this will prevent cars trying to pass on either side. I normally ride a little to the right of centre in traffic (RH wheeltrack) but there is no hard and fast rule and you should be prepared to adapt to the conditions.
Also I tend to ride a little quicker than the surrounding cars to prevent them riding up my ass.If somebody is up my tail I let them pass when possible/safe. I ride my bike a little more "aggresively/decisively" than I would my car.

[TerminalAddict]

I'm just guessing but ... I bet you are way more aggressive on the road than the Mrs.

It's a bit like dog psychology .. act afraid on the road, and people will show aggression; act aggressive, and people with stay out of your way.

(maybe aggressive is the wrong word .. determined, confident, assertive )

[PirateJafa]

I'm just guessing but ... I bet you are way more aggressive on the road than the Mrs.

It's a bit like dog psychology .. act afraid on the road, and people will show aggression; act aggressive, and people with stay out of your way.

(maybe aggressive is the wrong word .. determined, confident, assertive )

I agree wholeheartedly. This is the exact advice that I give to newer riders on this subject - if you appear to be confident, then car drivers will respect you.

Yes, I know that they should respect all other road users regardless, but what "should" happen, doesn't necessarily happen. We know this.

[Ronin]

+1 to the above. You really do need to own the lane your in and not be tentative. That doesn't mean you don't ride with regard to the drivers around you though.

[Ratti]

Get her to practice 'owning' her part of the road. terminology is everything, so maybe use the words 'claiming her space'.

I like to ride slightly to the right of the centre of the lane. You know where the right side tyres of cars make a bit of a track on the road? Well just to the inside of the right track line. The idea being that I'm in the drivers line and that makes me a real threat to their car.

Same thing works for pedalbikes too. Stay slightly on the line of the left tyre track and suddenly you are a threat to the 4 wheelers.

[avgas]

Yep I agree with all that is said so far.
One thing that new riders have not seemed to figure out, that if your in the left hand in the lane - you are submissive on the road. Keep the bike in the right wheel track and things will go 10 times better for you.
Another thing a friend did to give himself some more space while on the bike was as simple as license plate surround. People keep their distance when you have "Back the fuck up" around the plate.
But definitely - ride like your are driving a manoeuvrable car. Own your part of road. Mark the turf so to speak.
Even 'blips' of throttle help.
Most of all NEVER use the horn - it just makes you look like a pathetic dick.

[duckonin]

Pathetic dick I mite look, but when I use the horn people turn their heads, so at least in the case of an accident there should be plenty of witnesses..

Hmmm!!! Was sure that is what a horn was for to attract attention....

[FJRider]

I got abused by a woman (a regular occurance .... :innocent: ) trying to find a car park for her SUV, I had parked my bike dead center of a car park. She wanted ME to find another "space" to park because I was "wasteing" the car park space because I was not using the ENTIRE parking space ... and HER SUV would ...

Some people think if you aren't "using" all your bit of road ... they WILL ... and are entitled to ... to make it easier for THEM.

[Toaster]

Yep, its a sad selfish world.

[p.dath]

Check where she is riding in the lane. Sounds like she needs to ride a little more in the centre to "own" the lane this will prevent cars trying to pass on either side. I normally ride a little to the right of centre in traffic (RH wheeltrack) but there is no hard and fast rule and you should be prepared to adapt to the conditions.
Also I tend to ride a little quicker than the surrounding cars to prevent them riding up my ass.If somebody is up my tail I let them pass when possible/safe. I ride my bike a little more "aggresively/decisively" than I would my car.

+1. I bet she isn't owning her lane.

[allycatz]

Pathetic dick I mite look, but when I use the horn people turn their heads, so at least in the case of an accident there should be plenty of witnesses..

Hmmm!!! Was sure that is what a horn was for to attract attention....

Well its bad enough having to ride a scooter AND a honda one but if I use the horn its sounds like a salutation from a 'Road Runner' cartoon.....cars take it seriously? Yeah Rite!

[breakaway]

Thanks for the help guys; will have a talk with her about this later. Also considering having dual air horns and a 12v compressor fitted to her bike. I had this setup on my 99 SV650S and it sounded like a road train was coming for you!

[Swoop]

Also considering having dual air horns and a 12v compressor fitted to her bike. I had this setup on my 99 SV650S and it sounded like a road train was coming for you!
Have you done a search for "Stebel" on here?
Quite a few bikes are fitted with them and the resulting comments are quite entertaining!

[sondela]

I'm just guessing but ... I bet you are way more aggressive on the road than the Mrs.

It's a bit like dog psychology .. act afraid on the road, and people will show aggression; act aggressive, and people with stay out of your way.

(maybe aggressive is the wrong word .. determined, confident, assertive )

No, I believe agressive is the right word..

I'm inclined to "prowl" in my lane a bit, move a bit (not all over the place) just enough to change the view in my mirrors so I can keep an eye on them behind, it makes me a bit unpredictable to car drivers too I think, and they stay away..

Moving in the lane a bit, (from middle to right mainly), means you're a bit more visible to the cars in front than if you sit static. This is in MHO of course...

[R6_kid]

"the best defense is a good offence" - I call it "active defensive riding". Basically riding in a way which keeps me away from other vehicles as much as possible while employing well known defensive driving techniques such as looking ahead, good scanning, full situational awareness etc.

Unfortunately some people actually aren't cut out to be safe motorcyclists - for some this means they are too reckless, but at the other end of the scale there are those who lack good situational awareness and "priority management" skills, this is a cognitive thing. These people are dodgy in cars, and worry for their personal safety if they are let out on a motorcycle. You have to be a little aggressive (for lack of a better word), what terminaladdict and piratejafa said is right on the money.

[sidecar bob]

I often have the luxury of following my partner part way to work on her GSX 250. Quite apart from checking her arse out while im driving, i notice nearly every morning, she gets bullied at the roundabouts by people that think they can get across in front of her before she gets through.
The first couple of mornings i freaked out a bit, but she slows a little & nobody collides.
Im sure nobody does this to me on my RSV, it may be that i have a different perspecive on it, but im sure they dont.

[avgas]

Thanks for the help guys; will have a talk with her about this later. Also considering having dual air horns and a 12v compressor fitted to her bike. I had this setup on my 99 SV650S and it sounded like a road train was coming for you!
I hear brakes and accelerator are better at getting out of situations.

[avgas]

Was sure that is what a horn was for to attract attention....
I thought that was what the M50 was for?
The horn just vents your anger. In a very silly form.

[Fatjim]

Does she have this problem when she's on the back of your bike?

She doesn't need telling, get her to work it out herself. Believe it or not, women have brains too.

[yachtie10]

She doesn't need telling, get her to work it out herself. Believe it or not, women have brains too.

Jeez mate dont tell woman this
next thing they will be wanting an orgasm too

[IdunBrokdItAgin]

No, I believe agressive is the right word..

I'm inclined to "prowl" in my lane a bit, move a bit (not all over the place) just enough to change the view in my mirrors so I can keep an eye on them behind, it makes me a bit unpredictable to car drivers too I think, and they stay away..

Moving in the lane a bit, (from middle to right mainly), means you're a bit more visible to the cars in front than if you sit static. This is in MHO of course...

+1.

I have also read that moving around in your lane stops the likelihood of "motion camoflage" and "looming" (more commonly known as "Sorry Mate I Didn't See You") occuring.

[SMOKEU]

I get the odd bit of abuse from jealous cagers because when there is a line of cages stopped at a red light or a roundabout I usually ride past and go in front of the cage who in front of the queue. I don't understand why people occasionally get fucked off for that. It's their own stupid fault for being in a cage in rush hour traffic.

[Mikkel]

Owning your lane is all good. Just never ever try to defend your lane!


Most of all NEVER use the horn - it just makes you look like a pathetic dick.

With a stebel you'll come across like an angry cock... Personally I use mine to wake people up when they seem to have fallen asleep for one reason or the other - left-turns into multiple carriageways seems to have that effect on many. Unlike the pathetic tweeter that comes with most vehicles this horn will be heard no matter how quiet your car is.


I got abused by a woman (a regular occurance .... :innocent: ) trying to find a car park for her SUV, I had parked my bike dead center of a car park. She wanted ME to find another "space" to park because I was "wasteing" the car park space because I was not using the ENTIRE parking space ... and HER SUV would ...

Says it all doesn't it?


Have you done a search for "Stebel" on here?
Quite a few bikes are fitted with them and the resulting comments are quite entertaining!

They are a right hoot. Remember not to use it without earplugs.


I often have the luxury of following my partner part way to work on her GSX 250. Quite apart from checking her arse out while im driving, i notice nearly every morning, she gets bullied at the roundabouts by people that think they can get across in front of her before she gets through.
The first couple of mornings i freaked out a bit, but she slows a little & nobody collides.
Im sure nobody does this to me on my RSV, it may be that i have a different perspecive on it, but im sure they dont.

I have people starting to pull out in front of me in roundabouts and then thinking better of it. But I think it's more to do with them misjudging my speed rather than trying to bully themselves through.


The horn just vents your anger. In a very silly form.

No, a horn is a way of saying wake-the-fuck-up and pay attention. I never use mine in anger - mostly because I don't get angry.

[IdunBrokdItAgin]

I get the odd bit of abuse from jealous cagers because when there is a line of cages stopped at a red light or a roundabout I usually ride past and go in front of the cage who in front of the queue. I don't understand why people occasionally get fucked off for that. It's their own stupid fault for being in a cage in rush hour traffic.

That's because, by pulling in front of the lead car, you are cutting in the queue.

Far more polite to filter to the front and sit in between the cars, then out accelerate the car from the off, then pull in front. That way you earned your right to get to the front. ;-)

I would never filter up to a roundabout though - only lights.

[avgas]

No, a horn is a way of saying wake-the-fuck-up and pay attention. I never use mine in anger - mostly because I don't get angry.
Hehe you think your educating them. How quaint.
I came to the realisation I am only in control of myself a very long time ago.

[davebullet]

If she has long hair, see if she can tie it up. Hiding her identity as a woman on a motorcycle might make those fucktards think twice.

Just suggesting the above to see if she notices a difference. Mrs B. often tells me stories of dickheads doing shit, and I wonder in small part whether they think they can walk over a woman rider / driver but might get aggro from a man (so they think twice).

[breakaway]

Yeah... I also think that when they realise its a girl on a bike, they get small penis syndrome and have to show off and pass her on the left. Plonkers.

[-df-]

I get the odd bit of abuse from jealous cagers because when there is a line of cages stopped at a red light or a roundabout I usually ride past and go in front of the cage who in front of the queue. I don't understand why people occasionally get fucked off for that. It's their own stupid fault for being in a cage in rush hour traffic.

Not always jealous...I know I sometimes get annoyed when I'm in my car at the lights, and some scooter or 250 skips the queue and goes in front of my car...now that doesn't have anything to do with jealousy...it just comes down to a fact that I'm in a hurry and your bike can't accelerate quick enough to get out of my way.

I never have a problem with a bike doing that as long as they are willing (and their bike is capable) to accelerate quickly from the lights (and are actually looking at the lights and not day dreaming like most people seem to do)

[R-Soul]

Thanks for the help guys; will have a talk with her about this later. Also considering having dual air horns and a 12v compressor fitted to her bike. I had this setup on my 99 SV650S and it sounded like a road train was coming for you!

Just get her some really aggro aftermarket pipes... and rev it often.

[R-Soul]

Not always jealous...I know I sometimes get annoyed when I'm in my car at the lights, and some scooter or 250 skips the queue and goes in front of my car...now that doesn't have anything to do with jealousy...it just comes down to a fact that I'm in a hurry and your bike can't accelerate quick enough to get out of my way.

I never have a problem with a bike doing that as long as they are willing (and their bike is capable) to accelerate quickly from the lights (and are actually looking at the lights and not day dreaming like most people seem to do)

I can agree with that - if you are not capable of or willing to out-accelerate a car, then you have no business pushing in in front of them. You are becoming the bottleneck. And the entire positive public policy idea of having more bikes on public roads is to ease congestion, not increase it. the thing is that even 50cc scooters can givea decent amount of acceleration by car standards - but the rider must WANT to use it.

I always ride so as to leave little to no "traffic footprint" - when I enter a lane properly in front of a car, I make sure to leave it soon, and ease ahead. and when I filter to the front of a queue, I am gone before the cars even start thinking of pulling off. I also think that a lot of car drivers can appreciate a decent bit of accelleration - it livens up their dull morning!

[-df-]

I can agree with that - if you are not capable of or willing to out-accelerate a car, then you have no business pushing in in front of them. You are becoming the bottleneck. And the entire positive public policy idea of having more bikes on public roads is to ease congestion, not increase it. the thing is that even 50cc scooters can givea decent amount of acceleration by car standards - but the rider must WANT to use it.

I always ride so as to leave little to no "traffic footprint" - when I enter a lane properly in front of a car, I make sure to leave it soon, and ease ahead. and when I filter to the front of a queue, I am gone before the cars even start thinking of pulling off. I also think that a lot of car drivers can appreciate a decent bit of accelleration - it livens up their dull morning!

Exactly, when I skip to the front of the queue I'm sitting there ready to hit the gas.

Its probably the 1 thing that annoys me about bikes when I'm in my car...people, if you see a decent performance car at the end of a queue...do not ride to the front of the queue...one day that car will go up the bikes arse...I know its even crossed my mind with a few scooter/250s...and I'm not someone that gets road rage.

[shellfish]

The Pommie bike schools call this 'assertiveness' on the road as the command position. Thats when your bike 'owns' the lane, basically in line withthe car drivers position. They use other positions for intersections the left and right turn positions - taking lane space to prevent the car 'sharing the lane with you' but less dominant than the command position.

[Mikkel]

Hehe you think your educating them. How quaint.
I came to the realisation I am only in control of myself a very long time ago.

Not at all. It's not my job to educate anyone - and until it is, I'm not going to waste my time.
However, if you fall asleep in traffic hopefully someone will wake you up.

And I came to the realisation that I am only partially in control of myself - and that the same is true for everyone else - a long time ago.

[Ronin]

Have you done a search for "Stebel" on here?
Quite a few bikes are fitted with them and the resulting comments are quite entertaining!

+1 for a stebel. 160 Decibels of fuck off goodness

[Big Dave]

The loud horn is OK for noobs on small bikes.

Better to exit the situation on a fast one - than worry about making a racket.

Most modern performance machines you can be 'out of there' quicker than it takes the other driver to react to the horn.

[CookMySock]

She'll come right in time, mate. She's just timid on it, and the world eats timid people because they are weak.

Once she has some experience on it, cunts will discover just who is, and is not, timid and weak. :niceone:

Steve

[Toaster]

The loud horn is OK for noobs on small bikes.

Better to exit the situation on a fast one - than worry about making a racket.

Most modern performance machines you can be 'out of there' quicker than it takes the other driver to react to the horn.

Agreed. It takes one reaction time to use the horn and another when they react to that..... if at all. Way too much time dicking around.

[BigOne]

Thanks for the help guys; will have a talk with her about this later. Also considering having dual air horns and a 12v compressor fitted to her bike. I had this setup on my 99 SV650S and it sounded like a road train was coming for you!

yeah, about the horn- Peep Peep does not do it. I fitted dual air horns to my bike, and when I hit the button, most driver's reaction is immediate and urgent- Like where the fu#k is the TRAIN coming from??? Get a set from Super Cheap for as little as $45. Or Stebels, but you will have trouble finding room for them on the SV.

[mattian]

if you see a decent performance car at the end of a queue...do not ride to the front of the queue.

You've just described EXACTLY what I love to do. Nothing like a decent drag off at the lights.......... up to the speed limit of course :innocent:

[Mikkel]

if you see a decent performance car at the end of a queue...do not ride to the front of the queue.

The trick is not to block off the car. When the light goes green, wait for a blink of an eye and it'll be very easy to see which way the fella goes - either he'll nail it 100% to make sure he doesn't look like a complete loser (except he will, whether he wins his little drag race or not) or he'll be cool and you'll just do a normal swift acceleration to just above the speed limit. There's shitloads of high-performance vehicles driving around out there, driven by people who drive with no enthusiasm at all - I always get a bit sad when being held up by something like an RS4 or a 911. If you are going to drive like that, just get a bloody prius or something equally uninspiring.

If you are riding in a way so that you might end up holding up other motorists (i.e. slow acceleration, not exceeding the speed limit at all) - do not filter to the front.

[Skyryder]

Not too sure on this but it sounds like she may be too cautious resulting in cage drivers becoming frustrated due to her lack of confidence. The only thing I can suggest is to take her somewhere where she can get to know the bikes capabiles i.e. Practice some hard braking, some short hard acelerating, etc. She needs to get confident out of traffic tghen once she knows her resp[onses and the bikes responses she will have more confidence in traffic.


Skyryder

[Skyryder]

The loud horn is OK for noobs on small bikes.

Better to exit the situation on a fast one - than worry about making a racket.

Most modern performance machines you can be 'out of there' quicker than it takes the other driver to react to the horn.


Loud horn is OK for all bikers not just noobs. While the throttle is a life saver the horn can be too. Not many riders can use the horn throttle or brake out of trouble if need be, all at the same time. In short you shouldn't even have to think where the horn button is and the best peice of advice I can give a noob is to know where the button is with out having to think about it.

Skyryder

[Big Dave]

Loud horn is OK for all bikers not just noobs. While the throttle is a life saver the horn can be too. Not many riders can use the horn throttle or brake out of trouble if need be, all at the same time. In short you shouldn't even have to think where the horn button is and the best peice of advice I can give a noob is to know where the button is with out having to think about it.

Skyryder

Good to know where it is true - I think it's pretty much a waste of time unless incorporated into an evasive maneuver.

[caseye]

My wife rides a little old lifan cruiser 250cc Well she did until recently.
Her only problem was allowing those behind her to intimidate her.I put her to the right of centre and told her to move directly in front of anyone who even looked like attempting to pass her on the left.Naturally, I also told her to make sure she had a good handful of throttle ready, just in case they were not convinced that , that bit of road was already hers.
I have followed a bit back from her on occassions.Once I overtook three cars and another bike to catch up to, pass and quite aggressively cut off the Barstard who was less than 6 FEET behind her on an open road, cager was in a Sub aroo with his wife and three kids in the car. Him and his kids thought it was a great joke that close behind an L plate , his wife didn't, specially after I appeared right there in front of them with the Big Old rear Light lit Bright Red right in his bloody face.
Pity was he pulled back plenty but would not be persuaded that I'd like him to stop somewhere convenient so we could have a little chat.Last seen him fending off blows from his missus, one for us I reckon.

[BMWST?]

Good to know where it is true - I think it's pretty much a waste of time unless incorporated into an evasive maneuver.

its amazing what a LOUD horn will do....people who lazily change lanes go stra1ght back where they have come from and THEN look what blasted them

[McJim]

I've taken to cycling now that I've sold the Ducati. I still own my lane but the cars still come too close. I don't know what's up with the idiots - they want me to obey the traffic lights so they must accept that I'm a vehicle...then they get all ghey about me using a whole vehicle space on the road. They need to get real - I'm not even riding 2 abreast - just using the 2 metres of road width I'm entitled to. Bunch o' fannies that they are. :Pokey: :rofl:

Seriously. Riding assertively will save your life. I used to ride round Glasgow on a bicycle and a positive mental approach made people notice me and stay out of my way.

[McJim]

Do you ever say anything that doesn't make you sound like a cock?


It is you cornering and abusing members that makes you look like a cock. Looking back, you have quite the history of it don't you? If you don't like a comment, then go read something you do like, but not you - corner, harass, abuse - all standard fare for yourself. It's pretty clear it affects you much more greatly it does me, LOL. :sunny:

Steve

I think you got the answer to your question Jim :rofl:

[Big Dave]

It's all about respect.
Speaking of which, does anyone remember McJim?

[Ixion]

Mc Who ? You mean the guy who went cyclotic ? Who cares.

[Spearfish]

Filtering to the front of a Q to find a Hick in an old HSV and probably his son in a Silvia in the lane beside can usually be followed by the words "ahh fark here we go".

[meowmix]

+1 for virtually everything said above. I like moving about in my own lane slightly, and twitching a bit. I've noticed that drivers stay away if they think you're just a little crazy.
As for bicycles, jebuz. The most annoying thing on the road isn't the tool in his loud little car, its cyclists filtering to the front of a long queue. Then the rest of the queue has to painstakingly repass the same cyclist. That IMO is the reason cyclists get no respect on the road. [/hijack]

[SMOKEU]

just comes down to a fact that I'm in a hurry and your bike can't accelerate quick enough to get out of my way.



My bike is still quick enough to out accelerate most cars. It's quicker than turbo Legacys and it's not far off from my worked GTIR.

[-df-]

My bike is still quick enough to out accelerate most cars. It's quicker than turbo Legacys and it's not far off from my worked GTIR.

Sorry, performance cars...not family cars.

A 0-100 time of around 6 seconds is not very quick, has to be at least under 5 sec before its worth talking about.

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As for people intimidating others on the bike, when I was riding with my wife, there were idiots that tried stuff (yes she had her L plate on)...I just always rode behind her and made sure if something was going to happen...it would happen with me. For some reason its always from behind that people are dicks on the road.

[-df-]

My bike is still quick enough to out accelerate most cars. It's quicker than turbo Legacys and it's not far off from my worked GTIR.

Sorry, performance cars...not family cars.

A 0-100 time of around 6 seconds is not very quick, has to be at least under 5 sec before its worth talking about.

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As for people intimidating others on the bike, when I was riding with my wife, there were idiots that tried stuff (yes she had her L plate on)...I just always rode behind her and made sure if something was going to happen...it would happen with me. For some reason its always from behind that people are dicks on the road.

[Mudfart]

yesterday I rode to hamiltron. Firstly I am forced to ride pretty much centre track in any lane because of so much tar bleed on right and left wheel tracks from the heavy trucks. Also I have a theory that because I'm only on a 250, and my revs are really high (between 8-10 000), I'm prone to rear wheel spin on slippery tar?.
Well, coming into ngaruwhahia I got tailgated by sum dik in a granny car, maybe a 1 ltr charade or something? It was pink and driven by a wank. The dumb thing is she would drop back to being 1-200 mtrs behind, then when I'd look again she would be inches from my rear.
Helmets are great for protecting your head from punches, and the gloves are armoured for smashing! Im already kitted up to kick ass.

[pritch]

.Most of all NEVER use the horn - it just makes you look like a pathetic dick.

The jury's out on that. I guess it depends on your horn. Most OE horns are pathetic it's true, but you can do something about that :devil2:

[avgas]

The jury's out on that. I guess it depends on your horn. Most OE horns are pathetic it's true, but you can do something about that :devil2:
You mean like how the boy racers fix their OEM exhausts and OEM stereos?

[SMOKEU]

Sorry, performance cars...not family cars.

A 0-100 time of around 6 seconds is not very quick, has to be at least under 5 sec before its worth talking about.



Most people don't do hard launches from every set of lights, do they?

[-df-]

Most people don't do hard launches from every set of lights, do they?

Generally not...I don't do that anymore...the Evo's clutch is a little spungy now :(

I was talking about the car/bikes general ability to get to a certain speed from stopped...a 0-100 is a good indication of this.

[avgas]

Generally not...I don't do that anymore...the Evo's clutch is a little spungy now :(
I was talking about the car/bikes general ability to get to a certain speed from stopped...a 0-100 is a good indication of this.
Actually its majorly dependant on the substance between the drivers ears.

[SMOKEU]

Generally not...I don't do that anymore...the Evo's clutch is a little spungy now :(



Don't worry too much about the clutch, it's the gearbox you've got to think of the most. Try finding a cheap one that's not fucked.

[mazz1972]

Wankers are everywhere. They are in SUV's, trucks, granny cars, on motorcycles, pushbikes, on foot.

I'm the first to admit I'm a nana rider. I don't tailgate, which seems to occasionally give drivers of other vehicles on the highway the idea that I am inviting them to squeeze in front of me. I usually just let it go as they have already demonstrated a lack of consideration, so I'm not about to test the lengths of their stupidity by getting aggressive. Having said that, when it's been done in an dangerous place, I may have been known to hold my finger on the horn for quite some time.

Getting back to the original post, I read with interest the suggestions for horn honking, weaving around, reving a noisy exhaust, etc. I'd feel like a complete wanker myself doing that, and wouldn't want to risk aggravating the situation, just to be staunch.

Nana out.

[carver]

cause women should not be riding

[Big Dave]

cause women should not be riding


How will you do the shopping?

[carver]

How will you do the shopping?

Il put her in a big 4wd

[Mudfart]

Il put her in a big 4wd

that makes the road dangerous for the rest of us!

[carver]

that makes the road dangerous for the rest of us!

great, she'll be a 5'4 asain slapper too

[caseye]

cause women should not be riding

Mr Carver, and if you don't know, when someone you don't know calls you MISTER it's usually because they've taken a sudden and detrimental dislike to you.
i knowa number of very good riders who also happen to be women.You've pulled a long bow string here mate, explain yourself, lol.

[modboy]

Well its bad enough having to ride a scooter AND a honda one but if I use the horn its sounds like a salutation from a 'Road Runner' cartoon.....cars take it seriously? Yeah Rite!

Yea I found when I was on my scooter (Vespa PX200) I used to attract a bit of unwarrented aggression by idiotic selfish drivers - on the loud debaffled thruxton it has diminished significantly - probably cos I look a bit more like a badass hells angel on the Triumph. I actually occassionally get drivers moving over so I can split more effectively.

I think confidence and decisiveness (as has already been mentioned) are the key.

[modboy]

cause women should not be riding

Nothing gets me more worked up than a cute leather clad butt on a streetfighter in front of me... world would be a sad depressing place without biker chicks

[carver]

Nothing gets me more worked up than a cute leather clad butt on a streetfighter in front of me... world would be a sad depressing place without biker chicks

follow me some time

[R-Soul]

Most people don't do hard launches from every set of lights, do they?

Are youi talking about riders or cagers? Cagers don't.
BUT I DO!!
Impossible to resist! :eek::2thumbsup

[Swoop]

I'm not even riding 2 abreast - just using the 2 metres of road width I'm entitled to.
You'll end up as a hood ornament, then a windscreen ornament, then a roof ornament...

[R-Soul]

I've taken to cycling now that I've sold the Ducati. I still own my lane but the cars still come too close. I don't know what's up with the idiots - they want me to obey the traffic lights so they must accept that I'm a vehicle...then they get all ghey about me using a whole vehicle space on the road. They need to get real - I'm not even riding 2 abreast - just using the 2 metres of road width I'm entitled to. Bunch o' fannies that they are. :Pokey: :rofl:

Seriously. Riding assertively will save your life. I used to ride round Glasgow on a bicycle and a positive mental approach made people notice me and stay out of my way.


2 freaking meters? What are you, balance disdvantaged?
A bicycle is only 30 cm wide...